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What do you all think is the likelihood of us getting CyanogenMod 7 for the Droid 3? If you do think it's possible, how long do you think it may be? More than 8 weeks?
I know I'd love to have Cyanogen or a clone running on my D3, but there's lots of things that have to come first, like bootstrapping, and custom recovery before anyone can even begin baking anything. At least moto already has the source code up online, so that will save sometime. Give it some time, something will happen, but be polite and don't ask for ETA's.
I'm ready to get built in tethering. Someone needs to custom recovery quick!
Unless I'm missing some other kind of underground movement, it's not likely that we will ever see cyanogenmod support:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices
There is no Droid 2 support. No Droid Incredible 2 support. No Droid X support. No Droid X2 support... and so on. I'm thinking now that I was spoiled with my Droid1 when it comes to aftermarket and custom rom support.
there are CM7 ports for D2 and D2G. Give it time, it will happen. I for one ran several CM7 nightly builds, MIUI, and a few others on my D2.
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I know I'd love to have Cyanogen or a clone running on my D3, but there's lots of things that have to come first, like bootstrapping, and custom recovery before anyone can even begin baking anything. At least moto already has the source code up online, so that will save sometime. Give it some time, something will happen, but be polite and don't ask for ETA's.
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My apologies, I realize now that asking for ETAs is a bit annoying. I should have realized that when I noticed how annoying it was that every other response in the "Can this root Droid 3?" thread was "how close are we?"
Thanks for the knowledgeable response.
LaTropa64 said:
Unless I'm missing some other kind of underground movement, it's not likely that we will ever see cyanogenmod support:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices
There is no Droid 2 support. No Droid Incredible 2 support. No Droid X support. No Droid X2 support... and so on. I'm thinking now that I was spoiled with my Droid1 when it comes to aftermarket and custom rom support.
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That seriously needs to be updated. There are official CM builds for the Droid X, the Droid 2 and the Incredible 2 as well as quite a few other devices not listed on that page.
Look at their github products...
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_vendor_cyanogen/tree/gingerbread/products
the droid 2 is cyanogen_droid2.mk
the droid x is cyanogen_shadow.mk
the inc 2 is cyanogen_vivow.mk
Would absolutely love to see it happen. D3 is my favorite hardware so far (out of nearly a dozen devices I use for testing)...CM7 would simply make it the perfect device.
The Droid 3 will most certainly receive CM7 and MIUI; however, a recovery must first be released, and once 2nd init with gingerbread kernels is perfected it will have to be ported to the Droid 3.
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Seeing CM7 on the D3 certainly would be great, but considering the number of devices the team supports, I would expect it to be a late-comer to the party. Once we get clockwork, expect to see Woodyman and DC dropping the first ROM (since Woody already owns a D3), followed by Chevy (I hope) and Pete. I really believe we are going to end up with a fairly extensive firmware list for this device, considering the massive popularity of the Droid. We should have some happy days in the near future!
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What should we expect to see? Will there be a motoblur intergration or will it be straight up ICS?
My preference would be a non molested ICS but I'm sure we'll end up with another locked steaming turd.
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Keep in mind that Google now owns Motorola Mobility... if we're lucky, that will mean a more pure version of AOSP on our devices.
I'm really hoping for an AOSP build of ICS for the bionic, I love the way AOSP looks for Android 4.0
Starting to have my doubts that we get ICS from moto.... Have a feeling our developers are gonna make it work 100% for our Bionic before moto hands it to us. If moto even does hand it to us.. For the Razr Maxx to be coming out pretty soon and not even have ICS kindof makes you wonder wth moto is even doing in motoworld.
The Xoom- a Google Experience device with reference firmware- JUST today got Android 4.0. The Nexus 2 still doesn't have it officially. These things take time. It'll be April or May before we start seeing phones that are actually being released with ICS.
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It'll be April or May before we start seeing phones that are actually being released with ICS.
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Or about a month ago when the Galaxy Nexus was released...
It will take a little time for us to see it, I think. Hopefully not too long. I'm pretty sure they have officially stated that they will be releasing it for the Bionic, so I would hope they don't go back on a public announcement like that.
But, it looks like we've got devs that might get a working option for us before we get something official.
The Bionic will definitely get ICS. The phone just came out in September. Moto is pretty good with updates (usually). The Google purchase has NOT gone through yet. Will not go through til Feb supposedly.
My predictions:
-We will get it in March
-It will look pretty similar to blur as it looks now
-We will not notice much difference
-On paper second core of processor is suppose to be more optimized.
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we are lucky that the galaxy nexus as well as the newer moto phones (Razr, Razr MAXX) all use similar hardware so getting the drivers and radios up shouldnt be to difficult.
that being said its moto's skin that'll take time so we'll see. It would only be fair that they would upgrade the Bionic "fist" but who knows what will happen. I just pray ever day for an unlocked bootloader.
I wish they would throw their skin on in a similar fashion as using go launcher with beautiful Widgets so the process would be much faster. It just seems like they're making it more difficult on themselves.
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easting said:
My preference would be a non molested ICS but I'm sure we'll end up with another locked steaming turd.
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Then get a different, unlocked phone. No one wants to hear whining and not everyone cares about flashing a million roms or kernels every week.
Back on topic, I fully expect the update will include most of Moto's current modifications with maybe a few less changes from stock ICS. I'm hoping they will include the same kernel as the Razr's so we can easily overclock to 1.2 GHz like they did with the 2.2 update on the original Droid.
I ditched the Bionic for a Rezound but the Bionic definitely felt like a quick phone. I just got an ICS rom for my Rezound, it was smoking fast on GB and is much smoother with ICS. The Bionic should be very fast with ICS. Maybe they can help the camera out with ICS aswell.
I ditched as well. Sorry, the point of android is openness and MOTO bit the big one after they lied.
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I ditched as well. Sorry, the point of android is openness and MOTO bit the big one after they lied.
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While that is the point of android, the cell providers lost the memo. It will never be as open as it should be with their greedy little paws on it (illegal tethering, come on, we've been tethering since before they even offered their crap hotspot service) .
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nrage23 said:
I ditched the Bionic for a Rezound but the Bionic definitely felt like a quick phone. I just got an ICS rom for my Rezound, it was smoking fast on GB and is much smoother with ICS. The Bionic should be very fast with ICS. Maybe they can help the camera out with ICS aswell.
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I actually no longer have camera problems with the liberty rom. I know the issue that you refer to as I once had it. Click the button to take a picture then wait several seconds before it actually took the picture. So inconvenient that problem was.
I'm not exactly sure what any of these newer phones can do that the bionic can't do because app developers still have to develop for the older phones because developing for the newer phones limits your user base. If your going to develop an app, you're going to develop it for as many devices as possible. By the time we start getting apps that maximize the capabilities of our phones, there will be something much better out.
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I actually no longer have camera problems with the liberty rom. I know the issue that you refer to as I once had it. Click the button to take a picture then wait several seconds before it actually took the picture. So inconvenient that problem was.
I'm not exactly sure what any of these newer phones can do that the bionic can't do because app developers still have to develop for the older phones because developing for the newer phones limits your user base. If your going to develop an app, you're going to develop it for as many devices as possible. By the time we start getting apps that maximize the capabilities of our phones, there will be something much better out.
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The camera app problem on the bionic is totally Motorola's fault. They built the phone you would think they could write code for the hardware they chose. Again I think ICS will do wonders for the bionic. It felt like they rushed it out so they could finish the razr. Given that razr and the bionic are so similar, ICS should come much sooner for you guys.
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nrage23 said:
The camera app problem on the bionic is totally Motorola's fault. They built the phone you would think they could write code for the hardware they chose. Again I think ICS will do wonders for the bionic. It felt like they rushed it out so they could finish the razr. Given that razr and the bionic are so similar, ICS should come much sooner for you guys.
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I agree that Motorola screwed this phone up. I no longer have the camera issue with the liberty rom.
Even with all the screw ups Motorola made, I was still able to get my bionic running top notch, even without the .901 radio.
The biggest problem this phone had was after it got delayed by so much, and the hype it had, it shouldn't have had some of its initial problems. Its not like we didn't all know about this phone for 8 months before being released. Don't hype up a phone so much then fail to deliver. Even with their screw ups, I feel I have mine running as good as you can expect an android to run. I've had the thunderbolt and revolution and the bionic is far better than they were.
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I agree that Motorola screwed this phone up. I no longer have the camera issue with the liberty rom.
Even with all the screw ups Motorola made, I was still able to get my bionic running top notch, even without the .901 radio.
The biggest problem this phone had was after it got delayed by so much, and the hype it had, it shouldn't have had some of its initial problems. Its not like we didn't all know about this phone for 8 months before being released. Don't hype up a phone so much then fail to deliver. Even with their screw ups, I feel I have mine running as good as you can expect an android to run. I've had the thunderbolt and revolution and the bionic is far better than they were.
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I hear you. The Tbolt was a dog. I am very glad I got rid of the bionic but it was much better than the Tbolt.
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There's nothing out there that I feel that is worth getting rid of the bionic for. The nexus has plenty compatibility issues with running some apps (majority of Samsung phones do though) and the razr is too skinney for my taste plus I feel the marginal increase in it's specs aren't worth it. I also don't like the 3 button setup on the nexus. I'm too used to having 4 and using the 4 for so long to change my way.
We have quad core coming between now and summer that will blow everything away that's out now. Dont see any sense in replacing my phone for something that is only marginally better. Every Android has its problems and the ones I have with the bionic are manageable for me.
The only thing I could see me trading my bionic is if there is a significant increase in the app development world where more processing power is necessary. But with the fragmentation of android, an app developer would be dumb to do that because as an app developer, you want your app to be compatible with as many devices as possible. I can see some games coming out that may need more processing power though. Its only a matter of time before we start seeing PlayStation 2 emulators popping up.
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As title Says, Motorola Released an updated lineup of Devices to Receive ICS. Bionic is scheduled to get it in Early Q3 so I assume July ish. This is Straight from the Horses mouth (So to speak) lol. Hopefully we get a leak by jun though!
Heres Link: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Saw that. Stoked!
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HorsexD said:
As title Says, Motorola Released an updated lineup of Devices to Receive ICS. Bionic is scheduled to get it in Early Q3 so I assume July ish. This is Straight from the Horses mouth (So to speak) lol. Hopefully we get a leak by jun though!
Heres Link: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
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I came from the world of AT&T and Samsung. I will be stoked when we actually get it. Until then, I will assume "Early Q3 of this year" means late Q3 of next year, lol.
I'm currently using gummy ics and it works perfectly. I think I can manage a little while longer without an "official" build including all of Verizon's bloat.
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GummyICS is nice, but no ICS ROMs for the Bionic have hardware acceleration, HDMI, or properly working data (as in without the random drops). Stuff always leaks before it gets released, so I'm sure there will be a rooted, bloat-free ROM before it gets officially released by Motorola. Also, now that the Googlerola deal went through, maybe it will happen a little quicker...and a little less bloaty.
I did notice the lack of hardware acceleration when trying to use chrome beta, but I have yet to experience data drops on both 3g and 4g.
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GummyICS is nice, but no ICS ROMs for the Bionic have hardware acceleration, HDMI, or properly working data (as in without the random drops). Stuff always leaks before it gets released, so I'm sure there will be a rooted, bloat-free ROM before it gets officially released by Motorola. Also, now that the Googlerola deal went through, maybe it will happen a little quicker...and a little less bloaty.
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The bloat is mostly from Verizon, only some from Motorola (Motocast, motoactv, etc...). So the Googlerola deal likely won't fix that particular issue.
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Im Looking forward to the Lapdock Update the most. It would be nice to gain some speed on this little bad boy.
Won't the next Android version be announced by then? That would kinda be a downer considering we're still waiting for ICS. To me it doesn't matter that much at this point because there are already Gingerbread roms out there with an ICS theme. Not exactly like the real thing but for me it's good enough, heh.
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The bloat is mostly from Verizon, only some from Motorola (Motocast, motoactv, etc...). So the Googlerola deal likely won't fix that particular issue.
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I like how they call it zumocast on the bionic but motocast on some of their other devices. I wouldn't consider it bloat though. Every phone should come with an app like that. It's pretty useful.
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You do realize there is another post about this topic? That was what sucked about the bionic community, we kept getting repeat posts.
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smokedkill said:
You do realize there is another post about this topic? That was what sucked about the bionic community, we kept getting repeat posts.
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Your right. The threads should be merged but to be fair mine was made before the other one, Although just by a few minutes so its no ones fault. The other op probably didnt see this one because of the small window frame.
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HorsexD said:
As title Says, Motorola Released an updated lineup of Devices to Receive ICS. Bionic is scheduled to get it in Early Q3 so I assume July ish. This is Straight from the Horses mouth (So to speak) lol. Hopefully we get a leak by jun though!
Heres Link: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
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Verizon is soon to drop Bionic from their phone catalog, too many newer fascinating devices are out. after it goes off web catalog, Do you all really think they will give it an ICS update....This is the Evil Empire we are talking about here!
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Verizon is soon to drop Bionic from their phone catalog, too many newer fascinating devices are out. after it goes off web catalog, Do you all really think they will give it an ICS update....This is the Evil Empire we are talking about here!
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Well there is Test builds being found through Cheesecake and The Bionic isnt much Different from the razr and that is getting ICS.
HorsexD said:
Well there is Test builds being found through Cheesecake and The Bionic isnt much Different from the razr and that is getting ICS.
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Owned, son!
Sorry I couldn't resist. But still, I've been following the wait on ICS since I got my bionic back in October, and ICS will be welcome when it finally gets here. Id follow cheesecake myself but I hate stock blur with a passion, so I follow XDA.
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If we do not get ICS soon, i would not be surprised if the Bionic "fell through the cracks".
You should be surprised, since engineering builds are already being spread around. Doesn't take *too much* more than getting approval and changing the signatures to make it a user build.
Honestly all we need is 1 leak with a good kernel and we can switch over to CM9 through Bootstrap or Safestrap into CM9 and have a working camera/video and hardware acceleration.
I reactivated mine, and wanted to make sure I had a good current ROM. Looking through, I find a lot of dead links and old information.
Are people still developing for this phone?
It's not a super active community, but it is still alive.
The host site for a lot of the information (droidhive) was taken down a few weeks back and there hasn't been a good replacement made yet. I don't think we'll ever see an unlocked bootloader and if we do, it will probably be too little, too late. I expect ICS to eventually be released officially in the near future. That will put some life back into the community, but overall I would expect that new development will be minimal.
There just are not enough people--especially devs--still using the device.
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That said, there are ICS build leaks directly from Moto. But be weary about going above the .232 build and we don't have the FXZ at the moment. If you flash a newer version, there is no way to return to stock should something happen.
We don't have a direct bootloader unlock from Moto but I do believe we have Kexec. Its the best we have atm but with Kexec there has been a few people getting JB started for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1862459
With Kexec development is picking up. Would be better if moto would give us a Bootloader Unlock but I don't think that will happen. We're still waiting for an official ICS release. I am holding off on JB til we get an official ICS release and when JB is stable enough to use as a daily rom.
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We don't have a direct bootloader unlock from Moto but I do believe we have Kexec. Its the best we have atm but with Kexec there has been a few people getting JB started for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1862459
With Kexec development is picking up. Would be better if moto would give us a Bootloader Unlock but I don't think that will happen. We're still waiting for an official ICS release. I am holding off on JB til we get an official ICS release and when JB is stable enough to use as a daily rom.
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This is true. Kexec is a work around to load a Kernal on top of another Kernal and bypass the stock bootloader. This is in its infancy right now but will grow. I guess by years end we should have JB CM10 rom that should be stable. That is PURELY an educated guess. The Bionic has love but not nearly as much as it should have.
Lots of activity here
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/forum/68-droid-bionic/
Look in rom section
The new droid hive
http://romdroidhacks.com/forums/
The problem with the bionic community is that you have to go to 5 or more different sites to get everything for it. I've been an Android owner for over 3 years, and have had 4 different phones and 1 tablet, and this was the first device that I wasn't able to get everything here at XDA.
Its been a rock solid phone for me though and I love safestrap.
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smokedkill said:
The problem with the bionic community is that you have to go to 5 or more different sites to get everything for it. I've been an Android owner for over 3 years, and have had 4 different phones and 1 tablet, and this was the first device that I wasn't able to get everything here at XDA.
Its been a rock solid phone for me though and I love safestrap.
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A few of the most active bionic developers have had threads locked and been blocked from xda, so it is a bit more work to keep track of them.
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Perhaps it is due to the phone did not come out when the Etna was supposed to. It is also a year old and people have moved on to work on newer phones?
Ronald, it was like that even when the bionic was new. I bought mine within the first week it came out. Xda has been one of the last places to come for information with this phone.
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Right, but he's pointing out how the Bionic was delayed for a long, long time (and completely changed from the original Etna model), so a lot of people simply skipped over it. Locked bootloaders never help either.
when i was with my old p350, i remember there i saw a manifest from p350 users to LG, 'cause (i don't remember the model, sorry) *p500* users made a manifest and than send it to LG, so, past some time they was with ICS.
so, tonight, i was thinking about it, and (can look like a child's dream, but ..) WHY NOT?
and i know .. motofail won't help .. ):
I agree, droid 3 unfortunately became one of those unique devices motorola abandoned early. It is a pity that it doesn't have ics even with its ics reference cpu omap4430.
I mean this a company that nownbelongs to google. How much BS needs to be writen for they to comply with an upgrade that will take 3 days to their development team! Jesus!
But thats the misery of good and well created products (Delorian, Dreamcast and Wrangler) its.like a course.
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this phone deserves the trash compacter. worst phone i've everhad
So bad see some people think that.
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I feel so sorry for u.
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I was disappointed to see they abandoned this so early. ICS came out 11 months after the D3 released and no update? Unreal.
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I was disappointed to see they abandoned this so early. ICS came out 11 months after the D3 released and no update? Unreal.
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Actually it was released on 19 October 2011, and the droid 3 was released on July 7, 2011 which makes it only 3 months..........
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So bad see some people think that.
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I feel so sorry for u.
Sent from my my droid 3 directly to your ***.
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Well I wouldn't get too worked up about it. After all its only a phone
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I still find the Droid 3 the best smartphone with full-sized QWERTY keyboard out there, just behind the Droid 4. It doesn't make sense for a Droid 3 owner to buy a Droid 4 just to get 512mb extra RAM, 200mhz faster CPU and not much more.
ICS is the only other factor to consider getting a Droid 4, and knowing perfectly well that the Droid 3 is perfectly capable of handling ICS if Motorola wanted, I refuse to get a Droid 4.
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I still find the Droid 3 the best smartphone with full-sized QWERTY keyboard out there, just behind the Droid 4. It doesn't make sense for a Droid 3 owner to buy a Droid 4 just to get 512mb extra RAM, 200mhz faster CPU and not much more.
ICS is the only other factor to consider getting a Droid 4, and knowing perfectly well that the Droid 3 is perfectly capable of handling ICS if Motorola wanted, I refuse to get a Droid 4.
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don't forget photon Q. but still isn't too much.
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don't forget photon Q. but still isn't too much.
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Right! But it's too big for my liking (prefer 4'' than 4.3'' screen, specially at same resolution...), has less internal storage and you can't replace the battery... I have two batteries for my Droid 3 and it really saved me some times to be able to change to a fully charged up battery in a pinch. Can't do that with Droid 4 or Photon Q.
Still thinking that with ICS the Droid 3 has a couple more years of life for me at least.
and also you can install a mugen-power battery, which is 2-time longer than original one
and imho D3 has a better design, i mean it does not look like a toy