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I lost my tilt a couple of days ago only to find it today after already calling it in to replace it under my warranty. My problem now is I already paid the 50 dollars to replace it. Should I send it back or give it to my brother who is begging for it. Can the company see that he will be using my "lost" phone even if he has his own sim card. Thanks for any advice.
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Can the company see that he will be using my "lost" phone even if he has his own sim card. Thanks for any advice.
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Yes.
Don't know where you're living, but in E.U they can block IMEI in the whole system. You also may involve in insurance fraud, too.
To my opinion, you should call the company to check if they want you to do, and don't forget to ask back the deduction fee if they tell you to send it back.
My phone's service was turned off and will be reactivated once the new phone arrives with my new sim card. But what my brother wants to do is put his sim card in my old phone so he can use it that way. but that seems pretty shady to me. I don't want to get in trouble with my phone company. Should i let him do it and just use the phone they send me or just return it? I already paid for the new one, so is it wrong?
if they have blocked the IMEI number (most do when a phone is reported stolen / lost) then your brother will not be able to use it.
also if they catch your brother using it you (and your brother) can be done for a few reasons:
Insurance Fraud
Using stolen goods (knowing they are stolen)
etc
so to be honest id just phone them and see if you return the phone if they can reverse the charge. alot less hassle than paying fines etc in the near future
You probably won't get away with it..
But if you could - by all means, screw the insurance company as hard as you possibly can.
Not that I advocate this behavior at all, but I have been in a similar situation and had no problem using a previously thought lost device with a different sim on what used to be Cingular.
Under what warranty did you replace it?
You agreed to ship the phone back to them if you did find it. There's instructions that come in the box. But whether or not you do it is up to you.
Two options -
A. Ring up the company and see which they want back, OR
B. Don't.
If you go with A. you might get your money back, but I doubt it. I also doubt they will let you keep both.
If you go with B. you will be comitting fraud and if caught you will be in legal trouble and I will have no sympathy for you. If your brother wants a tilt, he can go buy his own, do NOT give him the spare or you will be putting a LOT of trust in him. Do NOT use it as a phone or otherwise allow it to be used as a phone - it will get traced which will lead to legal problems.
Realistically, you should go with A. - it's the right thing to do, it's less risky and the handset should effectively be useless to you anyway.
I love how you title this as a moral issue, but your only question is if the company can find out about it. Doesn't sound like you have any moral concerns but rather "will I get caught" concerns.
ship it to me. it'lld surly be lost for ever!
Call them. There is such a thing as Karma, if you don't call them you very well might really lose it and they won't give one back.
Regarding moral issue - this is EASY PEASEY - trade places - you are them and they are you - should THEY return it to you? You reported it stolen/lost - they replaced it you no longer own the other one - you must send it back.
Another analogy - you call your insurance company and say you have filed a police report that your car was stolen and then find it in your garage - can you cash the check and get another car and drive two of them? Nope - you are going to get caught filing a false report to the police and do some serious jail time.
The IMEI number is unique to the phone - you are going to get caught if you play fast and loose - don't pretend that it is a moral issue when you only want to know if you can get caught.
I guess you could go to howardforums and sell it as Mike Jones?
I guess it really depends on who your service carrier is.
If its ATT/Cingular, I wouldn't return it. I'm almost 100% sure that they can track what phone you're using but not the IMEI number of that phone. The reason I say this is because I have a habit of switching or getting new phones every few months. I purchased the Tilt used from a HoFo member. I recently had problems with it and had to RMA it. They asked me for me IMEI number and I had a feeling it was past the year mark but they said that it looks like you've only had the phone since Sept so it would be covered under warranty. The thing is I got the phone from the HoFo member in Sept, but he said he had been using it for a few months prior to that.
But I could be wrong. You could always call ATT/Cingular and just be blunt about it and ask them if they can track your lost phone via IMEI because you have an idea of who might have it.
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I guess you could go to howardforums and sell it as Mike Jones?
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+1. I really shouldn't have found this so funny, but I did.
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I guess you could go to howardforums and sell it as Mike Jones?
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Yep, or send it to Jakeypoo then call the FBI with a confirmed 'handling stolen goods'
For all our European counterparts. In the E.U. it is very much illegal to use a "stolen" or "lost" phone. They also block IMEIs and CAN track them. For the life of me, all I've been able to find about whether the cell phones companies track or block IMEIs or phones is that we don't do it here the US. At&t and at&t's insurance companies have told me is "sorry, we can't track or block the phone from being used again." To me, the reason is obvious. If the phone is stolen, at&t gets a new customer and you have to buy a new phone.
You make your own decision and you make it at your own risk but search away and maybe you'll find the answer you're really looking for.
I doubt you'll spend the rest of your life in prison..... Hell maybe.... If you really feel bad about ripping off a mutli-billion dollar corporation that is already ripping you off. Huh.... Tough choice....
Ring the carrier, tell them to cancel warranty replacement as you have found the original and to refund you the $50 and reactivate the existing phone with either the old or new sim card. I believe under your statuatory rights (at least in the UK anyway) they would have to oblidge as you have the right to cancel a service (in this case the warranty replacement) within a reasonable amount of time.
Try it and save yourself $50 maybe....
This is no moral dilema at all. Just ask yourself "What Would Jesus Do?"
There's your answer.
Do the right thing. Call them and ask what you should do. That way there is no more guilt or fear.
Got 2 phones, 1 for me and one for my Girlfriend.
They arrived Friday.
Hers was stolen today from a local college.
I called T-MO and had them blacklist The IMEI
Is there any recourse I can take through Google?
I called them but it seemed they were only familiar with UPS as the theif.
I had text'd the phone telling the person I would pay a cash reward for the return or they could turn it in to Lost and found. But they turned the phone off half hour later.
Keep your eyes out for any too good to be true deals.
Any advice or direction is greatly appreciated.
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Amex didn't cover anything.
T-mobile claims They cant block it because it was purchased through Google.
Google says they cant do anything after the phone was "Activated" although All we did was put in a sim and turn it on.
So basically a big F You from google
I WILL NEVER BUY A GOOGLE PRODUCT EVER AGAIN!
Basically if you bought a phone from google as soon as you open the box Anyone can steal it free and clear.
There is No recourse possible. You cant block the IMEI. Nexus Devices are Gold Mines for theifs. Steal it Factory reset it and you got yourself a free device.
I AM SHOCKED that Google is So Stupid.
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Update.
I dont blame anyone for the phone being stolen. BUT ALL NEXUS OWNERS BEWARE!!!!
If your phone is stolen Google doesnt give a ****. and neither does your carrier.
Its gone and it wont be turned into lost and found because its a perfectly functioning free device for anyone to find or steal with NO RECOURSE. that can be TAKEN
you are God Dam **** Out of luck.
Deal with it thats what you get for going with GOOGLE. See page 8 for details And I do have the emails from google still.
DAMN!
dinc4g said:
Got 2 phones, 1 for me and one for my Girlfriend.
They arrived Friday.
Hers was stolen today from a local college.
I called T-MO and had them blacklist The IMEI
Is there any recourse I can take through Google?
I called them but it seemed they were only familiar with UPS as the theif.
I had text'd the phone telling the person I would pay a cash reward for the return or they could turn it in to Lost and found. But they turned the phone off half hour later.
Keep your eyes out for any too good to be true deals.
Any advice or direction is greatly appreciated.
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That SUCKS. Google can do nothing for you, my best advice would be to report it stolen to your local authorities. Make sure to give them the serial number and stuff so they can verify that it's yours if they find it.
dinc4g said:
Got 2 phones, 1 for me and one for my Girlfriend.
They arrived Friday.
Hers was stolen today from a local college.
I called T-MO and had them blacklist The IMEI
Is there any recourse I can take through Google?
I called them but it seemed they were only familiar with UPS as the theif.
I had text'd the phone telling the person I would pay a cash reward for the return or they could turn it in to Lost and found. But they turned the phone off half hour later.
Keep your eyes out for any too good to be true deals.
Any advice or direction is greatly appreciated.
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Check with the credit card company that you used to pay for the phone, I think they have some kind of purchase protection within 60 or 90 days.
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Check with the credit card company that you used to pay for the phone, I think they have some kind of purchase protection within 60 or 90 days.
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Opps I replied to the wrong person. Meant to reply to OP.
I don't know anything about it, but I saw a feature called android device manager. Both my nexus 5 and my old phone show up on this site:
https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager
dinc4g said:
Got 2 phones, 1 for me and one for my Girlfriend.
They arrived Friday.
Hers was stolen today from a local college.
I called T-MO and had them blacklist The IMEI
Is there any recourse I can take through Google?
I called them but it seemed they were only familiar with UPS as the theif.
I had text'd the phone telling the person I would pay a cash reward for the return or they could turn it in to Lost and found. But they turned the phone off half hour later.
Keep your eyes out for any too good to be true deals.
Any advice or direction is greatly appreciated.
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Did you try using the Android Device Manager to locate it before contacting the thief? Or was she not able to even open the box to register it?
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I don't know anything about it, but I saw a feature called android device manager. Both my nexus 5 and my old phone show up on this site:
https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager
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Did you try using the Android Device Manager to locate it before contacting the thief? Or was she not able to even open the box to register it?
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He would have had activated that feature from the phone in order for it to work...
That SUCKS. Google can do nothing for you, my best advice would be to report it stolen to your local authorities. Make sure to give them the serial number and stuff so they can verify that it's yours if they find it.
Thanks Police report filed!
Check with the credit card company that you used to pay for the phone, I think they have some kind of purchase protection within 60 or 90 days
Thanks Ill Call AMEX Tonight and see what kind of protection they have. I always use amex because they are pretty good about purchase.
Did you try using the Android Device Manager to locate it before contacting the thief? Or was she not able to even open the box to register it?
I didnt but thank you so much for the insight. Im going to try and track the device now.
Couldn't he call Google to brick the phone ?
I had mine stolen by UPS (as*holes sent me an empty box) and they bricked the phone .
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Couldn't he call Google to brick the phone ?
I had mine stolen by UPS (as*holes sent me an empty box) and they bricked the phone .
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Actually I called google first, They directed me to my carrier. All google will do is Blacklist The IMEI if its stolen in transit. I asked and pleaded with the google support guy who was very sympathetic but he said there was nothing they could do.
I had my girlfriend "Ring" the phone from google devices. hoping the guy is in class and it makes a big scene.
She also then "Locked" the phone via Google devices.
I really appriciate all the input guys. I actually dont feel so screwed over even though it still sucks. Having NO recourse is like the absolute worst!
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Actually I called google first, They directed me to my carrier. All google will do is Blacklist The IMEI if its stolen in transit. I asked and pleaded with the google support guy who was very sympathetic but he said there was nothing they could do.
I had my girlfriend "Ring" the phone from google devices. hoping the guy is in class and it makes a big scene.
She also then "Locked" the phone via Google devices.
I really appriciate all the input guys. I actually dont feel so screwed over even though it still sucks. Having NO recourse is like the absolute worst!
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A few things:
1) You should always have a lock on the phone (ALWAYS). It's simple to put a password or pattern unlock on the phone and it pretty much completely prevents someone from using the phone. It's still possible to reset the phone, but it's much more difficult for the average thief (too much so to make it worth it).
2) Activate Android Device Manager immediately after turning on any Android phone for the first time. It'll let you track the phone, ring it loudly if you need to, lock it remotely (and permanently), and wipe it, if necessary. It's the best built-in protection possible, and it works really well.
You shipped a phone at college dorm?
Hindsight my friend. This is the first phone I or her have had stolen.
I already activated it on everyone I knows device. And its only been 14 hours :good:
Phone was out of the box, Literally the first day she left the house with it is when it was stolen.
Must have been someone who knew the phone was there
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk 4
If u enabled it you can track the location of the phone as long as it is logged into your gmail account.
https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager
Just realized this was already mentioned above.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
To the OP, it's an awesome thing that you used AmEx for the purchase as they have incredible benefits. Their purchase protection is second to none (Up to $1000 per incident/$50,000 per year). It's also good you've filed a police report, since you'll need the report number.
1) Call 1-800-322-1277. That's AmEx's purchase protection department.
2) File a stolen item report with them. They'll ask for the supporting documentation or info from the police report.
3) Once they've done their stuff (usually a couple business days) you'll have the funds credited back to your card.
I always use my AmEx for important/expensive purchases just because of this benefit.
poor google
dinc4g said:
Got 2 phones, 1 for me and one for my Girlfriend.
They arrived Friday.
Hers was stolen today from a local college.
I called T-MO and had them blacklist The IMEI
Is there any recourse I can take through Google?
I called them but it seemed they were only familiar with UPS as the theif.
I had text'd the phone telling the person I would pay a cash reward for the return or they could turn it in to Lost and found. But they turned the phone off half hour later.
Keep your eyes out for any too good to be true deals.
Any advice or direction is greatly appreciated.
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Yes. Sounds like googles at fault here for her phone being stolen after delivery.
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Yes. Sounds like googles at fault here for her phone being stolen after delivery.
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Nobody said google was at fault.
So here is a horrible update...
I called google initially to report it stolen so they could blacklist the IMEI, Google said they couldnt help so I should call the carrier. I called Tmobile and they claimed they were blacklisting it. a day and a half later nothing is done.
I call Tmobile again and this time they claim they cant do anything since the phone wasnt purchased from them.
So Im pretty upset at this point I try calling LG and they cant help me.
So I call google back Yesterday Friday the 15'th and the CSR tells me there is nothing they can do.
At this point Im Enraged. How can they let this fall through the cracks?
If it was an Iphone it wouldve been HANDLED that day.
But I get the bounce around and now its Saturday and the phone still isnt blacklisted.
Basically googles Inability to Do anything has allowed the theif to either sell it or trade it in for money. basically ensuring I never get the device back.
To make matters worse My Amex is a Bank of america AMEX and people are saying it doesnt have purchase protection only warranty extension.
So at this point I cant get anyone at google to help me. Ive called 6 times, Been referred to 2 specialists and basically told that there is nothing that can be done. Google is telling me they cant black list phones and so I should just deal with it.
I find it unacceptable and I am looking for a way to voice my disdain for google customer service.
They really botched the situation.
Considering.
I called google within 1 hour of the theft and they told me to call my carrier to black list the phone.
This could have been handled on the spot.
If anyone has any information that could help. Even google corporate contact information it would be nice.
I will never buy another product from google after all this BS.
The Google needs to stop screwing the customer.
If we buy a phone from them and the carrier has no authority to blacklist it then Who will ?
Basically you can steal anyone's nexus device and not ever worry about a blacklisted IMEI??????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341520&page=2
dinc4g said:
The Google needs to stop screwing the customer.
If we buy a phone from them and the carrier has no authority to blacklist it then Who will ?
Basically you can steal anyone's nexus device and not ever worry about a blacklisted IMEI??????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341520&page=2
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Sorry for your issue, but Google has no play whatsoever to 'blacklist' an IMEI. Carriers do that. If TMO refuses, there is nothing else to do/say about it. You need to focus on getting your money back.
I am going to meet up with someone later today to buy ATT NOTE 3
how do i make sure its not a fake /clone
What do i check for..
Ive seen some phones that are clearly clones but i know there is others that are very almost exact copy but are not original
i dont want to have a very expensive mp3 player...
I am going to ask the seller to meet me at a ATT store: if he doesnt want to meet there then i know something is wrong..
I already checked the IMEI with ATT and they said phone is good and can connect service with them.
Also im obviously going to check to make sure the phone im buying comes with the exact IMEI on the back
but is there a way to check software wise like in settings, phone info??
all help is appreciated...
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Ma$etas said:
I am going to meet up with someone later today to buy ATT NOTE 3
how do i make sure its not a fake /clone
What do i check for..
Ive seen some phones that are clearly clones but i know there is others that are very almost exact copy but are not original
i dont want to have a very expensive mp3 player...
I am going to ask the seller to meet me at a ATT store: if he doesnt want to meet there then i know something is wrong..
I already checked the IMEI with ATT and they said phone is good and can connect service with them.
Also im obviously going to check to make sure the phone im buying comes with the exact IMEI on the back
but is there a way to check software wise like in settings, phone info??
all help is appreciated...
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Just go into settings and about phone and verify the baseband version. A real AT&T Note 3 will have either MI9 or MJ5. To my knowledge none of the clones or fakes have official versions.
From what I know go into camera mod and see if you can zoom in or out with the volume button.
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thanks to both of you that replied..
I met up with the person at a local att store..
I got there before the seller got there and ask one of the store reps if they could help me out with a deal i was about to do and help make sure that the phone was paid off not currently connected to any account and if he could prevent it from being blacklisted later...
When the seller got there , the store rep checked the imei made sure it was clean then verified with the person when he bought it..
and with the sellers permission went into the sellers account and found the NOTE 3 and placed a Comment/note on it saying HE was selling the phone to someone else
to prevent him from later calling and reporting it stolen.... Store rep was truly helpful and went out of his way to make sure i didnt have any issues later...
I made sure phone imei matched the box imei , made sure phone was good, not damaged etc...
all in all was a good deal.. $400 for it but selling my note 2 for $300
Glad everything went well. Most sellers would never take that kind of time to sell something. Hope you enjoy your new note 3.
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thanks Xfaega..
im going to connect it to Go phone Service which is the same service as ATT and includes the LTE service...
I just hope it does work everywhere i constantly travel..
It will be my first time using att service.. i have always had Sprint, TMobile , Verizon..
So I got a note 3 almost 3 weeks ago ... but yesterday the network just stop working ... I call att and they said it's a reporter stolen phone ... is there a way to make it work again whit att ... first able how clean imei ???
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574176
Read thru that thread, because the OP had the same problem. He reported it to the police. Long story short, the police got the seller to call AT&T to remove the phone from the blacklist.
Only the original owner can remove it from the blacklist no matter what you do, you yourself cannot remove it. So as the other guy said, contact the police if you have any info on who you bought it from then make a case against them. If they are the original owner then the police can make them give you your money back or remove it from the blacklist. If they are not the original then you my friend have an expensive paper weight.
^^^-This -^^^ And, that is it...
I am closing this thread as the only answers have been given, and there is ALWAYS the temptation for trolling and/or illegal maneuvers or fraud discussion to occur when these threads languish.
Greetings good people of the xda-developers forum!
After a little reading around I figure this is the most apropriate forum to post this thread in, correct me if I'm wrong.
Earlier this year I lost my phone in a cab after a night out, the driver decided to keep my phone instead of turning it in (usually if you leave something in a taxi in this region, you'll have it back with a little humiliation from the taxi-central the day after, not this time though).
A couple months after loosing it, I got a "emergency message" from my lost phone, and it went on and off for a little while untill yesterday when it apparently was taken into use! I have an "invisible" tracking app installed that will survive factory resets and gives me the opportunity to take pictures, record sound and some more.
Anyway, the phone has moved a couple countries away since it was initially lost, so I've lost hope of reclaiming it. My plan now is to give an honest shot at making my phone the most annoying device the new owner has ever had!
I come to this forum now, looking for inspiration/ideas and warning where warnings are due!
Is there anything I really shouldn't do, that could come back and bite me?
What would you do if you were in my situation?
Any good ideas of how to bother this guy?
So far I've only really come up with the idea of wiping his data from time to time..
I appreciate any ideas or warnings!
Thanks!
vengeful said:
Greetings good people of the xda-developers forum!
After a little reading around I figure this is the most apropriate forum to post this thread in, correct me if I'm wrong.
Earlier this year I lost my phone in a cab after a night out, the driver decided to keep my phone instead of turning it in (usually if you leave something in a taxi in this region, you'll have it back with a little humiliation from the taxi-central the day after, not this time though).
A couple months after loosing it, I got a "emergency message" from my lost phone, and it went on and off for a little while untill yesterday when it apparently was taken into use! I have an "invisible" tracking app installed that will survive factory resets and gives me the opportunity to take pictures, record sound and some more.
Anyway, the phone has moved a couple countries away since it was initially lost, so I've lost hope of reclaiming it. My plan now is to give an honest shot at making my phone the most annoying device the new owner has ever had!
I come to this forum now, looking for inspiration/ideas and warning where warnings are due!
Is there anything I really shouldn't do, that could come back and bite me?
What would you do if you were in my situation?
Any good ideas of how to bother this guy?
So far I've only really come up with the idea of wiping his data from time to time..
I appreciate any ideas or warnings!
Thanks!
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it will not back bite you if have retail invoice of that phone do whatever you want
Isn't it possible, even with sim card phones, to call your carrier, report it stolen, and have it basically bricked so Noone can use it again. I know they can with like sprint and Verizon phones that don't take sim cards. But I've heard of it happening with sim devices too. I would just try calling your carrier.
If that don't work. I'd leave it alone. The person who has your phone now probably isn't the person who took it. Which is why it was sold out of the country. And that person most likely doesn't deserve all that crap
Contemplating getting the S5....
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Isn't it possible, even with sim card phones, to call your carrier, report it stolen, and have it basically bricked so Noone can use it again. I know they can with like sprint and Verizon phones that don't take sim cards. But I've heard of it happening with sim devices too. I would just try calling your carrier.
If that don't work. I'd leave it alone. The person who has your phone now probably isn't the person who took it. Which is why it was sold out of the country. And that person most likely doesn't deserve all that crap
Contemplating getting the S5....
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That's the nasty part of stealing a phone. The Carrier will lock the "ESN" (Electronic Serial Number) so all they need to do is flash it over to another carrier... I.E. if you have a GSN type phone from say AT&T you can flash the software over to T-Mobile who doesn't give a flying flip about a stolen ESN (As a example) I personally have T-Mobile... They did try to make a law making req the manufacture to add a "Kill Switch" allowing the consumer to render the phone useless how ever that did not pass... SO Basically some one steals your phone that's it nothing you can do but buy another phone or hack into it like the OP..
TO OP: I'd go Impractical Jokers Style. Ease drop on him and play really dirty sounds (Porn sounds... moans/grunts etc) then Fry the phone... **** that guy he had to know it was stolen and if he didn't he's a fool... Check your ESN's People!
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it will not back bite you if have retail invoice of that phone do whatever you want
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For the record, I do have the invoice.
SaintCity86 said:
Isn't it possible, even with sim card phones, to call your carrier, report it stolen, and have it basically bricked so Noone can use it again. I know they can with like sprint and Verizon phones that don't take sim cards. But I've heard of it happening with sim devices too. I would just try calling your carrier.
If that don't work. I'd leave it alone. The person who has your phone now probably isn't the person who took it. Which is why it was sold out of the country. And that person most likely doesn't deserve all that crap
Contemplating getting the S5....
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It is indeed possible, but not flawless. There is supposed to be some automation to it in the country the phone was initially lost, but either this automation failed or it's sucess is the reason it left that country. Problem is though, the idea is that they block the IMEI from the networks, but some countries are not part of this agreement/system.
I think the guy who is currently in posession of the phone knows perfectly well how it was acquired. Judging from pictures taken through the phone, the taxi-driver and the current holder of the phone may very well be related. Also, the phone had it's language changed to Arabic by the taxi-driver, this has not been changed by the new user (not that it prooves anything). There is also the fact that the SIM inserted in the phone in the country I lost it in, followed the phone over to the current country, where it was replaced by what appears to be a prepaid SIM. I don't think this phone was up for sale anywhere, I think the taxidriver sold or gave it away to some family member coming to visit.
As mentioned, I have no hope of having it returned. I'm not gonna push this too far, but I do feel like putting a dent in his joy over his shadily acquired device.
Drooling a little over the HTC One M8
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That's the nasty part of stealing a phone. The Carrier will lock the "ESN" (Electronic Serial Number) so all they need to do is flash it over to another carrier... I.E. if you have a GSN type phone from say AT&T you can flash the software over to T-Mobile who doesn't give a flying flip about a stolen ESN (As a example) I personally have T-Mobile... They did try to make a law making req the manufacture to add a "Kill Switch" allowing the consumer to render the phone useless how ever that did not pass... SO Basically some one steals your phone that's it nothing you can do but buy another phone or hack into it like the OP..
TO OP: I'd go Impractical Jokers Style. Ease drop on him and play really dirty sounds (Porn sounds... moans/grunts etc) then Fry the phone... **** that guy he had to know it was stolen and if he didn't he's a fool... Check your ESN's People!
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As far as I've understood, in the European countries that are part of this agreement any locked IMEI number will be locked out of all mobile networks, this can only be worked around by changing the IMEI number or shipping the phone off to some country that is not part of this agreement. In the country my phone was lost the police send a notification to the networks when they recieve a lost/stolen report. Not sure if it went through in my case.
My list of options are limited to what my tracking software allows me to do, sadly (or happily, depending how you look at it) my programming skills are not by far sufficient for me to go beyond what the software offers, allthough I reckon someone with the right knowledge could use the tracking software as a backdoor into the device?
Wow. I'll be honest, I never thought them tracking apps would ever give you anything useful, but if your able to basically see every picture they take, take pictures yourself...I think that's crazy... wipe the phone....
What exactly can you do with yours? Read texts sent and received on the phone? Does it gps track its location on demand? Even if the gps is disabled in the device itself?
You said the one you have stays on the device even after restores and factory resets? What's the name of the app?
As for the locked esns.... If an American cell company like tmo locks one up, is that gonna stick over any of the carriers in the US? Basically, all 4 of them?
Cuz I know before, as long as you had a sim card, it didn't matter, you just swapped it for a new one.
Contemplating getting the S5....
Wish they did that here... though the explanation was for the poster above me... Id use what ever i could to screw with him... what ever happens good luck messing with the dirt bag
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I would also like to know this app
Go the South Park route. Some cartoon parodies of Mohammed should be effective. Then again, if they are in a Muslim country they could get in a lot of trouble if they have certain content on their device.
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yea... Mocking Mohammad not general a good idea... it will get you killed. I wouldn't want that on any one's conscience
Tangodown78 said:
yea... Mocking Mohammad not general a good idea... it will get you killed. I wouldn't want that on any one's conscience
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No different than mocking L. Ron Hubbard or Jesus. All of them are con men and are fair game. Don't believe the hype.
I am very spiritual, believe in a higher power, but I will never bow down to some schmuck just because I am told to.
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c5satellite2 said:
No different than mocking L. Ron Hubbard or Jesus. All of them are con men and are fair game. Don't believe the hype.
I am very spiritual, believe in a higher power, but I will never bow down to some schmuck just because I am told to.
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Bro, dafuq, don't insult other members of xda. Calling religious icons schmucks will insult some people. THIS IS NO PLACE TO HAVE A RELIGIOUS WAR. So stfu and leave the thread back to it's topic. Thank you.
I'm using Cerberus. I had the same app installed without root access/without placing it in system/apps on another phone I lost a couple months earlier, in which case it gave me absolutely nothing. This one however, installed in system/apps with root access, appears to be "immortal".
I reckon they will have a comprehensive list of what you can do with the app on their homepage.
I don't know anything about how things are done in the US.
I'm not gonna do religious insults. I wan't to annoy him, not make him want my head on a stick.
Yesterday a sound recording convinced me he was in a crowded area, so I couldn't resist the urge to sound the alarm. Which is played at max volume. The picture taken of him when he touched the screen to stop it was not optimal, but it did have a feeling of desperation to it
App is still active today