TP CM9 changelog and known issues? - TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Normally I don't have a problem locating this kind of info, but for TP CM9 it eludes me. I found the link with the tech speak generated list. But I need the info to be a bit more plain english. And couldn't find a known issues list. I would like to check this info to see if I would like to try it out on my TP.
Thanks much.

StoneRyno said:
Normally I don't have a problem locating this kind of info, but for TP CM9 it eludes me. I found the link with the tech speak generated list. But I need the info to be a bit more plain english. And couldn't find a known issues list. I would like to check this info to see if I would like to try it out on my TP.
Thanks much.
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Known issues are basically the camera and mic don't work, some folks have wifi issues and some don't... and some have issues with the audio acting up when waking from sleep... I myself am happy to say I don't have wifi or audio issues... but camera and mic are driver issues that may never get to work. All in all very stable though
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If camera and mic are the only problems then I see no reason not to give it a shot. I don't know if I would ever use them.I was concerned that it was missing core functionality making it something one wouldn't use as a daily OS and only switch over to it for test scenarios and then switch back. I have cm9 on my Samsung epic (the one with hw kb). Would the current latest nightly be the one to go with?

Just curious, why are the camera and mic drivers so difficult? I would have thought having them running on WebOS was at least some of the work. I guess porting said work to Android is a completely different ballgame.

I wonder if the wifi/audio issues are still being worked on tho? Or are those of us with those stuck with em forever?

The big thing for me was hardware video decoding. Alpha 1 fixed that for YouTube, and alpha 2 finished the fix for Netflix and others.
If you haven't already, check out the thread at rootzwiki.
I was using webOS by choice until CM9 came out. I switched to CM9, and have been using it as my daily driver since the very first Alpha. I never video chat, but if I wanted to I know I can just boot webOS.
Don't let people here tell you CM9 (or the Kangs thereof) are unstable. Some people continue to spew that we don't have a stable version of android purely because its called an alpha. I don't think it will graduate past alpha without camera/mic support, and that may never happen. Right now, without trying, I am sitting at 587 hours of up time on my TouchPad. I can't think of a better word to use than "stable."
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Known Issues that I can think of. I know some were mentioned above, but all in one place is good.
Broken, NO FIX:
1) No Microphone
2) No Camera
Partial Workarounds:
1) Audio gets noisy with screen off. Kinda workaround: Turn volume down, only happens at higher volume levels. Or set screen timeout longer/always on while playing audio. No complete fix.
2) Wi-Fi dies or doesn't reconnect. Some people never have a problem, others do. Workarounds: First, set WiFi to always on so it doesn't turn off with the screen. Second, try changing the channel on your router, or if you have 2.4ghz/5ghz switchable, try using the other. If Wi-Fi still dies, toggle it off and back on.
3) Some people report that if the TouchPad fully discharges to 0% they have trouble getting Android to charge properly. Others report that if you reboot the device with it plugged in, sometimes it won't charge. I've experienced neither problem, but the best advice is, charge before the device shuts off fully, and unplug the charger/usb while booting.
Broken, but Completely Fixable:
1) Random crashes. Install CPU Master and raise minimum CPU speed to 384 or 416 depending on which works for you, and crashes go away. Also, don't overclock too much.
Setup Issues:
1) DPI is at 160dpi stock. This works for most things, except a few tablet apps and games will not work properly. Setting DPI to 120dpi fixes everything, but the display quality is not ideal. 132dpi is ideal, but breaks the market after a day or two. Most people use 160dpi or 120dpi.
2) The default launcher, Trebuchet, is NOT compatible with the 4:3 aspect ratio of the TouchPad's screen if you use any DPI other than 160. Why something so easily fixable has not been fixed escapes me, but you will quickly find you need a new launcher. Go Launcher HD is one of a few that are very friendly to the TouchPad.
App Issues (not really issues but you probably want to know)
1) A few apps really, really, really are picky about the screen size and just won't scale right. (see Trebuchet notes above). One example is Politico HD - it forces 16:9 aspect ratio and thus gets cut off. Some apps simply refuse to run. Contacting the developers rarely works. This is probably less than 1% of the apps on the market, however.
2) Some developers simply are too strict on app compatibility on the market, and whitelist only select devices. Getting compatibility from these guys is a longshot. Best option is to install on another device, grab the APK or use Titanium Backup to move the app to the TouchPad.
3) Some games (notably Gameloft is the worst) enforce device compatibility checks within the program itself and it will refuse to run unless you masquerade as an approved device by hacking your build.prop... which is not normally recommended.
Did I miss anything anyone?

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[ROM Feedback] CM 6.0.2 (09/05/10)

To my knowledge, there is no thread dedicated to the new numerical releases of CM. Let us start with the newest, CM 6.0.2.
Please post your anecdotal data, including benchmarking scores, bugs, and glowing experiences. Perhaps this will serve as an unofficial repository for issues that prove consistent.
Note: After modifying my WiFi settings, specifically disabling sleep mode while the screen is off, I've encountered no related instability.
Mail FC Fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=394316&d=1283500340
Systemic issues yet to be addressed:
-LEDs do not work save for charging
-Outgoing calls initially drop before reconnecting
-Lockups or reboots, likely stemming from SetCPU
-OS does not recognize internal storage
Does this version fix the wifi not staying on?
Did you change your settings to Never sleep for wifi and just left the wifi on? Thanks...I want to try different settings and see if I can eliminate reboots/shut downs.
are we waiting for the nightly for the newest fixes like LEDs or is there gonna be a new release like .3?
OP you are a month behind (it's 9/3 not 8/3)
After fixing the mail fc, this rom is very stable except for one lingering issue. I guess it might be wifi related. I went all day without any issues with wifi on constantly (and bt) but when I left work (and seemingly as soon as I got out of wifi range) the phone was locked up with nothing on the screen, unresponsive. I had to pull the battery. This has happened since RC3 for me. I am going to try it without wifi over the weekend. Otherwise, BT streaming adio now works perfect, and the internal memory gets scanned for pics/images. I'm going to keep running it though as this wifi bug should be fixed soon.
not to mention we're commenting on it in the more official thread posted up by the author of the rom .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755690&page=111
however just to say it.. so far its running quite well, I found a correlation between wifi and BT causing issues with each other... commented on it in the other main thread after some extensive testing today.
seanmcd72 said:
OP you are a month behind (it's 9/3 not 8/3)
After fixing the mail fc, this rom is very stable except for one lingering issue. I guess it might be wifi related. I went all day without any issues with wifi on constantly (and bt) but when I left work (and seemingly as soon as I got out of wifi range) the phone was locked up with nothing on the screen, unresponsive. I had to pull the battery. This has happened since RC3 for me. I am going to try it without wifi over the weekend. Otherwise, BT streaming adio now works perfect, and the internal memory gets scanned for pics/images. I'm going to keep running it though as this wifi bug should be fixed soon.
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Yes, there definitely is still issues with wifi. The issue seems to be exacerbated when running SetCPU with a profile that underclocks when the screen is turned off. Since I've stopped using SetCPU I havent had a single freeze, although I might have just gotten lucky so far.
SetCPU will not run at startup for me, even with the option checked to start at boot. I had to set Tasker to run it at boot as a workaround.
When phone is in Airplane mode I still am able to recieve text messages.
Fuzzy_Dunlop said:
Yes, there definitely is still issues with wifi. The issue seems to be exacerbated when running SetCPU with a profile that underclocks when the screen is turned off. Since I've stopped using SetCPU I havent had a single freeze, although I might have just gotten lucky so far.
SetCPU will not run at startup for me, even with the option checked to start at boot. I had to set Tasker to run it at boot as a workaround.
When phone is in Airplane mode I still am able to recieve text messages.
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I would have to second the issue with SetCPU. As soon as I overclocked it and began using the rom I noticed the phone would get hot abnormally fast and would reboot a few times within the first few hours. Not sure what is going on here as it worked fine on the RC.
Fuzzy_Dunlop said:
Yes, there definitely is still issues with wifi. The issue seems to be exacerbated when running SetCPU with a profile that underclocks when the screen is turned off. Since I've stopped using SetCPU I havent had a single freeze, although I might have just gotten lucky so far.
SetCPU will not run at startup for me, even with the option checked to start at boot. I had to set Tasker to run it at boot as a workaround.
When phone is in Airplane mode I still am able to recieve text messages.
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I didn't even notice setcpu till you said that. Phone was back to 998mhz
Sent from my INCREDIBLE using XDA app
My phone doesn't vibrate when I receive an incoming call when the phone is set to vibrate.
Has anyone else noticed the keyboard lag when using the Messaging app? Browser and this xda app seem to work fine with no lag..
Other than that, smooth.
dnoyeb said:
not to mention we're commenting on it in the more official thread posted up by the author of the rom .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755690&page=111
however just to say it.. so far its running quite well, I found a correlation between wifi and BT causing issues with each other... commented on it in the other main thread after some extensive testing today.
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I believe the thread referenced by you refers to RC3, whereas I am specifically looking for feedback on the newest numerical releases of CM 6 for the incredible.
Update: leaving battery percentage at 91 before bed with system panel running, will see whats eating up the most juice. So far stable n fast with no issues (except LCDs).
I get random reboots and freezes every thirty minutes if so on a fresh wipe of 6.0.3 I tried with setcpu and without but always with the built in hotspot running. Same issue since RC3
LED notifications dont work. LauncherPro Plus FCs on every reboot, other then those things im good with it, great wallpapers , great rom
Battery life is terrible compared to sky raider with king kernel. Once we get some real kernels for this rom it should be better...
Panda Fuzz said:
Battery life is terrible compared to sky raider with king kernel. Once we get some real kernels for this rom it should be better...
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And you know the issue is the kernel because...?
mp3sum said:
I believe the thread referenced by you refers to RC3, whereas I am specifically looking for feedback on the newest numerical releases of CM 6 for the incredible.
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actually if you read the thread, you'll see koush himself is in there dealing with 6.0.2, offering up kernels and fixes...
he just hasn't updated the topic title.
Okay this may be a stupid question but how do I apply the mail fix?
mp3sum said:
Update: leaving battery percentage at 91 before bed with system panel running, will see whats eating up the most juice. So far stable n fast with no issues (except LCDs).
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Battery life was down to 81% 11 hours later, and the phone had been placed in Airplane mode while running Gentle Alarm and a few widgets (no auto task killer).
Breakdown:
System 0.6%
System Processes 0.3%
System Panel 0.3%
android.process.acore 0.1%
Plus several honorable mentions with 0.0%. I have yet to perform this experiment with Ruby or ID.

[Q] Where is RC1-7.0.0-11.02.18 CM7 for Milestone?

I see in the Dev forum that the first RC1 of Cyanogenmod 7 for Milestone is available, but when I go to download it here, it doesn't seem to be available. I guess it would be called update-cm-7.0.0-RC1-0.07-11.02.18-Milestone-signed.zip but that last one available was the 11.02.15 release. Does anyone know whether the RC1-7.0.0-11.02.18 has been withdrawn for some reason?
I've been testing each and every build with good success, so I'm really keen to try the new one. I would ask in the dev forum, but I'm relatively new at the XDA forum and am therefore not eligible to post in it.
SF
Well, I eventually found the correct download link at https://github.com/downloads/nadlabak/android/update-cm-7.0.0-RC1-0.07-11.02.18-Milestone-signed.zip
Thanks,
SF
How is it working out so far? I've recently just started using cm6 but I don't want to install too much / get invested in it if CM7 is solid enough to use day 2 day.
FANdroid said:
How is it working out so far? I've recently just started using cm6 but I don't want to install too much / get invested in it if CM7 is solid enough to use day 2 day.
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I would stick with cm6 for now. CM7 could use many improvements and as of now is very memory hungry (I was on the feb.10 release). CM7, however, has many bug fixes that are not implemented in cm6, for example, the wifi fix (wasn't working with some n routers before I think [depending on the security type or something] ) and it seems as though there is also the random freeze + random reboot fix (using another, older kernel) I would not switch to CM7, until many bugs are fixed. Also some games don't work.
FANdroid said:
How is it working out so far? I've recently just started using cm6 but I don't want to install too much / get invested in it if CM7 is solid enough to use day 2 day.
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It's great. But video playing not working for me.
So I installed CM7 to try it out, and on RC1 my videos play fine (widescreen) using the included "Video" app. Well most of them do, one of them is displayed 4:3 for some reason?
I'm finding that it works quite well. Battery life is good, but there are a few bugs that need working out. CM6 is probably better if you need your phone to be 100% reliable, but I like to push the boundaries and play around.
Bugs or missing features so far:
- Button lights and keyboard backlight not working properly for me (and at least one other user here)
- Auto backlight brightness not working for me at all
- Volume button swapping/remapping not yet implemented, so that in lanscape mode left means louder (which is the wrong way round for me)
- Memory usage is a problem, so that Launcher pro keeps having to re-initialise
- Camera is VERY unreliable
- Getting random reboots and lockups, especially in Google Maps
Still, things are getting better with every release and I can always go back to CM6 if I want, since I made a Nandroid backup in OpenRecovery before I installed the CM7 update. I've just installed the RC2 update, so lets see how that goes...
SF

[Q] Touchscreen sensitivity issues in CM9/CM10 (but not webOS)... any advice?

Hello, I am having some touchscreen problems with CM9 and 10, but not with webOS. Namely, I think that the tablet is detecting double or even triple taps when none are present.
In CM9, when I execute a longpress (to move an app for example), the tablet just kind of... spazzes out, and in general nothing happens. In CM10 it also does this, and almost everytime, it starts whatever app I was pressing on.
Also, when I try to type in the CM10 keyboard, 2-4 characters are being entered at a time, unless I touch incredibly lightly, and even then, I will often get two.
There are other symptoms along these lines, like trying to pull up the notifications, etc. This does not appear to be isolated to any one portion of the screen, it is happening everywhere I could check it.
This CM9 versions I have tried are the nightly 0715, and whatever the latest nightly was about a week ago. The CM10 version I am using is jcsullins' 12/16.
As stated, I have zero issues in webOS.
Is there any way to change the touch sensitivity? Am I a moron and doing something wrong?
Thank you for your help/advice.
To clarify, I think this might be two separate issues...
I'm not as concerned with the CM9 issue, as it is only a mild annoyance and everything else is outstanding. CM10 is virtually unusable, however, so I'm hoping someone can help me out there.
thatdumbguy said:
Hello, I am having some touchscreen problems with CM9 and 10, but not with webOS. Namely, I think that the tablet is detecting double or even triple taps when none are present.
In CM9, when I execute a longpress (to move an app for example), the tablet just kind of... spazzes out, and in general nothing happens. In CM10 it also does this, and almost everytime, it starts whatever app I was pressing on.
Also, when I try to type in the CM10 keyboard, 2-4 characters are being entered at a time, unless I touch incredibly lightly, and even then, I will often get two.
There are other symptoms along these lines, like trying to pull up the notifications, etc. This does not appear to be isolated to any one portion of the screen, it is happening everywhere I could check it.
This CM9 versions I have tried are the nightly 0715, and whatever the latest nightly was about a week ago. The CM10 version I am using is jcsullins' 12/16.
As stated, I have zero issues in webOS.
Is there any way to change the touch sensitivity? Am I a moron and doing something wrong?
Thank you for your help/advice.
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I've not had this issue, but this might help. Go here : http://goo.im/devs/jcsullins/cmtouchpad/testing
Download the touch pressure utility (should be the last one) and flash it. Hope it helps.
Good luck.
As an update, after shelving the touchpad for a few months, I have revisited it, and, after doing a clean install of jcsullins' CM10.1 w/BT Fix (20130808), the same issues as above still persist. I've done the following, although I didn't really expect most of them to work:
Switching to stylus mode (no difference)
Changing the accessibility settings for touch & hold delay
Even went so far as to install another launcher (nova) to ensure it wasn't trebuchet (not that I think it was)
Same for the keyboard
This has never been an issue I've seen in webOS... additionally, I don't remember ever having any issues in CM7 either. I did play with webOS for some time today to make sure it wasn't some kind of hardware failure between now and the last time I used it frequently, but I failed to reproduce the problem there.
Is there any light someone can shed on the subject? Thanks!
Thanks for that Chicle_11... I don't know why I failed to mention it, but I did also try the patches with CM9, but it is to my understanding that they were rolled into cm9 nightlies at some point?
I wonder if I could be having a minor hardware issue that just isn't severe enough to display in webOS, because I can't seem to find anything else about this, especially the keyboard problem with CM10. Its bizaar for sure.
Started experiencing the same issues after upgrading from cm9
I recently upgraded from cm9 to cm10.2 and immediately noticed this issue. There were no such issues with cm9. When swyping on the keyboard (any - Google, Swype, etc.), the system registers that I lifted my finger, and so garbage gets typed - you can also see the effect in the trace. When typing instead, letters sometimes double-up for a single press. When playing games like PvZ2, dragging a plant results in a release of the plant before I've lifted my finger, and sometimes the plant gets planted across the screen from where my finger is pressing.

[Q] Bugs, bugs, bugs

Dear all,
it is my first try to run cyanogenmod (10.1 Rel 7) on my SGS+. But when using it, I immediately found plenty of issues:
- Navigation is only partially working. After a while the maps starts jumping around and dark semi transparent overlay sections appear so that one cannot see the full map. In the forum I found the hint to deactivate Dithering. Done. Only little improvement.
- Alarm clock is not working when the phone is turned off.
- Screen goes off after dialing a number (workaround: lift phone to the ear and lower it back down -> screen is on again).
- No FM radio app (in comparison to the stock rom).
- Skype video is still upside down (as with stock rom).
My colleagues were very enthusiastic about cyanogen mod. In contrast, I haven't really detected the advantages. Are the developpers still working on the issues? Is there anything I can do to support you guys?
To answer your queries:
-Navigation- use the bug reporting method on the CM10.1 forums and submit it as a bug report either in the S CM10.1 thread or on JIRA. More details are given in the CM10.1 thread OP.
-This feature doesn't work even on stock. Its not a bug, and its not just CM10.1. MIUI allows this apparently however.
-This is normal, not a bug either. When you call someone the screen goes off because you're going to lift it to your ear anyway. The 'workaround' is actually the proximity sensor, and a similar thing happens on stock roms. The only solution to this is to press a button when the screen initially turns off.
-FM Radio isn't included in CM builds by default, as the API needed for it needs some intense changes made to it. There's Spirit FM if you want to run the risk. Check out the thread for more information.
-Skype on CM10.x is a known issue
Try CM10.2 and see if that helps the first issue, if not, report it using the methods in the CM threads. Otherwise everything else is as normal/known.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk HD
Irrespective of a few bugs there are definitely a number of advantages to using CM.
Have you noticed how smooth CM10.1 is? For me it's smoother than stock. Definitely a plus.
The pre-installed applications are more polished/work better and you actually have control over them. Don't like one? You can remove it. Unlike stock where you are stuck with a lot of junk (unless you have rooted your phone).
Bugfixes! We're no longer stuck with a 2 year old version of an OS for which we don't receive any bugfixes.
Customizability. CM gives you a lot more features to have your phone just the way you want it.
Overclocking and undervolting.
Not everyone had this problem, but my phone took > 5 minutes to get a GPS fix on stock. It takes < 10 seconds on CM.
And that's just what I came up with in a few minutes. Yes, there will be a few bugs and features which you think are weird (like the screen turning off when you make a call) but you'll find that on any piece of software. If you personally feel CM is a downgrade then it's your right to think so and go back to stock ROM. That doesn't mean the average xda-user is going to agree with you though.
(I think there are also a few ROMs based on the stock 2.3.6 versions, but since I've never used them I wouldn't know which ones are worth trying.)

Invisiblek's 4.4 12-30-13 Nightly Impression

I can't post this on the Milaq thread (where most of the invisiblek discussion is) so I thought I would post it here to give anyone else a heads up.
The Good:
It's a fairly stable kernel and all my apps run seemingly just fine. I mean I've only been running it about 5 hours but not a single FC. I did have a weird bootup glitch that locked it up right away after install but after that I loaded all the apps just fine. Super exciting to see it so far!
The Bad:
Screen pixelation/tearing from left to right, especailly on grey backgrounds. Something is up with the video driver/gpu voltage. Certain icons like the Settings sprocket will have a few pixels that will flash and other times you'll see lines all the way across the screen. It might be color specific. I was playing Quadropus Rampage and never noticed it but then went back to the home screen or typing an e-mail and it's very much there.
Pandora plays music fine. If you turn off the screen while playing, horrific things happen like ZZZZZZZZZZZZ and then hard lock. I didn't like that station anyway..
The "OK Google" voice command doesn't seem to work though voice typing does. I'm pretty sure this worked on the Milaq build of the same date.
It's a bit slow and CPU is stuck to 1188. There is a bit of a lag switching apps but I don't notice any core functions slow.
The Different:
The home button doesn't wake up the TP. Only the power button.
Can't say anything about battery life quite yet but I'll keep a gander on it. Battery hasn't been a super concern of mine because I plug it in ever night
The Different:
The typical 15 second reset switch mult-button key is more like 3 seconds now. I like this a lot better.
Positive:
--backup and restore work
--it is getting much better.
Negatives:
--Microphone does not work, so I could not use any vioce search or voice dialer/sound recorder.
--Free game "F.S. Xtreme" has black box issue.
--Youtube still has reboot issue.
--TV streams app "syncbak" has similar reboot issue.
My wifi keeps shutting off and won't restart without reboot. Not even sleeping. Other than that it runs nicely.
Switched to milaq's 3.0 kernel.
The CPU is pre-configured to run at much higher 1.5Ghz, yet the 3.0 rom is still able to run very stable.
I am waiting for camera fix to enable video calls.
Since both 3.0/3.4 rom are using the same CWM, it makes 3.0/3.4 rom switch very easy.
Waiting on Flintmans as it is the only non data media rom. Not a big fan of all the repartitioning. For several reasons. Good to see choices still available. God bless the developers for all their time and effort. Wish I could do what they do.
goog888 said:
Switched to milaq's 3.0 kernel.
The CPU is pre-configured to run at much higher 1.5Ghz, yet the 3.0 rom is still able to run very stable.
I am waiting for camera fix to enable video calls.
Since both 3.0/3.4 rom are using the same CWM, it makes 3.0/3.4 rom switch very easy.
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I flashed 3.4 rom (0103) over 3.0, and tried briefly.
--3.4 rom seems running OK, except it runs relatively slower at 1.1Ghz.
--camera is not working on both 3.0/3.4 rom.
--Free game "F.S. Xtreme" seems not compatible with 3.x kernel. It also cannot run on Samsung S3.
Moody66 said:
My wifi keeps shutting off and won't restart without reboot. Not even sleeping. Other than that it runs nicely.
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Turn off WiFi Optimization in settings.
EbolaCola said:
Turn off WiFi Optimization in settings.
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Still does it. Did that soon as rom booted as per the Op.
Moody66 said:
My wifi keeps shutting off and won't restart without reboot. Not even sleeping. Other than that it runs nicely.
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Same here. Also double check that the setting took. I swear I unchecked it and it went back or didn't take the first time. Perhaps give it a toggle or two. I also noticed that if wifi turns off, it won't turn back on.
Anyone else having a problem with rebooting from within CM and it just goes to a blank screen?
Dirty flashed to the 1/5 nigthly. Reboot issues seems gone now, or just that a reflash has fixed mine specifically.
Just noticed that there is an official thread over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2592909
Hopefully I can post there too!
sokratz said:
Just noticed that there is an official thread over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2592909
Hopefully I can post there too!
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Negative on the posting. I'm still seeing the bzzzz when the screen shuts off while playing music. Have disabled the mic (I think). Curious that nobody on that thread has reported that quite yet.
I'm very excited to see all of this development on our old TPs! I'm currently running Milaq's latest 3.0 kernel test build. It is running almost perfectly for me! I cannot wait for 3.4 to finish getting smoothed out. I've tried Invisiblek's builds out, and they currently seem a little laggy compared to Milaq's 3.0 test build. Great work all around though! Thanks to Invisiblek, Flintman, Milaq, JCSullins, Dorregary, and all of the others that I haven't mentioned who have contributed so much of their time and skill toward keeping our Touchpads relevant, even competitive with the current crop of tablets on the market!
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