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ROM Manager Won't Doesn't Work

I have an N1 that I unlocked and rooted and was running CM7 RC1 when I decided to try the stock Gingerbread. This switch went perfectly, but now I don't think I want to stay on the stock GB but I can't seem to get ROM Manager to boot into recovery to allow me to flash another ROM. Do I have to do something differently now? BTW, I do not have root on the 'new' GB.
Thanks.

Unless you flashed a pre-rooted version of Gingerbread, you will have lost root and your custom recovery...
If this is the case, you have two options:
1 - Flash a custom recovery through an unlocked bootloader.
2 - passimg back to an older version of Android and root again...
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tsprks said:
BTW, I do not have root on the 'new' GB.
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This is your problem. ROM Manager installs a custom recovery, but only when your phone is rooted. You need to re-root GB.

Can I ask them how people flash custom recoveries without having root? I see threads all over the place that say that you don't have to root your phone to run these custom ROM's.

tsprks said:
Can I ask them how people flash custom recoveries without having root? I see threads all over the place that say that you don't have to root your phone to run these custom ROM's.
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You have to root, but you don't have to unlock your bootloader.

You have to do one of the things:
1) Root.
2) Unlock the bootloader.
Rooting allows you to bypass security mechanisms from within the OS, and flash the custom recovery from there.
Unlocking the bootloader turns off the security mechanisms, and you can flash whatever you want directly from bootloader.
Both achieve the same thing, but in different ways.
Root privileges in OS are lost upon official upgrades.
Unlocked bootloader is never lost.
Unlocked bootloader allows for an easy way to gain root in the first place, regardless of the ROM.

How does an unlocked bootloader allow me to flash whatever ROM I want? ROM Manager won't run without root? Am I missing something? I've read the wiki's and threads about rooting an N1 and they all just seem to stop at unlocking the bootloader, well, my bootloader is unlocked but I can't get it to boot into CWM so that I can select another ROM. Is there another way to do this?

ROM Manager is only one, and not the most successful nor most powerful, way to flash ROMs or recovery. ROM Manager was made for non-understanding people to make the process look and feel easier. The most powerful way is directly from bootloader - which needs to be unlocked to allow it.
If you read all the threads, you'll see that unlocking the bootloader is just a first step - you can look carefully at "installing custom ROM" guide in Wiki. Or, for example, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636795
Read the Wiki, look for recovery installation instructions using unlocked bootloader, execute. I suggest Amon_Ra's.

Gaining Root access with Tool or APK or Exe

Hi all,
I Just need to gain root access to my HTC incredible s. Came across the following while googling,
Gingerbreak [apk] – It wont support Android 2.3.5 which is current version in my mobile.
http://www.unlockroot.com/ [Windows Application]
I just need to gain Root access alone to allow some application to access those, Yes, simply need root access. MY Question is
if I rooted my mobile,
1. Will I get Official OTA update ? [I’m currently in STOCK 2.3.5/Sense 3.0]
2. Will my device in S-ON.
Is there any tool or APK or exe which is good worthier to gain root access?
Appreciate your suggestions and guidance on the same.

Cyb0rgz said:
Hi all,
I Just need to gain root access to my HTC incredible s. Came across the following while googling,
Gingerbreak [apk] – It wont support Android 2.3.5 which is current version in my mobile.
http://www.unlockroot.com/ [Windows Application]
I just need to gain Root access alone to allow some application to access those, Yes, simply need root access. MY Question is
if I rooted my mobile,
1. Will I get Official OTA update ? [I’m currently in STOCK 2.3.5/Sense 3.0]
2. Will my device in S-ON.
Is there any tool or APK or exe which is good worthier to gain root access?
Appreciate your suggestions and guidance on the same.
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With stock 2.3.5/Sense 3.0, you have HBOOT version 2.0x which can be unlocked and allow you to flash a custom recovery. After you have flashed the custom recovery, you could then flash SuperSU or su-3.1.3.zip to gain root.
In this mode you would receive the ICS OTA notification and it would let you download it, but it will not install successfully until you remove the custom recovery and replace it with the stock recovery and then relock your bootloader.
The other option is to use the Downgrade Tool posted on this site to gain true S-OFF and then flash custom, rooted ROMs. There are plenty of custom ICS ROMs in the Development section, including mike1986's ARHD which was built from the official HTC ICS RUU.
I suggest you do your own research in this forum. All of the questions you have have already been answered and explained.

You need s off or an unlocked boot loader for permanent root
I think ginger break your either doesn't work, or if it works, root will be lost after a reboot
Best to follow one of the easy guides by our members like nonverbose s or fallensuisydals
Both are straight forward
Edit: dammit tpbklake you're too quick
Sent from my Nexus 7

tpbklake said:
With stock 2.3.5/Sense 3.0, you have HBOOT version 2.0x which can be unlocked and allow you to flash a custom recovery. After you have flashed the custom recovery, you could then flash SuperSU or su-3.1.3.zip to gain root.
In this mode you would receive the ICS OTA notification and it would let you download it, but it will not install successfully until you remove the custom recovery and replace it with the stock recovery and then relock your bootloader.
The other option is to use the Downgrade Tool posted on this site to gain true S-OFF and then flash custom, rooted ROMs. There are plenty of custom ICS ROMs in the Development section, including mike1986's ARHD which was built from the official HTC ICS RUU.
I suggest you do your own research in this forum. All of the questions you have have already been answered and explained.
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Thanks for the info.. one more question, is it possible to retain with stock boot loader even after gaining root access? if so, will i get official ICS OTA and can install the same?

Cyb0rgz said:
Thanks for the info.. one more question, is it possible to retain with stock boot loader even after gaining root access? if so, will i get official ICS OTA and can install the same?
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Is the question 'can I have root and receive OTA at the same time'?
No, when you s-off you change your bootloader to revolutionary version
When you HTCdev unlock you unlock your bootloader so its different
Short answer: no
You won't need the official OTA, theres custom roms based off it like ARHD and tpbklake's rooted stock rom which I tried

Custom ROM question on 11W51 W8.

I just got a W8 with a battery date of 11W51. So I can no safely unlock the bootloader without paying someone, something I do not want to do. I read the development forum and was about to root and install xRecovery. Now I would like to install a custom ROM. Am I able to do that without an unlocked bootloader?

Yes.
You may install a custom rom without unlocking bootloader.(only those one which require stock kernel).

dagger said:
Yes.
You may install a custom rom without unlocking bootloader.(only those one which require stock kernel).
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Is there anyway to be sure a custom ROM requires stock kernel if it doesn't say so on the title or the thread?

See here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1763389
Sent from my MANGO

@OP's second question
It is usually mentioned in the title. However if it's not, then you can read the thread to find out. The search feature helps you there.

Install Google Rom and unroot the phone

Hi Guys,
Is there an option to install Google Rom and then unroot the phone?
Thanks,
Gil.
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You don't need to be rooted to install the Google ROM, you need to have an unlocked bootloader.
./revone -l
Will lock the bootloader, but maybe only work on hboot version 1.44. If you S-Off first, then update the firmware, you should then be able to relock it with
fastboot oem lock
But you won't be able to use revone again to unlock or S-Off it, so you'd better be sure that's what you want to do.
So what are you trying to achieve?

Thank you Ben.
In my organization we have an application for mobile that checking if the device is rooted.
For me it's a bummer since I am loving to check the customs roms.
As a result I thought not to switch between roms but I still want to install Google stock Rom to see if I am receiving better battery life.
In addition I don't find anything useful in HTC sense.
I didn't understand why the process you describe is irreversible.
Thanks again,
Gil.
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Most custom ROMs are pre-rooted, but I'm sure you can unroot, or perhaps install the original Google Edition ROM, which is not rooted.

[Q] Root required for ROM installation

Hi
Sorry for the dumb question, I dont want to root my phone (the Barclays app, I know it can be worked around) but do want to play with ROMS. All the instructions I've read say to root the phone, but do I have to to be able to put new ROMs on. Thanks a lot in advance.

Yes you obviously need to be rooted to unlock your bootloader, to flash a recovery and to flash ROMs
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If you want to install Stock custom Roms like MagicRom you will need only root
but if you want to instal a Custom Rom like cyanogen-mod, miui you will need root and unlocked bootloader

Allex42HD said:
If you want to install Stock custom Roms like MagicRom you will need only root
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It's true only if the rom doesn't have a custom kernel and most roms do. If the kernel changes, you need to unlock the bootloader. Also, you can't flash a custom recovery without unlocked bootloader.