Yo folks. I am finally flying back to Toronto tomorrow after having been here in Italy for the past 4 years, and I am so pumped up ...
Anyways, I have got an Italian Samsung Galaxy S i9000 with 1900/2100 UMTS bands and the current baseband firmware is I9000XXJVU.
I was wondering if by flashing a Canadian baseband version my SGS perhaps would might give me 3G with Telus or Fido in Canada.
Is that something that could be done via sw or is rather something hardware involved??
Thanks
Do not flash a canadian baseband. There is no way to enable the 850 MHz band in your hardware.
However, in Toronto you will be able to get by by using only the 1900 MHz band. 850 MHz is mostly usefull for rural areas and/or basements.
So to answer your question, yes, it will work.
With Rogers/Fido, you will fall back to EDGE if you are out of the 1900 MHz UMTS coverage.
With Telus/Bell you fill loose signal if you are out of the 1900 MHz UMTS coverage.
zorxd said:
Do not flash a canadian baseband. There is no way to enable the 850 MHz band in your hardware.
However, in Toronto you will be able to get by by using only the 1900 MHz band. 850 MHz is mostly usefull for rural areas and/or basements.
So to answer your question, yes, it will work.
With Rogers/Fido, you will fall back to EDGE if you are out of the 1900 MHz UMTS coverage.
With Telus/Bell you fill loose signal if you are out of the 1900 MHz UMTS coverage.
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Cool mate.. didn't know some Canadians mobile ISP uses 1900mhz band for 3G.. I am going to get a find number today ..
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so i bought a unlocked phone on ebay bout a few months from now. i live in canada, also im in rogers network and everything works fine except my connection. i can only go 2g/edge speed but not 3g!! i have a t-mobile phone unlocked.. anybody know what i can do to get a 3g connection? do i need to install a new image or rom!!!!? please help
You may be out of luck on 3G. To the best of my knowledge, I believe Roger's 3G network runs on the 850 and 1900 MHz bands. However, the G1 runs on T-Mobile's 1700 and 2100 MHz bands. So Edge is the best you'll get (speed-wise).
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You may be out of luck on 3G. To the best of my knowledge, I believe Roger's 3G network runs on the 850 and 1900 MHz bands. However, the G1 runs on T-Mobile's 1700 and 2100 MHz bands. So Edge is the best you'll get (speed-wise).
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T-Mobile's rollout of UMTS in the US will focus on the 2100/1700 MHz bands, whereas UMTS coverage in Canada is being provided on the 850 MHz band of the Rogers Wireless network. I think 1900 was added later as well.
My HTC HD is edge (2G only). But I use a lot of WiFi when ever possible.
No, you'll need to go with a carrier like T-Mobile who support the same frequencies as the international version (I assume, I haven't checked them recently).
T-Mobile has a 2100 MHz band but it's paired with 1700 MHz for AWS so I'm not sure if that would actually work.
The 1900 MHz band would get reception from AT&T, although only in areas where they're using 1900, probably in the city.
That's just for 3G though. If you don't need 3G then T-Mobile and AT&T are both GSM carriers.
you will have 2g coverage with at&t and tmobile, and some 3g with at&t, when you have wcdma 1900 coverage... that's about it
I suck at knowing these radios. But, if you are visiting friends, what you can try to do is borrow their sims from different carriers for 5 minutes and see what works in the area(s) you visit. Just an out of the box thought.
AT&T is using 850/1900MHz 3G/UMTS bands (if i'm not mistaken),
i9000 international version supports 3G/UMTS 900/1900/2100 MHz, 850MHz not included.
so I think you are not able to use the 3G network, but the GSM should be working find although it's much slower.
Yup
That's why us USA folks have to wait for either a USA or Australian Variant of the device.
Thanks a lot for all your replies! I was hoping Samsung would be lazy and build the same radio in all of it's devices. Guess I was wrong. Still, thanks a lot, I'll see how well it works with 2G.
Is there still no way to change the UMTS band on European Galaxies so they work in the US?
Nope. You would have to hardware mod the phone.
They already do on 1900 att and thats that
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Is there still no way to change the UMTS band on European Galaxies so they work in the US?
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I know this is an old thread, but I was looking for information about what modems are for what phones and came across it and thought that as an AT&T customer, I should clarify some information.
Most of AT&T 3G network uses 1900 MHz. AT&T is also "overlaying" 850 MHz over their existing 1900 MHz to increase capacity. There may be some 850 MHz only locations, but I am not aware of any. For the most part, if your phone supports UMTS1900, you should be able to get 3G anywhere that AT&T's map shows 3G availability.
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I know this is an old thread, but I was looking for information about what modems are for what phones and came across it and thought that as an AT&T customer, I should clarify some information.
Most of AT&T 3G network uses 1900 MHz. AT&T is also "overlaying" 850 MHz over their existing 1900 MHz to increase capacity. There may be some 850 MHz only locations, but I am not aware of any. For the most part, if your phone supports UMTS1900, you should be able to get 3G anywhere that AT&T's map shows 3G availability.
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if you bought a i9000m from canada. you can use UGKC1 or UGJL2 modem to enable 850
im currently on at&t using i9000m with ZSJPG modem with 850mhz enabled
Just 1900Mhz isn't all that great, kinda slow and spotty. Don't get me wrong, it's usable, but 850 is significantly faster/better at least where I live.
I have an I9000M but occasionally use a modem without 850, and it's not as good.
While there are roundabout ways to get 850 on other modems, I usually use one of the Bell ones like JL2 or KC1.
I am using jl2. kc1 did not work reliably with my microcell and would instead keep trying to pull in weak signal thus sucking battery. As for 850mhz only.. most of the I93 corridor on new England is 850mhz only.
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T-Mobile has a 2100 MHz band but it's paired with 1700 MHz for AWS so I'm not sure if that would actually work.
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It's not paired. It's a single band that uses 1700 MHz for upload and 2100 MHz for download. Just like the international 2100 Mhz band uses 2100 MHz for download and 1900 MHz for upload.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
So just to clarify, my stock i9000m, running 2.3.3 and UGKG3 will get 3G in southern California on both the 850 and 1900 bands? UGKG3 can use both bands?
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hey,
i have a GT-I9000, and i'm trying to enable 850mhz band for 3g,
i flashed the jjjv5 modem which is 850enabled,
and selected the 850 band through *#2263#*, the second i select 850 i get no signal, does that mean my phone isn't 850mhz capable or does it mean there is no 850mhz reception in my area ?
galaxy s suports all bands
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
so you dont have 850 band in your area.
perhaps i was not clear - i'm trying to connect to 850mhz WCDMA band, not GPRS/GSM.
where do you live ? do you have the international i9000?
i live in israel, where we have a 850mhz/2100mhz 3g carrier (Pelephone)
the phone was purchased privately, not from the carrier.
i'm not quite sure about the phone version, the box states UMTS bands as 2100,1900,900.
the writing on the box and every document about the phone states GT-I9000.
does that mean that 850 3g band is not possible for me ?
i9000 doesnt support israel's 850 3g band, you can use 2100 instead which is suported by both ,phone and carrier
f3n0m3no said:
i9000 doesnt support israel's 850 3g band, you can use 2100 instead which is suported by both ,phone and carrier
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I'm also having a similar problem. im in Honduras with Tigo paid for 3g but only connecting to edge, i have the gingerbread xwjw5 build. I have a unlocked gt-i9000
only if you have the I9000T you can use the 850 band
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only if you have the I9000T you can use the 850 band
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well guess ill be replacing this phone lol
keen to swap? im in aus and got a i9000t and would like to stay on Optus :/
I cant find any way to get 3g, i only get GSM, which sucks. these are the frequencies in my country for 3g 850 900 2100
any chance i can get it?
thanks in mind for helpers
maorsapir said:
I cant find any way to get 3g, i only get GSM, which sucks. these are the frequencies in my country for 3g 850 900 2100
any chance i can get it?
thanks in mind for helpers
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The Sprint model can connect to the following frequencies (link):
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA: 800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE: Sprint: 1900 MHz
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I'm assuming that when you say "3G," you're referring to HSPA and when you say "GSM," you mean 2G/EDGE. This means that the Sprint model can only connect to the 2100 MHz frequency in your country for 3G. I don't know how it works in your country, but in the US, some carriers only transmit on certain frequencies in some markets (areas). It may be that your carrier is not transmitting 2100 MHz in your area.
For example, in the US, T-Mobile transmits 3G on 1900 and 1700/2100 MHz. However, it doesn't do this everywhere in the country. In some areas, it will transmit 3G on all of those frequencies, but in other areas, it might only transmit on 1900 MHz because it doesn't have the license to transmit on 1700/2100 MHz in that specific area.
Basically, you need to find out if your carrier is actually transmitting 3G on 2100 MHz in your area. What country are you in and what carrier are you using, just out of curiosity?
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The Sprint model can connect to the following frequencies
I'm assuming that when you say "3G," you're referring to HSPA and when you say "GSM," you mean 2G/EDGE. This means that the Sprint model can only connect to the 2100 MHz frequency in your country for 3G. I don't know how it works in your country, but in the US, some carriers only transmit on certain frequencies in some markets (areas). It may be that your carrier is not transmitting 2100 MHz in your area.
For example, in the US, T-Mobile transmits 3G on 1900 and 1700/2100 MHz. However, it doesn't do this everywhere in the country. In some areas, it will transmit 3G on all of those frequencies, but in other areas, it might only transmit on 1900 MHz because it doesn't have the license to transmit on 1700/2100 MHz in that specific area.
Basically, you need to find out if your carrier is actually transmitting 3G on 2100 MHz in your area. What country are you in and what carrier are you using, just out of curiosity?
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thank you for ur response, and no i figured out what the frequencies are in my country, and they are listed above,
but either way i live in israel and my carrier is youphone which works on orange network.
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I cant find any way to get 3g, i only get GSM, which sucks. these are the frequencies in my country for 3g 850 900 2100
any chance i can get it?
thanks in mind for helpers
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I thought it was only indicator man. Mine even show Gsm icon but I got Hsdpa speed here in my country speed download about 800KB/s to 950KB/s
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monyozt said:
I thought it was only indicator man. Mine even show Gsm icon but I got Hsdpa speed here in my country speed download about 800KB/s to 950KB/s
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thats odd, ive seen youtube videos with sprint htc one showing the H and 3G Icon
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thats odd, ive seen youtube videos with sprint htc one showing the H and 3G Icon
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if yiu use GSM sim, indicator show GSM.. maybe on youtube use another cdma carriers. mine if use gsm sim show GSM, when use CDMA show 3G
Hey, I need help running 3G over 2100Mhz frequency on unlocked Tmobile D415, Ive tried using both these codes to enable 3G over 2100 and its not working:
3845#8415#
*#*#4636#*#*
I read some where that T mobile offers a rom for europe and asia where 2100MHz for 3G is enabled, any help please?
I am pretty sure the T-Mobile variant does not support the 2100 MHz band used in Europe. The supported frequencies are only 850 MHz, AWS (1700/2100 MHz), and 1900 MHz. The 2100 MHz used for AWS 3G is not the same frequency range used for 2100 MHz in Europe.
This phone was not designed with the international market in mind, considering it's cost.
Here is a more detailed explanation: http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=99&p=1493
The FCC wanted to harmonize its "new" AWS spectrum with Europe's UMTS 2100 band, since both would be used for new "3G" phone service. Unfortunately, as you can see above, the lower half of Europe's UMTS 2100 band almost completely overlaps with our PCS band, so complete harmonization wasn't an option.
However, given the circumstances, the FCC did do a pretty good job of harmonizing AWS with the rest of the world. The upper part does line up perfectly with Europe's UMTS 2100 band, and the lower part does line up with Europe's DCS band. Therefore manufacturers already building GSM+WCDMA "world phones" actually won't have to support any additional frequency bands at all.
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