I've been using third party chargers for a few days since my original email charger broke. However whenever I'm using the phone with a third party one the touchscreen is a bit less sensitive and responsive. However, I as soon as I take it out it behaves as normal. I wonder if this happens to anyone else? And also can it cause long lasting damage to the phone?
I too have the same problem.. its not that quite responsive when its charging.. Im using by the way the latest stock LC2.
I think this is inherent irregardless if your using the stock charger or any 3rd party charger for that matter. This issue is not on the chargers actually but on the 'laggyness' on the Note's screen when your using it (while it's charging).
iftheman said:
I've been using third party chargers for a few days since my original email charger broke. However whenever I'm using the phone with a third party one the touchscreen is a bit less sensitive and responsive. However, I as soon as I take it out it behaves as normal. I wonder if this happens to anyone else? And also can it cause long lasting damage to the phone?
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+1 Also observed this when charging from a friend's HTC charger, also read a thread about this a while ago, although there was no definitive answer from what I read, just people reporting the issue...
Sorry mate, no solution from me, but you can be sure you're not the only one experiencing this issue.
I'd imagine it has something to do with the fact that the charger may not be able to supply the power that the larger Note battery needs...
LE: No, charging with its original charger or my S2 charger, or even my Galaxy Ace's charger does not make it less responsive. HTC charger...does
Used to have same problem with iphone too. Cheap Chinese chargers have same effect.
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I think from a simple deduction, when your charging, your actually charging the phone's screen itself. Now this maybe wrong but I've read somewhere that what's mainly holding the power on all touchscreen phone is the actual screen itself.
So if your charging the phone, your actually charging the screen and if your using the phone(naturally using the screen itself) you are in effect disturbing the charge because the power it needs to fill up to recharge the phone is being use also to discharge it (thru constantly using the phone itself.)
This is an issue with many android devices. And some do it even with the OEM charger. I've personally experienced it on 3-4 of my phones.
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This happened on my HTC EVO even with the factory charger.
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I think if I'm not mistaken.. this all happens to all touchscreens out there, irregardless on what brand or make/model your using.
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I think from a simple deduction, when your charging, your actually charging the phone's screen itself. Now this maybe wrong but I've read somewhere that what's mainly holding the power on all touchscreen phone is the actual screen itself.
So if your charging the phone, your actually charging the screen and if your using the phone(naturally using the screen itself) you are in effect disturbing the charge because the power it needs to fill up to recharge the phone is being use also to discharge it (thru constantly using the phone itself.)
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Sorry, but this is bull****. Phones have batteries like any other portable device, and this is what is charged.
I am speculating entirely but it is most likely that the voltage coming in from the USB cable is ****ing with however the screen detects your finger (i.e, via capacitive sensing). More speculating but I assume that having some sort of electric field near a capacitive screen will cause issues in detection (I've had the same effect happen with the capacitive buttons near a plasma ball; they caused false detections of the button being pushed). Then again, the phone is full of electronics + radio transmitter so I might be wrong.
Basically, buy a better cable, or it might just be a general fault with this sort of thing.
My HD2's screen used to go crazy when I charged it with a Chinese charger, like random screen touches at warp speed. If I used a well made charger, all was well.
The touch screen did eventually die on the HD2, and I had to send it back for repair under warranty. Now, if I get any jittering/non-responsive screen behaviour, I ditch the charger.
I've experienced this too, but it is not necessarily the charger, but the amount of power delivered by the charger.
I used to live in a rural area and the power supply was bad. We only got about 150V through the wall socket instead of the full 240V.
Using my stock charger on my Galaxy S, the screen was laggy, but if I used the same charger on a good power outlet in town, it was fine.
I've also used cheap no name chargers that are laggy even on a "good" wall socket.
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Sorry, but this is bull****. Phones have batteries like any other portable device, and this is what is charged.
I am speculating entirely but it is most likely that the voltage coming in from the USB cable is ****ing with however the screen detects your finger (i.e, via capacitive sensing). More speculating but I assume that having some sort of electric field near a capacitive screen will cause issues in detection (I've had the same effect happen with the capacitive buttons near a plasma ball; they caused false detections of the button being pushed). Then again, the phone is full of electronics + radio transmitter so I might be wrong.
Basically, buy a better cable, or it might just be a general fault with this sort of thing.
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speculation and assumptions are just cousins..
Anyway, you are talking about capacitive sensing and stuffs. Capacitives and resistives only apply to touchscreens and none on qwerty phones. Your 'speculation' about electric fields on capacitive screens are actually correct, but I would like to go back to what I said again, the phone draws power from the screen itself. So when you touch the screen (to perform gestures on it), you are actually drawing out power from the phone. your finger performs a conductance to the screen. Your say of 'false detection of the button being pushed' are actually magnetic fields that is try extrapolate from your fingers (as a magnet) to the screen, thereby causing a marginal errors on the screen's predefine calibration.
That is why you may have notice that whenever you have your phone charge, and your actually using for example to type a message on your phone, you can clearly see a margin of seconds in delay when letters will be registered to your message.
Try to simulate that with the phone charge and when it's not. Clearly you will see what I mean.
this is what the word- ferromagnetism is all about.
anyway, I won't delved with that as it's in the realm of physics already.
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Had this same problem on my Dell Streak5 when using a non stock charger. The fix at that time was to purchase the small longitudinal magnets that are made to surround and clamp onto the usb cable. I had to place two on the end closest to the Streak. Corrected 80-90% of the problem.
I got the magnets at Radio Shack. It's been nearly two years ago, but I think I paid about $6 for a pack of 2.
kraz
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I've experienced this too, but it is not necessarily the charger, but the amount of power delivered by the charger.
I used to live in a rural area and the power supply was bad. We only got about 150V through the wall socket instead of the full 240V.
Using my stock charger on my Galaxy S, the screen was laggy, but if I used the same charger on a good power outlet in town, it was fine.
I've also used cheap no name chargers that are laggy even on a "good" wall socket.
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What? Only 150V? I don't believe it. How then other things work?
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Well I was told it was 150V.
It took a lot longer to charge my phone or laptop there than it did at work in town (using the same charger in both locations), so there was definitely a lower current coming through.
Solved irresponsive screen when charging
After eight months trying to find a solution, today I have tried with my iphone 4 charger and my Kindle cable and, for the first time,I am able to write properly, as I weren't plugged. I have to say I don't like this device, it's very slow and the screen goes green almost everyday.
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Well this problem is not because of screen quality. Its all about with the wavelength of current supply and change in frequency . Its create some magnetic field and makes your screen behave weird. When we get proper ellectric supply we don't face such problems. Also cheap chargers don't follow quality levels and they generate uneven frequency thats why flux created by them makes screen behave weird.
This happened to my old HTC Incredible S (Vivo).
It only happened when the 5V charger was lower than 1A.
Quite strange.
But you could check if your charger has at least a 1A output.
Should be on there somewhere.
The stock Samsung chargers are 1A as well I believe.
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Daan
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Hello, I have could this problem is happening to other people but. Haven't could a solution for it.
Whenvi Plugg my galaxy into the charger the touch screen either doesn't respond or pressing in a spot I haven't pressed. I think this problem is because the screen is capacitive but this doesn't happen at all with my ipod touch.
This makes the phone impossible to work with with while its plugged in
Any solution for this?
it might be defective
or simply it needs to be re-calibrated
mine doesn't do it
but i have read on the forum many people had the same problem as you do
they either took it back for warranty or got it fixed some how
i think it should work as soon as you recalibrate the touch screen when it's plugged in
How do I calibrate it?
Are you not using the original charger?
I'm getting this too, with the original charger, but not with a usb charger.
Seems to be related: http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700612
And this: http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=673330
Happens with my brothers I9000 too! D:
On mine if I'm not TOUCHING the phone case or it's charging the touchscreen gives unreliable input.
90% of the time this isn't a problem because I have to hold the phone in order to use it.
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I just got this phone and I am having the exact same problem. Using either the original charger or an apple ipod charger I have the same issue. It also happens on the original ROM and on Darky's. It works fine while it's plugged into a computer and charging though.
Has anyone been able to remedy this problem without sending it in for warranty repair?
hi, i get this too, only happens when plugged in.
anyone find a fix?
ok, i kinda found it out.
Its because the charger being used isnt properly grounded or something which means there is a small electrical charge being picked up the screen which causes the screen to jump about. Doesnt happen when the phone isnt plugged in or when its being charged via micro usb connected to my laptop so I think the charger is to blame not software
according to someone else its because of
It will be high-frequency noise on the DC output voltage of the charger. Chargers use a high-frequency DC-DC converter method and the cheaper ones don't do a very good job of filtering the high frequency out of the DC at the other end. This noise enters your phone and plays havoc with the sensitive circuits in the capacitive touchscreen.
It is nothing to do with grounding of the input side of the power supply; when you ground the output side (the USB plug) with your hand, your body capacitance filters out some/all of the noise.
but anyway at the end of the day its still a fault with the charger whatever the technical details maybe.
Is there a charger out there that will not experience these problems?
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Is there a charger out there that will not experience these problems?
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I have the same problem with the original charger. But by using the charger that came with my logitech mouse, I have eliminated the screens erratic behaviour while charging. The original charger is collecting dust now.
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I have the same problem with the original charger. But by using the charger that came with my logitech mouse, I have eliminated the screens erratic behaviour while charging. The original charger is collecting dust now.
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Could you post some details about your charger? 2/3 Pin? voltage? amperage? Input/output amounts? etc...
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Could you post some details about your charger? 2/3 Pin? voltage? amperage? Input/output amounts? etc...
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The wall-charger has an output of 5V, 1A. Input is 100-240V, 50/60Hz, 180mA. Looks like 3-pins. It came bundeled with my Logitech G700. Also, when I plug the phone in, I get those three choices you usually get when charging from a pc: "Kies-mode", "mass storage" etc. I just press return on my phone when I see this. So it seems as if this charger is a bit more advanced with some kind of chip in it. Perhaps any Logitech/Microsoft-charger will do.
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Looks like 3-pins.
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Pin was the wrong word, I meant prongs. Does it have two or three that go into the wall socket? The third being the grounding wire.
I have a charger for my bluetooth headset but it only outputs 550mA. Is that enough to charge the phone. The original is 700mA.
So I just noticed something really bizarre with my Nook. The touchscreen started freaking out with false touches all over the screen. I used the Dolphin gesture interface to see what was going on, and every touch would register random touch points all over the place.
This happened while plugged into the Nook charger. The issue went away immediately after unplugging from the charger. I was afraid it was a heat issue, but this is not the case. I suspect it is the charger, and I am hoping it is not the touchscreen itself.
Has anyone else experienced a similar issue? I will try another charger later today and see if the problem is sill there.
--MrAnt--
I myself experienced something similar where the default browser kept doing odd things I just restarted and it seems to have gone away.
I tried restarting as well and the issue was still there. It only went away when I disconnected the charger.
--MrAnt--
I've had my nook for two weeks now and have noticed the same thing - weird touchscreen behaviour that goes away the instant I unplug the charger (usb).
I have seen this behavior on phones when I attempted to use cheap chargers. I suspect the voltage was not within tolerance and it caused the problem, based on the testing that I did. If you are using the original charger that came with the unit, you should try to obtain a new one.
I get this issue if my screen gets even slightly smudged. I think that once the official App Store comes I'm going back to stock and getting a warranty replacement.
This is a well known issue with many of the units.
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This is a well known issue with many of the units.
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I had the same issue with my first unit, I have had it replaced twice, (not because of this, but another issue). My current unit works fine connected to power. However It came with stock 1.0.1 and that may have fixed the issue in software.
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The issue is most likey wit the stock charger wall wart. I have noticed that mine makes some VERY loud buzzing when plugged in and no cable plugged in. Prolly cheap caps in there. Poor filtering at best. This electrical noise is likely causing false capacitance spikes in the screen.
Almost tempted to order a spare and tear it down...put some electronics skills to use and build a better mousetrap as it were.
This happens to me as well. I have used family members and girlfriend Nook charger and it still happens. It doesn't affect 1 out of the 4 I bought.
So I figured out what was causing the problem. I was trying to use the charger plugged into a DC-AC inverter. The problem went away as soon as I plugged it into an AC outlet. I guess the Nook charger is sensitive to non-pure sine waves.
deadbot1, I noticed my charger also buzzes rather loudly when plugged in but not charging. I guess the chargers are not the greatest quality, based on the other comments here.
--MrAnt--
Yep, definitely low quality under the case. I've noticed that mine gets flat out HOT if charging from a low battery condition as well.
Once I'm back to work(stupid snow in SD) and have more free cash coming in I am going to order a spare and reverse engineer it with the goal of building a better replacement. I'll be posting my specs and designs as I go. Gotta see whats in there first...but I'm pretty sure that my new one will be based around a TS7805CZlinear regulator and a picaxe uMC if it needs brains.
I bought a dock and wall charger from Amazon a few weeks ago for my Nexus S. The dock works fine, but when I plug my phone into the wall charger it makes the touchscreen do very odd things. It starts to get very laggy, and it also seems to misjudge where I touch or tap by a great distance. When I unplug my phone from this charger it works correctly again. This problem doesn't happen with the charger that came with the phone itself. Any idea why this could be happening?
The charger you bought is likely not sufficiently isolated from mains. Some part of the mains frequency might leak through and confuse the touch sensor.
Mind, I am not saying that it is not safe to use.
Sorry to come into your thread to ask a question.
But I have a question about charger too.
At home, I use the original charger that came with Nexus S. My battery seems to last very long.
At dorm, I use the so called Samsung charger I bought from eBay [it says it's legit and it sure looks like one] but battery doesn't seem to last as long as I would expect.
Settings and usage/variables are not exactly same but - for example, I got 22 hours with 40% left with home setting, while I would have to charge my phone usually after 6-8 hours at dorm.
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The charger you bought is likely not sufficiently isolated from mains. Some part of the mains frequency might leak through and confuse the touch sensor.
Mind, I am not saying that it is not safe to use.
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I'm thinking at this point I'm not going to risk it
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At home, I use the original charger that came with Nexus S. My battery seems to last very long.
At dorm, I use the so called Samsung charger I bought from eBay [it says it's legit and it sure looks like one] but battery doesn't seem to last as long as I would expect.
Settings and usage/variables are not exactly same but - for example, I got 22 hours with 40% left with home setting, while I would have to charge my phone usually after 6-8 hours at dorm.
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Try swapping the chargers to test. But I honestly think it is not the charger's fault, if your battery is full both times. More likely there are other circumstances, like bad reception, or your phone is searching for wlan all the time or whatever. Try going to the battery monitor in settings somewhere, there you can see what it using power. I can't direct you there exactly because I have a non-english language running.
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I'm thinking at this point I'm not going to risk it
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As I said, your charger very likely is just as safe as all the other Chinese electronic stuff. It is just not filtered/stabilized enough and so it confuses the touch screen. Keep in mind that the touch screen works by sensing a very small capacity change. Some overlaid interference can probably easily disturb it.
Hi,
I have this strange problem happening since yesterday on my brand new Salsa. When I put it on charging and leave it on a wooden table, the touch screen responds weird to my touch. The ring lock will not open all the way or shortcuts will work weird. The soft keys at the bottom too go absurd not responding or giving different options.
If I pick the handset (probably providing grounding), everything works normal thereafter. I'm using only the original charger provided with handset.
Additionally even the sound into my car's auxillary port is behaving as weird filtering or dimming the vocal frequencies but allowing the music to get through.
Does anyone know why this is happening?
Only incident to have caused this I guess is when the sales guy I went to plugged the phone onto a blackberry charger yesterday for a few seconds.
Could it have caused some damage to some internal part - diode or something that is leaking AC voltage onto the capacitive screen ? Can I have it repaired at HTC ?
Since it's not even a week old, I'm too distressed about the weirdness. PLEASE HELP!
does seem like it could of done some damage as blackberry's do take a lot more juice than the salsa, personally i would take it back and tell them about the problems you have had only since the dude abused the phone lol
I will surely be taking it back but want to confirm if its the problem with the phone or charger, because I do not see this problem when I charge from my laptops USB.
And I want to know what it is before I take it to them. Its much safer to find the problem and tell them rather than allowing them to figure it out themselves and in turn damage something else.
Thanks
your laptop will deal 5v 1a max before the computer will cut off the usb supply due to risk of overload, new blackberry chargers deal a lot more than that due to the juice the device needs to charge, almost like different laptop chargers the difference in the supply would kill your laptop, i don't have any problems with my device regardless of surface it is resting on.
I have the same problem
I have the same problem, but it was observed from the time of purchase. So do not worry and take the phone in hand))
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With some searching I resolved this problem or I can say I at least know why this is happening.
It is the charger that is faulty and not the handset. I changed it with another HTC charger I had and the problem disappeared. I figured the most logical explanation is what I read in one of the post elsewhere in this forum.
The charger could be faulty to be leaking some AC voltage along with the charging DC juice. This leaked voltage interferes with the sensitive capacitive touch screen. If we hold the handset in hand, we are providing a natural grounding and hence the problem disappears.
I personally would not like this to continue and so I'm going to take it back to my vendor for replacing the charger or if the need be, buy a new one.
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I have the same problem, but it was observed from the time of purchase. So do not worry and take the phone in hand))
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Try using another charger and see the difference. Hope you can get your charger repaired or replaced!
Take care.
this is due to a grounding problem or/and leaked ac current....
This problem occurs when your charger supplies more power than required by the phone to charge.The only solution for your prolem is changing your charger.
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I had once another problem, that my Salsa overheated (red-green blinking) when I charged it and my Wifi was on. Maybe a background-process could be responsible.
Had this phone for a couple of weeks now and basically I'm really happy with it. I just noticed a couple of things while charging that are bugging me.
First of all, when I plug in my phone I can sense the charging current in my finger that touches the metal plate on the bottom of the phone. It's just a very slight sensation, but I can amplify it a little when using the Sony quick charger (I remember reading a similar thing about Macbook Airs a couple of years back).
The thing that is really bugging me, though, is that the touchscreen is getting way too responsive. For example, I use Swype for typing and when my phone is plugged in I simply cannot type. I made a short video, first paragraph shows typing while plugged in, second paragraph is unplugged. I've also noticed this while using other apps, it's hard to describe, but it seems as if the phone registers some touches as clicks even though I'm just scrolling a website or browsing Twitter.
Has anyone else encountered this? Thanks for your help! Michael.
It's not normal to have leaking current, it's probably also the cause of anomalies you're describing. I recommend getting it checked by a Sony service center.
arzinger said:
Had this phone for a couple of weeks now and basically I'm really happy with it. I just noticed a couple of things while charging that are bugging me.
First of all, when I plug in my phone I can sense the charging current in my finger that touches the metal plate on the bottom of the phone. It's just a very slight sensation, but I can amplify it a little when using the Sony quick charger (I remember reading a similar thing about Macbook Airs a couple of years back).
The thing that is really bugging me, though, is that the touchscreen is getting way too responsive. For example, I use Swype for typing and when my phone is plugged in I simply cannot type. I made a short video, first paragraph shows typing while plugged in, second paragraph is unplugged. I've also noticed this while using other apps, it's hard to describe, but it seems as if the phone registers some touches as clicks even though I'm just scrolling a website or browsing Twitter.
Has anyone else encountered this? Thanks for your help! Michael.
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wondering how you got on with this, i had this last night and remembered your post! i actually had this with another charger years ago with a different phone. in both cases, swapping the charger for another one fixed the problem. last night, holding my finger on the screen was registering as a load of very rapid taps (you can imagine how crazy the vibration motor went). so yep, tried another charger, all good.
I use the Sony UCH12 and an original LG USB-C cable that is certified for QC3 (because I lost my Sony one) to charge my phone. While it does quick charge, like OP, I can't really use the phone while charging. The touch sensitivity becomes weird, like it will register multiple presses or inaccurate touches.
This problem does not occur when I use a QC2.0 certified powerbank though.
On a side note, the charging brick supplied in the box is a normal "slow charge" brick. Does Sony not want us to quick charge?
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On a side note, the charging brick supplied in the box is a normal "slow charge" brick. Does Sony not want us to quick charge?
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i assume they just want us to pay more.
ClintonPuah said:
On a side note, the charging brick supplied in the box is a normal "slow charge" brick. Does Sony not want us to quick charge?
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This varies by region, here the default supplied is the quick charger. But, for example, we didn't get the free bluetooth headset offer some places got.
You are not alone:
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