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[Q] Incredible 2.3.4 cannot get S-off/root/temp root/anything

I have an Incredible 2.3.4 with this taken from HBOOT
Incrediblec XC Ship S-On
HBOOT-0.92.0000
Microp-0417
Touch Panel-ATMEL224_16ab
Radio-2.15.10.07.07
Ok, so here is my problem, I want to be rooted and I want S-off, but I cannot get anything done. The phone wouldn't recognize the SD Card, I got that taken care of. The phone does the 5 Vibrates when turning it on unless I have the USB plugged in and I do a battery pull. (This really screws up updates/RUU fixes where updates are necessary). And along those lines I tried an RUU back to 2.1 which didn't work because of the restart issue, but then I was able to run the update after booting into HBOOT USB but the RUU failed ultimately.
I've tried to gain root access through unrevoked 3.22, it simply says failed to push recovery, terminated. I've tried rooting using zergRush, it tells me that it has found a path and that its sending zergs, then it just stops without telling me what happened and kicks me back out of adb shell. This is a recurring problem, I will be in adb shell and then randomly and for no reason it was kick me out to the root of my computer.
I'm working on a Windows 7 64 bit machine, I have been using an ADB mini download, but have also tried working through the installed ADB with equal results.
If anyone has any idea of what I could be doing wrong or different please let me know. I really need some kind of help because I am at a major loss.

2.3.4 on the Incredible has not yet been rooted, therefore the rooting software (Unrevoked) has not been updated with a root method. That would be why it's not working for you. I've never tried to downgrade to an old version using an RUU, so I can't really speak to that.
Also, this was posted in the incorrect forum. You should have posted in the Q&A section, as this has nothing to do with development.

What about the radio?
I was wondering this same thing because my wife's Incredible isn't rooted, but she's on 2.3.4. If she ever asks me to root her phone to put something on it or give her some feature not otherwise available, I'd rather be prepared if possible.
While looking over the UnRevoked site, I noticed it didn't really mention the Android versions it worked with, just the radios. I wonder if it's possible to just flash the radio to 2.15.00.07.28, which is rootable, according to the UnRevoked site, and try the UnRevoked Forever tool?
The radios are pretty easy to get here after all.
I'm not recommending this without some confirmation from someone with a lot more experience rooting than I have though, so Caveat Emptor!
Just a thought.
Cheers!

keyslapper said:
I was wondering this same thing because my wife's Incredible isn't rooted, but she's on 2.3.4. If she ever asks me to root her phone to put something on it or give her some feature not otherwise available, I'd rather be prepared if possible.
While looking over the UnRevoked site, I noticed it didn't really mention the Android versions it worked with, just the radios. I wonder if it's possible to just flash the radio to 2.15.00.07.28, which is rootable, according to the UnRevoked site, and try the UnRevoked Forever tool?
The radios are pretty easy to get here after all.
I'm not recommending this without some confirmation from someone with a lot more experience rooting than I have though, so Caveat Emptor!
Just a thought.
Cheers!
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You can flash radios in the bootloader, but, having S-ON, the zip file may need to be signed, so i'd say NO it's not possible to flash a radio w/o root.

Yeah, flashing radios with s-on is a brick magnet.

There is thread on downgrading to 2.2 and rooting in dev. It works.
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Sorry not dev but Q & A. Also it is on android forums.
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Long night....its in general search for root 2.3.4, downgrade, and s off.
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jpjj225 said:
Yeah, flashing radios with s-on is a brick magnet.
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Actually it just wouldn't flash, because the file wouldn't be signed by HTC, so it wouldn't (shouldn't) brick the phone.

http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-2-3-4-root-downgrade-s-off.html
There is the guide my friend used to do his recently acquired inc
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jpjj225 said:
Yeah, flashing radios with s-on is a brick magnet.
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The phone won't brick. It just won't flash.

Oh sorry, thought I read that somewhere a long time ago. Something about flashing new radios is dangerous if you do it wrong. MY BAD!!!

[Rum Float] First flash ever, a bit nervous

I'd like to flash my Vivid with the new Rum Float ROM and from what I gather; now that a RUU is available it should be fairly easy. I.bought the phone last Thursday and haven't had a chance to grab a SD card. I just want to make sure that I fully understand the process involved. I've read a number of posts here at XDA and elsewhere but I still have a few questions to make sure my knowledge is solid and I don't end up with an HTC paperweight! A) Will the Android market will have a record of what I have already dl'd so I can dl it again? B) Is using the RUU executable fairly simple? Should I do the BL UL before I restore?(I would like root, so I'm assuming that this is one of the first steps!) C) Is it a simple follow the instructions sort of thing with the RUU? D) Will "frigid's" "supertool" method to get root work in this instance or do I need to use CWM? E) I'm using an AT&T Vivid could somebody give me a simple step by step(not in detail, but if you could that would be great!) Such as "1- Do BL UL, 2- Run supertool for root, 3 - Run RUU, etc, etc, etc
Also there appears to be a sense and a NONSense version of the ROM, are they both included in the RUU exe file? And for the NONSense version will there be any difference in stability, performance, you acceleration, etc?
Thanks for any info in advanced!
-MeeGz-

MeeGz said:
I'd like to flash my Vivid with the new Rum Float ROM and from what I gather; now that a RUU is available it should be fairly easy. I.bought the phone last Thursday and haven't had a chance to grab a SD card. I just want to make sure that I fully understand the process involved. I've read a number of posts here at XDA and elsewhere but I still have a few questions to make sure my knowledge is solid and I don't end up with an HTC paperweight! A) Will the Android market will have a record of what I have already dl'd so I can dl it again? B) Is using the RUU executable fairly simple? Should I do the BL UL before I restore?(I would like root, so I'm assuming that this is one of the first steps!) C) Is it a simple follow the instructions sort of thing with the RUU? D) Will "frigid's" "supertool" method to get root work in this instance or do I need to use CWM? E) I'm using an AT&T Vivid could somebody give me a simple step by step(not in detail, but if you could that would be great!) Such as "1- Do BL UL, 2- Run supertool for root, 3 - Run RUU, etc, etc, etc
Also there appears to be a sense and a NONSense version of the ROM, are they both included in the RUU exe file? And for the NONSense version will there be any difference in stability, performance, you acceleration, etc?
Thanks for any info in advanced!
-MeeGz-
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The RUU DOES NOT CONTAIN MY ROM. It is an official tool used by HTC for upgrading and returning to stock.
Android market will keep tabs on purchased apps. It will not keep track of free apps.
You need an sdcard to keep safe.
The RUU is easy to run. Its just an exe. Follow the on-screen prompts.
I don't know what you are trying to restore but it would appear you have your terminology and methods all mixed up.
RUU will get you a stock ics. And it will wipe your apps and settings. It will act like a phone you just pulled out of the box with ics.
In order to run rum float (or any aftermarket rom) you need to unlock your bootloader. Rooting has nothing to do with it. Unlock bl then flash recovery on then flash rom and kernel.
Your steps as you perceive them are slightly off. I don't recommend you do anything to your phone right now.

After you complete the RUU you'd have to go to htc.dev and unlock your bootloader. After you can fastboot flash a recovery and CWM with root. After that's complete you can flash a rom of your choice. I'd get familiar with using fastboot commands in ADB (command prompt). I guess you can use the supertool to root but it isn't necessary really a matter of preference. Check out the superguide. Maybe PG or someone can update it with specific steps if you are using the RUU but the process is the same. It starts with the unlocking the bootloader. Definitely pick up an SD card!

Thanks for the quick replies and the clarification. I think I get it now, I would do the following to get to a rooted custom ICS Rom: Unlock the boot loader, root and run titanium backup to save my apps(using an ad card), run the RUU and get to stock HTC ics, copy ROM to sd card, re-root, download and run CWM, root again and restore apps with titanium backup, enjoy!
The only things that may be a bit off in that process is running the RUU as I don't need that to just flash a custom ROM, assuming said ROM includes the ICS kernel. If did have to use the RUU would I have to re-root to run cwm? Also the actual ROM itself is installed from HBoot, correct?
Sorry if these sound like dumb questions, I'm just new at this. I really appreciate the replies. I'm sure I will pick this up fairly quickly as I have years of linux & OS X command line experience and am well versed with c. It's just kind of information overload on this board as there is such a wealth and variety of info here!
Thanks again,
-MeeGz-

So you can run the ruu.exe even if you are rooted, unlocked bootloader, on att stock? Or do you have have to relock bootloader to proceed with the ruu?
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RUU is for stock roms IIRC. If you are rooted and already unlocked I'd use the original method PG and Thecubed created.

back on my computer for a little better explanation.
the RUU or the methods that thecubed and i have laid out will get you the necessary HBOOT/RADIO/etc that you will need to flash a custom ICS rom
either method will get you the same thing....an updated HBOOT and ICS
if you run the bootloader unlock tool from htcdev, YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS! it will wipe the device like its brand new......do NOT include this in your dreams of getting backups prior to flashing a custom rom....
please just read through the posts and understand what is going on.
in order for ICS to happen on your vivid you need the new HBOOT, Radio, and various other components that the RUU/PH39IMG contain
there are 3 different roads you can follow to get there, the EASIEST being just run the RUU (WHICH WILL ALSO WIPE SETTINGS!), afterwards, reboot to bootloader, unlock bootloader, reboot to fastboot, fastboot flash the boot.img and the recovery.img of your choice on (limited on boot.img's at the moment, better use the one from the rom), reboot to recovery and flash the rom
the other methods imply you understand somewhat how the process works.
relock bootloader (if unlocked), run PH39IMG install, unlock bootloader, fastboot flash recovery and boot.img, reboot to recovery and flash rom.....
if you wrap your head around HOW it works, its all really simple....so the first step is understanding HOW it works, not blindly following some tutorial or walkthrough.
please try to LEARN and UNDERSTAND what it is you are doing....
PS. you have involved ROOTING too many times in your post...... the rom is already ROOTED, you dont have to ROOT to unlock, flash rom or anything....ROOTING is only applicable INSIDE the booted OPERATING SYSTEM, and has nothing to do with recovery/bootloader

i feel i need to apologize to the board here.
frustrations were not directed at the OP of this thread, just in general....
i have been inundated with PM's and seeing the same barrage of questions for the last few days on the forum....
i can understand everyone's excitement...hell i was excited to get this too.
but you all need to read, and try to take it all in before attempting anything. sometimes those of us that understand whats going on, dont explain in a whole lot of detail, because we take the knowledge for granted, and assume if you are on this site, you are here to learn. it is frustrating to see the same questions pop up on nearly an hourly basis...
all i ask is that you take forth the effort to learn how these tools of ours work and understand that a lot of us working on things like this rely on you guys to assist each other in the process. that leaves us more time to deal with what we need to deal with and try and fix and squash bugs/processes/etc.
in return i apologize if i seem on edge the last couple of days...its because i am. if you can imagine one question multiplied by a hundred.....and having people freaking out about them 'bricking'.....after being warned its possible, but unlikely. i think most of these 'bricks' are salvageable and just require someone that understands how they work.
sorry to seem like an ass, but mainly its because i am an ass, and i have a hard time being nice most of the time.

Thanks pirateghost. I understand how to do the other methods but wanted to use something less complicated with less risk for user error. I read and read everything that is posted on the forums. I try not to ask a question unless I am not understanding what has been posted. Thanks for your patience and understanding.
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PG, so im pretty sure i "bricked" it lol. im not upset as it was entirely my fault, just wondering if there is any way to get this mother to turn on? i know that when i plug it into the computer it recognizes it but not as anything i have seen lol..if i can find the correct drivers can this be reversed?

Thanks
Thanks to PG for everything and the instructions. I thought I had bricked my phone, but theCube was able to help me on IRC, which is where I suggest anybody go for real-time assistance.

This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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Dxtra said:
As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares
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As a user, you should understand the risks/benefits of the things you download. The devs are under no obligation to keep you from bricking your phone, and to be fair, most everything is covered in the Superguide and the various ROM threads. Even if someone were to post a file called NOT_A_VIRUS.EXE and you downloaded it and it wiped your computer when you ran it, the responsibility is squarely on your shoulders.
As far as I remember, there is no dev/user contract and they're not getting paid for any of this.

Dxtra said:
As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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oh?
am i being paid to do a job here?
i gave instructions based on how *I* got it to work and duplicated the procedure several times. so its MY responsibility to try and find a way to brick my phone for you?
an RUU cant brick your phone.....however, being a retard can.
this is the type of attitude i would expect my boss to have, if i screwed up a project....but alas, i am here out of my own free will.....
if this is how you feel, then you should get the F off this site.

formicae said:
As a user, you should understand the risks/benefits of the things you download. The devs are under no obligation to keep you from bricking your phone, and to be fair, most everything is covered in the Superguide and the various ROM threads. Even if someone were to post a file called NOT_A_VIRUS.EXE and you downloaded it and it wiped your computer when you ran it, the responsibility is squarely on your shoulders.
As far as I remember, there is no dev/user contract and they're not getting paid for any of this.
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I totally 100% agree with you. If you HAVE taken the time to read and are still a bit confused, ask! For me I'm not even a week into this platform and I WILL NOT do anything that I don't entirely understand. The problem with android, if you could even call it a problem, is that there is such a huge variety of handsets and a big variety methods for doing this, that, and the other thing. It basically results in a non-linear process to get from point A to point B. It's imperative to understand the basic proceedures. If you were here since the G1, great, you've been able to.follow things from the start. I've used iOS for years, and I still love it btw.(only jailbroken of course!) I'll probably buy an iPad 3! The software is integrated with the hardware amazingly well, battery life is phenomenal, and ONCE JAILBROKEN, iOS is an excellent platform. Sure the "spec numbers" may not be as high but it boils down to.performance. That has always been great for me, obviously battery life is exceptional on apple devices as well. I'm hoping with a rooted ICS Rom there won't be cpu-time hogging processes and ill be able to adjust other things accordingly to get somewhat better battery life. I really wish each OEM would take the time to optimize the SW that they're using to the HW that they're selling. B/C from what I've seen the "Nexus" devices generally perform extremely well, even.against higher spec'd devices. So far I'm loving Android and my Vivid. I love the freedom that I get even on a non-rooted device! It's an excellent platform. Flexible, dynamic, and personal. Customization is there from the get-go. There are a million different things that one could do, even while staying un-rooted. The only reason that I've waited so long to get on board with android is ibwas waiting for it to grow and mature, if I could have a device that tri-booted Android, iOS, and WebOS I'd be a very happy person. I love using multiple platforms.
PG - I'm sorry if I bothered you, thanks for the great info though!
I think knowledge-wise I'm at a point where I'm not going to brick my phone. Wish me luck!

Pirateghost said:
oh?
am i being paid to do a job here?
i gave instructions based on how *I* got it to work and duplicated the procedure several times. so its MY responsibility to try and find a way to brick my phone for you?
an RUU cant brick your phone.....however, being a retard can.
this is the type of attitude i would expect my boss to have, if i screwed up a project....but alas, i am here out of my own free will.....
if this is how you feel, then you should get the F off this site.
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Seriously if that is how you feel do get the f*ck off this site please. The devs in all mobile hacking communities are unpaid and do it for fun. You sir are a prime example of WHY THEY LEAVE!!! IF YOU DON'T KNOW AND HAVE READ, ASK, DON'T BE A ****!!!

Dxtra said:
This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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REALLY? You want the UNNPAID DEV'S TO REMOVE ALL THREATS?!?!?! FROM WHAT IS BASICALLY OSS AND A FIRMWARE THAT SOMEBODY DL'D? REALLY? These guys take a FW and cook it into a ROM for FREE and just b/c you didn't take the time to understand it you're gonna put it on them? WTF?!?!?!?

i'll make him a deal. next time we get a hold of something like this, i will let him figure out how to get it on his phone....i don't have to share how...

Dxtra said:
This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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You know, its users like you that get Devs frustrated and not want to share the work that they have accomplished. XDA is a site for Devs, its not a WalMart that people can stop by and expect to be spoonfed and be on their merry way. Pirateghost is a very talented Dev who wanted to share something with this community, and instead of saying "thank you" you decide to look a the glass as half empty instead of half full and EXPECT MORE from him?
Reading your post, it tells me that you dont frequent the HTC forums at all, and instead of reading up, you just decided to flash. Just because it didnt go as smoothly as you thought it would is NO REASON to tell a Dev that they needed to do more. That part lays on you.
Next time you decide to tell a Dev that "they need to do more" I think you need to do more reading so it prevents you from having to buy a new phone. If it dosent make sense to you or you dont think theres enough documentation/step-by-step instructions YOU HAVE THE POWER TO SAY NO AND NOT FLASH IT.

Uh, there's a reason every single solitary dev puts a disclaimer on their ROM threads. Their work, if directions are not followed to the letter can turn your device into a +/- 200$ paperweight. I've been lurking around these forums for a hot minute, rarely post ( not an ounce of dev skill being the main reason), and really, when's the last time a dev didn't post at least semi detailed instructions to go along with his/her OP.
@pirateghost- bought a vivid literally 12 hours ago, got home, saw your thread, FOLLOWED THE DIRECTIONS CAREFULLY, and now have ICS on my device. Just wanted to say thanks.
And now for the most epic noob question of all time. Wth is RUU? I'm very familiar with flashing roms, cam, tibu, etc from my days on the sgsII SR forums. So most if not all HTC terminology is new to me.
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I've done something stupid

Hello people, I hope I'm not being a 'bloody annoying bastard '- I really have searched the internet forums thoroughly for a solution to my predicament.
I recently bought a Bell network branded HTC Raider with stock GB (2.3.4) rom. I have unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone. In my haste to get rid of the bloatware, I stupidly used Root Explorer to delete files instead using Titanium Backup - ergo, no chance to restore deleted stuff. Anyway, now when I press 'Personalize' on the launcher bar, and then try to choose any of the sound options,(ringtones, notifications or alarms), I get a message saying 'The linked program is no longer installed on your phone'. And if I try to change the notification sound from within, say, the messages app, the app 'has to close'. The only 'program' that I can think of that is even remotely connected with sound is Soundhound, which I deleted, but I don't believe that would be the cause. I can still set a ringtone using the ringtone widget, but I can't change the notification or alarm sounds, even though I can still see and play them in System/Media/Audio. Has anyone any idea what I have inadvertently deleted? Something from HTC Sense, I'm guessing. Is it possible to download the Sense 3.0 files and pick them apart to perhaps find what I'm missing?
Sorry if this is a dumb question - my first post and all. Cheers.

Why dont you flash the stock.rom?
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Why dont you flash the stock.rom?
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Do you have a link to download the stock rom please?

I'm sorry
Im no htc user
Ask the forum i suggest
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I was able to find a link to the stock ICS update RUU for Bell Raiders
(this will upgrade your phone to Ice Cream Sandwich and wipe everything)
If you want to stick with the BellMobility stock Gingerbread, I think I have it archived at home. I can upload it this evening if you want it.
Thanks to the ICS BellMobility RUU post by kennethpenn
http://briefmobile.com/download-htc-vivid-ice-cream-sandwich-update
(there are 2 mirror links available for this download)
and... here is the upload of the GB BellMobility RUU!
(filename: RUU_Holiday_BM_1.65.666.3_Radio_1.11.1020.03_30.77.551061.02L_release_222207_signed.exe)
http://depositfiles.com/files/ri3ygxwsi

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Thank you, I'll try for the Gingerbread first, just to try to find out what I deleted. Upgrade to ICS I believe I can get from HTC OTA if I return the phone to stock first. I'm still new at this flashing business, so I'm grateful for any help.

OK . . . downloaded file, but unfortunately it is an installer package, and it won't install on my rooted Raider. Does anyone out there have it in a zip package? I'd like to sort thru the apk files.

Or at the very least, a LIST of installed apk's for the Bell Raider.

linzoid said:
OK . . . downloaded file, but unfortunately it is an installer package, and it won't install on my rooted Raider. Does anyone out there have it in a zip package? I'd like to sort thru the apk files.
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You have to relock your bootloader before running the ruu...its easy just download the toolkit and use the relock bootloader option...then run the ruu
As far as it in a zip file...I don't honk there is one for the bell...there's a rooted deodexed art one you can flash in recovery...don't know how that will play with your bell version tho
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linzoid said:
OK . . . downloaded file, but unfortunately it is an installer package, and it won't install on my rooted Raider. Does anyone out there have it in a zip package? I'd like to sort thru the apk files.
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When you run an HTC RUU exe, it takes a little time to extract whatever files it needs. Once you get to the very first step of the RUU (where you get to click buttons), I believe you can go to C:\Users\whoever\AppData\Local\Temp (for Win7 users) and then sort by modified date. You should see a folder that was very recently created. If you poke around in there, you may find a file called "rom.zip". That should be the stock rom from the RUU. But what you do with it is at your own risk!
mg2 is right - just relock the bootloader and the RUU will bring your phone back to glorious stock. It's so much easier than messing around. Then you can decide what your next step is.

LaZiODROID said:
When you run an HTC RUU exe, it takes a little time to extract whatever files it needs. Once you get to the very first step of the RUU (where you get to click buttons), I believe you can go to C:\Users\whoever\AppData\Local\Temp (for Win7 users) and then sort by modified date. You should see a folder that was very recently created. If you poke around in there, you may find a file called "rom.zip". That should be the stock rom from the RUU. But what you do with it is at your own risk!
mg2 is right - just relock the bootloader and the RUU will bring your phone back to glorious stock. It's so much easier than messing around. Then you can decide what your next step is.
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Yes, I realise now that reflashing the stock rom was the easiest way. Now I have the OTA ICS and Sense 3.6 rom in place, have re unlocked, re rooted and this time I am being more careful with bloatware removal! Have also done a full nandroid backup. Thanks again for the advice, people. Looking forward to asking more noob questions in the future. :silly:

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Yes, I realise now that reflashing the stock rom was the easiest way. Now I have the OTA ICS and Sense 3.6 rom in place, have re unlocked, re rooted and this time I am being more careful with bloatware removal! Have also done a full nandroid backup. Thanks again for the advice, people. Looking forward to asking more noob questions in the future. :silly:
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We'll be waiting
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Sweet!
Sent from my S-OFF'd underclocked Bell Raider LTE

Just one more thing . . . I understand that I'll need to S-OFF if I want to install custom ROMs, is that right? Any other advantages of an S-OFF phone? The procedure looks a tad daunting - poking around in the back of the phone with a piece of wire! I did it to my old Desire . . . was quite straightforward using Revolutionary. Cheers, all.

linzoid said:
Just one more thing . . . I understand that I'll need to S-OFF if I want to install custom ROMs, is that right? Any other advantages of an S-OFF phone? The procedure looks a tad daunting - poking around in the back of the phone with a piece of wire! I did it to my old Desire . . . was quite straightforward using Revolutionary. Cheers, all.
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You do not need to be S-OFF to install custom roms: just need to flash boot.img using fastboot and flash rom thru recovery
With S_OFF you flash kernel (boot.img) thru recovery instead of using fastboot

ronnie498 said:
You do not need to be S-OFF to install custom roms: just need to flash boot.img using fastboot and flash rom thru recovery
With S_OFF you flash kernel (boot.img) thru recovery instead of using fastboot
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OK . . . got it. Thanks for that.

If you're a ROM-a-Holic like me (and maybe a few others around here) and want to try many different roms and kernels to find out what you like the most, you'll want to do the S-OFF procedure. It's not that bad, and it's definitely convenient to be able to download a stack of roms and kernels, put them on your SD card, and then sit out on the lawn enjoying some sun and flashing your phone silly directly from recovery without needing fastboot! I highly recommend it.

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If you're a ROM-a-Holic like me (and maybe a few others around here) and want to try many different roms and kernels to find out what you like the most, you'll want to do the S-OFF procedure. It's not that bad, and it's definitely convenient to be able to download a stack of roms and kernels, put them on your SD card, and then sit out on the lawn enjoying some sun and flashing your phone silly directly from recovery without needing fastboot! I highly recommend it.
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I agree! If you follow the instructions from the SuperGuide (stickied in the development forum I believe) exactly, you shouldn't have any problems with the S-OFF procedure.

What must one do to simply use greenify?

Hey everyone,
Im on a fully stock one, unrooted and everything, but I wish to use greenify. I've been looking around and there are many many tutorials on how to root. Each one us different, like revone, Im so confused! What do I have to do?
For now, planning on staying in a stock rom. As well, I wanna flash this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2102397
[APP/PORT] Xperia Honami i1 / Z Ultra Launcher [UPDATED-2013.07.13][v5.0][Multi Rez]
Can someone tell me what method to root with?
Please and thankyou!

Actually revone is a method to take security off your phone ..then you cam root...the simplest way is unlock bootloader(this will full wipe your phone back **** up!!!) Then flash a recovery then a rooted Rom or simply flash root

Revone will be easiest and best for s-off and then rooting is child's play. Head ove to Revone thread for instructions.
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a box of kittens said:
Actually revone is a method to take security off your phone ..then you cam root...the simplest way is unlock bootloader(this will full wipe your phone back **** up!!!) Then flash a recovery then a rooted Rom or simply flash root
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Thank you both! When you sat backup, it's just saving your files and maybe using go backup right? No nandroid possible until after unlocking bootloader correct?
And s-off unlocks the device for custom roms right?
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Youll have to unlock the phone via htc dev site if you are not on a developer variant of the device,flash a custom recovery, I know twrp can root the device for you,not sure about cwm...As far as wanting to flash that mod, Im 99.9% sure you will need to flash a custom rom as well,as the mod is most likely deodexed and will not work with an odexed rom which would be what your using.Greenify just requires root i believe. And revone is not the easiest way to unlock the device, can easily screw up the phone.IF unfamiliar with adb commands use the htcdev site to avoid issues until your more comfortable.
chc31 said:
Hey everyone,
Im on a fully stock one, unrooted and everything, but I wish to use greenify. I've been looking around and there are many many tutorials on how to root. Each one us different, like revone, Im so confused! What do I have to do?
For now, planning on staying in a stock rom. As well, I wanna flash this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2102397
[APP/PORT] Xperia Honami i1 / Z Ultra Launcher [UPDATED-2013.07.13][v5.0][Multi Rez]
Can someone tell me what method to root with?
Please and thankyou!
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S-Off is NOT needed for custom roms,kernels or recovery flashing, based on what your wanting to do and being new to adb commands etc, use the htc dev site. In the custom recoveries AFTER unlocking bootloader and flashing one of them, its pretty straight [email protected] backing up the current rom installed.
chc31 said:
Thank you both! When you sat backup, it's just saving your files and maybe using go backup right? No nandroid possible until after unlocking bootloader correct?
And s-off unlocks the device for custom roms right?
Sent from my HTC One
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Wonders_Never_Cease said:
Youll have to unlock the phone via htc dev site if you are not on a developer variant of the device,flash a custom recovery, I know twrp can root the device for you,not sure about cwm...As far as wanting to flash that mod, Im 99.9% sure you will need to flash a custom rom as well,as the mod is most likely deodexed and will not work with an odexed rom which would be what your using.Greenify just requires root i believe. And revone is not the easiest way to unlock the device, can easily screw up the phone.IF unfamiliar with adb commands use the htcdev site to avoid issues until your more comfortable.
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Rooting itself seems easy, shouldn't be a problem. Well I could use twrp, which is better, that or cwm? Yea I'm not so good with adb... I get confused a lot, esp with spaces and characters... Like is there a space or whatnot.. long story lol
Yea I had an HTC sensation with greenify.. can't even remember how I rooted it hahaha. But the dev thing seems the way to go. Would you please be able to explain to me what odexed /deodexed means? Thanks!
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chc31 said:
And s-off unlocks the device for custom roms right?
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If you don't know what s off is you don't need it yet... Do some more research and etc...but for now head over to HTCdev.com and then flash cwm or twrp..then you can simply flash a stock rooted Rom or whateve you may wish...
And for quaestion about back up...just back up anything you may want to your computer ...sd contents will be formatted with unlock

chc31 said:
Rooting itself seems easy, shouldn't be a problem. Well I could use twrp, which is better, that or cwm? Yea I'm not so good with adb... I get confused a lot, esp with spaces and characters... Like is there a space or whatnot.. long story lol
Yea I had an HTC sensation with greenify.. can't even remember how I rooted it hahaha. But the dev thing seems the way to go. Would you please be able to explain to me what odexed /deodexed means? Thanks!
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18th.abn said:
Typically, a rom is supposed to be odexed for smoother and faster loading of apps into memory. Each app(.apk) has a corresponding sister file(.odex). When a app is opened, called to memory, the. Odex has the information needed to start loading the app. A rom that is deodexed has only the.apk file. So when it is opened/called to memory the information to load the app is inside of the .apk and and must be pulled from it to begin loading it into memory. So at this level you would probably ask "then why are most custom roms deodexed?" People really started deodexing roms for themability. It is much much simplier to theme roms that are deodexed. It wasnt for faster speeds but for easier customization. So "themers" could build custom themes instead of have to build a whole themed rom. So now on one side you have odexed for speed, or deodexed for customizations? Well the brilliant devs in the android world came up with pretty good solutions to even out the field. In most any custom deodexed, youll see that they zipalign all the .apks in boot. While boot up time will be slightly longer, zipaligning optimizes every. Apk on every reboot which basically optimizes the information in each. Apk so when it is called to memory, the information is at the ready and quickly loaded witbout the need of a. Odex file. I kinda rambled here but wanted to answer this one as best i could because i kno many people wonder, and not a whole lot always ask. Hope this helps explain a little bit for anyone curious. :beer:
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There you go!

a box of kittens said:
There you go!
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Awesome, thank you! Such a helpful community haha. And could I flash the Xperia stuff on a non-deoxed Rom but use zipalign? Am I getting this correctly?
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No,if the mod is deodexed,the rom must be deodexed
chc31 said:
Awesome, thank you! Such a helpful community haha. And could I flash the Xperia stuff on a non-deoxed Rom but use zipalign? Am I getting this correctly?
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Wonders_Never_Cease said:
No,if the mod is deodexed,the rom must be deodexed
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Simple and straightforward, thanks!

revone can be used to unlock, you don't HAVE to S-Off with it.

[Noob]Custom ROM instructions.

I'm new to android.I'm quite confused about the whole custom Rom installation process.I managed to unlock bootloader and root my phone.I tried to find guides to let me install custom roms on my device.I have a vague idea about the whole process but whenever I look at a ROM release thread, half the information there is beyond me.I would be happy if someone pointed me in the right direction to a complete guide with noob friendly instructions.Also, I would prefer to stay S-On, can someone help me with the whole s-off regarding custom Rom stuff too?
Thanks.
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Nanda K said:
I'm new to android.I'm quite confused about the whole custom Rom installation process.I managed to unlock bootloader and root my phone.I tried to find guides to let me install custom roms on my device.I have a vague idea about the whole process but whenever I look at a ROM release thread, half the information there is beyond me.I would be happy if someone pointed me in the right direction to a complete guide with noob friendly instructions.Also, I would prefer to stay S-On, can someone help me with the whole s-off regarding custom Rom stuff too?
Thanks.
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You don't need s-off to flash most custom roms. Only some GPE version will require s-off.
Flash twrp 2.8.5.0
boot your phone in recovery mode
plug your phone to your pc
place your rom.zip on your phone storage
in twrp select "install"
choose your rom.zip
swipe to flash
Follow instructions from the rom installer (aroma installer)
reboot

Nanda K said:
I'm new to android.I'm quite confused about the whole custom Rom installation process.I managed to unlock bootloader and root my phone.I tried to find guides to let me install custom roms on my device.I have a vague idea about the whole process but whenever I look at a ROM release thread, half the information there is beyond me.I would be happy if someone pointed me in the right direction to a complete guide with noob friendly instructions.Also, I would prefer to stay S-On, can someone help me with the whole s-off regarding custom Rom stuff too?
Thanks.
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Ill be honest. Doing things like this are not meant to be noob friendly.
Take about a week and do lots of reading this way if something goes wrong you will know how to recover.

That's what I'm having trouble with.I cant seem to find any solid reading material for stuff like these.For example, will restoring a nandroid backup really fix problems like bootloops and other errors you may run into while flashing ROMS? Also,how do kernels and ROMs match up? are they independent of each other or do certain ROMs work only when you have a particular kernel installed? will a wrong kernel cause any issues with certain ROMs and I'm seriously scared of bricking my device since the amount you're required to know is quite vast.I used to have an iPhone until the HTC One M7 and I was pretty much an advanced user on the iOS platform.I wouldnt call myself a noob, but I cant call myself an advanced android user either.Atleast not yet.

Nanda K said:
That's what I'm having trouble with.I cant seem to find any solid reading material for stuff like these.For example, will restoring a nandroid backup really fix problems like bootloops and other errors you may run into while flashing ROMS? Also,how do kernels and ROMs match up? are they independent of each other or do certain ROMs work only when you have a particular kernel installed? will a wrong kernel cause any issues with certain ROMs and I'm seriously scared of bricking my device since the amount you're required to know is quite vast.I used to have an iPhone until the HTC One M7 and I was pretty much an advanced user on the iOS platform.I wouldnt call myself a noob, but I cant call myself an advanced android user either.Atleast not yet.
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Wow yeah you need to do alot of reading then. Now while I mean no insult. Being an advanced user for IOS and jumping to android is like going from first grade and then jumping to the 12th.
Yes depending on the device kernels only work with matching roms. Take the m7 you mentioned. You have 4 kind of kernels. AOSP, AOSP-Caf, Sense and CM
Each has to be paired with a matching rom. IF you flash the wrong one then it can cause a bootloop. Never expect a nandroid to be a fix all. While it will fix things alot of the time it is not an end all to fixing a bad flash. Sometimes you will have to flash things with a bootloader from command line. Depending on your OS on your PC there could also be other issues. So at times you may need a linux based live disc or partition.

Nanda K said:
That's what I'm having trouble with.I cant seem to find any solid reading material for stuff like these.For example, will restoring a nandroid backup really fix problems like bootloops and other errors you may run into while flashing ROMS? Also,how do kernels and ROMs match up? are they independent of each other or do certain ROMs work only when you have a particular kernel installed? will a wrong kernel cause any issues with certain ROMs and I'm seriously scared of bricking my device since the amount you're required to know is quite vast.I used to have an iPhone until the HTC One M7 and I was pretty much an advanced user on the iOS platform.I wouldnt call myself a noob, but I cant call myself an advanced android user either.Atleast not yet.
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Your in safe hands with this forum....theres not nuch that cannot be solved if you go wrong,however there are a multitude of good videos on you tube .
I found this guys videos very easy to follow https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKlOmM_eB0nzTNiDFZibSSA
A little out of date now but a good image of what to do,backed up with the knowledge base on this forum its relatively easy!
Once you have a custom recovery make back ups before you do anything,I found buying an OTG cable and USB drive a good way to create lots of back ups ,so if things go wrong you have a good restore point.
Unlikely to brick your device if you keep S-on ,build up your confidence and go S-off when you can...its like xmas everyday once you know how to use the power it brings!

Okay,let me start off simple.My HTC One M7 is on complete stock now.Running Lollipop from HTC.It is an unlocked Hong Kong version.Bootloader unlocked and TWRP recovery flashed.I need a kernel which will enable motion launch gestures as on the one m8 and also functions like sweep2wake etc.Can someone link me to the appropriate kernel to flash?
I know how to flash the kernel, I have trouble choosing the right one.
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Nanda K said:
Okay,let me start off simple.My HTC One M7 is on complete stock now.Running Lollipop from HTC.It is an unlocked Hong Kong version.Bootloader unlocked and TWRP recovery flashed.I need a kernel which will enable motion launch gestures as on the one m8 and also functions like sweep2wake etc.Can someone link me to the appropriate kernel to flash?
I know how to flash the kernel, I have trouble choosing the right one.
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If you are running stock rom (sense 6) + lollipop and your phone is a M7_UL or M7_U then ElementalX 20.1 should work fine

From one noob to another haha
I really like ViperOne mods, but I haven't used Elements.
alray nailed it -- easiest ROM install.
you need to install TWRP first.
I used the HTC One Toolkit for this, you can find it on XDA. (Sorry new user, I can't post links)
I assume your phone is still unlocked. -- if not, unlock it
Have Debug mode Enabled on your phone. (Settings -> About -> Software information -> More -> Click Build number 10 times)
Settings -> Developer options -> USB Debugging -> Checked
Using HTC One Toolkit, click ADB -> Devices
this will start adb. you might wait a second or 5 for your device to be shown.
Then click the Pull down reboot menu select bootloader, then click Reboot.
-the phone should reboot into the Bootloader.
Select Fastboot, press power button.
Then in HTC One Toolkit, close the adb window and click Fastboot.
Click Devices
-Your device should show in the main HTC One Toolkit window.
Once you see that, Under Label Flash, press ... button and select the TWRP you just downloaded. Then select Partition Recovery, then Flash.
Once complete and successful, reboot the phone into Recovery from the phone's menu.
!! NOTE !! You must reboot into Recovery before starting the ROM. Or it may re-write the Recovery.
Once in Recovery, reboot the phone from within Recovery and let it start normally.
Copy your rom (in .zip format) onto your phone. I make new folder called roms or mods on my phones so I don't lose track of where things are.
Once your Rom is copied to your phone (I suggest ViperOne 8.0.0.0), use ADB again and reboot the phone into recovery.
From TWRP Touch Install
navigate to your folder where your ROM is (zip file)
Click it and install.
I wipe all settings when I install a new ROM.
Good luck!
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_FBi said:
I used the HTC One Toolkit for this, you can find it on XDA. (Sorry new user, I can't post links)
Using HTC One Toolkit, click ADB -> Devices
Then in HTC One Toolkit
-Your device should show in the main HTC One Toolkit window.
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And I would highly recommend not using any toolkits but instead take an extra 30 mins to learn how to use adb and fastboot properly so if something bad happens you know how to deal with it.
Most noobs are totally stuck if something is not working as expected when using a toolkit. Wen you took the time learning adb and fastboot you'll know how to deal with most issues when flashing roms/recovery/ruu/frimware/kernel/radio and more. When you did not took any time to learn adb and fastboot and using a toolkit instead, when something unexpected happen, you'll just be stuck there because your little toolkit doesn't have any "I'm screwed, what should I do?" button.

alray said:
And I would highly recommend not using any toolkits but instead take an extra 30 mins to learn how to use adb and fastboot properly so if something bad happens you know how to deal with it.
Most noobs are totally stuck if something is not working as expected when using a toolkit. Wen you took the time learning adb and fastboot you'll know how to deal with most issues when flashing roms/recovery/ruu/frimware/kernel/radio and more. When you did not took any time to learn adb and fastboot and using a toolkit instead, when something unexpected happen, you'll just be stuck there because your little toolkit doesn't have any "I'm screwed, what should I do?" button.
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I have nothing against using using tools, so long as they're trusted.
Nor is there anything wrong doing it by hand, if not more beneficial.
All in one tools bypass a lot of the understanding.
Alray's first post was right to the point, basic, and a perfect example.
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I do know how to use adb and command line to do all that.Intact I did not know that there was a toolkit to do this before I read that post
I do have some experience with the HTC wildfire and sensation XL.But they were considerably older devices which I used a long time ago as temporary ones.
The HTC One is my first non iOS device.
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