Dual boot without SC card? - Nook Color General

I recently updated my Nook with dual boot from the SD card but I find that it locks up a lot and it very slow. I figure it is probably the brand of SD card I am using but now I am wondering if I really want the original Nook software in it at all. Is it possible to dual boot without using a SD with two exact CM7 Roms, one with all my info and one with my wifes?

Raydee35 said:
I recently updated my Nook with dual boot from the SD card but I find that it locks up a lot and it very slow. I figure it is probably the brand of SD card I am using but now I am wondering if I really want the original Nook software in it at all. Is it possible to dual boot without using a SD with two exact CM7 Roms, one with all my info and one with my wifes?
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Yes, it's possible, but I don't recommend it. There are old threads that will tell you how to do it. I recommend against because to implement you must repartition emmc and that is risky. And you will have problems in the future if you want to update the ROM on the second system.
I recommend putting one system on emmc and another on a quality SD using the verygreen system. That's what I run and it works great.
Sent from my Nook Color running ICS and Tapatalk

OK thanks for the info. For now I have CM7 on the Nook and it runs 100 times better than when I had it on the SD card.

Raydee35 said:
OK thanks for the info. For now I have CM7 on the Nook and it runs 100 times better than when I had it on the SD card.
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With a good SD card it should run just as well as it does on internal. San Disk class 4 tend to work the best as bootable SD cards.

I tried to post a link to the card that I want to buy but I dont have enough posts

Raydee35 said:
I tried to post a link to the card that I want to buy but I dont have enough posts
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Just get a San Disk and that will take care of any potential card issues. This is the best possible way to avoid any potential issues with running a bootable SD

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Why is the Nook Color so different?

I just ordered a Nook Color from eBay with the $50 off... happy yes I am!
I've been with Android since the G1, now I have a droid... how come flashing ROMS and SD cards are so different? You have to put it internally on the Nook instead of on the SD card? Flashing off SD card causes problems? CWR doesn't work? Can anyone explain? It seems much tougher than my droid, just putting the file on my sd card then going to recovery and hitting update, or same with the gTab or Adam.
Unlike most phones, flashing a majority of ROMs (not all) for the NC wipes the Recovery -- ie, wipes it off the device.
So you create a Recovery SD card (the NC auto-boots into it) and then flash ROMs just like you would for a phone. Then take out the SD card when done with Recovery.
It wipes only the recovery correct? Not anything on the sd card? Ill search up how to make partition for recovery sd. Thanks.
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tekthebeast said:
It wipes only the recovery correct? Not anything on the sd card? Ill search up how to make partition for recovery sd. Thanks.
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Yeah, it'll wipe everything on the NC only, and not touch the SD card.
Here's the thread for creating a 3.0.0.6 Recovery SD Card (needed for CM7 Gingerbread ROM):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959240
See post #19 for detailed instructions.
For FroYo I believe you need to use 3.0.0.5, found elsewhere.
just ordered my NC off ebay too. i'm reading up all i can as fast as i can. coming from an evo where wiping is too easy, this is going to be a bit more complicated, i can't wait!!!
More complicated, maybe, but also much safer since you basically cannot brick an NC... No matter how badly you screw up the internal flash, you can always boot from SD to fix things.
I bought 3 Nook Colors yesterday and rooted every one of them and installed HoneyComb on one, all in less that 2 hours start to finish including downloading images and making the SD card. I made one SD card with CWR with images for the stock ROM, CyanogenMod 7 and HC eMMC v4. It all works flawlessly. This thing really is simple to manipulate. I had more trouble making a gold card and rooting my HTC Inspire!
Well I want to chime in on this too now because I'm new to this as well. What are the advantages/disadvantages of nookie froyo on the sd card vs flashing a rom to the internal?
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Droidicus said:
Well I want to chime in on this too now because I'm new to this as well. What are the advantages/disadvantages of nookie froyo on the sd card vs flashing a rom to the internal?
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well sd cards are slow and internal memory(eemc) is fast
if you install froyo/cm7/HC on your eemc it will run much faster vs running from sd card, running from sd card is good though if you want to try out a rom without losing your current setup

brand new nook color root?

Hi guys, I just got a new color and want to root it. Ive read and it gets a little confusing and Im wondering where I can find full instructions or maybe even a video on how to fully root it. I have the new version 1.3.0. Also, what is the best rom to use right now? Thanks.
Do you want the the internal system or use a MicroSD card to accomplish it?
I have done 4 Nooks using the uSD card and it has worked very well.
I just did this last night, and there is a very simple tutorial here
(hope its ok to post this link)
http://icrontic.com/discussion/93234/how-to-root-a-nook-color-install-cyanogenmod-7-and-overclock-it
I did everything they said, and it went smoothly. Now I have an awesome "tablet"!
Thanks. I am writing the image file now. When all is said and done, do I have to worry about OTA updates from Barnes and Nobel and if so what can I do to prevent them???
I rooted my daughters nook tablet and had to go through the process of blocking updates from barnes and nobel because it was preventing her from installing apps other than from barnes and nobel. Just wondering if the color will be the same since this is a full root.
tightwad said:
Do you want the the internal system or use a MicroSD card to accomplish it?
I have done 4 Nooks using the uSD card and it has worked very well.
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I am gonna do a full root on the internal system. I am gonna use it strictly like an android tablet.
Solo118 said:
I just did this last night, and there is a very simple tutorial here
(hope its ok to post this link)
http://icrontic.com/discussion/93234/how-to-root-a-nook-color-install-cyanogenmod-7-and-overclock-it
I did everything they said, and it went smoothly. Now I have an awesome "tablet"!
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This guide says to use a Nook Color with 1.2. Will it work with one that is running 1.3?
Yes, I have 1.3 and used this method posted above and I am now running Cyanogenmod 7.2. Looks reat! Now I need to find out about updates........
32GB SD
So if I purchase a 32GB SD card can I use the left over storage on the SD card after rooting? Also, I thought I heard that a class 4 SD card is the best to get. Anything slower, may cause issues. Is that correct as well? My new nook is on tha way and I am getting ready to root it.
Thanks in advance.
You should use a class 4 Sandisk card.. even faster cards of other brands do not work as well.
Bidderman9 said:
So if I purchase a 32GB SD card can I use the left over storage on the SD card after rooting? Also, I thought I heard that a class 4 SD card is the best to get. Anything slower, may cause issues. Is that correct as well? My new nook is on tha way and I am getting ready to root it.
Thanks in advance.
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1. Yes
2. Anything other than a Sandisk is going to cause issues.
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One last newbie question. So if I have a 4GB SD card formatted to boot with WinDiskImager, can I use that to back up my original nook 1.3 image before I root it? Then copy the CM7 and google apps zip files to it and use that to root it? Once rooted place a blank 32GB SD card it in for storage use? Then I can keep my 4GB SD card as a backup and also us it for root updates? Am I on the right track.
Thanks in advance, this thread has been helpful!

[Q] Increasing SD transfer speed

I have the stock NookHD rooted but was wondering how best to implement a higher cache speed on my SD card (class 10 PNY) If I can use an app I'm hoping it does not mess with the /system, But maybe there is a better way? (A flashable zip in recovery)
The reason I ask is because when transferring media files between the pc and and BNTV400, it either lags/crashes or in other cases moving files already on the card says it will take upwards of 40 minutes to complete! Is this really how they want the Nook to function?
If I'm looking at this the wrong way please let me know!
9v9 said:
I have the stock NookHD rooted but was wondering how best to implement a higher cache speed on my SD card (class 10 PNY) If I can use an app I'm hoping it does not mess with the /system, But maybe there is a better way? (A flashable zip in recovery)
The reason I ask is because when transferring media files between the pc and and BNTV400, it either lags/crashes or in other cases moving files already on the card says it will take upwards of 40 minutes to complete! Is this really how they want the Nook to function?
If I'm looking at this the wrong way please let me know!
If this post is in the wrong spot please move it.
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Part of the problem is that pny SD. They are horrible with these devices. And the stock kernel does a bad job with with external SDs. Not much you can do except get a different card.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
leapinlar said:
Part of the problem is that pny SD. They are horrible with these devices. And the stock kernel does a bad job with with external SDs. Not much you can do except get a different card.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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FYI, I'm using Trancend class 10 SD (32GB) on Nook HD+ and it seems to work with no issues. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633 thread has even list of good and bad flash cards (in terms of IO, especially random 4kb IO. You may check this thread choose a replacement.
leapinlar said:
Part of the problem is that pny SD. They are horrible with these devices. And the stock kernel does a bad job with with external SDs. Not much you can do except get a different card.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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How likely do you think it would be in the future that we get a custom kernel? Obviously I don't think any of us would be running the stock OS by then either but would it have an impact on the speeds both internal or external? I'm hoping it's not a limitation of the hardware.
Dmitriusan said:
FYI, I'm using Trancend class 10 SD (32GB) on Nook HD+ and it seems to work with no issues. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633 thread has even list of good and bad flash cards (in terms of IO, especially random 4kb IO. You may check this thread choose a replacement.
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I will look into it for future expansion, I just hope that it's the card and not hardware differences between nookHD and the HD+
9v9 said:
How likely do you think it would be in the future that we get a custom kernel? Obviously I don't think any of us would be running the stock OS by then either but would it have an impact on the speeds both internal or external? I'm hoping it's not a limitation of the hardware.
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If you are running CM10 on HD+ you are running a custom kernel. Verygreen builds his own from B&N source. And he customizes it. He says the SD problems seems to be hardware related.
But, because of locked bootloader issues, it may a long time before custom kernels come to stock.
Sent from my Nook HD running CM10.1 on SD

[Q] How to transfer all data in a hybrid TF card to a new card

Hi everybody:
Now I have installed hybrid CM10.1 on Nook HD in a 8G TF card. Then I would like to replace it with a new 32G card.
My question is how to transfer all the data, use the extra space and does not broke the system.
Thanks
Use win32diskimager to read the 8GB card to a file. The file will be 8GB. Then use win32diskimager to write that file to your new 32GB card. Then use partitioning software like Mini-Tool Partition Wizard to expand the last partition to the full size of the card.
The data on internal memory will remain and be unchanged. You should be able to boot the new SD just like it was the old one. The only difference will be your CM10SDCARD will be much larger.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
leapinlar said:
Use win32diskimager to read the 8GB card to a file. The file will be 8GB. Then use win32diskimager to write that file to your new 32GB card. Then use partitioning software like Mini-Tool Partition Wizard to expand the last partition to the full size of the card.
The data on internal memory will remain and be unchanged. You should be able to boot the new SD just like it was the old one. The only difference will be your CM10SDCARD will be much larger.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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Thank you! It works.
leapinlar said:
Use win32diskimager to read the 8GB card to a file. The file will be 8GB. Then use win32diskimager to write that file to your new 32GB card. Then use partitioning software like Mini-Tool Partition Wizard to expand the last partition to the full size of the card.
The data on internal memory will remain and be unchanged. You should be able to boot the new SD just like it was the old one. The only difference will be your CM10SDCARD will be much larger.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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If I use the win32diskimager utility to read my working 8GB MicroSD Class4 card it sees nothing because using read will only accept IMG files. There must be something that I am missing here, so please fill in the missing details.
I was going to post an image I created using Snagit of what I see when I attempt what you suggested, but the forum software won't let me.
I plan on trying a clone operation with GParted from the working 8GB SD card to the 32Gb SDHC card. I will post my results here
badger60 said:
If I use the win32diskimager utility to read my working 8GB MicroSD Class4 card it sees nothing because using read will only accept IMG files. There must be something that I am missing here, so please fill in the missing details.
I was going to post an image I created using Snagit of what I see when I attempt what you suggested, but the forum software won't let me.
I plan on trying a clone operation with GParted from the working 8GB SD card to the 32Gb SDHC card. I will post my results here
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I had made an empty ".txt" file, then rename it to ".img". It may solve the problem.
badger60 said:
If I use the win32diskimager utility to read my working 8GB MicroSD Class4 card it sees nothing because using read will only accept IMG files. There must be something that I am missing here, so please fill in the missing details.
I was going to post an image I created using Snagit of what I see when I attempt what you suggested, but the forum software won't let me.
I plan on trying a clone operation with GParted from the working 8GB SD card to the 32Gb SDHC card. I will post my results here
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Just type in a name. Like 8GB.img in the box. You do not have to actually create the file first, win32diskimager will create it. Then after it is done reading that write it back to your new card.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
attempt number 25
leapinlar said:
Just type in a name. Like 8GB.img in the box. You do not have to actually create the file first, win32diskimager will create it. Then after it is done reading that write it back to your new card.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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OK. Thanks. I am giving that a shot. I am going to try it on the Sandisk 16GB class 4 card first and then on the Samsung 32 GB class 6 unit. I will post my results here.
The results were negative with theSandisk 16 GB class 4 and Samsung 32GB class 6 HDSC cards. The 32 GB card went into a loop with the appearance of the CWM graphics and back to the initial Nook image. I let it cycle perhaps 10 times. I then tried the 16 GB card and had the same results.
badger60 said:
OK. Thanks. I am giving that a shot. I am going to try it on the Sandisk 16GB class 4 card first and then on the Samsung 32 GB class 6 unit. I will post my results here.
The results were negative with theSandisk 16 GB class 4 and Samsung 32GB class 6 HDSC cards. The 32 GB card went into a loop with the appearance of the CWM graphics and back to the initial Nook image. I let it cycle perhaps 10 times. I then tried the 16 GB card and had the same results.
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Since that did not seem to work for you, another option is to make a nandroid backup with your old card to internal memory. You might also want to save your files that you have on CM10SDCARD. Then reburn the new card, let it set itself up, flash CM, the converter and gapps to it. Then before you reboot, restore the backup you made earlier. It should then be set up the same when you reboot. Then restore your CM10SDCARD files.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on Hybrid SD
leapinlar said:
Since that did not seem to work for you, another option is to make a nandroid backup with your old card to internal memory. You might also want to save your files that you have on CM10SDCARD. Then reburn the new card, let it set itself up, flash CM, the converter and gapps to it. Then before you reboot, restore the backup you made earlier. It should then be set up the same when you reboot. Then restore your CM10SDCARD files.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on Hybrid SD
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I do appreciate the advice, but it didn't work on either SDHC card.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.0 on Hybrid
badger60 said:
I do appreciate the advice, but it didn't work on either SDHC card.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.0 on Hybrid
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What do you mean it didn't work? Where did it fail? During backup, during new SD creation or restore?
Edit: If somewhere along the line of your trying to fix this, you installed a new image to a card and booted with it before you did a nandroid backup of your old card, you wiped out the internal /data for the old card and it is not retrievable. If you did that, you just have to start over.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
leapinlar said:
What do you mean it didn't work? Where did it fail? During backup, during new SD creation or restore?
Edit: If somewhere along the line of your trying to fix this, you installed a new image to a card and booted with it before you did a nandroid backup of your old card, you wiped out the internal /data for the old card and it is not retrievable. If you did that, you just have to start over.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
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I followed your advice exactly. It appeared to work the same way that it did with the working 8GB SDHC card. I still have a nandroid backup of the old card on my PC. It just doesn't work on the two higher capacity SD cards I have. I see that I am going to have to look through the list and find the exact model of a 32 GB card that someone got working. It works fine on the Sandisk 8GB Class 4 card. The two Samsung cards (class 6) of 16 & 32 GB capacity that I own don't work. They are OK for storage use, but trying to install Android on them was a waste of time. I tried so many times. I used your tutorials and others tutorials unsuccessfully. A bum SD card is a bum SD card. I am not exactly a newbie at installing ROMs on devices . I have been doing it on my HTC Desire HD for about a year ever since HTC abandoned us and decided to not give us ICS or Jellybean for our expensive devices. I have Venom DHD on my HTC Desire HD at the moment. I am waiting for my new Samsung Galaxy s4 to arrive this week.

[Q] DIY for emmc-less Rom

My nook hd+ got bricked by the infamous lagfix app.I dont live in the US so I cant replace it. Verygreen made a special sd card install for me that worked on a emmc less system.It worked but since then I am stuck on a single Rom. So can someone please tell me how can I tweak a Rom to work on my emmc less tablet.Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hello my nook hd+ did the same when i run lagfix for the first time on carbon rom. Can you pleas upload the sd card image you have so I can use my Nook because there is no way to return it. I living in Eastern Europe and nook was a present from my brother business trip in USA.
mave2 said:
Hello my nook hd+ did the same when i run lagfix for the first time on carbon rom. Can you pleas upload the sd card image you have so I can use my Nook because there is no way to return it. I living in Eastern Europe and nook was a present from my brother business trip in USA.
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Look at verygreen's post here.
Worked very good i am using 16 GB card and it is nice and smooth. I just wont to ask you can I install CyanogenMod updates the are shown in the menu or they are not for this type SD only system.
mave2 said:
Worked very good i am using 16 GB card and it is nice and smooth. I just wont to ask you can I install CyanogenMod updates the are shown in the menu or they are not for this type SD only system.
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No, the updates are for internal memory only. They will not work on any SD. That is why the OP was asking for some way to convert them to this scheme.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app
Another question regarding the Nook hd+ tablets without internal memory, whether the use of the application lagfix / trim can cause more damage and may lead to the inability to boot or damage SD card or SD card controller inside the tablet.
mave2 said:
Another question regarding the Nook hd+ tablets without internal memory, whether the use of the application lagfix / trim can cause more damage and may lead to the inability to boot or damage SD card or SD card controller inside the tablet.
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You should not need lagfix on an SD setup, especially a no-emmc one. And nothing you do should effect the ability to boot from SD.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

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