i know the "whats better" question has been asked a million times w/ tom tom, google and windows live etc....but here's a question that i haven't been able to find. As far as windows live, i see that it allows you to store up to 128 mb of map data for cache. I just downloaded the google maps application, and i dont see anything as far as cache settings in the program. Now here are the questions
1) is there any place where i can just straight download the maps/data for windows live so i dont have to worry about not picking up a map if i ever loose reception. is there anyway to exceed the 128 mb of storage on my
2) as far as google maps, does it even store a cache at all? i couldn't seem to find any type of data saved folder associated w/ google. If there is a folder, same question as "1" above, is there anyway to download some of the maps to the phone.
not too sure about downloading maps prior to travelling but, google maps does have cache on it so i guess if youve been there before and not reset google maps, its not gonna need a data connection
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Maps with no data connection.....is this what you mean??........tomtom 6 I bought a map ......no data connection is needed......maps are about 50 USD... keeps track of every place I've been to. very detailed
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mike
mike19722 said:
Maps with no data connection.....is this what you mean??........tomtom 6 I bought a map ......no data connection is needed......maps are about 50 USD... keeps track of every place I've been to. very detailed
peace
mike
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the question is whether you can do it w/ google or windows live...tom tom is entirely storage based, so you'll never need an internet connection unless u want traffic. i'm very aware of that, but the quesiton is whether you can do something similar w/ google or wls which are internet based
Ummm, isn't there a setting in them which sets the cache amount? I could've sweared I've seen cache amoun in Live.. that should allow u to have cached maps of your visited areas.
I dont know how this would be possible because doesn't Windows live and Google Maps check for an internet connection immediately open starting...before a map is even loaded? Also, with all of the phone numbers, restaraunt reviews, and addresses...I'd imagine this would make one hefty sized cache.
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I dont know how this would be possible because doesn't Windows live and Google Maps check for an internet connection immediately open starting...before a map is even loaded?
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Not really. it will show you the last place or frame that you browsed.
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I dont know how this would be possible because doesn't Windows live and Google Maps check for an internet connection immediately open starting...before a map is even loaded? Also, with all of the phone numbers, restaraunt reviews, and addresses...I'd imagine this would make one hefty sized cache.
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Really wouldn't care too much as far as size goes. I mean, i have a little over 5 gigs free on my microsd right now...plus i would only be looking to get riverside, orange, los angeles and san bernardino counties in southern california. Don't really have the need for a full US map or anything.
You may want to take a look at the GPS program Smart2Go. This software allows you to predownload maps of any area so as to save you data charges. The best part is that in general the software and maps are free! The only time you have to pay is if you want to using the routing feature and then it seems to be pay-per-use. Otherwise if you just want to see where you are and what POIs are around you then this program is pretty cool. It also allows you to view the street map in 2D or 3D perspective.
You can find it at: http://www.smart2go.com/en/
I have searched and found nothing but bogles 411 app and smart411 and no one has the files anymore there are very very old apps.
were can i find a 411 app for my at&t tilt?
please dont flame me i did search and couldnot find a app for 411.
1800 goog 411 or something like that.
i have googled everything i can think of and no luck. what do you mean 1800??
I'd really be interested in this as well.
He's talking about Googles free 411 service
http://www.google.com/goog411/
Use google maps, problem solved
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Use google maps, problem solved
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It would be nice to not have to use data--just an application that doesn't require internet. However, google's 411 is pretty amazing.
Ok then get a gps app, like tomtom Kaboom you have poi's and the ability to update them
without needing to data connection, ok you may need to sync
but thats about all i can think of right now.
Yes I too wish my phone had every phone number, address, and breif explaination of every place on earth. I'm having a hard time finding a micro sd card that will hold that info.
Find a suitable program.....and then say that.
When I did not have a data plan, I also used 1800goog411. Once I got data, I used Google Maps for WM. I am a Google whore.
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When I did not have a data plan, I also used 1800goog411. Once I got data, I used Google Maps for WM. I am a Google whore.
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Personally I like LiveSearch
I would like a app like berry411. this is what im looking for. but not for blackberry but for pocket pc.
Live Search works great.
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I would like a app like berry411. this is what im looking for. but not for blackberry but for pocket pc.
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I'm also looking for a app like berry411 for my touch dual neon. berry 411 is the best i used sofar.
i'm waiting for "where" to be compatible since i find live searh to be too much of memory hog for what it does, "bad microsoft, bad dog"
Livesearch works best for me but that is data...you can always use google text service just text to 466453 and they will text you back with what you need
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Livesearch works best for me but that is data...you can always use google text service just text to 466453 and they will text you back with what you need
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Praise the Good Lord Almighty Thank YOU!! no data plan + unlimited texting + google text search service = heaven? well as close to...well search heaven for people without data plans and with unlimited texting can get.
I use live search as all I have to do is start it with voice command by saying "Live Search" and tap the left softkey and say something like: "Liquor Stores in Orlando, FL" and it brings up the list of the all the liquor stores in the area. (It obviously works with other places too)
You seriously think there's an application that will be able to have every phone number for every business in America without having some sort of data connection? Here's what you should, Go get a heavy duty hole puncher, and when I say heavy duty, I mean like this mofo can put a hole through your head. Then grab a phone book and punch a hole through it. Go get a chain and chain it around a belt loop. Then you won't have to bother with your phone ever. Now thats convenience.
hello mates,
anybody know if is possible (and how) to use googleMaps or googleNavigator in OFFLINE mode without internet connection?
Is possible (and how) pre-download full-area-maps or personal routes?
thanks in advance.
(my config is : nexusOne with unlocked bootloader + root permissions ON + cyanogen 5.0.7.1)
Probably.. NO
This is possible. You can use Mobile Atlas Creator :http://mobac.dnsalias.org/
and one of the supported map programs. Personally I use Maverick for this. You can choose from a wide array of different maps, including Google's. It willl only work on normal maps though, you can't do this with the turn by turn navigation that Google provides.
nothing "standard" to be used simply with GMaps or GNavigator?
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nothing "standard" to be used simply with GMaps or GNavigator?
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I'm afraid not, you do get exactly the same maps though. There is a reason though Google doesn't support this; even a small country would take several GBs worth of data if you included the nearest zoom levels. You could easily fill up a 32GB microSD card, so I guess that's why it's not included as standard.
ok.... understood.... let me cry....
Yes and no. any route you set up to navigate will cache all street information, but not for other reason
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Yeah, data is only need to get the route, Navigation will still work after that without data as long as you stay within the Nav's route.
Trying to decide whether to move from my Fuze to an Aria and there are some loose ends I want to tie up.
Is there a way to put cities not found on the Weather app on it?
Thanks, in advance.
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Trying to decide whether to move from my Fuze to an Aria and there are some loose ends I want to tie up.
Is there a way to put cities not found on the Weather app on it?
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There doesn't appear to be; at least not without some form of configuration file hacking (and even then, I'm only guessing it's possible).
When you setup the phone, it figures out where you are, based either on GPS or WiFi. The GPS option is more exact (and I'm guessing the location moves as you move), but it also consumes more battery.
The WiFi option determines where you are, based on the location/ISP of the most recent WiFi network that you accessed. When I set it up for the first time this morning at my home in South Berwick, ME, it came up with Rollinsford, NH (a bordering town) as my location.
So you essential get one "custom" weather city that's tied to your location, and a number of preset weather cities that you can choose from to flesh out the Weather app.
The locator is "exact enough" for my tastes. YMMV.
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Ok, so I was really excited when Google discussed at I/O the ability to save map data for certain areas to be able to access it with our Nexus7's without a data connection. Obviously on a tablet with no 3G/4G/LTE/etc. connectivity, this is a requirement to be able to use it as a GPS device.
When I got mine, I saved my entire home region. It seems to cap out around 85MB in size, so you can't just save the entire country, which is fine. I also noticed that the amount of space required seems to be tied to the size of the map you make, and has nothing to do with the amount of streets, cities, etc. (aka data) for that location (ie: New York City takes up the same amount of space as Nowheresville, MT). This was a little confusing, but OK.
Anyway, here is my issue. The other day, I took my Nexus7 for a road trip, and tried to use the Navigation app. It was able to show me where I was in real time, and give somewhat-detailed street information which was nice. However, it doesn't actually know how to GET anywhere. In other words, if you try to give it a destination, it fails, requiring Internet access. I tried addresses, cities, business names (who are actually on the map) as well as just clicking somewhere and asking it to provide a route. Nothing.
So I ask this: what good is offline map storage if you can't actually DO anything with it?
Don't get me wrong, I understand that this is a new feature and might not be fully developed. But based on the Google I/O presentation, they made it out to be much more functional than it is. Something along the lines of "Going to a different city? Just preload your Nexus7 with the map for the area and you're good to go!". Sure, if all you want is a static map and want to try and figure out directions yourself, I guess that will work. But it certainly doesn't provide anywhere near the functionality required for an offline GPS device.
Unless of course I'm missing something - but I doubt it.
I agree and I don't think you're missing something. For the size of the data it downloads for a given area, I believe it has all the address so I why can't one do a search of somewhere?
Might have something to do with apple taking aim at local search functions with their lawsuits? Finding that information would probably require accessing the function in question.
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Might have something to do with apple taking aim at local search functions with their lawsuits? Finding that information would probably require accessing the function in question.
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Possibly, but I doubt it. AFAIK, the "local search" issue was with Samsung allowing users to run a search query which would also perform the search on local apps, files, etc. It had nothing to do with map searching, which would fall under a completely different scope. And the app supports it, but just seems to require Internet to make it work.
Also, while Samsung seemingly took it out of one/some of their devices with an OTA update, they later said this was an accident, and have pushed a fix out to put it back.
I given up with Offline Maps, really it just the same as having a paper map that only covers a limited area, instead I've been using NavFree, does navigation, address search, points of interest all without a data connection.
The Apple/Samsung lawsuit is 100% unrelated to offline search in maps. Google it, do some reading, and you'll see what I mean. I have GPS Copilot installed for any offline needs I may have.
Yeah dude google maps offline is a joke. You'll need to
1) start your destination somewhere you are connected to wifi
2) wait for google maps offline to not suck so bad
3) use a different app
Or just root your phone and tether...that's what I've been doing for years.
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Or just root your phone and tether...that's what I've been doing for years.
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That doesn't solve the problem, it's simply a work around.
Sure, if you have wifi or tethering you can get online and get live maps/route data. But that doesn't negate the fact that Google Maps Offline is seriously flawed. It should work without needing to be online, otherwise what's the point of saving offline map data in the first place.
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That doesn't solve the problem, it's simply a work around.
Sure, if you have wifi or tethering you can get online and get live maps/route data. But that doesn't negate the fact that Google Maps Offline is seriously flawed. It should work without needing to be online, otherwise what's the point of saving offline map data in the first place.
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It's much better than not having the map at all. If you have a GPS (like the Nexus 7 does), you still see yourself on the map where you are. The only thing missing is the blue line to your destination. It's limited, sure, but it's a lot better than not having a map at all to see your GPS location on.
+1 for NavFree though. If you need navigation (like in cities you aren't familiar with), this is a lifesaver, even if it eats battery rapidly and is very slow (at least on my Galaxy S).
I'm sure Google can/will release offline navigation in time (possibly along with entire country map downloads), but probably not until Apple pushes them to by releasing their own offline navigation.
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I given up with Offline Maps, really it just the same as having a paper map that only covers a limited area, instead I've been using NavFree, does navigation, address search, points of interest all without a data connection.
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I used the offline maps with directions when i started out on a data connection and then immediately turned it off. I started the n7 navigation with it tethered to my phone, once navigation has established its route, I disconnect my data and the directions continue to work.
This worked for me. It may not work for you, I do apologize if I waste your time.
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I use offline maps quite a bit.
Navigation is usually useless for most of the back country roads I'm on. Having a map and GPS showing me where I am in relation to where I need to be (pre-set waypoints) is awesome and is better than nothing.
Another app I use often is Maverick with pre-cached satellite maps. I'd dump Maverick if Google Maps had offline satellite and topo maps.
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I given up with Offline Maps, really it just the same as having a paper map that only covers a limited area, instead I've been using NavFree, does navigation, address search, points of interest all without a data connection.
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Thank you for showing me this app! That's perfect, and just what I'm looking for. Looks like it will work amazingly!
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I wish apps could use the cached data from Maps, but so far each app I've tried appears to download it and cache it directly. No idea if it's even possible to to, but it'd be nice if all apps could access the cache and use it.
As for the OP, this has been discussed since Maps first released.... It does not have the engine or routing data to do offline navigation. Maybe it will in the future, but it does not today.
try Co-pilot GPS from the market. It's free, and it downloads maps and stores them on the phone. If you have any svox classic voices purchased you will get the more advanced street names as part of the turn by turn verbal directions. I haven't tried this version yet, but it looks great and for free you have nothing to lose.
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Or just root your phone and tether...that's what I've been doing for years.
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Tether to what? I already pay $70 a month for internet at home I am sure as hell not gonna pay for more data
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IMO, for a FREE navigation app, I think you get a little more than you paid for...
The Turn-by-Turn directions require a data connection initially. But once it has downloaded the directions, you can use it offline and still get the voice directions - I tested it out on Saturday. You want to leave it connected a few minutes so it can cache all the map tiles along the route. If you don't let it finish caching the route, there will be places where you can see the route and get voice nagivation, but the streets won't show up.
If you deviate from the route, however, you will lose any navigation until you get back on the suggested route. You can see your route on the map, but there won't be any streets showing up at your location - even if you have chached the entire area in maps. If you zoom out you can see the suggested route. The voice nagivation will try to get you to turn around and go back since it can't recalculate the route. It needs more than just a map to calculate the route. It doesn't read a map the way you or I would to get directions...:silly:
I had maps and navigation running at the same time, and when I left the suggested route I switched over to maps (leaving navigation running in the background) and could see the streets I was on. A bit crude but it worked...
Once in range of the suggested route, the voice navigation will pick back up again and continue from there, and the streets will show up again.
I really hope Google eventually allows client side navigation, instead of server side requiring a data plan or wifi.
I've used Google Navigation on my tablet by calculating a route prior to disconnect from wifi, and their Navigation is hands down the best available for Android.
I've tried other Navigation apps, and they're super slow compared to Google, especially when it comes to re-routing or telling when you turned. Google almost re-routes you instantly when you go off route, other apps sometimes take a full minute before they set another route. Plus, Goole's street naming is fantastic for audible directions.
Offline maps is something, but off line route planning will be the ultimate offering.
I don't see how this could be too difficult to enable. Sure, maybe there are patent issues to work out (possible, but unlikely). But this functionality is already present in cheap GPS devices. The maps themselves take up a lot of space (a couple gigs on average for the entire US on a dedicated GPS unit), but if we download an 85MB region map, all the streets/addresses should already be built in. So it comes down to getting the routing engine to work offline. I'm not sure how big or complex this is, but IMHO it should be a simple addition.
And yes, it's "free" so we are getting what we pay for, but still.
As I mentioned earlier, my biggest disappointment was that Google made it out to be a fully comprehensive update to Google Maps, when it really isn't.
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I don't see how this could be too difficult to enable. Sure, maybe there are patent issues to work out (possible, but unlikely). But this functionality is already present in cheap GPS devices. The maps themselves take up a lot of space (a couple gigs on average for the entire US on a dedicated GPS unit), but if we download an 85MB region map, all the streets/addresses should already be built in. So it comes down to getting the routing engine to work offline. I'm not sure how big or complex this is, but IMHO it should be a simple addition.
And yes, it's "free" so we are getting what we pay for, but still.
As I mentioned earlier, my biggest disappointment was that Google made it out to be a fully comprehensive update to Google Maps, when it really isn't.
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I would love to know Google's reasoning behind server side routing only. I've searched around, but can't find a definitive answer. I always figured they stay clear from allowing off-line routing because you'll lose out on real-time traffic condition, weather, accident updates, etc.