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how to make a full backup using titanium backup?

Hi
I installed titanium backup and now I want to backup the following items:
- All applications
- All System data like wireless passwords, etc
- All user data like contacts, sms, mms, dictionary and so on.
Can you please let me know which menu I should use?
thanks.

legolas.w said:
Hi
I installed titanium backup and now I want to backup the following items:
- All applications
- All System data like wireless passwords, etc
- All user data like contacts, sms, mms, dictionary and so on.
Can you please let me know which menu I should use?
thanks.
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Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps + system data

Thank you, Now I can install new ROMs with no worry about my SMS and MMS messages being lost.

legolas.w said:
Thank you, Now I can install new ROMs with no worry about my SMS and MMS messages being lost.
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I also

Will batch work on the TB free version?

If I remember correctly - in free version you can batch backup, but you can't batch restore, or the batch restore is limited speed.

When you batch restore with the free version, you have to confirm each one. Fun.

harolds said:
Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps + system data
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Thanks Man

Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps + system data : is there any difference between this and a nandroid backup? i mean does it make an image with EVERYTHING you have on your phone?

No it doesn't make an image of everything on the phone like a nandroid backup

A nandroid backup backs up the system, data, cache, and a few other things like ext and recovery depending on how you set it but a titanium backup just backs up apps and data (which are on the data and cache partitions).

You can also create an update.zip to put in your recovery folder and flash that way too. You can set a schedule to back up new, new versions or all. IMHO, pay the money. It has helped me in several instances. You can convert system to data or vice versa, un/attach apps to market and my favorite is you can clean your Dex right from the app.

Somewhere way back I thought folks were having issues restoring System with TB and recommended just doing apps/data--
Right or Wrong?
I like MyBackUp Pro as a quicker (non-nandroid) bu of system/sms/mms/call logs/home screens/settings etc
Ken

rugmankc said:
Somewhere way back I thought folks were having issues restoring System with TB and recommended just doing apps/data--
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Well, the issue is that some of the restored settings were conflicting with what was in there. If you restore system back to the same version (of CM or Android), then it should be problem free. But if you are restoring between nightlies of CM or major releases of stock, then options may have changed and restoring *can* cause conflicts that result in funky operations or bootloops. This doesn't happen all the time, but it has happened enough to me that I don't recommend it.
My recommendation is to just backup all your apps and app data (I also include TB's backup of wifi access points, bluetooth pairings, google accounts, call logs and sms messages). It really doesn't take too long to go and check all your settings. Plus it gives you the opportunity to see what new features were added.
And in all honesty, I am not sure MyBackup Pro would be any different in the above... both just backup the data and restore it. I think if one were to cause an issue, the other one would as well.

Thanks for info bass,
I never restore system with TB, only backup/restore apps--no issues
I started using My BackUp before rooted, so as to have a bu of things if root went wrong. Just kept using it
Never had an issue restoring system with My BackUp, even after a month of nightlies
Main thing I like it for is Home Screens--saves time after fresh flash
Ken

rugmankc said:
Main thing I like it for is Home Screens--saves time after fresh flash
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That is definitely a benefit to using a 3rd-party launcher. I use ADW EX and everything for that app is saved in the app data, so as soon as I restore the app I am back to normal (well, except for my widgets and the background, but there are only two widgets that I use). But I do definitely sympathize on not wanting to redo all your settings. I hate it when I forget something simple like changing the wifi back to never turn off.

Agreed--
I use ADW with CMN's but not EX. Haven't looked real close at its restore capabilities. But, My Back Up does CM/Sense/MIUI restores with Home Screens with no problems
Just comfortable with it--

titanium backup restored my adw ex just fine minus the widgets.

thank you i was looking for that.

Flashing-Restoring-Titanium Backup-Serendipity

I am going to reflash Serendipity 3.5.2 tonight. I backed up with MyBackupPro, but it didn't restore all of my apps and data - but SMS worked with that backup. I then restored my TB and my texting problem returned - I can't send any texts, but I can receive them. I get a messaging forced closed every time I try to send one.
My question is, can I go through that TB backup somehow and delete any reference to messaging and restore after that? How would one go through their backup and make this change? I want to restore with TB because it did a better job, but I don't want the problem back. Suggestions??

TiBu
I'd recommend Titanium Backup.
When you restore, only restore "Missing apps with data".
Restoring SMS stuff is a "system" function, and will not be restored. Then, you can go thru the list and VERY SELECTIVELY pick system items you do want restored, such as wifi access points, widgets, accounts, etc.

alabamaroping said:
I'd recommend Titanium Backup.
When you restore, only restore "Missing apps with data".
Restoring SMS stuff is a "system" function, and will not be restored. Then, you can go thru the list and VERY SELECTIVELY pick system items you do want restored, such as wifi access points, widgets, accounts, etc.
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Thank you for your help. What I need to know is how to selectively pick system items?
The other thing is I selected 'missing apps with data, yet still this messaging problem came back. I have deleted GO SMS completely, I'm not convinced it didn't cause my problems. I ran the batch operation to delete the deleted apps from the backup. I would really like to get rid of anything messaging before I restore this time, if that's possible. I see several possibilities:
com.android.mms-20110111-144642.properties
com.android.mms-20110111-144642.tar.gz
com.jb.mms-3accf7136245183972901f8fb5b026fb.apk.gz
com.jb.mms-55b6dd5aa915f6158b7664812f02edb1.apk.gz
com.jb.mms-20110111-144608.properties
com.jb.mms-20110111-144608.tar.gz
com.jb.mms-20110114-070110.properties
com.jb.mms-20110114-070110.tar.gz
com.jb.mms.theme.twothousandeleven3-7941f117b495bed787c418c01fffba93.apk.gz
com.jb.mms.theme.twothousandeleven3-20110111-144614.properties
com.jb.mms.theme.twothousandeleven3-20110111-144614.tar.gz
com.jb.mms.theme.twothousandelevenone-9144ecf9015eafef1a7a08e2cf02babb.apk.gz
com.jb.mms.theme.twothousandelevenone-20110111-144614.properties
com.jb.mms.theme.twothousandelevenone-20110111-144614.tar.gz
I believe the theme ones are for GO SMS, so they're probably ok to not bother with, but those first eight I think need to go. Can I delete them within TB somehow?

In TiBu system apps are red, system data is green, 3rd party is white.
The only reason to restore a system app is if you uninstalled it. Don't restore a system app from a previous ROM on a newer ROM. Don't restore system data from older Android versions (i.e. 2.1 -> 2.2) because the data format may be different. If you know you need settings for a system app, restore data only. Test it, and if it fails, go back and delete only data. There's a "Wipe data" for those.
The green ones are what you're most likely interested in. Tap one, hit restore. It's that easy. If you don't know what it does, stop there, exit TiBu and test everything to find what changed. If something stops working, go back to that item in TiBu and uninstall it (Green items only) and it should work again.
But before doing any of that, a nandroid backup will save lots of time of you crash the phone.

Ok, so basically I'd have to go through and restore one by one - tedious, but may be necessary. I was hoping I'd be able to delete files from the backup and then run the batch. Well, to keep texting I think that's what I'll have to do. I do have a Nandroid backup of my Assonance installation (but that may have the texting problem in it, too, it started on Assonance). Thank you so much for the help!

reinbeau said:
Ok, so basically I'd have to go through and restore one by one - tedious, but may be necessary. I was hoping I'd be able to delete files from the backup and then run the batch. Well, to keep texting I think that's what I'll have to do. I do have a Nandroid backup of my Assonance installation (but that may have the texting problem in it, too, it started on Assonance). Thank you so much for the help!
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I always restore"all missing apps with data". Then I selectively restore wifi access points and widgets. Sometimes the widgets don't restore properly, but I've never had it cause any problems.

k2snowboards88 said:
I always restore"all missing apps with data". Then I selectively restore wifi access points and widgets. Sometimes the widgets don't restore properly, but I've never had it cause any problems.
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ee, that's the problem, I didn't restore system data, I restored apps and data - and somehow my previous texting problem appeared again. When I flashed last night, texting worked. Eureka, I was thrilled. But all of my stuff wasn't back. I set the path for my TB backup on my external card, did my restore, and no more texting. Very frustrating. I want my data, but I may end up starting from scratch, or going one by one as CuriousTech has suggested.

Right. It's really pretty quick once you get the hang of it.
Backup all user apps + system data.
Restore missing apps with data. Go through and uncheck anything you don't need, then let it run. Often times I do a restore of app+data of apps I know have important data, then again with app only of games and such, but it's not necessary.
Then manually go through the green items.

[Q] Changing ROM's, TiBackup procedure

Hello,
I've been running Perception 10.1 for quite a while now. There's really nothing wrong with it, I guess I'm just bored. I'm thinking about putting CM7 on my phone.
Everytime I've changed ROMs in the past I've tried to do a NAND backup with Rom Manager and everytime I install the new ROM on there and then I do a NAND restore, none of the apps come over with it and I usually have problems and crashes. So, to me, CWM is basically worthless. I have made tons of backups and not one single one of them restored without errors and crashes. Worst program ever.
So, now I have bought the Pro version of Titanium Backup. I'd like to do a full backup so that way when I finish the flashing process to get my new ROM on there, I can just use that to restore all my apps and settings. I'd hate to have to go and download all my apps all over again, I have over 100 on there now.
What type of backup should I do with Titanium Backup so that migrating to a new ROM and restoring is as seamless as possible?
Thanks!

derek4484 said:
Hello,
I've been running Perception 10.1 for quite a while now. There's really nothing wrong with it, I guess I'm just bored. I'm thinking about putting CM7 on my phone.
Everytime I've changed ROMs in the past I've tried to do a NAND backup with Rom Manager and everytime I install the new ROM on there and then I do a NAND restore, none of the apps come over with it and I usually have problems and crashes. So, to me, CWM is basically worthless. I have made tons of backups and not one single one of them restored without errors and crashes. Worst program ever.
So, now I have bought the Pro version of Titanium Backup. I'd like to do a full backup so that way when I finish the flashing process to get my new ROM on there, I can just use that to restore all my apps and settings. I'd hate to have to go and download all my apps all over again, I have over 100 on there now.
What type of backup should I do with Titanium Backup so that migrating to a new ROM and restoring is as seamless as possible?
Thanks!
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Go on Backup & restore, open the menu and select batch.
Run: Backup all user apps + system data.
Once you restore although, don't restore system data as it will mess up with your new ROM.

BWolf56 said:
Go on Backup & restore, open the menu and select batch.
Run: Backup all user apps + system data.
Once you restore although, don't restore system data as it will mess up with your new ROM.
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Ok, thanks. Let me ask you a question then... You say to run the batch backup all user apps + system data, but only run the restore user apps. Why? Is there a difference between doing it your way, and just running the batch backup user apps, then doing the batch restore user apps? What is the purpose of backing up system data, if its not going to be restored? Just curious why to backup the system data if not restoring it. I think I have read somewhere else to not restore the system data on the new ROM cause it'll cheese it up.
Titanium Backup seems like a powerful program, although I havent been able to find any user manual or really anywhere that details what all the options do.

if going between different roms dont do all system data only the green ones and user apps. not all system data is compatible between different frameworks and options
create a label for "my sys data" and assign the green ones to it.
make sure to have tibu backup its settings as well in the settings menu.

derek4484 said:
Ok, thanks. Let me ask you a question then... You say to run the batch backup all user apps + system data, but only run the restore user apps. Why? Is there a difference between doing it your way, and just running the batch backup user apps, then doing the batch restore user apps? What is the purpose of backing up system data, if its not going to be restored? Just curious why to backup the system data if not restoring it. I think I have read somewhere else to not restore the system data on the new ROM cause it'll cheese it up.
Titanium Backup seems like a powerful program, although I havent been able to find any user manual or really anywhere that details what all the options do.
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Simply cause you want a full backup if u ever wanna go back to a certain ROM. Also, doing a full backup is safer, the program won't miss anything and when you restore your apps, you can restore your apps's data (which I personnaly love).
You don't have to backup your system data, I simply suggest it as you never know if you'll change your mind

I think backing up system data is just a precaution in case something goes wrong.

Trusselo said:
if going between different roms dont do all system data only the green ones and user apps.
create a label for "my sys data" and assign the green ones to it.
make sure to have tibu backup its settings as well in the settings menu.
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Trusselo, you're being too helpful lol - everywhere I try to help some1, you're right there doing so too
Love to see ppl with experience still helping the newbie with patience

Just back up user apps and data (also dialer storage for texts).
I never make full backups of my rom. Just Tibu backups for apps.

qwertyaas said:
Just back up user apps and data (also dialer storage for texts).
I never make full backups of my rom. Just Tibu backups for apps.
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@ OP - I believe it's up to you. Full backup is safer if something goes wrong but not necessary as mentionned by others. I do it cause I can
The only thing to remember, if that's what you decide to do, is to not restore system data if you flash a different ROM.

Ok, I got it. Thanks to you all.

For future reference, a NAND backup in CWM is not worthless, you are just using it wrong.
It is not meant to restore apps/data it is a complete image of your phone as it was when you took the backup. it is designed so that you can jump between roms easily by just restoring nandroids of your setups. it is not and dont think it was ever designed to 'restore apps' but restore the entire system. your problems before with it were likely because you were trying to go between 2.1 and 2.2 roms? a nandroid does not backup the kernel or modem so it makes it a little difficult to bounce between 2.1/2.2 etc there are ways, but its just easier to start fresh and restore a Titanium backup batch job

regarding Tibu and nandroid.
Full system / everything backup is good for backing up your system AS IS if you are going to mess around with what you have or try a rom for a few hours but want to go back to exactly how it was.
thats why the green ones are green in tibu its the bare minimum that will work across all roms.
@Bwolf56 - ya im on here alot. just finishing coming off comp for nearly taking my thumb right off.
i try to help. but get into crap often... still try to help regardless!

Something I've learned from flashing you can NEVER have too many backups.
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What is the best backup method?

Hi guys, I am not a very "backup" guy, I almost wipe everytime I flash a rom to avoid problems.
But I am getting tired of having to do everyhting (arranging icons , put some wifi passwords, etc), what is the best way to backup that doesn't hassle with new roms?
Titanium backup?I even have the full version (bought it more do delete some apps).
Or HTC Backup?
I am "afraid" of backing up and overwriting newer version of apps without older ones for example, is there a "script" for importing only settings of something?

skinniezinho said:
Hi guys, I am not a very "backup" guy, I almost wipe everytime I flash a rom to avoid problems.
But I am getting tired of having to do everyhting (arranging icons , put some wifi passwords, etc), what is the best way to backup that doesn't hassle with new roms?
Titanium backup?I even have the full version (bought it more do delete some apps).
Or HTC Backup?
I am "afraid" of backing up and overwriting newer version of apps without older ones for example, is there a "script" for importing only settings of something?
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I use titanium, but I NEVER restore apps anymore with TB because I suspect battery drain will occur if I do. I reinstall them from market. after I started doing this I get perfect battery life. The only thing I restore is apps data only. Remember that TB backs up both app with its data and settings. Then you can choose what to restore, app, data or both.
SMS and WIFI access points I also backup with titanium.
As for launcher I use Nova. Which has its own backup solution. you save your layout, icons.. pretty much everything except some widgets to SD. On the other hand If you love sense launcher, I don't know if it still works, but you can try back it up with TB. Used to work on previous Android OS.
I guess there are easier ways, but I have never bothered. HTC backup I have never tried. Don't trust solutions like these anyways.
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Does Smsung backup in Pie backups app data or just the aps (apk files)?

I want to do a factory reset. And the app doesn't save data on cloud.
Will built in backup/restore work in my case?

I found my app in Google Drive backup folder. So at least the app I am interested is safe.
But still need an answer regarding how Samsung backup works.
Thanks!

Not sure about Smart Switch but the normal backup that you restore when you setup your phone initially, does not backup app data or the APK. It just reinstalls from the Playstore.

bat0nas said:
I found my app in Google Drive backup folder. So at least the app I am interested is safe.
But still need an answer regarding how Samsung backup works.
Thanks!
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Samsung cloud backup will backup your apps, data and settings.

Here you go https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00060517/

Wesleyjah said:
Samsung cloud backup will backup your apps, data and settings.
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Wesleyjah said:
Here you go https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00060517/
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Yeah, this is exactly what I was talking about, I've backup and restored my phone from Samsung Cloud atleast 20 times already and it has never restored app data. It will backup a list of the apps you have installed and install that list when you initially setup the phone but that's it.

willhemmens said:
Yeah, this is exactly what I was talking about, I've backup and restored my phone from Samsung Cloud atleast 20 times already and it has never restored app data. It will backup a list of the apps you have installed and install that list when you initially setup the phone but that's it.
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I always backup apps with Google and data, desktop settings, and other settings with Samsung cloud backup. I have never had problems with restoring after that.
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Have you followed this steps?
https://www.samsung.com/au/support/mobile-devices/how-to-restore-data-from-samsung-cloud/

Wesleyjah said:
I always backup apps with Google and data, desktop settings, and other settings with Samsung cloud backup. I have never had problems with restoring after that.
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You aren't understanding this question, he wanted the app data backed up, so after he resets his phone, the app is exactly how it was before the reset. Google's backup doesn't do that either. The only way I'm aware to have that backed up is Titanium Backup, which requires root.

Like I wrote, when I backup with booth Google and Samsung cloud. My apps data and settings are exactly like before after Factory reset and restore.

Ok so.. To be clear.. Nothing.. Nothing backs up the apps data like titanium backup.. I used it long time ago, but i stopped rooting since few years.
Now the difference between samsung backup or cloud or switch (all almost does the same thing) and Google backup cant be determined..
Here is my experience..
Google backup does backup apps data and settings perfectly when using a pixel phone.. So pixel to pexil..
Samsung cloud or switch does backup SOME apps data (Samsung to Samsung). And does backup the majority of Samsung native apps and settings (always misses something when restoring)
However, i noticed that as long as you are backing up and restoring to the same phone (same device not only same brand) then either Samsung or Google do restore the most possible..
You have to keep in my mind that there are apps that i couldn't restore its data no matter what, and mostly these apps are the ones that have higher authentication (Instagram, WhatsApp, shipment tracking apps, banks apps and so on).. But i was always able to restore apps like Talon or Fenix (twitter apps)..
I believe that some apps do allow restoration as long as its coming back to the same exact device (simple formate and restore) but others dont no matter what..
Recently i did a factory reset after updating to pie (i didn't factory reset during the beta so my apps where already setup on pie) so moving from pie to pie in samsung and same device using SD card and Samsung switch. I would say most of samsung settings where restored, 40% of my apps data restored, i had 2 or 3 apps completely not restored and i downloaded them again from play store.. Most of samsung native apps settings were restored..
I would advice, doing both Samsung switch and Google backup (keep in mind that Google back is now activated and u can manually backup ur device anytime) thats what i did, and when i restored the last time, i restored from both, because when u do the setup, first google asks you if you want to restore then samsung asks you too.. So i did both.. And i would say it worked better than what i expected, minimal setup overall compared to a fresh device setup.. But expect an hour or 2 of double checking of you do check all apps after restoring like me..

This thread is relevant to me. I want to root my phone, but first I want to backup my apps and data. I know in future I can use Titanium Backup but how to backup now without root. Is everyone using Smart Switch and Google Backup. I looked at Helium but most apps say they can't be backed up.