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Hey guys!
I'm wondering on how to remove the TouchWiz lockscreen because I'm about to use Lockbot wich act buggy with TW Lockscreen, it shows the TW Lockscreen before switching over to Lockbot.
Is there an APK somewhere i can remove to get rid of TouchWiz lockscreen (the one with the puzzle sliding etc.) ?
Thanks in advance masters!
Im in a similar predicament, i actually am using a passcode right now so it doesnt look like touchwiz
litobro said:
Im in a similar predicament, i actually am using a passcode right now so it doesnt look like touchwiz
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Thank you for your reply, the problem is I cannot use Lockbot now because the TW Lockesreen messes it up. Also on Exlair (Android 2.1) it is not possible to set up a passcode, FroYo is needed for that plus this won't fix my Lockbot issue either. I alreafy did some diging in the APK folders but couldn't really sort it out. You are on FroYo I believe? It is possible to set a SIM pincode but that doesnt help aswell.
PEACE!
The free app NoLock will remove your lockscreen entirely, if you press power/home to wake your phone it will immediately be unlocked. There are several apps on the market to replace your lockscreen with a different style but in my experience these aren't completely satisfying - sometimes the original lockscreen appears for a splitsecond, other times they're just not as responsive and may take a second longer for you to unlock the phone.
Regardless, just try searching the market for 'lockscreen' and see what you find. WidgetLocker is pretty good but not free.
Indeed I am on Froyo, I wasn't aware it isn't available on eclair. Well, if anyone else finds further development besides market apps that seem to slightly lag please help out!
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There are several apps on the market to replace your lockscreen with a different style but in my experience these aren't completely satisfying - sometimes the original lockscreen appears for a splitsecond, other times they're just not as responsive and may take a second longer for you to unlock the phone.
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This is exacly my problem, LockBot is one of these tools, it shows the default TW Lockscreen for a second before switching to LockBot Lockscreen, this is exacly why i want the TW Lockscreen removed
Oh and thanks for thinking with me
Download SGS INFO on the forum here install and run the app selecting set powerbutton action. Select the tickbox and this will permantly disable the lock screen until you select otherwise.
The beauty if this is that it doesnt use a 3rd party app to do this just provides a shortcut to hidden options within the SGS.
Hope this helps.
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Download SGS INFO on the forum here install and run the app selecting set powerbutton action. Select the tickbox and this will permantly disable the lock screen until you select otherwise.
The beauty if this is that it doesnt use a 3rd party app to do this just provides a shortcut to hidden options within the SGS.
Hope this helps.
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Yes it did help, solved my problem mate! Thanks so much and all people that replied here, love you
You can also easily revert back to the stock lock (...and two smoking barrels! ) screen by modifying the code in /system/framework/android.policy.odex.
Ateisti said:
You can also easily revert back to the stock lock (...and two smoking barrels! ) screen by modifying the code in /system/framework/android.policy.odex.
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Care to explain further?
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Certainly, sir. I posted the instructions in a separate thread. For which I'm apparently not allowed to post the direct link to...
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8090714
mrwookie6379 said:
Download SGS INFO on the forum here install and run the app selecting set powerbutton action. Select the tickbox and this will permantly disable the lock screen until you select otherwise.
The beauty if this is that it doesnt use a 3rd party app to do this just provides a shortcut to hidden options within the SGS.
Hope this helps.
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i installed the app. but when i choose set powerbutton action, i have only this one on the list :
shutdown: enable to shutdown on end call long press.
thats not right or ?
which code must i enter to disable lockscreen.
and would it be the same code to reactivate the stock lock screen ?
Falloutboy2000 said:
i installed the app. but when i choose set powerbutton action, i have only this one on the list :
shutdown: enable to shutdown on end call long press.
thats not right or ?
which code must i enter to disable lockscreen.
and would it be the same code to reactivate the stock lock screen ?
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This is correct sire, check that box and your TW Lockscreen will be goners
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This is correct sire, check that box and your TW Lockscreen will be goners
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when i tick off the shutdown option, then 3 things happen:
1. the question if i really want to shut down my phone is gone. (i think this is the real action, what it does)
2. when i restart my phone, the sim card is not accepted, its even not asked for pin. i tried 3 times, so its not working
3. the lockscreen is gone.
so i need an other option, maybe i will deinstall it completly.
or has someone an other suggestion ?
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Certainly, sir. I posted the instructions in a separate thread. For which I'm apparently not allowed to post the direct link to...
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8090714
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Awesoe Saw your post Great Work
Falloutboy2000 said:
when i tick off the shutdown option, then 3 things happen:
1. the question if i really want to shut down my phone is gone. (i think this is the real action, what it does)
2. when i restart my phone, the sim card is not accepted, its even not asked for pin. i tried 3 times, so its not working
3. the lockscreen is gone.
so i need an other option, maybe i will deinstall it completly.
or has someone an other suggestion ?
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Use "no lock" from market
DocRambone said:
Use "no lock" from market
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Hey Rambone!
Most of the times these apps don't work together with apps such as LockBot for getting another lockscreen. Will try it out tho, thanks for the heads up
Great job on your ROM's b.t.w. mate, really awesome! Keep up the good work!
location of sgs download
Ateisti said:
Certainly, sir. I posted the instructions in a separate thread. For which I'm apparently not allowed to post the direct link to...
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8090714
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Hello I'm kinda of a noob to this stuff (not kinda really lol) and I was wondering where can I locate this sgs download on the forum
Had never heard of this app until today and I love it... Thought I'd give it a mention.
It's a complete lockscreen replacement.
does it feel as smooth as the standard lock screen? or does it cause some lag?
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does it feel as smooth as the standard lock screen? or does it cause some lag?
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I haven't noticed any lag.
The only downside in my opinion, so far, is that the gmail icon counter only shows the count of your primary account. Hopefully they enhance that to show counts of multiple accounts soon.
The biggest down side about apps like this is its not a true replacement for the lock screen.. It is just an app that runs over top of the default one.. I bought widgetlocker and now dont use it. I will sometimes see the stock lock screen or it wont have lag when locking it.. I tried GoTo and its about the same..
I came from the iPhone and used intelliscreen which just added stuff to the default lock screen.. Was amazing.. Wish someone could come up with the same type of mod for the android lock screen.. =[
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The biggest down side about apps like this is its not a true replacement for the lock screen.. It is just an app that runs over top of the default one.. I bought widgetlocker and now dont use it. I will sometimes see the stock lock screen or it wont have lag when locking it.. I tried GoTo and its about the same..
I came from the iPhone and used intelliscreen which just added stuff to the default lock screen.. Was amazing.. Wish someone could come up with the same type of mod for the android lock screen.. =[
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Testing more, the only time I ever see the normal lockscreen is if I enable the option to disable the volume/camera buttons. I reported it, not sure what they'll do about it.
That said, I don't actually want that option enabled so I never see the normal lockscreen in my real use.
I also still have not run into any lag, but I guess that will vary based on a zillion different factors from person to person.
You're right though, I wish that things like this could be true replacements.
Theres a way to disable the lock.screen on htc devices but that's cause its a .apk with some digging around I'm sure someone can disable the tw lock screen. Doing so would allow you to use the app without the stock lock screen showing up. Not to sure about lag thought
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Theres a way to disable the lock.screen on htc devices but that's cause its a .apk with some digging around I'm sure someone can disable the tw lock screen. Doing so would allow you to use the app without the stock lock screen showing up. Not to sure about lag thought
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That'd be cool... I'll have to search around.
I need to use the phone for a bit longer and test more, but I went into Titanium and froze TWLauncher and I am no longer getting the normal lockscreen, even if I disable GOTO, so I think it is gone.
I do see the normal lockscreen very briefly if I reboot the the phone, but it goes away in a split second and I don't see it again unless I reboot again.
Perhaps that is all that is needed.
This app is the bomb
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I need to use the phone for a bit longer and test more, but I went into Titanium and froze TWLauncher and I am no longer getting the normal lockscreen, even if I disable GOTO, so I think it is gone.
I do see the normal lockscreen very briefly if I reboot the the phone, but it goes away in a split second and I don't see it again unless I reboot again.
Perhaps that is all that is needed.
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Nevermind... that SEEMED to work for a little bit, but now if I have the disable volume/camera option enabled I see the normal lockscreen for a split second again. It goes away quickly, but it does appear.
That said, I still never see it at all if I don't enable the disable volume/camera option.
Ok, I installed NoLock (free in the Market) and disabled the lockscreen with it and that works. I see the normal lockscreen very briefly upon a reboot, but never again after that.
I tested a bit longer this time before saying so, lol.
This thing works flawlessly for me. Sometimes my fat fingers have a hard time stopping on the text message one, but that is user error.
Goto is awesome... it even ran with no lag on my hero
Traced with Ultra Keyboard from my *Epic*
So I've been using this for a day now and I love it. Can change the shortcuts to similar apps, can unlock, doesn't make phone lag and it's only .99c
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I've also been using it for a day now, and it's a really nice app!
Been seeing the regular homescreen quite a few times though, will try to disable the "enable the disable volume/camera option"' option...
yeah as someone else said you have to use nolock (market) with any lockscreen app but i've heard that it does make it pretty flawless
You can do this and it's probably easier to change your lockscreen over and over, but you can navigate the system, or apply a new theme which either way can change the system files. Someone more knowledgeable than me can chime in as to what you need to do, I'm not sure if you can delete it and disable it that way or if it just puts something else up instead, but I definitely know you can theme the lockscreen because I have seen different ROM's have different lockscreens.
Thanks for.posting this app. Its pretty good.
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ive been using goto for roughly three months now.....
thats all i gotta say lol
What about the power consumption?
After 7 hours the battery is completely empty. This is not normal, right? ( HTC DESIRE HD )
Well, I finally made the switch from iOS to Android. But there are a few things I miss about it, albeit little things.
I have no idea what's good and what's bad in the Play Store, what to avoid etc.
I'm used to having notifications on the lockscreen. Yes, I've realised I can pull down the notification bar when on the lockscreen, but AFAIK that's only if you don't have a password/pattern/face-recog.
I've also tried the 'Productivity', that doesn't show Skype messages, Tweets, WhatsApp messages and stuff like that.
I also have a 4-digit pin for my lockscreen, I'm used to typing in the PIN then it'll automatically unlock.
But on Android (or on Sense, anyway) I have to type it in, then press enter.
Like I said, they're little things. But things I miss nonetheless.
So! Is there anything I can do/change or anything I can install to 'fix' these things?
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Well, I finally made the switch from iOS to Android. But there are a few things I miss about it, albeit little things.
I have no idea what's good and what's bad in the Play Store, what to avoid etc.
I'm used to having notifications on the lockscreen. Yes, I've realised I can pull down the notification bar when on the lockscreen, but AFAIK that's only if you don't have a password/pattern/face-recog.
I've also tried the 'Productivity', that doesn't show Skype messages, Tweets, WhatsApp messages and stuff like that.
I also have a 4-digit pin for my lockscreen, I'm used to typing in the PIN then it'll automatically unlock.
But on Android (or on Sense, anyway) I have to type it in, then press enter.
Like I said, they're little things. But things I miss nonetheless.
So! Is there anything I can do/change or anything I can install to 'fix' these things?
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I understand that you're missing the things you've been used to for a long time but at the end of the day this phone isn't an iphone and it's not pretending to be either.
For me if i want to know who's contacted me i unlock my phone and check, it's that simple. In all fairness, if a lockscreen can give away information then it's a lockscreen that's not doing it's job, i want my info to be private until i want to use my phone, otherwise anyone could just open it and take a look.
I'm sure that you'll find that after a while you'll see why people use android over ios and if you ever make the switch back to ios you will miss android so much it'll just make the iphone look stupid.
As a rule of thumb i always go for paid versions of apps and avoid any with aggressive ads, so anything that installs something else with it has to go, If anything has notifying ads then again it has to go.
Generally speaking that's about it with the apps, just go nuts.
There are tonnes of "Best app" threads on XDA and majority of them are in the top 100 apps on the play store anyway.
Afaik there isn't a way to have iphone style scrolling of your notifications.
You do get missed calls and texts on your lockscreen though (the productivity switch is probably the place to go to turn most of these on)
It can be done goto your messages go to settings it will be in there something like display message on screen same for WhatsApp and so on
Exact same problem over here. Coming from iOS and being used to get everything I need to know right there on the lockscreen.
There are some apps on the Playstore that you can use as a workaround though.
First, don't hesitate to use Notifypro, it will send you a little notification like you could get on iPhone. Notification will appear everywhere, in a game, a video, etc etc. Easily configurable and useful. Plus it's free !
Next, I tried it but didn't like it that much, it's Notification LockScreen Widget. I'm not really fond of it, there must anoter app doing it better...but I can't try anothere one since my phone has been shipped for warranty.
There are 2 settings on the security section in settings, one to show message notification preview and one to show phone notification on the lock screen. Try those...
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[snip] ...and if you ever make the switch back to ios you will miss android so much it'll just make the iphone look stupid. [snip]
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I've just realised how true this is now.
I've had to resort back to my iP4 while my One gets replaced, it's only been gone a few hours and I'm missing it already!
Same thing here. Was an ios user since iPhone 2g (the most beautiful one imho). This is my first Android phone after getting a nexus 7 last summer.
For me there's just some handiness in some of the functionality built into ios. What I "missed" was the batt status in percentages, volume control from headset and also the notifications.
Found these three apps:
Notification toggle
Can put a batt percentage in the statusbar. And also some very handy quicklaunch buttons in the notification tray like android 4.2.2. and touch wizz.
Jays headset control
The name says it all and it gets the job done.
LockerPro
It's a locks screen replacement which also shows notifications like ios.
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Same thing here. Was an ios user since iPhone 2g (the most beautiful one imho). This is my first Android phone after getting a nexus 7 last summer.
For me there's just some handiness in some of the functionality built into ios. What I "missed" was the batt status in percentages, volume control from headset and also the notifications.
Found these three apps:
Notification toggle
Can put a batt percentage in the statusbar. And also some very handy quicklaunch buttons in the notification tray like android 4.2.2. and touch wizz.
Jays headset control
The name says it all and it gets the job done.
LockerPro
It's a locks screen replacement which also shows notifications like ios.
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Thanks for this info. I'm coming from a jailbroken iPhone 5 and I want the quick settings toggles on the lockscreen.
KH_ said:
Same thing here. Was an ios user since iPhone 2g (the most beautiful one imho). This is my first Android phone after getting a nexus 7 last summer.
For me there's just some handiness in some of the functionality built into ios. What I "missed" was the batt status in percentages, volume control from headset and also the notifications.
Found these three apps:
Notification toggle
Can put a batt percentage in the statusbar. And also some very handy quicklaunch buttons in the notification tray like android 4.2.2. and touch wizz.
Jays headset control
The name says it all and it gets the job done.
LockerPro
It's a locks screen replacement which also shows notifications like ios.
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Not bad for a first post
Thanks for the apps, and welcome to the forum!
Thanks, and np. That's why we're here right? To find and share!
Cheers!
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cheers KH_; can I ask, is it stable for you? lots of reviewers saying it crashes quite often?
Apologies for the late reply mate.
Locker pro works really well! It's great being able to see ur notifications and actually read the content from the lockscreen! The app has a shortcut and widget panel accessible from the lockscreen too.
Jays headset control didn't work at all on my device so deleted it. I got the HTC metal three button headset. Good price, sound at least as good as headset supplied with the phone, skip tracks and volume control!
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Hey all ....
I am having some extremely frustrating problems with Widget Locker Lockscreen here on my HTC One.
First, I can't seem to get the homehelper to work correctly as it doesn't even look like its saving my settings when I switch launchers or anything for testing. I don't need a PIN or security on my phone as deep as setting that, I just don't want the home button to take me to the home screen when on the lockscreen. GO locker did this beautifully for me, and didn't have the second issue below.
Second, when it does work for like 10 seconds, I get an annoying flicker of it trying to paint the homescreen then going back to the lockscreen.
Anyone else experiencing any of these issues or know how to fix them? I have emailed the created of WL a couple of times stating the problems I was having within the app and got nothing back, so its time to ask the XDA Community.
Thanks
I experienced the same problems as you. It was an amazing app when it was on my Nexus one, still is used. But on the Htc One its pretty lackluster. I know I have nothing to contribute but I just uninstalled it...
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I experienced the same problems as you. It was an amazing app when it was on my Nexus one, still is used. But on the Htc One its pretty lackluster. I know I have nothing to contribute but I just uninstalled it...
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Your HTC One is running ARHD as well (well from your signature it says it is) ... I am on 11.5.
Can someone on a different ROM check to see if they are having these issues as well? I know a lot of people are using the app so someone on a different ROM shouldnt be hard to find
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Your HTC One is running ARHD as well (well from your signature it says it is) ... I am on 11.5.
Can someone on a different ROM check to see if they are having these issues as well? I know a lot of people are using the app so someone on a different ROM shouldnt be hard to find
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Hey, I'm on fully converted GE. I use nova/widgetlocker religiously. Unfortunately, I have the same problems when I try to use homehelper. Its like an inefficient workaround, shows the "redraw" of home but tries to maintain WL. This isn't a working solution. I've disabled it and for the time being, I've just tried to ignore the home button while lock screen. Its always just power button or swipe (if i'm using custom kernel) then unlock using lockscreen. I've looked for other lockscreen alternatives but in terms of features, nothing compares to WL. I hope the devs bring out an update in the near future to address these issues.
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Hey, I'm on fully converted GE. I use nova/widgetlocker religiously. Unfortunately, I have the same problems when I try to use homehelper. Its like an inefficient workaround, shows the "redraw" of home but tries to maintain WL. This isn't a working solution. I've disabled it and for the time being, I've just tried to ignore the home button while lock screen. Its always just power button or swipe (if i'm using custom kernel) then unlock using lockscreen. I've looked for other lockscreen alternatives but in terms of features, nothing compares to WL. I hope the devs bring out an update in the near future to address these issues.
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Awesome. Thanks for the update. I have been extremely frustrated with this app but nothing compares to the customizing that can be done with it. Lets hope for a speedy update to fix this or hopefully the devs actually come on XDA and see this thread starting and address it
I was able to get rid of the flicker by turning on "HomeHelper ondemand via root" in Advanced > Root Helper (in addition to enabling HopeHelper). I'm currently on TrickDroid 8.00 and WidgetLocker 2.4beta8.
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I was able to get rid of the flicker by turning on "HomeHelper ondemand via root" in Advanced > Root Helper (in addition to enabling HopeHelper). I'm currently on TrickDroid 8.00 and WidgetLocker 2.4beta8.
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Turned on HomeHelper ondemand via root .... it stopped the home button bypass of the lockscreen but I still have the flicker
Crazy observation ....
I cleared all my settings, defaults, etc this morning before I posted about the homehelper with root .... and still had the flicker
Just playing around with my phone now I changed my lockscreen to have an alternate background from my home screen .... no more flicker on my device ...
Do you guys have alternate backgrounds? If not, can you try switch to one and see if you still get the flicker?
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On ViperRom it works normal and perfectly =)
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On ViperRom it works normal and perfectly =)
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TrickDroid, as posted above, seems to not have any issues either. Is there anyone else on TrickDroid or ViperRom that has had issues?
I can't see why it would be limited to ARHD and GE Roms on the One, but since I don't know much about how these are put together, I guess anything is possible.
Also to note, after my change yesterday, I haven't had an issue since.
just installed app again after update. works like a charm and the dashclock is in "fullscreen" unlike when it was on the sense lockscreen!
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just installed app again after update. works like a charm and the dashclock is in "fullscreen" unlike when it was on the sense lockscreen!
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can you explain the procedure you followed to do it.i am on IC ROM...when i select Dashclock lockscreen it gets shown on the lockscreen but the default lockscreen is still there...kinda looks odd...two clocks on one lockscreen...
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can you explain the procedure you followed to do it.i am on IC ROM...when i select Dashclock lockscreen it gets shown on the lockscreen but the default lockscreen is still there...kinda looks odd...two clocks on one lockscreen...
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I dont get it? you installed Lockscreen widget and it doesnt enable? make sure you go to settings of lockscreen widget and enable it! tick that box see if that works...
after that it should be simple from there!
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I dont get it? you installed Lockscreen widget and it doesnt enable? make sure you go to settings of lockscreen widget and enable it! tick that box see if that works...
after that it should be simple from there!
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ok...m trying ...
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ok...m trying ...
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any news?
do you guys know any way to use the default lockscreen when you get a call?
the only two possibilities that I found is to either have no lockscreen or you don't see who's calling you (because you need to unlock widget locker first) - both not ideal if you ask me
Greetings
MJFox
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do you guys know any way to use the default lockscreen when you get a call?
the only two possibilities that I found is to either have no lockscreen or you don't see who's calling you (because you need to unlock widget locker first) - both not ideal if you ask me
Greetings
MJFox
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Well I dunno about you. But I am not having any issue for when someone calls me. but then again I didn't put any sort of security on my phone.
I just have Widget Locker Lockscreen enabled. someone calls me goes straight to answer/decline for me
Using default lockscreen, there is this cool feature (widget?) that shows controls and info of music that is currently playing, no matter what is the player you are using (I use both Spotify and Poweramp). Is there similar widget available that could be used with Widget Locker? I have found some that has support for Poweramp, but for spotify none. I'd rather not add both player's own widget to Widget Locker, it would be just spending space (and Spotify's widget is quite ugly).
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I just have Widget Locker Lockscreen enabled. someone calls me goes straight to answer/decline for me
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me too, but that's the problem: you don't have to swipe up to answer or decline the call, the phone is unlocked so you only have to tap answer or decline... this may cause you to accept/decline calls by accident
I would like to have the default incoming call screen where you have to swipe up to accept the call together with widget locker, but I didn't find a way yet to achieve that
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MJFox
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Hey guys,
considering the Mate S but don't really like the way recent apps menu looks and works. Did anyone replace it with something more stock like?
Does the app Fancy Switcher work with the Mate S, could somebody check this please?
And what about the lock screen - has anybody replaced that with an alternative lock screen app? Will the fingerprint scanner still unlock the device using an alternative lock screen?
Thx for your answers,
vercetti.
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Hey guys,
considering the Mate S but don't really like the way recent apps menu looks and works. Did anyone replace it with something more stock like?
Does the app Fancy Switcher work with the Mate S, could somebody check this please?
And what about the lock screen - has anybody replaced that with an alternative lock screen app? Will the fingerprint scanner still unlock the device using an alternative lock screen?
Thx for your answers,
vercetti.
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Hi, here in the UK on the latest build for Lollipop I was unable to install Fancy Switcher, as it said it wasn't compatible with my device.
I'm not very keen on the stock recents however I believe the marshmallow update change's this from 4 apps on a screen to a single app per screen
Lock screen, not very nice and ability to set apps as sensitive to stop them displaying the app sender or message (for example in WhatsApp) which is something I really miss from previous Lollipop and Marshmallow that I had on a HTC One M8 running Google Play Edition. I've tried 'Next' lock screen app from Microsoft but unable to unlock with fingerprint so its probably only a function that works with the stock lock screen. As Marshmallow has native support for fingerprint sensors maybe the update will bring additional functionality however we will have to wait and see.
I did register for Marshmallow beta testing but don't appear to have been selected unless rollout is slow.
I like the phone but almost wish I had waiting and tried a Mate 8. The extra battery size and already on Marshmallow may make it a better choice.
I've always been a stock android or custom ROM person however I quite like some features of the EMUI skin...just wish there were a few more customisations and built in features that were enabled as standard...like the ability to change the cycle date of your mobile data plan.
Gavin
hey gavin,
thx for the nice reply.
the recent apps menu in marshmallow makes it even worse if only 1 app is available per screen. to get to the 5th app you'd have to swipe 5 times (compared to now with just one swipe)! that really sucks - 1 app per screen?!?
too bad about fancy switcher, that would look nice if it worked. i found switcher so far but it doesn't work 100% on my note 2. would you try that one out for me?
lock screen - how are notifactions presented? would you have a screenshot? and they can be swiped away right from the lockscreen?
thx for your help,
vercetti.
hey,
i just saw a video on youtube of emui 4 and the recent apps menu could be seen for short time.
it's improved a lot for my taste: yes, you can only see one app but you flick it to the left and all the others appear. so you only need one swipe to make the other apps slide into appearance and you can swipe them away if they're not wanted anymore.
so yes, you only see one app once the menu is opened but it's seemless once you start swiping.
here's the link to the video. there are probably much better videos, i just came across this one.
the recent apps menu appears on 00:10 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPgATGXaFcA
greetz,
v.
p.s. in the 5 seconds you see the person using the recent apps menu it looks very laggy/unresponsive but i suppose it's a demo or prototype phone. i'm sure it works fine.
vercetti said:
hey,
i just saw a video on youtube of emui 4 and the recent apps menu could be seen for short time.
it's improved a lot for my taste: yes, you can only see one app but you flick it to the left and all the others appear. so you only need one swipe to make the other apps slide into appearance and you can swipe them away if they're not wanted anymore.
so yes, you only see one app once the menu is opened but it's seemless once you start swiping.
here's the link to the video. there are probably much better videos, i just came across this one.
the recent apps menu appears on 00:10 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPgATGXaFcA
greetz,
v.
p.s. in the 5 seconds you see the person using the recent apps menu it looks very laggy/unresponsive but i suppose it's a demo or prototype phone. i'm sure it works fine.
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I had just tried Switchr, not sure if I was using it correctly but when I swiped in from the side it said "No Recent Apps" although I had just opened WhatsApp and Clock.
With regards to Lock Screen, I have't got a screenshot at the moment, but what I can say is you can swipe left to remove the lock screen notification or swipe right to open the app that the notification has come from, this presents the numeric pad for you to enter your unlock pin, but just touch the fingerprint reader and the phone unlocks.
Regards
Gavin
brumgav said:
I had just tried Switchr, not sure if I was using it correctly but when I swiped in from the side it said "No Recent Apps" although I had just opened WhatsApp and Clock.
With regards to Lock Screen, I have't got a screenshot at the moment, but what I can say is you can swipe left to remove the lock screen notification or swipe right to open the app that the notification has come from, this presents the numeric pad for you to enter your unlock pin, but just touch the fingerprint reader and the phone unlocks.
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Gavin
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Thx Gavin,
that's exactly what happens with my note 2 when i install Switcher. The only thing that worked is to set up favorite apps within the Switcher app. Then it will always show you the icons of those apps. But without a preview of the app, just the icon.
I found a few more videos on youtube with Emui 4.0 and i'd be fine with their latest version of the recent apps menu. And it's just a matter of time til the Mate S gets the marshmallow update.
About the lockscreen: so even if i don't activate a pin code, sliding a notification to the right to open the app will still bring me to a numberpad where i should enter a pin? and then i'd have unlock that with the fingerprint ID? sounds very weird. i can't just slide the notifation to the right and it opens the app diectly?
thx,
v.
vercetti said:
Thx Gavin,
that's exactly what happens with my note 2 when i install Switcher. The only thing that worked is to set up favorite apps within the Switcher app. Then it will always show you the icons of those apps. But without a preview of the app, just the icon.
I found a few more videos on youtube with Emui 4.0 and i'd be fine with their latest version of the recent apps menu. And it's just a matter of time til the Mate S gets the marshmallow update.
About the lockscreen: so even if i don't activate a pin code, sliding a notification to the right to open the app will still bring me to a numberpad where i should enter a pin? and then i'd have unlock that with the fingerprint ID? sounds very weird. i can't just slide the notifation to the right and it opens the app diectly?
thx,
v.
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I think I got that slightly wrong...it appears you can not dismiss a notification from the lockscreen by sliding left, however once unlocked you can dissmiss all notification by double tap on fingerprint reader
If you are using the fingerprint ID you have to set a PIN....but what I meant was if you slide the notification to the right...it brings up the screen to unlock so you can either enter the PIN or you can press the finger print reader....you dont have to do both of them.
I guess if you dont set a PIN or fingerprint then it will just open the app but i prefer the security of having my phone locked securely with fingerprint.
brumgav said:
I think I got that slightly wrong...it appears you can not dismiss a notification from the lockscreen by sliding left, however once unlocked you can dissmiss all notification by double tap on fingerprint reader.
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too bad you cannot get rid of the notifications right off the lockscreen.
instead unlock -> pull down status bar -> double tap fingerprint
If you are using the fingerprint ID you have to set a PIN....but what I meant was if you slide the notification to the right...it brings up the screen to unlock so you can either enter the PIN or you can press the finger print reader....you dont have to do both of them.
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and this will get me to the app? in whatsapp for example, will it jump into the conversation where the new message has been posted or it will simply open whatsapp and present the conversation list?
thx,
v.
vercetti said:
too bad you cannot get rid of the notifications right off the lockscreen.
instead unlock -> pull down status bar -> double tap fingerprint
and this will get me to the app? in whatsapp for example, will it jump into the conversation where the new message has been posted or it will simply open whatsapp and present the conversation list?
thx,
v.
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When on the lock screen - you can't pull down the status bar or the quick settings tiles at all.....(now that is dissappointing) as I would like to be able to quickly disable mobile data something without unlocking or turn off GPS without unlocking.
With WhatsApp it takes you straight to the conversation that the message was posted in.
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When on the lock screen - you can't pull down the status bar or the quick settings tiles at all.....(now that is dissappointing) as I would like to be able to quickly disable mobile data something without unlocking or turn off GPS without unlocking.
With WhatsApp it takes you straight to the conversation that the message was posted in.
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Thx on the Whatsapp-notification-clarification
Yeah, i heard that you can't pull down status bar on lockscreen. That is really a pity.
But the doubletap to wake and/or the fast fingerprint scanner can perhaps compensate this issue. Double tap and then pull down the status bar. Oh wait, double tap probably only wakes the device up again, right? That'll just take you to the unlock screen which, then again, has to be unlocked...
Lots of little "problems". Maybe i could get used to them. I'm sure there are more than just the lock screen, right?
How are you getting along coming from AOSP?
Have you rooted? That would be my top priority. Changing DPI is a must to me.
greetz,
v.
vercetti said:
Thx on the Whatsapp-notification-clarification
Yeah, i heard that you can't pull down status bar on lockscreen. That is really a pity.
But the doubletap to wake and/or the fast fingerprint scanner can perhaps compensate this issue. Double tap and then pull down the status bar. Oh wait, double tap probably only wakes the device up again, right? That'll just take you to the unlock screen which, then again, has to be unlocked...
Lots of little "problems". Maybe i could get used to them. I'm sure there are more than just the lock screen, right?
How are you getting along coming from AOSP?
Have you rooted? That would be my top priority. Changing DPI is a must to me.
greetz,
v.
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The double tap on the fingerprint scanner only works when the phone is unlocked. Once unlocked u can swipe down on the fingerprint scanner to bring down notification bar and then double tap fingerprint scanner to clear all the notification, this is really nice feature.
I really miss some of the AOSP things but its outweighed by some the fact of having a fingerprint scanner...The guest mode is great, either set a different PIN (or for a family member register one of their fingerprints) and if they want to use your phone they can use it in guest mode so they can only see, Apps that you allow them to see, and galleries that you allow them to see), plus you can also lock Apps so that they require a fingerprint to open which is good too, perhaps for your banking app or something like that.
I did root, but unrooted in order to allow an OTA update to be installed.
I also wiped the phone and converted it to a chinese variant which brings lots of chinese bloatware (uninstalled) but some extra features like permissions manager, virus scanner, mobile data plan cycle date manager..
I'm back converted to a european variant now though becuase I registered to be MM beta tester although I dont seem to have been accepted yet, unless they havent released to the UK yet. I'm still waiting for it to come OTA.
I'm really hoping that the MM update and EMUI 4.0 update bring lots of new features.
I brought an iPhone 6 Plus a month ago to have a look at it, as I had the opportunity to buy one, have a play and sell it without making a loss and I admit I really quite liked some of its features...considering the CPU the iPhones are so fast but I hated the notification centre, Android really have a great notification system and I prefered being able to customise lots of features, particulary with ROMs like Cyanogen. I sold it and after seeing the Mate S online thought it looked great and thought performance would be better....for example graphics performance isn't very good at all...but I only play things like Clash of Clans, Boom Beach, Sim City not nothign that requires heavy frame rates. I'm sure it would handle games liek Asphalt okay but have't tried.
I have seen youtube videos comparing Galaxy S6 and Mate 8 (yes the bigger Mate S with better CPU) however the S6 still wsa very powerful on graphics.
Like I said, hopeing the MM and EMUI update brings some improvement however, for jsut a normal phone user that uses phone on train during morning commute for 40 minutes I'm more than happy with it. Finger print sensor on the rear is perfect, I've barely opened the front cover of my phone case and just natural position of my hand and first finger is perfect so the phone is unlocked ready for me. I think my thumb was at risk of being strained on my HTC One M8 which I had pattern unlock....when I look back I don't know how I managed to keep doing that pattern so many times, and also the risk that a pick pocket could learn my pattern over time.
Hope this is helping you.
brumgav said:
The double tap on the fingerprint scanner only works when the phone is unlocked. Once unlocked u can swipe down on the fingerprint scanner to bring down notification bar and then double tap fingerprint scanner to clear all the notification, this is really nice feature.
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hey, sorry for the mixup: i didn't mean the double tap on the fingerprint scanner but the feature "double tap to wake" which is somewhere in the emui settings. with that you simply doubletap the screen to wake it from standby but i'm guessing this won't unlock it, it will just activate the lockscreen.
I really miss some of the AOSP things but its outweighed by some the fact of having a fingerprint scanner...The guest mode is great, either set a different PIN (or for a family member register one of their fingerprints) and if they want to use your phone they can use it in guest mode so they can only see, Apps that you allow them to see, and galleries that you allow them to see), plus you can also lock Apps so that they require a fingerprint to open which is good too, perhaps for your banking app or something like that.
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those are all very nice features, yes. and the fingerprint scanner is also one of my reasons why i'm looking to upgrade.
i also think the camera results are good enough and that especially the camera app itself is nice (pro mode too).
i'm looking for a 5,5" screen with fingerprint scanner on the back (one reason why the oneplus2 doesn't match my interest even though otherwise it seems to be a nice phone too - its fingerprint sensor is on the home button like with the samsung models).
build quality is also great.
i usually would never go for a phone that doesn't have lots of custom roms available by the time i buy it. but somehow i think i'll be making an exception here. with an AOSP custom rom i would lose all the fingerprint sensor features, the camera app (its features and resulting images) and other EMUI features that i feel might come in handy (like you summed it up in your last post). so having this phone with an AOSP rom would make it sort of pointless in a way. the features we both miss from AOSP is the price we need to pay in order of getting all the mate s features. we just can't have it both i'm afraid
I did root, but unrooted in order to allow an OTA update to be installed.
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that's my plan. root it as soon as i get it. and once the marshmallow update is available i'd set it back, go stock, update to marshmallow and then root it again (hope it won't take long for someone to figure out how to root on marshmallow).
I also wiped the phone and converted it to a chinese variant which brings lots of chinese bloatware (uninstalled) but some extra features like permissions manager, virus scanner, mobile data plan cycle date manager..
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perhaps there are certain apps (root) that provide these features, instead of using the chinese mate s rom?
I'm back converted to a european variant now though becuase I registered to be MM beta tester although I dont seem to have been accepted yet, unless they havent released to the UK yet. I'm still waiting for it to come OTA.
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probably not out yet...
thought performance would be better....for example graphics performance isn't very good at all...but I only play things like Clash of Clans, Boom Beach, Sim City not nothign that requires heavy frame rates. I'm sure it would handle games liek Asphalt okay but have't tried.
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not really a gamer, so i don't worry too much about the limiting graphics performance.
Hope this is helping you.
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yes indeed, thanx a whole lot, i appreciate it very much.
greetz,
v.
vercetti said:
hey, sorry for the mixup: i didn't mean the double tap on the fingerprint scanner but the feature "double tap to wake" which is somewhere in the emui settings. with that you simply doubletap the screen to wake it from standby but i'm guessing this won't unlock it, it will just activate the lockscreen.
those are all very nice features, yes. and the fingerprint scanner is also one of my reasons why i'm looking to upgrade.
i also think the camera results are good enough and that especially the camera app itself is nice (pro mode too).
i'm looking for a 5,5" screen with fingerprint scanner on the back (one reason why the oneplus2 doesn't match my interest even though otherwise it seems to be a nice phone too - its fingerprint sensor is on the home button like with the samsung models).
build quality is also great.
i usually would never go for a phone that doesn't have lots of custom roms available by the time i buy it. but somehow i think i'll be making an exception here. with an AOSP custom rom i would lose all the fingerprint sensor features, the camera app (its features and resulting images) and other EMUI features that i feel might come in handy (like you summed it up in your last post). so having this phone with an AOSP rom would make it sort of pointless in a way. the features we both miss from AOSP is the price we need to pay in order of getting all the mate s features. we just can't have it both i'm afraid
that's my plan. root it as soon as i get it. and once the marshmallow update is available i'd set it back, go stock, update to marshmallow and then root it again (hope it won't take long for someone to figure out how to root on marshmallow).
perhaps there are certain apps (root) that provide these features, instead of using the chinese mate s rom?
probably not out yet...
not really a gamer, so i don't worry too much about the limiting graphics performance.
yes indeed, thanx a whole lot, i appreciate it very much.
greetz,
v.
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No problem, your welcome.
I just wish there was more stuff going on for this device, ROMs, support, chat etc...its very quiet hardly anyone replies to things in this forum.
brumgav said:
No problem, your welcome.
I just wish there was more stuff going on for this device, ROMs, support, chat etc...its very quiet hardly anyone replies to things in this forum.
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Yeah, no development...
But it's understable: most developers are proabably located in USA and hardly anyone owns a mate s there. also the processor is kirin and not qualcomm. not much info coming from huawei about their kirin processors (which the developers would need).
i have another question about looks:
i saw that there are many themes available from huawei and that they change many parts of the user interface. what happens with these themes if i use an alternative launcher, say nova launcher?
will nova launcher override the background pic of the lockscreen or generally the way the lockscreen looks or does the lockscreen stay untouched by nova? same goes for the notifications that appear once you pull down the status bar. will the background of the notification "curtain" stay unchanged or does nova change different things here? colors and icons in settings also are changed when using different huawei themes - do they stay intact when using an alternative launcher?
All my questions short: does Nova (or any other alternative launcher for what it matters) only change what it is known for - leaving everything else the way you set it up with one of the hundred huawei themes? hope yoou know what i mean.
ok, for better demonstration: take the attached pic here for example. from left to right will only screen #2 and #3 be changed and the lockscreen #1, quick toggles #4 and whatsapp #5 remain unaltered with the chosen huawei theme still intact?
thx,
v.
vercetti said:
Yeah, no development...
But it's understable: most developers are proabably located in USA and hardly anyone owns a mate s there. also the processor is kirin and not qualcomm. not much info coming from huawei about their kirin processors (which the developers would need).
i have another question about looks:
i saw that there are many themes available from huawei and that they change many parts of the user interface. what happens with these themes if i use an alternative launcher, say nova launcher?
will nova launcher override the background pic of the lockscreen or generally the way the lockscreen looks or does the lockscreen stay untouched by nova? same goes for the notifications that appear once you pull down the status bar. will the background of the notification "curtain" stay unchanged or does nova change different things here? colors and icons in settings also are changed when using different huawei themes - do they stay intact when using an alternative launcher?
All my questions short: does Nova (or any other alternative launcher for what it matters) only change what it is known for - leaving everything else the way you set it up with one of the hundred huawei themes? hope yoou know what i mean.
ok, for better demonstration: take the attached pic here for example. from left to right will only screen #2 and #3 be changed and the lockscreen #1, quick toggles #4 and whatsapp #5 remain unaltered with the chosen huawei theme still intact?
thx,
v.
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I'll try and take a look at a different launcher and the themes thing later tonight when home from work.
Just a quick point though, the lockscreen notifications only work with a particular lockscreen type called Magazine Unlock... This is a type of lockscreen that cycles through a gallery of images....not sure if the images are customisable.
Here is a snapshot of a normal lockscreen with limited notification details compared with the magazine lockscreen. You can see one has the message details and the other is very basic with just an icon.
hey, now that sucks! only magazine lockscreen gives you more info on notifications? all the others simply show the icon?!? wow, that is really disappointing...
thx for trying later today, can't wait!
from a quick internet search I think it's possible to stop the switching pix in the magazine lockscreen. also which pix should be used. so you can actually control which and also how many (or only 1) are used.
The Magazine lockscreen doesn’t necessarily cycle background images. You can set whatever single image you want. I have it set to the same as my normal wallpaper, so it looks like it just changes icons when you unlock.
Sadly the lockscreen is one of the worst features of EMUI. You can't pull down the notification bar, you can't dismiss notifications by side swiping, and you can't touch to open the notifications. The notifications also doesn't quit fit the EMUI theme, they are more material design. Some notifications won't show at all (yes, I turned it on), like Soundcloud. You do however get music control for Spotify, but this is a completely different lockscreen (which can't be changed). And then your notifications won't show up. I don't know how Huawei managed to scrap the stock lockscreen, which works very well and looks nice, and replace it with something far worse. You can install lockscreen apps, but you can't use them with the fingerprint scanner, so it's not really an option imho.
The app switcher, which was mentioned in the OP, I actually prefer to the stock android one. The most useful feature is that you can long press the app switcher icon to return to the last app (like Alt+Tab). As far as I understand, this not a stock feature, but from Cyanogen.
vercetti said:
i have another question about looks:
i saw that there are many themes available from huawei and that they change many parts of the user interface. what happens with these themes if i use an alternative launcher, say nova launcher?
will nova launcher override the background pic of the lockscreen or generally the way the lockscreen looks or does the lockscreen stay untouched by nova? same goes for the notifications that appear once you pull down the status bar. will the background of the notification "curtain" stay unchanged or does nova change different things here? colors and icons in settings also are changed when using different huawei themes - do they stay intact when using an alternative launcher?
All my questions short: does Nova (or any other alternative launcher for what it matters) only change what it is known for - leaving everything else the way you set it up with one of the hundred huawei themes? hope yoou know what i mean.
ok, for better demonstration: take the attached pic here for example. from left to right will only screen #2 and #3 be changed and the lockscreen #1, quick toggles #4 and whatsapp #5 remain unaltered with the chosen huawei theme still intact?
thx,
v.
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I use Nova launcher. It will override the icons from the EMUI themes. Nova does however not influence the lockscreen at all, nor the pulldown meny, settings menues or other apps. So yes to your last question.
Thx for clarifying this suprman.
Lockscreen doesn't sound very good unfortunately...
which theme and lockscreen do you use?
I read in older Huawei threads that one can change the lockscreen style. "halo" style got rid of the 4 standard shortcuts on the bottom (which to my knowledge are also not modifiable...) and instead let's you set up 4 custom shortcuts. but maybe huawei did away with this feature nowadays.
which design (theme) do you use?
thx,
vercetti.
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The Magazine lockscreen doesn’t necessarily cycle background images. You can set whatever single image you want. I have it set to the same as my normal wallpaper, so it looks like it just changes icons when you unlock.
Sadly the lockscreen is one of the worst features of EMUI. You can't pull down the notification bar, you can't dismiss notifications by side swiping, and you can't touch to open the notifications. The notifications also doesn't quit fit the EMUI theme, they are more material design. Some notifications won't show at all (yes, I turned it on), like Soundcloud. You do however get music control for Spotify, but this is a completely different lockscreen (which can't be changed). And then your notifications won't show up. I don't know how Huawei managed to scrap the stock lockscreen, which works very well and looks nice, and replace it with something far worse. You can install lockscreen apps, but you can't use them with the fingerprint scanner, so it's not really an option imho.
The app switcher, which was mentioned in the OP, I actually prefer to the stock android one. The most useful feature is that you can long press the app switcher icon to return to the last app (like Alt+Tab). As far as I understand, this not a stock feature, but from Cyanogen.
I use Nova launcher. It will override the icons from the EMUI themes. Nova does however not influence the lockscreen at all, nor the pulldown meny, settings menues or other apps. So yes to your last question.
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Thanks for the comments, that summarised what I was going to so with the themes later.
Did you know you can open the app from the lockscreen by swiping it to the right...and then touching fingerprint sensor?