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NAT + Tllt + WifiRouter + XBox live question.......(HELP)

Here's my situation:
I've been using my Tilt as a Wifi router to play with my friends on Xbox live because my university's internet blocks Xbox live. I've been using the WMWifiRouter program and it works flawlessly. The 3G speeds could be better, but hey, I'm not complaining.
Well my problem is that whenever we try to join somebody else's party on Xbox live it won't allow us because it says our "NAT type is strict". What does this mean? Also, other players are unable to join our party.
But, whenever we do matchmaking it works fine. It's just that we can't play with our other friends outside of the dorms because we're not on the same internet connection. We can only play with the random people that we're assigned to play with via matchmaking.
I realize this is a vary narrow subject, but I'm hoping there's somebody out there who can help me.
How could I go about changing my NAT type? Is there a way to make it open?

klrob33 said:
Here's my situation:
I've been using my Tilt as a Wifi router to play with my friends on Xbox live because my university's internet blocks Xbox live. I've been using the WMWifiRouter program and it works flawlessly. The 3G speeds could be better, but hey, I'm not complaining.
Well my problem is that whenever we try to join somebody else's party on Xbox live it won't allow us because it says our "NAT type is strict". What does this mean? Also, other players are unable to join our party.
But, whenever we do matchmaking it works fine. It's just that we can't play with our other friends outside of the dorms because we're not on the same internet connection. We can only play with the random people that we're assigned to play with via matchmaking.
I realize this is a vary narrow subject, but I'm hoping there's somebody out there who can help me.
How could I go about changing my NAT type? Is there a way to make it open?
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When I got this error I had to upgrade the firmware on the router connected to my x360. but because you are using your phone as the router, you obviously cannot do that. The 360 has a limited amount of routers that it's compatible with, so I'd say your stuck with strict NAT until you leave you dorm room.

The NAT type will most likely be controlled by the software you are using to share the connection (unless your phone network uses NAT). Try a different piece of software (if there is one )
Do you know if WMWifiRouter can do port forwarding because that may help with the problem?

Not sure but sounds like you can't host cause you going through a proxy and unlike cable or dsl and so on you not getting a real internet IP address for others to join you. Just a thought.....

Stop playing COD4 and you will be fine. . i opened up the DMZ on my router and it fixed my problem.

Sorry, I don't have an answer for you. But I feel obligated to comment on how amazingly awesome that is.

You have to open ports on the router (or in this case your phone). To do this you will need to know the assigned IP of the Xbox, and use the port forwarding feature on WiFiRouter.
Here is a tutorial on setting up the xbox and ports:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Guide-to-Opening-NAT-Xbox-360-71775.shtml
Here is the guide for WiFiRouter:
http://support.wmwifirouter.com/documentation/
Specific Section on port forwarding:
http://support.wmwifirouter.com/documentation/29/Port_mappings

hey i tried something similar to this but i never got it working. i shared my interent concetion to my laptop and then set up network sharing from there to my xbox but it failed at dns on the test.
can any one think of a way to do this with out the wifi adapter for the 360?

Wifi tethering without internet

Hello.
I'm trying to connect two wireless devices (HTC hero with a WM device or PSP for example) and I want to do that without an AP.
As far as I know that's possible with AD-HOC network, but wireless tether on android seems to only share internet and not just create a wireless network and since I don't have data-plan it doesn't let me tether.
I'm basically trying to create a walkie-talkie or a messenger app
So... is it possible to create and AD-HOC connection on my phone (not for the internet)?
Thanks in advance.

couldn't you just call (walkie talkie) or sms (messenger) the other wireless device?

Sorry but that was a really dumb reply.
The purpose is to make free calls and send free messages if you haven't figured that out already and even though I'm not going to be actually using this, it's interesting to try and I could also finally put some use to my PSP.
Also it has to be *specifically* wifi.
As far as I know the Nintendo-DS supports something like this. Is that true?

I thought of this aswell.
Could be very usefull!

AP Mode

Anyone have a clue, how to get this working in the hero? Adhoc just doesn't cut it.

not going to happen, the hardware does not support it.
what device or os won't join ad hoc? Ive even had ipod touch's joined to my ad hoc hero wifi network. I know windows, mac and linux will all join ad hoc too, so wtf?

Low cost Android tablets are having a lot of trouble joining ad hoc.

Ps3, or other phones

Psp! And yeah, other phones wont connect to ad-hocs either. But not being able to use game consoles is a major buzzkill.
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DSL Internet? I know you already pay for your data but come on, gaming on it? Or are you counting on the lagginess to get you better KDR on mw2?

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DSL Internet? I know you already pay for your data but come on, gaming on it? Or are you counting on the lagginess to get you better KDR on mw2?
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Only people who have played that sad campfest they call a game would understand how funny this comment is.

Gaming on evdo is ridiculous, but if you must do it you could always just use a pc/netbook/laptop to share the wireless connection over wired Ethernet to the console.
tethered internet from a hero is tolerable but I couldn't imagine trying to use it as a primary/only internet connection for any length of time.
why would you connect other phones to a wifi tether? each phone should already have a data plan so i don't get the point..

ipfreelytech said:
Gaming on evdo is ridiculous, but if you must do it you could always just use a pc/netbook/laptop to share the wireless connection over wired Ethernet to the console.
tethered internet from a hero is tolerable but I couldn't imagine trying to use it as a primary/only internet connection for any length of time.
why would you connect other phones to a wifi tether? each phone should already have a data plan so i don't get the point..
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Yeah its pretty obvious you don't.
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I have been able to setup my Linksys WRT54G with dd-wrt firmware flashed and have it use my phone's data and broadcast it through the router. The router is not inadhoc mode. I had to keep tweaking with all the settings to get it to work like I wanted. There are 2 reasons that I would not do it on a regular basis, especially if you are trying to play networked games.
1. The phone becomes really hot if you do not have it in front of a fan and can fry your phone
2. The download speed may be intermediate depending on where you are and the time of day, but the upload speeds can be very slow. Considering a majority of gamers have 6Mbs down and somewhere around 512Kbs - 1Mb up you will be falling behind.

[Q] MobileAP/X-Box Live Compatibility?

Hey guys, I'm a long time lurker, first time thread-starter, and I hope there is a simple solution to this.
This is more of a proof-of-concept question, and since the PS3 is capable of connecting to a tethering application I figured an XB could as well.
Recently, I updated my Captivate's ROM to the SREv1.3.1c (it was the ROM before he renamed it to Cognition). One of the added benefits was the addition of the Mobile Access POint, which is way better than PDANet in my opinion, but I digress.
Anyway, I've managed to turn the AP on and get it to connect to a PS3 with no issues and very little lag, which was awesome. However, the XBox is being a pain in the ***. i can go to my network connections on the XB, and my wireless attachment "sees" the connection just fine. It also connects and pulls both a IP and DNS server address. I even get 5 bars of great signal.
But when I run a XBL test, when it tries to connect to the internet it craps the bed and does nothing. Now, I've seen people get XBL to connect over similar tethering apps, even PDANet with its shaky connection issues, but I can't seem to figure this one out. As far as I can tell, maybe 3G has too high of a latency to be compatable, but I figured I'd ask the experts of XDA. Can anyone help?

Did I forget to say please or something? Any pointers?

Hey just wondering what is your configuration. like are you connecting with wi-fi from the phone, do you have a laptop to use? that is one of the easiest ways. or are you just usb direct into the console?

Well presently I'm using MobileAP which broadcasts a wifi signal that my laptop can pick up (it's how I'm typing this at the moment as well). It can be seen, like I said, but the XB won't get past the internet part of the diagnostic test.
I also had PDAnet installed a while ago so I know how to usb tether but couldnt get that to work on XBL either.

Setting up chromecast without WiFi

So I'm in the army right now, which means there's a TV but no WiFi available.
I did think of just setting up a Hotspot with another phone but it gets pretty annoying having to have 2 people at all time.
So I went digging in the Internet and found someone at a random forum (can't find it now for credit..), that said that If you set up the Hotspot in your own phone and configure it with another one you don't need the other one around anymore - being the Hotspot works as being connected to it.
Now I'm pretty sure there shouldn't be any reason I couldn't set it up on my own phone (the hotspot), except the Google home app just demands I connect to the WiFi network, which I can't do because you can't connect to yourself sadly.
I think if someone made some changes to the Google home app, or made an alternative set up app it could work. I have no idea how to code an app, so I came here ?
tl:dr I Want an app that does the same as the home app for setting chromecast up, but without checking if I'm connected to a WiFi network. (I think)

I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.

Asphyx said:
I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.
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Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.

exeLz said:
Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.
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Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.

Asphyx said:
Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.
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To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right

exeLz said:
To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right
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Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.

Asphyx said:
Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.
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That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.

exeLz said:
That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.
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The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.

Asphyx said:
The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.
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Like I said, once the setup is done, being the Hotspot is just like being connected to is. The app still doesn't recognize you're connected but if you're on the web the chromecast icon does pop up when needed, all the third party apps do recognize you as being connected.

All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,

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Asphyx said:
All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,
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Yea I know, but sometimes friends take it or something and it's a pain in the ass to explain everything, and even when I do it means I gotta reconnect at my end again which is annoying just thought someone could maybe find a solution that sounded really simple for me, guess not, too bad..
Thanks anyway!

Well trying to recode Home is a dead end....Android wouldn't even let you install it!
You guys should just chip in and buy the puck.
It will even let you use Tablets and Laptops as well as simplify the CCast use.

I know this is an older post; not sure if you are still interested. I read all the replies and not sure what to make of it as far as if anyone had a working solution or not. No disrespect to anyone, but I couldn't tell for sure so I'm posting a link to my solution which does work. The two important steps are included. One is using " other wifi" in the drop down list when searching for your hotspot. The second is enabling GUEST MODE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/how-to-cast-screen-android-phone-to-t4032653

I’m trying something similar with a Chromecast 3rd gen and iPhone 5S (iOS 12). Main issue seems to be guest mode doesn’t work at all on any apps, and pretty much every solution i’ve seen to this results in guest mode being used for the eventual casting. If you have android or iOS 13 then ymmv.
The only solution i’ve found are workarounds, the obvious being
1) don’t buy a chromecast (it’s not much of a solution but hey it’s $30).
2) use a secondary device to cast.
3) use a tethered travel router, and this can be done with only a phone and mobile data for internet, but there’s a catch:
First i’d Recommend any router by GLi.net (cheapest “mango” router is about $20) as they support iOS and android and both WiFi and usb tethering.
Also, i’ve Tried using a WiFi hotspot on the phone, and it’s the same issue - no connection to the chromecast regardless of how. However... iPhones will allow you to create a hotspot using *only* cables usb tethering, so if you set the router up to *only* accept internet via cables tether (turn off WiFi/repeater tethering), then you can have both the chromecast and iPhone connect to the routers WiFi, whilst providing net access to the router (and WiFi network) from the same iphone’s mobile data via usb. Simple howoto:
Important: Turn OFF WiFi on the phone, and turn off hotspot.
Connect phone to router via usb, accept trust settings.
Turn on personal hotspot, you’ll get a message asking whether to use WiFi or just usb (andbluetooth if it’s also turned on). Select just usb/Bluetooth.
Wait until blue connection bar shows on phone (if not, make sure routers setup properly to gain net via usb tethering).
Now, turn on WiFi on the phone, and connect to routers WiFi.
Setup chromecast as normal, selecting to connect to routers WiFi too.
Note turning hotspot off and on again whilst WiFi is running will start a hotspot on WiFi and disconnect you from router WiFi, so you’ll always have to go through process of turning WiFi off, turn hotspot on, turn WiFi on.
So you can do this with the right router and a usb connection to phone. Or maybe android and working guest mode. Otheriwse, ...fire tv anyone?