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I'm a very happy owner of a rooted NC and have been following the progress of the Nook Tablet, planning to get one when the cm team puts out a rom for it.
Today I see that the Asus Transformer will be $250 at Best Buy for Black Friday.
I haven't been following the Transformer so I'm not very familiar with it. A quick look at the cm and xda forums doesn't seem to show any roms for this device so that is a concern.
Is this tablet a better buy than the Nook Tablet for the same price? Note I'm talking about a NT with cm on it, not a base device.
Would it be worth the hassle of dealing with Black Friday at Best Buy?
@ $250 get the Transformer if you can, you get HDMI out, Camera and GPS, just to name a few of the advantages.
The Transformer it's a top notch tablet.
It is bigger, faster, fully capable tablet.
Honeycomb feels elegant and sophisticated compared to CM7.
I bought the keyboard dock and spend about 50/50 with and without the keyboard.
The Nook has size advantage when it comes to taking it anywhere in my purse but I love both equally.
Battery life is excellent. I got mine for $300 but I am glad I won't be standing in line to get one for $250
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The Transformer it's a top notch tablet.
It is bigger, faster, fully capable tablet.
Honeycomb feels elegant and sophisticated compared to CM7.
I bought the keyboard dock and spend about 50/50 with and without the keyboard.
The Nook has size advantage when it comes to taking it anywhere in my purse but I love both equally.
Battery life is excellent. I got mine for $300 but I am glad I won't be standing in line to get one for $250
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Good luck trying to root the Transformer!
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Good luck trying to root the Transformer!
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I realize I wouldn't be rooting the transformer. Just wondering how the two devices would compare. Thanks for all the input so far.
Would the transformer be in line for an ICS upgrade?
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Good luck trying to root the Transformer!
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What? There is root/recovery/ROMs out for the device.
Transformer is lightning fast compared to the Nook. I have both including the dock and I have stopped using my Nook except for reading. Just a way better experience.
The TF (Tegra 2) is about on par with the Nook Tablet (OMAP 4430) for general computing, but is much worse than the NT for video playback.
The TF has HDMI out, but has no USB port. To get USB, you need to buy the dock, which I understand is $100. The dock does add a keyboard along with an extended battery, but it also adds weight. Effectively, with the dock, the TF will be an underpowered $350 netbook with detachable screen. The hybrid setup tends to be a love-hate situation. I myself prefer use of a BT keyboard that can be used for any tablet.
The TF has an IPS screen, but build quality is somewhat iffy, with speakers going out and various other ailments. Per freq of problem reports in the various Tegra 2 tabs' forums, it's about on par with the Acer Iconia, and less reliable than the Xoom or the Samsung GT.
As of this moment, the latest TF B70 stepping is still unrootable, ever since Asus changed its SBK (secure boot key). I wouldn't count on rooting the TF, since the issue has been around since August.
The TF will likely get official ICS upgrade some time early 2012.
IMO, it depends on your use. If you want an integrated keyboard, then the TF ($350 w/ keyboard) is better. It also has a larger screen, which is better for certain uses and certain people, eg older users.
I don't think it's a "better-worse" decision, since the TF and NT are different enough with little overlap. BTW, the TF has been periodically on sale at $300 for a while, so basically you'll be doing the fight-the-stampede deal for $50.
$250 is a pretty good price. If I wasn't going to get the tf prime I would pick one up.
You might be able to get it on cyber Monday online and not have to deal with the crazy people at black Friday sales.
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I had no intentions of rooting the Transformer - it is great without it.
ASUS has already announced that they would be upgrading the Transformers to Ice Cream Sandwich.
I haven't had any issues with video but I don't intend to stream video to my TV; I have a Roku, a Sony Media Player and an LG Bluray all with wifi so I can stream from those.
IMO I think the ASUS Transformer is one of the best tablets out there and worth the $250 or $300 it costs.
Edit: ASUS has really impressed me with their willingness to issue OS updates for this device. I don't think any phones or other tablets have gotten as much love from the manufacturer.
Will they keep up with the updates now that the prime is coming out?
That is a great price. I have the NC and the TF. The TF is a full tablet running Honeycomb. Even without rooting it is a great experience. Much better than the CM7.1 on the NC. FWIW, Asus has provided great support on the TF. They just updated the firmware on Thursday. Some post have said that ICS is coming to the TF in January.
If comparing both as tablets then; the Transformer wins because it is usable as a HC tablet out-of-the-box with official G Market support plus the pending upgrade to ICS.
The NT will require aftermarket hacking and OSes to run as a tablet.
It will of course enjoy great developer support (here & elsewhere) assuming the 'SD card-boots-first' holds true to make it easier. I doubt if we see anything beyond Gingerbread on the NT.
However, dealing with the lines of people on frigid mornings outside BB is not worth it (IMO). It seems every year the lines keep getting longer and longer with people coming in at 9:00 p.m. the previous night. Just not worth it anymore.
I would rather get the NT for $250 and mess with it.
On a side note: I am excited about the NT since it comes with a dual-core, more ram and storage and a mic. I have 3 year extended coverage with ADH handling from ST. Hope my NC breaks down in the next 12 months; might get the NT as replacement....he he.
I thought about it, and after finding out the closest best buy is almost 2 hours away, I just said nah.
Plus, I'm dying to see if I can get the NT as a replacement in case something "terrible" were to happen to my NC lol.
Padfone or G-Nexus-7 combination
I've been using a SIM-free (unlocked and rooted) Motorola Atrix 4G with the lapdock everyday as my "daily-driver" phone/laptop solution since April of last year. I used the webtop, and later on, a modded version of Gentoo with Google Docs and Libre Office to get things done. I work at a university, so if I need something other than regular office software, I just use one of the hundreds of workstations I have access to on our campuses-- I've never experienced the so-called limitations that the lapdock+phone combo presents, and the fact that I ride very crowded trains in Tokyo precludes me from bringing my $1500+ laptop around everyday.
So when the Asus Padfone came out, I was sure that this would be my upgrade path! A phone that goes into a tablet that clips onto a keyboard. Brilliant! But hang on-- now there's the Nexus 7... Pure Google, and OPEN... That plus a Galaxy-Nexus... hmmmmm.... Could that also do the trick??
Well, there's always "let's wait and see a few more months..." But the obvious happened a week ago-- my Atrix's screen gave up the ghost... Sure I can plug it into HDMI, and use the lapdock just fine, but I can't use it as a phone... GRRRR!! Oh, and check out my location to the left-- I live in JAPAN, but I travel a lot, and go back to the US every year; actually, I'm going home in a week for a month!! So I NEED a phone either just before I go, or when I get there....
REQUIREMENTS:
- SIM Free (unlocked): I travel. A lot. Internationally. I needs my unlock!
- Multi-band support: Japan uses 2100MHz for HSPA+, and so does most of Asia. The US is 850, 1900, 1700... I'd like to find a phone that supports both of these... The Padfone will only support the Asian frequency, but nothing in the States-- I'd be stuck on 2G back home for a month... I can tolerate that though because I'll at least have AT&T hotspot support. The G-Nexus of course has a PENTABAND 3G radio (why the F don't other phones <other than the iPhone> have this same radio?!) so it'll work with whatever network I throw at it.
- Open bootloader/Rooted: One of the things I really enjoyed about my Atrix was being able to tweak tweak tweak. The Nexus devices don't need an explanation here-- They're designed to root and tweak. The Padfone can be rooted now--but it's bootloader is locked... But with the exotic tweaks made to get the tablet and phone UI to work, I doubt I'd use a custom ROM anyhow.
- Tablet/Phone combo: I got spoiled by my Atrix. Being able to use a physical keyboard to respond to an incoming text message is really habit-forming. Especially if I need to type it in Japanese. Of course the Padfone would win here... Not sure if there's an app that lets you see the text and MMSs on a phone through a tablet though. The other obvious thing here is that the Padphone *IS* the tablet, once docked into the PadStation. No tethering, no separate data plan, no hotspot needed. The G-Nexus-7 combo would see me tethering the G-Nex to the Nex-7. Is there a simple app that can make an on-demand data connection between the two happen at will?
- Updates: This is what pissed me off about Motorola. The OG Atrix's Tegra 2 processor can more than handle ICS, but here it is almost 6 months later, and nothing. Luckily I can get Kang builds, but certain things just don't work for me--for example Chrome crashes ALL the time. Camera sucks, etc. Hence, I'm over using another Moto device. Obviously the Nexus duo will ALWAYS get the latest and greatest; no-brainer there. Asus? The TF series got their updates to ICS within the first 3 months IIRC. Since Jelly Bean is just a point update, perhaps the Padfone will see an update in the fall sometime--I can live with that.
- Ease of use: Not the OS, but the physical pieces... The G-Nex-7 combo is easy in the way that both are able to use the same charger (micro USB). Padfone just nests together. I like how the Padfone keyboard has USB ports and an SD card slot... Not to mentin BATTERIES galore. It's hard as hell trying to find a place to charge my phone all the time, and sometimes I'd just use the Moto's lapdock as a battery charger!
- Price: this is the kicker... The Galaxy Nexus/ Nexus 7 Combo will come out to less than US$600 when bought from the Google store. Even buying from a grey-market distributor in Taiwan, I can't buy the Padfone/PadStation/Keyboard combo for less that US$1000... I have barely that much to spend though.
Friends, I need some help deciding! Here are my pros and cons for each device as it stands today. I'm posting this in the Padfone, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, and my old Motorola Atrix forums as well. I want some good honest and thoughtful opinions-- no haterism, flaming, or retardedness please. This is an extremely important purchase for me, and needs to be done ASAP.
As always, thank you so much for your opinions!
Your answer is in the OP. You're welcome.
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Not sure if there's an app that lets you see the text and MMSs on a phone through a tablet though
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apdroid.tabtalk
And if you need a physical keyboard you can get a compact Bluetooth one off eBay for like $35 (maybe less?)
I own the Prime. Asus is TERRIBLE with their software support. Absolutely terrible. Go with the Nexus and enjoy quality software support from Google.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apdroid.tabtalk
And if you need a physical keyboard you can get a compact Bluetooth one off eBay for like $35 (maybe less?)
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Thanx for that app tip! That's going on the "save" list. I can go to Akihabara (the famous Tokyo electronics shopping area) and get one for maybe even less--that's definitely part of my solution if I do the G-Nex-7 thing.
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I own the Prime. Asus is TERRIBLE with their software support. Absolutely terrible. Go with the Nexus and enjoy quality software support from Google.
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And I've heard about ASUS's bad support at times... One of the reasons I switched from using an HP laptop to an Apple one, was because I can walk into any Apple store worldwide and get help with it. (I'm just as mad about them suing everyone into oblivion, and I'm not that flattered with iOS the way I am with Android, but I loves me some OSX for sure.)
Keep the opinions coming y'all. Thanx!
I've owned more than enough Android devices and the thing that always leaves me disenchanted with them in the end is the update fragmentation. I have the n7 on preorder and my x2 is set to be replaced by the g-nex in August. This is just my opinion but I think it's insane that I have to keep flashing roms that may or may not have all of my hardware working correctly just to get an update. Nexus devices represent what I feel google should have done at Androids launch to combat Apple. I plan to use my n7 as an iPad alternative until Windows Surface launches and I can get a tab with fully featured office for productivity.
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nyijedi said:
I own the Prime. Asus is TERRIBLE with their software support. Absolutely terrible. Go with the Nexus and enjoy quality software support from Google.
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Ya i've been waiting for the new asus infinity to come out but i know it will never get updated and i can at least get a bluetooth keyboard or some extra keyboard hooked up to the nexus 7 and type away
Gnex + N7 combo hands down.
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Gnex + N7 combo hands down.
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Nexcellent said:
Gnex + N7 combo hands down.
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Exactly this. If for nothing else, these two solid reasons:
A GNex + a Nexus 7 are cheaper than a Padfone
And the battery on the GSM model of the GNex is excellent compared to its LTE counterpart.
Treat yourself to some delicious Jelly Bean. =]
Not to mention, you can just buy the $70 3800mAh extended battery from Seidio with NFC if you are worried about battery life, and you'll still be paying way less than the Padfone. I ordered one for my dad's Verizon GNex the other day, and will finally be able to put in his phone when he comes home on sunday, since no other battery has been good enough, even with the Gummy ROM on his phone. =[
Hmm. Good point. One of my main concerns is battery life since I'll be tethering with this combo a lot. I forgot the NFC chip is in the battery and not the body... also I wonder if NFC is compatible with the Felicia systems used here in Japan for things like train passes and e-money.... the phone I'm using now has it... not a necessity though.
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seff5677 said:
Ya i've been waiting for the new asus infinity to come out but i know it will never get updated and i can at least get a bluetooth keyboard or some extra keyboard hooked up to the nexus 7 and type away
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I wouldn't just worry about timely updates. I'd worry about decent performance. My Prime is a quad core device and it sucks total ass at playing games, browsing, and just about everything else. Constant lags and crashes. It's enraging. Do yourself a favor and stay away from Asus devices (the Nexus 7 will likely be different since it's a google device). You'll save yourself some huge headaches.
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I think it's incredibly odd that there is so much Asus hate yet the N7 is an Asus device itself. Performance-wise with the N7, i'd imagine apps would perform similarly to the transformer prime seeing as it uses the same processor...
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I think it's incredibly odd that there is so much Asus hate yet the N7 is an Asus device itself. Performance-wise with the N7, i'd imagine apps would perform similarly to the transformer prime seeing as it uses the same processor...
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The reason for the Asus hate is not their hardware, it's how they bloat up the OS after google passes it off to them. With the n7 Asus has nothing to do with the OS, they just make the hardware.
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So far most responses seem to support the Nexus combo.
I, however, when reading how you use your devices was thinking PadFone all the way. It seems like a better fit for you.
But just my 2 cents.
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So far most responses seem to support the Nexus combo.
I, however, when reading how you use your devices was thinking PadFone all the way. It seems like a better fit for you.
But just my 2 cents.
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The problem is, I think most of the benefits he would get from the padfone would be too minor to justify a $300-$400 price premium. And I am also not sure how well the phone part of it does by itself etc, Ive yet to check some reviews of the padfone. For all that extra money he could by himself some nice cases, screen protectors, bluetooth headsets etc. Even a pack of those little nfc coin things he might be able to put to good use.
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I think it's incredibly odd that there is so much Asus hate yet the N7 is an Asus device itself. Performance-wise with the N7, i'd imagine apps would perform similarly to the transformer prime seeing as it uses the same processor...
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Believe me, I was super pissed when word leaked that Asus was making the Nexus tablet. I'm not buying one solely for that reason. However, I do think the N7 should be okay since Google is taking care of the software instead of Asus and oversaw the hardware. Asus is completely incompetent. Google is not.
And as a Prime owner, if apps on the N7 perform similarly as the Prime, I'd suggest throwing it in the garbage. All browsers, Google Earth, tegra games - they're god awful on the Prime. Some of them are literally unusable. With that said, I'm sure apps on the N7 will run great thanks to Google.
Have I mentioned how awful Asus is?
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I also use the Atrix + Laprtock as my entire molbile solution. And this includes "real" work which needs substantial typeing and screen real estate.
For me, dropping down to 10 inch would be a killer. I have tried using 10 inch netbooks, and it is a real pain. But maybe the OP can get away with this (younger eyes on a higher res screan, perhaps smaller fingers/hands).
But no way in the world can one work like this on a 7 inch screen.
If one is using the pair for light browsing + media then I cerrtainly see the GN + N7 as a sound choice. But for a working laptop replacement, not for me. Alas I am not certain a padphone works either (though I like the concept). I would certainly be concerned about the phone itself (there are a lot of deatils in this area that do not show up in specs, ask Apple).
A shame the OP just busted his scrreen. I suspect the right answer is to wait several months.
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I also use the Atrix + Laprtock as my entire molbile solution. And this includes "real" work which needs substantial typeing and screen real estate.
For me, dropping down to 10 inch would be a killer.
But no way in the world can one work like this on a 7 inch screen.
A shame the OP just busted his scrreen. I suspect the right answer is to wait several months.
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I had exactly that same question, so I trekked over to the local electronics shop near my home here in Yokohama, and they have an Asus TF201 set up there on wifi. The tablet's dimensions are Padfone sized-- 10 inches. They also had the keydock there too, so I got to test that out as well... Wow. Color me impressed. Remember, the 10" IPS screen has more pixels and a much wider and brighter viewing angle than the Moto OG Lapdock. The keyboard was also easy to type on, and I love the fact that there are actual keys for Home, Back, Volume, Menu, Play/Pause and so on.
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So far most responses seem to support the Nexus combo.
I, however, when reading how you use your devices was thinking PadFone all the way. It seems like a better fit for you.
But just my 2 cents.
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You're right-- It does seem like a better fit to me too, the more I think of it. Going and actually futzing with the TF201 yesterday didn't help though...
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The problem is, I think most of the benefits he would get from the padfone would be too minor to justify a $300-$400 price premium. And I am also not sure how well the phone part of it does by itself etc, Ive yet to check some reviews of the padfone. For all that extra money he could by himself some nice cases, screen protectors, bluetooth headsets etc. Even a pack of those little nfc coin things he might be able to put to good use.
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The phone part did pretty well according to Anandtech and Engadget--
Bear in mind that this is supposed to be saving me the cost of getting a netbook to take to work with me everyday as well too... As far as accessories, well I already have 2 bluetooth headsets just sitting on my desk in front of me now, along with a microUSB to USB port adaptor and micro HDMI M/F cables. All this was from me using the Atrix in various situations.
And while the Nexus Duo is a powerful combo, there are 2 things that I absolutely need to have in a device for the way I work-- SD card adaptor and Ethernet Adaptor.
I work in the Media faculty at the university and also teach photojournalism classes; I also freelance a lot too, and one of the things that helps me a lot, is being able to yank my SD card out the camera, snap it into a USB card reader and plug it into the Lapdock and have the Atrix see it, mount it, and access it. I can then do whatever I need to do to the pix while sitting on the train (Did you know the Bullet Trains here all have Wifi onboard, and can be used while in tunnels? I once wrote and uploaded 2 magazine articles, pix and all while on a 3 hour train ride!) The Padfone's keyboard dock has a full sized SDXC card adapter built in...
Also, while my university has wifi almost everywhere on campus, I cannot access the secured parts of the network where we house our common files for grading and such. We can only use the PC labs, office PC pools, or the ethernet ports in the staff rooms. Currently I use a small wifi adapter in bridge mode sometimes-- of course with the SSID not broadcast. But a better solution would be to get a USB Ethernet adaptor. I know the Transformer series has this baked into their kernels-- I think the Padfone can do it too. But I need to do some checking.
Can the Nexus Duo do some/any of these? Let me know how, so I can check off the boxes!
I wouldn't touch an android or ios tablet after the specs of the Microsoft surface the other windows 8 tablet with ivy bridge processors were revealed. Im done with android on anything but my smartphone. Only thing I need to know is the batter life on those beast.
I absolutely LOVE the way the keyboard of my tf700 works as a keyboard and battery. However- even with cromi, the device has major issues (slow/lag/flash lines occn). I am reluctant to trust asus again- heck- this device (700) got rave reviews too!
Are there any other devices with a similar keyboard like this one that can hold charge? nothing by samsung/ or lg???
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I absolutely LOVE the way the keyboard of my tf700 works as a keyboard and battery. However- even with cromi, the device has major issues (slow/lag/flash lines occn). I am reluctant to trust asus again- heck- this device (700) got rave reviews too!
Are there any other devices with a similar keyboard like this one that can hold charge? nothing by samsung/ or lg???
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The tf701 is the upgraded version of the infinity, packs a tegra 4 processor and doesn't seem to have the tf700 issues.
Also there's the hp slatebook x2, same processor and I think same ram (2gb) but a lower resolution.
Check them out in a store I'd say
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The tf701 is the upgraded version of the infinity, packs a tegra 4 processor and doesn't seem to have the tf700 issues.
Also there's the hp slatebook x2, same processor and I think same ram (2gb) but a lower resolution.
Check them out in a store I'd say
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Is the Tf701t available in the UK yet? I had a look on Amazon and Ebuyer but they cannot be found when I search All sites say release on 21st October, which has been and gone but I can't find it to buy.
I'd swap my TF700 for a TF701 in a heartbeat
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Is the Tf701t available in the UK yet? I had a look on Amazon and Ebuyer but they cannot be found when I search All sites say release on 21st October, which has been and gone but I can't find it to buy.
I'd swap my TF700 for a TF701 in a heartbeat
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I sold my tf700 and am planning on getting the new infinity.
Keep your eyes open, it should be available one of these days\(weeks?)
It's online in webshops in Holland. But I'm waiting to get it at a particular store here, it will be easier for warranty returns and what not.
I have ordered a tf701, set to ship on 11/3. Ordered from eBay, ordered the dock via Amazon (saved $30)
I love my tf700, but the memory issues really cripple this device. To bad really. I would not upgrade it if it would perform as advertised. Off to eBay it goes. At least it will cover 75% of the cost of the new one.
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I got the TF701 today after 2-day shipping from NewEgg on release day. The lag issue is not present, which is nice. I sold my TF700 after a month of use because of the slow storage lag issue.
Loving this tablet!
Hello everyone. I'm a longtime follower of, and lurker on XDA. I always have appreciated the amazing work that originates here, and the time and effort that so many put forward to making this the definitive hub for development for tablets, smartphones, etc. That being the case, I felt that I could do no better than to trust the opinions I might receive with my following question.
I've been using my 32G TF101 w/ dock since they were new, and while I have the tablet rooted and tweaked (thanks again xda!), I feel like the device is nearing the end of it's usefulness to me. I'm gotten used to my Samsung GS4 for quick and light use, but when I switch back to my old trusty TF101 for a little more screen real-estate the tablet is almost painful to use. I know this disparity will only increase as my smartphones continue to get newer/smarter, and my tablet continues to become more woefully outdated.
I'd love to update so that the gap might not be as noticeable. Considering that I've managed to be content sticking with my TF101 for this long, I'm really on the fence with this decision. I don't know whether I should consider paying the none-too-inexpensive cost of bringing myself up to date with the 64G flavor of the TF701, or save a few hundred dollars and just be happy with the performance boost that a year 1/2 old TF700 would offer over my current tablet, despite the fact that the age of it might put me back in the same boat I'm already in much quicker.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks! :good:
If your you're willing to unlock and use custom rom then the 700 is going to be a capable device as long as you don't play HD games on it as some if not most HD games don't play as smooth on it. Stock form it's a pain to use and suffers from I/O issues so it tends to lag and stutter when you're downloading or transferring data. Custom rom helps but the I/O is still present but is definitely better than stock. The 701 is the best Asus 10 inch tablet out right now and it's great stock. So if it were me I'd skip 700 completely and jump to 701. There are other great tablets out there as well like the Samsung note 10.1 but no kb dock. The best performer IMO is the hp slate book X2 but you're stuck with 16gb and lower resolution and warmer screen. But its the cheapest at $450 with a kb. Seeing that you're considering a 64gb model you're not going to be happy with that. So I think 701 is your better choice. Just read up on the 700 forum so you know what to expect if you decide to go for that device instead. I've had the 201 and the 701 each for about a year.
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701t, but gaming performance is decent, that's because the high res screen
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Try one out in a shop when possible and be amazed how quick and lagfree it is.
Screen of the TF700 is already very good and the TF701 screen is an improvement but not a big one. Higher resolution you only can see with apropriate content.
Tf701 is a big step forward in speed and when Asus manages to solve the dock connection problems there is no real competition, specially for this money!!
Hi,
i replaced my TF300T (Tegra3, 1Gig) against the TF701 and this is a huge step forward, just talking about the overall performance with ASUS ROM´s. I mean the TF300T was okay, but really laggy and had a lot times to think (stucks for 1 or 3 seconds). The TF701 is as good as instant to use (browse in desktop mode and stuff like that).
Yep Display also is much better, Keydock feels not so nice but i write much faster on this (better anyhow, i dont know why).
I would go to TF701 if you can sell TF700 for a good price, or check a head to head in any store or try one and if you dont want to hold the new one which i did not think, send it back
So from my side ASUS was 1st with Transformer Series, and i like those a lot. I used a TF101 and TF300 and 700 (but still owned the TF300T) but since the TF701 the Transformers on android are usable without any kind of "problems" or waiting or stucking or what ever, thats really amazing.
So if you want to see how fast it is, go to youtube and search for slatebook x2 vs nexus 10, and the nexus10 is a really really fast device if you will have the look against Tegra3 devices. Also ASUS spend faster memory in the TF701 than in series before, it runs much much better.
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Get the TF701T. The TF700T can't match it even with a good custom rom
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Get the TF701T. The TF700T can't match it even with a good custom rom
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If it werent for you i would've thrown the 700 against the wall a long time ago lol. So are you dumping the 700 or are gonna continue to develop for it? Glad you ended up getting the 701 after all though.
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If it werent for you i would've thrown the 700 against the wall a long time ago lol. So are you dumping the 700 or are gonna continue to develop for it? Glad you ended up getting the 701 after all though.
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Don't get me wrong I love my TF700 and it is now my work machine.
There will be more updates to the TF700 to come
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Don't get me wrong I love my TF700 and it is now my work machine.
There will be more updates to the TF700 to come
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Good to hear.
I still have my TF700 (wife is using it now) for a backup and because it is a good machine with it flaws (slow internal memory).
I did downgrade it to Cromi 3.4.7. where the draining of the dock is absent.
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So if you want to see how fast it is, go to youtube and search for slatebook x2 vs nexus 10, and the nexus10 is a really really fast device if you will have the look against Tegra3 devices.
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I understand why you suggested this, because the HP Slatebook x2 is a Tegra 4 device like the TF701T, but people who have had both the Slatebook x2 and the TF701T have said that the Slatebook outperforms the TF701T, probably because of the Slatebook's lower resolution.
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I understand why you suggested this, because the HP Slatebook x2 is a Tegra 4 device like the TF701T, but people who have had both the Slatebook x2 and the TF701T have said that the Slatebook outperforms the TF701T, probably because of the Slatebook's lower resolution.
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Exactly.
But only in GPU intensive applications like games.
Snah001 said:
Good to hear.
I still have my TF700 (wife is using it now) for a backup and because it is a good machine with it flaws (slow internal memory).
I did downgrade it to Cromi 3.4.7. where the draining of the dock is absent.
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I've heard that the new thatv6 kernel fixes that bug.
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I've heard that the new thatv6 kernel fixes that bug.
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Really?? Did you test it yourself? Would be great!
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Really?? Did you test it yourself? Would be great!
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I sold my prime 2 weeks ago so my dock went with it so I can't test it.....
sbdags said:
I sold my prime 2 weeks ago so my dock went with it so I can't test it.....
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Ok, wil then monitor your TF700 CromiX thread then to see if someone did test it and has results.
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Exactly.
But only in GPU intensive applications like games.
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It's not just games. I have the slate book and it's butter smooth no Stuttering 99% of the time even with simple tasks like portrait to landscape transition. Once you have this kind of experience it's hard to appreciate other devices. At least in my case. I can honestly say this is as close to it ipad user experience as I'm gonna get on an android. My roommate with ipad is surprised as well.
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What setting do you leave your transitions on for the TF700T?
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What setting do you leave your transitions on for the TF700T?
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Still strange.
I have my third unit now (due to the dock connection problem) but none of them suffered from stuttering or lagging.
In the local Media Markt they had the slatebook X2 as a demo last weekend and I gave it a try but I see no real difference in performing normal tasks and on games they had installed compared to the Tf701.
But the better screen of the TF701 was clearly visible.
Thanks to everyone that responded. I seriously appreciate all the time and opinions everyone shared and the information put forth.I don't play many games on my tablet (guess I should have mentioned that), as I've got a nice desktop at home for that, but it still sounds like the TF701 should be my primary choice.
Now all I have to do is wait for the 64G flavor become available, and hope it does so before ASUS decides to muddy the waters of my decision by releasing an announcement about a TF800 or something along those lines. :laugh:
I have had a TF700 for exactly 1 year and 2 months, but two weeks ago the motherboard got fried due to my stupidity and I decided I needed a new tablet. The 700 CROMIX served me well and it had done everything I wanted it to with a few frustration.
I looked at the Samsungs, Kindles, Google Nexus 10, and the TF701. After a week of looking at all these I decided that
- Samsung was too expensive. Nice machines, but I was just not willing to pay the difference
- Kindles are also nice but a little small for me and I felt like I would always be fighting the Amazon controls they put on the device. HW wise it was the lightest machine with the best screen.
- Google Nexus 10 seemed a little too similar to the 701 and it had a little lesser specs (CPU and no MicroSD). Maybe I would wait for the NEW version, but it did not look like it is coming anytime soon (hopefully summer) and my guess is that it will be in the $500+ range
- So since the 701 has a better screen, better CPU, and very attractive price ($359 at amazon), I decided to go with it
Got the tablet and really did not wait: Upgraded to 4.3, Unlocked the bootloader, and installed CROMiX 6.0.1a on it. 20 minutes and I was good to go. I was really surprised how much faster than my 700 it is. I knew that the 1.9MHZ is better than the 700's 1.6 but I had the 700 overclocked and with the increased resolution, I expected they would be close. But the performance difference is really noticeable. I cannot comment on CROMiX vs the Stock in terms of how much the performance improvement is the optimized ROM because I did not really run the stock long enough. But this thing just flies. Boat browser with flash works great. My 16GB MicroSD worked great, the restore from Titanium worked great. My Nova settings were there and worked without trouble. Netflix does not stutter at all or Google movies or Mx Player. The battery was horrible after my first charge (lasted less than 8 hours) but also I was messing with it the whole time. After that, it looks like it goes about 2.5-3 hours per 1% in sleep and I would say it is a bit better than my 700 while on. The ROM has a "reading mode" that seems to slow down battery consumption while reading my Kindle app, but I am not sure how much better it is.
Just wanted to share my experiences with the TF701. Not saying it is the best machine out there, but for the price, I am very happy and cannot imagine the added cost for the other models would buy me that much. All the features of the 700 with the added performance and better screen. Very happy.
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I have had a TF700 for exactly 1 year and 2 months, but two weeks ago the motherboard got fried due to my stupidity and I decided I needed a new tablet. The 700 CROMIX served me well and it had done everything I wanted it to with a few frustration.
I looked at the Samsungs, Kindles, Google Nexus 10, and the TF701. After a week of looking at all these I decided that
- Samsung was too expensive. Nice machines, but I was just not willing to pay the difference
- Kindles are also nice but a little small for me and I felt like I would always be fighting the Amazon controls they put on the device. HW wise it was the lightest machine with the best screen.
- Google Nexus 10 seemed a little too similar to the 701 and it had a little lesser specs (CPU and no MicroSD). Maybe I would wait for the NEW version, but it did not look like it is coming anytime soon (hopefully summer) and my guess is that it will be in the $500+ range
- So since the 701 has a better screen, better CPU, and very attractive price ($359 at amazon), I decided to go with it
Got the tablet and really did not wait: Upgraded to 4.3, Unlocked the bootloader, and installed CROMiX 6.0.1a on it. 20 minutes and I was good to go. I was really surprised how much faster than my 700 it is. I knew that the 1.9MHZ is better than the 700's 1.6 but I had the 700 overclocked and with the increased resolution, I expected they would be close. But the performance difference is really noticeable. I cannot comment on CROMiX vs the Stock in terms of how much the performance improvement is the optimized ROM because I did not really run the stock long enough. But this thing just flies. Boat browser with flash works great. My 16GB MicroSD worked great, the restore from Titanium worked great. My Nova settings were there and worked without trouble. Netflix does not stutter at all or Google movies or Mx Player. The battery was horrible after my first charge (lasted less than 8 hours) but also I was messing with it the whole time. After that, it looks like it goes about 2.5-3 hours per 1% in sleep and I would say it is a bit better than my 700 while on. The ROM has a "reading mode" that seems to slow down battery consumption while reading my Kindle app, but I am not sure how much better it is.
Just wanted to share my experiences with the TF701. Not saying it is the best machine out there, but for the price, I am very happy and cannot imagine the added cost for the other models would buy me that much. All the features of the 700 with the added performance and better screen. Very happy.
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Nice report! I have the same experience but I still love my TF700.
sbdags said:
Nice report! I have the same experience but I still love my TF700.
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Yes, I probably would have lived OK with the TF700 for a while, but I am glad I fried it
BTW, Thanks for CROMiX... It is a really nice piece of work! Sending a couple of six packs your way...
jhermit said:
Yes, I probably would have lived OK with the TF700 for a while, but I am glad I fried it
BTW, Thanks for CROMiX... It is a really nice piece of work! Sending a couple of six packs your way...
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Wow! Many thanks for the donation! That is very kind of you.
Cheers! :highfive: :good:
My last tablet was the TF101 so I cant complain. My reasoning was the same as jhermit. Its the 701 just happens to be the one. With its high resolution, reflections, and so on. A good buy. The Samsung was the white one everywhere. Otherwise I would have gotten it. The white color really through me off of buying it. Can't figure that one out.
The TF701T keeps dropping in price, it may be the one to get.
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I also have upgraded and have a few thoughts to add.
1. The docking station is all plastic, where the tf700t was metal. The plastic seems cheaper and typing and using the touchpad sounds plasticy, but the keyboard does type a bit easier.
2. The USB port on the base station is very very tight. I feel like I'm going to break it when I'm inserting and removing plugs.
3. The lack of vibration in the tablet is a bit of a let-down. I would have preferred to have the option.
4. The Micro USB port on the tablet is very tight and hard to get a card back out. It might be specific to my unit, but it's still an issue for me.
5. There are better brightness and performance options on the tf700t, but that may be part of the older OS as well.
6. The tablet dock hings has a lot more play/wobble in it. I read elsewhere that this was a design reason but it's floppy when I'm carrying the tablet around with the screen open.
7. Chrome was brutally bad on the tf700t; laggy, slow to load things, etc on both stock and custom ROMs. It appears that the extra horsepower in the tf701t has taken care of that problem.
So far so good on the custom ROM with xposed framework settings. I've restored all settings using Titanium Backup and am happy with it so far.
I got the TF701 a couple days ago (no keyboard) and it's great, I see no down side at all yet and I still have the TF700 running better than it ever has with Crombi-kk. [emoji41]
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I'm thinking of getting this too but I can't figure out why the supposed upgrade to my tf700 actually decreased its camera resolution. Sigh. Any feedback on the camera diffrence?
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pipopipz said:
I'm thinking of getting this too but I can't figure out why the supposed upgrade to my tf700 actually decreased its camera resolution. Sigh. Any feedback on the camera diffrence?
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Never used a camera on a tablet, ever, so I couldn't tell you but everything else is better.
I don't use the camera either. I'm sure a very high percentage of buyers don't either. Not a selling point for me.
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I don't use the camera either. I'm sure a very high percentage of buyers don't either. Not a selling point for me.
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I don't use the camera on the tablet that much too but for a supposed upgrade of a particular model, one wouldn't expect specs to scale back right? At least stay as is if not increase spec.
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pipopipz said:
I don't use the camera on the tablet that much too but for a supposed upgrade of a particular model, one wouldn't expect specs to scale back right? At least stay as is if not increase spec.
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If you are going to keep costs down why not go cheaper on the one part 99% of users will never use Seriously who uses the back camera on their tablet?
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If you are going to keep costs down why not go cheaper on the one part 99% of users will never use Seriously who uses the back camera on their tablet?
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You would be surprised......
Take a trip to a top tourist destination, marvel and cringe!
I work in tourism and I see more of them every month! And all of them look utterly, totally stupid if you ask me.
The only thing worse are telescopic extensions handles for the iPhone with some kind of trigger build into it's handle to take pictures and videos. Saw about a dozen of those **** in Las Vegas the other night. And for some reason I'm totally convinced that 99.9% of those pictures land in the recycling bin.... Or they should....
loner. said:
I got the TF701 a couple days ago (no keyboard) and it's great, I see no down side at all yet and I still have the TF700 running better than it ever has with Crombi-kk. [emoji41]
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Just a quick question, will the TF701T Tablet work with the Keyboard Dock from the TF700T ??
Sidewindr said:
Just a quick question, will the TF701T Tablet work with the Keyboard Dock from the TF700T ??
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Unfortunately not - they have different connectors.
No, connection differs, keyboard as well as charger and datacables differ.
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Unfortunately not - they have different connectors.
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Ruud Westerhout said:
No, connection differs, keyboard as well as charger and datacables differ.
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Actually that kind of makes sense as the 701 has USB3.0 on the KBD Dock.
Currently on a TF201
I'm currently on a TF201 Transformer Prime that I've had for about two years now. I't currently running Crombi-KK quite nicely but...I'm looking for something else. I've pretty much narrowed things down to either a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 or the TF 701. There aren't a lot of reviews out there on the Tegra 4 based devices while of course the Enyos 5420 in the Galaxy tab is unique to Samsung. Have any of you had the opportunity to try both devices? Has anyone had an opportunity to use both a Tegra 4 (like the TF701) and a Snapdragon 800 based device. what little I'm finding seems to say that performance wise it would be 1. snapdragon 800, 2. Enyos 5420 and 3. tegra 4 ....but also that the differences aren't that great???
Right now I'm seeing the TF701 on Amazon for $354 and the Samsung for $399 so the prices are not that far off. On the other hand I always loved the keyboard dock on my Prime and with the TF701 I could have that again...for $130 on Amazon taking the total cost to $484. Of course with the Samsung I'd probably end up with some sort of Bluetooth keyboard, so in the end, when the accessories I would want are factored in, they cost about the same. (EDIT: I see that the Samsung is only 16 GB storage while the Asus is 32 - advantage Asus except that the Samsung has a micro SD slot and I've got a couple of 64 GB Sandisk Ultras kicking around so that probably isn't critical)
On the pro side the Asus is known unlockable (correct me if I'm wrong) where the Samsung probably isn't??? With my Prime, I stuck with it locked until the warranty ran out then unlocked it and put Hairy Bean on it and more recently Crombi-KK. So having those options available for the future is also a plus.
On the down side, as much as I have loved my Prime, its always had some annoyances. My WiFi was never as bad as others complain of but its never been great either. Sitting in my living room with my router almost directly under me on the floor below, my Motorola phone and my wife's HP laptop get right around the full 30 Mbps we have incoming from our ISP. My prime gets 8 - 10 Mbps which should be adequate most of the time except...the lag loading web pages. Hariy Bean and now Crombi-KK seem to improve things, but my phone (Morotrola Droid Maxx on Android 4.4) is still way smoother. Of course the GPS never really worked very well - which would be a big problem for me on a phone but not such a big deal on the tablet. Has Asus managed to correct those things on the TF701? While the Tegra 4 sounds good, I wouldn't want to have a tablet where they just stuck a faster CPU in the same old device.
Guess what I'm really looking for is a new Transformer Prime that's both faster and corrects all the annoyances I've had with the TF201. Does the TF 701 accomplish that? Given that the Samsung is about the same price when I include the accessories I want, does that change your opinion?
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I'm currently on a TF201 Transformer Prime that I've had for about two years now. I't currently running Crombi-KK quite nicely but...I'm looking for something else. I've pretty much narrowed things down to either a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 or the TF 701. There aren't a lot of reviews out there on the Tegra 4 based devices while of course the Enyos 5420 in the Galaxy tab is unique to Samsung. Have any of you had the opportunity to try both devices? Has anyone had an opportunity to use both a Tegra 4 (like the TF701) and a Snapdragon 800 based device. what little I'm finding seems to say that performance wise it would be 1. snapdragon 800, 2. Enyos 5420 and 3. tegra 4 ....but also that the differences aren't that great???
Right now I'm seeing the TF701 on Amazon for $354 and the Samsung for $399 so the prices are not that far off. On the other hand I always loved the keyboard dock on my Prime and with the TF701 I could have that again...for $130 on Amazon taking the total cost to $484. Of course with the Samsung I'd probably end up with some sort of Bluetooth keyboard, so in the end, when the accessories I would want are factored in, they cost about the same. (EDIT: I see that the Samsung is only 16 GB storage while the Asus is 32 - advantage Asus except that the Samsung has a micro SD slot and I've got a couple of 64 GB Sandisk Ultras kicking around so that probably isn't critical)
On the pro side the Asus is known unlockable (correct me if I'm wrong) where the Samsung probably isn't??? With my Prime, I stuck with it locked until the warranty ran out then unlocked it and put Hairy Bean on it and more recently Crombi-KK. So having those options available for the future is also a plus.
On the down side, as much as I have loved my Prime, its always had some annoyances. My WiFi was never as bad as others complain of but its never been great either. Sitting in my living room with my router almost directly under me on the floor below, my Motorola phone and my wife's HP laptop get right around the full 30 Mbps we have incoming from our ISP. My prime gets 8 - 10 Mbps which should be adequate most of the time except...the lag loading web pages. Hariy Bean and now Crombi-KK seem to improve things, but my phone (Morotrola Droid Maxx on Android 4.4) is still way smoother. Of course the GPS never really worked very well - which would be a big problem for me on a phone but not such a big deal on the tablet. Has Asus managed to correct those things on the TF701? While the Tegra 4 sounds good, I wouldn't want to have a tablet where they just stuck a faster CPU in the same old device.
Guess what I'm really looking for is a new Transformer Prime that's both faster and corrects all the annoyances I've had with the TF201. Does the TF 701 accomplish that? Given that the Samsung is about the same price when I include the accessories I want, does that change your opinion?
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Just go ahead and choose the TF701! I did not have older asus tablets, but from the comments I have read since this forum was launched, all the issues that older Asus tablets had were solved. However, I would advise you to make sure that the keyboard you are going to buy is built recently ( ??/2014). Some people are experiencing disconnections between the dock and the tablet. For me I have a 09/2013 build but fortunately everything works as it should