As per the topic title, should we start demanding the JW4 source from Samsung?
If I am correct, it has been 6 months since the last source update?
What are your thoughts?
Ask them.
If they give you the full source of everything they can give you a source, upload it and the community will praise you... and Sammy
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Demands probably won't get you very far. What Samsung does, or rather, how they do it, is really a courtesy. I'm sure in time they'll offer it, and our ROMs will benefit greatly from it.
Asking never hurts though!
It is their legal obligation under the gpl. I don't think "demand" is too strong.
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force those little buggers
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It is their legal obligation under the gpl. I don't think "demand" is too strong.
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The propietary drivers and code isn't under GPL, and they are not required to provide us.
i think they will release the code as latest present for us...
i have asked them to rls and waiting for an answer if i got some i will post it here
i think some more should ask them to release, but dont demand or get angry... the source is not gpl or something like that
sure would be nice to ask, would help GB rom development im sure.
When we get official update from Samsung we will get sources, it was same when we got official gingerbread update. Don't worry you will get proper big ram karnel that doesn't break anything. Have patience people.
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Motorola just released the source code for the Droid 3 on Sourceforge.
Source code
I was just going to start a thread on this edgan
Pardon my French but...
**** YEAH!
So does source mean we just don't have to find an exploit, and can create compatible, rootable ROMs without cracking the official one? Or does it mean we can get root, too?
It means neither. You'd still need signed keys to flash anything created from the released source code.
However, if there are any exploits, having the source might assist in finding them.
Hell yes!
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What exactly what is the source code
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saintlikesniper said:
What exactly what is the source code
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The last eight minutes of a memory.
idkwhothatis123 said:
The last eight minutes of a memory.
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Hahah it blew up.... let's do it again!
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I'm desperate for root haha, but the d3 is still an awesome phone w/o it
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Quite an interesting move by Motorola, wonder what their motivation was.
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Quite an interesting move by Motorola, wonder what their motivation was.
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Every single Android device must have the source code released. It's part of the AOSP license, these companies can't use Android without releasing this code.
Yay!
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Yeah I heard that the source code wont help much either.
BUT(not related to this)
I think we have a bigger chance of getting an official sbf now. Reason being is that there is an update that is being pushed to test and dev devices (I think it's 5.6.960 or something), hopefully somewhere between this road a moto employee or tester can give back to the community haha
So a few things of note, and I wanted to articulate this right, those of you in the IRC have heard this rambling.
1) Watchdog. Do NOT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES try to kill a Kernel process. That's another sure-fire way to trip the eFuse, and brick your phone, save you have a SMD compatible JTAG for the FPGA. (If that last part went over your head, DEFINITELY do not attempt)
2) Kernel file "pause_on_oops". If a kernel module is improperly loaded, modified, or unloaded, it will cause a lot of wonky stuff to happen in the kernel. On any kernel panic, the kernel halts instead of dropping to a debugger. It also sets a few flags that stop the kernel from booting, and that in turn sets more flags that stop booting, ad nauseum.
This still leaves bugs and stuff to explore. Race conditions, buffer overflows and the likes are still likely targets.
@royolpunk
Have to agree on that, i'm not too fussed tbo but i'd like to fix the blue camera tint.
-smc
God speed developers! I thank you all for your time, effort and patience. Destination is almost on the horizon. BEAST IT!
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God speed developers! I thank you all for your time, effort and patience. Destination is almost on the horizon. BEAST IT!
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I second this. Thank you, devs. I am in my undergrad program for IT/web development, so I am not completely dumb when it comes to IT/programming, but you guys make me feel like a dumb ass! I commend you for your efforts as well as your massive brains!
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If you guys want join the irc channel #krazyk. We can all learn something new
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Obviously, having source code once we root will be of enormous help in developing quality kernels and ROMs (like cyanogenmod!), but won't help rooting right now. All the doors are locked, but now we know who lives inside
So speaking of race conditions, is there any point to exploring the bootloader-to-recovery race condition (via messing with the sdcard slot) that allowed the Droid Incredible to be root (even before Unrevoked figured out a general HTC exploit kit), or are we talking apples to oranges?
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Personally I'm not impressed by cm10 and the other custom jelly bean ROMs, I know it's Samsung's fault because they haven't released the source code and I'm starting to wonder if we should expect a big step in performance from the official jb update.
The devs will probably know the shortfall of the current custom ROMs so should be able to better answer my question.
Any smart predictions on when it might be out too?
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You throw an insult and want feedback from the same people. Good luck with that mate.
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You throw an insult and want feedback from the same people. Good luck with that mate.
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Insult? Where, please??
I specifically started that it's Samsung's fault for not releasing the sources, it's not the developers fault. The devs have done an amazing job so far.
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Well i will agree with u you to some extent. If wr compare cm 9 with cm 10. Cm9 was revolutionary but its not the devs fault. Because JB has nothing new in it for general people like us. Just a lil more smoother experience which is less perceptible for most with a good ics experience. I would say google should make it an update rather than a whole new flavor. But its their choice its their OS. Mostly a marketing strategy to make us feel obsolete and force us to upgrade. But i am happy wih my note and its dev community. Still so much to do on it.
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I think our phone needs more love, So...
How can we attract more devs/cooks to contribute to this phone? I have no idea how developers community works!
well, donating...
In a couple of days, i receive my LG 4x, and i think for "a few dollars more" (=donation) we will get a lot of funny dev-stuff in the future.
The 4x is still a young model
If anyone wants something super cool either start a bounty or chip in to buy a top dev a O4X
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We already donated kholk who'll give us great 3.4 kernel, and we have official CM too.
It would be great to get official Paranoid.
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I still don't understand why people should donate to get ROMs.
The 4x HD is still young, you just have to wait a bit. Many devs will do something for the 4x HD soon... like I want to do
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Well, to be honest, people should donate to show appreciation for the job done. I understand nobody HAS to develop a ROM for us, so it's nice to feel appreciated when they do. And they do have PC maintenance, broadband bills and electricity bills to pay in order to develop them for our use.
On the other hand, I agree that we shouldn't HAVE to donate in order to have ROMs. That type of strategy is just not the way I think this sort of stuff should get done.
Well, remember guys that we have kholk in our community because of money collecting that i organised xD (ofc He bought the phone of that) I'd thought that He's the developer who has high exp. with Tegra3 phones, so.. Yes, He didn't unlocked bootloader but His developing is just great, You guys will see it very soon
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We already donated kholk who'll give us great 3.4 kernel, and we have official CM too.
It would be great to get official Paranoid.
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Awesome!
I wish i had option to donate too
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But I don't know why people should donate to get ROMs. Okay, if it is already out, and you like it, you can donate it. But honestly, there are many "free" devs.
For example: would you pay to go outside?
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Donation is an incentive, a way to recognize others work. I see it that way.
But of course, after having good results, not average... If it's good, 100% functional I'll donate, otherwise forget it
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From today I will start supporting this device .
So this is the reason for shuting down gamerzrom:
Thread Closed:
Using other's work without permission is against forum rules.
But it was a great rom, and should have been even better with the next release, and now with just one sentence all is gone. I would like to believe there is more to this than burakgon stoled someone`s work and used it without permission. I mean they are all devs, and i think sharing among each other is the only way to achive something greater. So why not try talking it out, maybe it was an missunderstanding, then if you are still upset, unleash moderators wrath on him.
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So this is the reason for shuting down gamerzrom:
Thread Closed:
Using other's work without permission is against forum rules.
But it was a great rom, and should have been even better with the next release, and now with just one sentence all is gone. I would like to believe there is more to this than burakgon stoled someone`s work and used it without permission. I mean they are all devs, and i think sharing among each other is the only way to achive something greater. So why not try talking it out, maybe it was an missunderstanding, then if you are still upset, unleash moderators wrath on him.
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Yes my friend. I stoled camera.png which is very special work of some very special dev.... I can't get it. Someone collected some png files from samsung rom dumps and published them as their special work. Now they reporting me. Even apple is more fair about laws. Whatever. I don't care about themes. GamerzROM 4.0 UNSTOPPABLE is soon!
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Yes my friend. I stoled camera.png which is very special work of some very special dev.... I can't get it. Someone collected some png files from samsung rom dumps and published them as their special work. Now they reporting me. Even apple is more fair about laws. Whatever. I don't care about themes. GamerzROM 4.0 UNSTOPPABLE is soon!
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Burakgon we are with you we are spreading the name and looking forward to the new version please keep up the amazing work
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Thats a bad joke ??!
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Cancel camera, i will load the rom
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nothing more....nothing less, should hear from da person who makes da report first then come up with conclusion.
anyway, mr burakgon, sorry for da decision as we cannot protest da admin as they hav authority over it. but i really appreciate ur spirit. keep it up n show da world who u re
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Cancel camera, i will load the rom
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I didn't steal amy apk or real dev product. Only used a few png files from samsung roms and some interesting people claimed rights on it. Thanks everyone. That's not problem I will start a new thread after new build completed.
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O man my heart stopped when I saw your account disabled
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Woah, thread was closed just like that without giving you a chance to explain? I'm shocked...
Hope it's settled soon, love your rom, keep up the good work, we'll fill your thanks meter
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I didn't steal amy apk or real dev product. Only used a few png files from samsung roms and some interesting people claimed rights on it. Thanks everyone. That's not problem I will start a new thread after new build completed.
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Well this is why i opened this thread, i believed that you dont need to "steal" other`s work, because you are capable doing it with your own experience and knowledge. Good that this is cleared for anyone who is following your work. We are pattiently waiting for next release, and wish you and your girlfriend (or fiancee or wife not sure ) best in life. Piece out
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Yes my friend. I stoled camera.png which is very special work of some very special dev.... I can't get it. Someone collected some png files from samsung rom dumps and published them as their special work. Now they reporting me. Even apple is more fair about laws. Whatever. I don't care about themes. GamerzROM 4.0 UNSTOPPABLE is soon!
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Hey, glad to hear your side of it (I was pretty surprised as well when I saw that the thread was closed D: ).
Keen for the Unstoppable build
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Can't wait for 4.0
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I didn't steal amy apk or real dev product. Only used a few png files from samsung roms and some interesting people claimed rights on it. Thanks everyone. That's not problem I will start a new thread after new build completed.
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Oh so that's a robbery for him
Even he stole it from Samsung without permissions
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While browsing through the device list at the Cyanogenmod download page I found a place holder for the Galaxy S3 Mini. Might be that sooner or later there'll be an Official CM release for it. Do you guys think it would boost our development as well due to the same chipset?
Simply search for Samsung devices and scroll down. http://beta.get.cm/search
Not exactly we have the same with s3 mini but yeah it can. Even now, the devs from various device with similar chipset (including ours) are helping each other out in sorting out the remaining bugs in cm. So the development for these devices are the same. :good:
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Not exactly we have the same with s3 mini but yeah it can. Even now, the devs from various device with similar chipset (including ours) are helping each other out in sorting out the remaining bugs in cm. So the development for these devices are the same. :good:
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Official cm development is completely different. Did you ever heard about codeworkx or cdesai? Well they can make fully working cm in a week or two. (i'm not saying that Team Canjica is doing bad work , we miss sources so we have lots of problems)
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KINGbabasula said:
Official cm development is completely different. Did you ever heard about codeworkx or cdesai? Well they can make fully working cm in a week or two. (i'm not saying that Team Canjica is doing bad work )
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Can't they buy an s Advance then...
No I'm a Canjica supporter! They put so much time and effort in their work.
Team Advance Theme
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Can't they buy an s Advance then...
No I'm a Canjica supporter! They put so much time and effort in their work.
Team Advance Theme
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Yes they can buy an s advance. 190€ is nothing for them. I'm a Team Canjica supporter too. I was just marking the differences
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Yes they can buy an s advance. 190€ is nothing for them. I'm a Team Canjica supporter too. I was just marking the differences
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Lol. I've paid 320 f***ing euros for this phone half a year ago....
Scumbags..
But indeed there are differences. And Canjica is making progress everyday. It's more usefull to provide them logcats etc than asking if we can use other phones projects etc...
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Lol. I've paid 320 f***ing euros for this phone half a year ago....
Scumbags..
But indeed there are differences. And Canjica is making progress everyday. It's more usefull to provide them logcats etc than asking if we can use other phones projects etc...
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I paid 270€, i'm thinking about going for s4 with donations received
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KINGbabasula said:
I paid 270€, i'm thinking about going for s4 with donations received
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you (or another dev) can not get help from any official cyano dev? or any of the devs who are trying to run the cm, enter and work with cyanogenmod (the official cyano)? or am I talking about things that never come up: S
just an idea :/
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you (or another dev) can not get help from any official cyano dev? or any of the devs who are trying to run the cm, enter and work with cyanogenmod (the official cyano)? or am I talking about things that never come up: S
just an idea :/
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It isn't possible. They are too busy and they aren't interested in building for this device. It's old and owned by a few people. And this means NO MONEY so they won't help us
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It isn't possible. They are too busy and they aren't interested in building for this device. It's old and owned by a few people.
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DDDDDDDDDDDDD: :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
definitely my next mobile will be one nexus, is the only way for getting a god support :/(without neglecting the work they do here in xda devs), as after all the s advance is just wonderful
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DDDDDDDDDDDDD: :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
Definitely my next mobile will be one nexus, is the only way for getting a god support :/(without neglecting the work they do here in xda devs), as after all the s advance is just wonderful
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Mine, definitely will be a XPERIA (either SP or ZL) because they have support of Jerpelea (FXP) and DoomLord, i've seen their threads (SP and ZL) ZL already has FXP support for CM10.1 and it's confirmed for SP, so, your decision :/
And, XPERIA seems to have a lot more build/material quality than Samsung devices :/ even if ours are easier to hack but their system security makes the user know they put more effort on the things they do.
Did someone already saw Sony Xperia's YouTube channel? They make more than one awesome commercial for each phone they sell, while ours barely has one and it's from Italy (i don't mean it's bad but more countries doesn't even care). They develop more software to better the user experience (Bravia Engine, X Loud, Clear Audio).
Blame me if you want, but i'd wish Samsung paid more attention to user experience for each phone instead focusing the reflectors just to Galaxy S series (just flagships) more people would take more seriously their phones or products...
Sent from a phone >.<
if matt absolutely right, the problem is that this drawing samsung thousand and smartphones but does not support them, while Sony takes less smartphone but are optimized to 100%, and most interesting features ... in the end I think that after this cycle ends my samsung :/ (unless the nexus samsung come either), do not say that your smartphone is bad, but Samsung was allowed to stand and the other phone companies are taking better or talk about what he's up to now motorola: z
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if matt absolutely right, the problem is that this drawing samsung thousand and smartphones but does not support them, while Sony takes less smartphone but are optimized to 100%, and most interesting features ... in the end I think that after this cycle ends my samsung :/ (unless the nexus samsung come either), do not say that your smartphone is bad, but Samsung was allowed to stand and the other phone companies are taking better or talk about what he's up to now motorola: z
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Money makes the world go round.
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KINGbabasula said:
Official cm development is completely different. Did you ever heard about codeworkx or cdesai? Well they can make fully working cm in a week or two. (i'm not saying that Team Canjica is doing bad work , we miss sources so we have lots of problems)
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They could make a fully working cm without sources, just in two weeks? I doubt it..
My next phone would be nexus 4..
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They could make a fully working cm without sources, just in two weeks? I doubt it..
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We will see
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One correction!
Codeworkx or cdesai or any other dev for that matter do not work for money..
They work if they wish. These guys can get cm to boot on any device within 2 days. But they support many devices simultaneously. So they opt for devices with large user base.
Cdesai is a kid, he wouldn't care about money anyhow! Donations are just an appreciation for their work..
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One correction!
Codeworkx or cdesai or any other dev for that matter do not work for money..
They work if they wish. These guys can get cm to boot on any device within 2 days. But they support many devices simultaneously. So they opt for devices with large user base.
Cdesai is a kid, he wouldn't care about money anyhow! Donations are just an appreciation for their work..
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Yep but remember that with money it's better
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If money would be an impulse, they would be real American capitalists...
Just sayin
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If money would be an impulse, they would be real American capitalists...
Just sayin
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Can i lol?