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[Q] Video Questions

I've installed RockPlayer on the NC and it seems to run standard def video (avi) that I've got in the 20-25 fps range while hd (720p) video is pretty much a slide show. What are the NC's capabilities video wise?
I ran quadrant and can see that the 3D performance isn't good compared to my Samsung Captivate but does that apply to video as well? I've played the same videos on my Captivate using RockPlayer and the stock video player and the stock player works much better than RockPlayer on the phone with much smoother playback. I've tried to copy the video player to the NC but get install errors every time so I'm guessing that it's incompatible.
Are there better video players that people recommend?

I am using mixzing to watch my movies. Works great!

Anyone else getting out of sync audio on... Everything? I've tried lots of sw player and not a one was in sync (avi, mp4, sd, hd). From what I've read, 2.2 should fix this, but bummer if it doesn't. I've got an ipad, and want to want the nook instead since the ipad isn't the laptop replace I thout it would be.
EDIT: Looks like MP4's are in Sync, so I assume it's the FFMPEG software decode that these players are using, as the MP4 should be done in hardware. Hopefully this thing'll get 2.2 before Jan. 3rd when my B&N return is up!

plympton said:
Anyone else getting out of sync audio on... Everything? I've tried lots of sw player and not a one was in sync (avi, mp4, sd, hd). From what I've read, 2.2 should fix this, but bummer if it doesn't. I've got an ipad, and want to wNt the nook instead since the ipad isn't the laptop replace I thout it would be.
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I'm having the same problem and hoping someone figures out why. I can't imagine it's a hardware problem...

What exactly is the point on watching a HD file in a non HD device? With the Nook's screen you can get away with a 480P video and it'll look fantastic. Lower resolutions will look pretty decent too. Pixels are all nice and good but there's a time and a place for everything... well, in this case only a place and that's your living room big screen TV

Using the stock player on the Nook I am having no issues with audio and video staying in sync.

Mixzing is great, but won't play avi files. I don't want to have to convert all my files just to play on one device...

act 1 video player works fine for me no sync issues

godsfilth said:
act 1 video player works fine for me no sync issues
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Per your post I checked this out and you are right...it does work great with more options while playing. I think the only way to "back" out of a movie is to use the "n" button though. ?

[Q] Best Video Player is?

Been trying to find a good video player...all seem to lag quite a bit or are quite choppy...anyone have any luck with any working really good? If so, please share!

I like rockplayer. Used it for a bit on the plane yesterday.

Is there a certain resolution you encoding videos too or will rock player handle anything?

i have an android phone and I use both rockplayer and mvideoplayer. rockplayer handles avi files well but not mkv files. mvideoplayer handles both.
i don't have a nook color but I would assume if you have a rooted nook(and have access to market) you could get these players and they should work since the processing seems the same.
i'm interested in a rooted nook color but can't seem to find if anyone has actually tried these apps.

rockplayer on the nook can handle 480p non hd videos fine in the mkv or avi containers. anything higher than that and you start to get audio and video seperation because the proc cant keep the video going at the propper pace

oscarfrancois said:
i have an android phone and I use both rockplayer and mvideoplayer. rockplayer handles avi files well but not mkv files. mvideoplayer handles both.
i don't have a nook color but I would assume if you have a rooted nook(and have access to market) you could get these players and they should work since the processing seems the same.
i'm interested in a rooted nook color but can't seem to find if anyone has actually tried these apps.
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im using mplayer on mine right now and watching some mp4 videos, not an hd file ... but the proper ratio and it looks killer ... totally worth 250 bucks

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I use Vplayer beta and i strongly recomend it. it plays most videos well and only lags a bit when you get to real high quality videos

i bought a nook color and tried it out...so far video playback is not that great.
mvideo player seems to have a very slight audio lag when i played a standard avi file(not converted or optimized for nook color) and no mkv files work on any of the players.
i think this has something to do with the internal videoplayer itself and not really the actually processing power of the nookcolor.
looks like i will have to just convert files to mp4...an extra step but I read more than watch videos.

If you are using anything other than an mp4 file extension then you're using software decoding. Software decoding will only go as smoothly as the CPU allows. I've found when using software decoding I can handle AVIs up to standard def in Rockplayer. (480) I get a tiny bit of stutter at the start, but it smooths out within 60 seconds.
However, if you use hardware decoding, (only works with mp4 files) you can probably push the resolution up a bit. I have a 720x400 file at a video bitrate of 800 that plays instantly and smoothly in the native player and in Rockplayer. I plan to go home and push the resolution a bit further and see where it starts to desync, so once I do I'll report back.
tl;dr: Anything other than mp4 has to be standard def or lower and played in a 3rd party player that can do software decoding, like Rockplayer. Anything in mp4 can be played in anything that does hardware decoding, and can probably go quite a bit higher than SD.

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urbanengine1 said:
I use Vplayer beta and i strongly recomend it. it plays most videos well and only lags a bit when you get to real high quality videos
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I encountered an error while installing vplayer beta. didn't you get any?

Video playbacks on nook color?

Hi guys, I have searched about the video playback capability of nook color.
I found information that has been posted since december but i am not sure if there are any changes since then. Can nook color play avi and m4v now? without the conversion?
And is adobe flash available for it right now as its already on 2.2?
I seems like I can't get information about it and all i got was about the flashing of nook color. and videos of nook color.
please enlighten me. i am currently so tempted to buy nook color.

Currently video playback is very limited, and hardly any formats are supported. As for flash, it is supported somewhat on the Froyo 2.2 builds for the Nook Color, however, it is still recommended that you run those from the sdcard as the EMMC builds are still highly unstable. With the current progression on Stock, Froyo, and even Honeycomb, we can only guess that flash and video support is right around the corner, especially once A3.0 becomes AOSP.

I use radtools or mcebuddy for batch conversion to vanilla mp4. Works great
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rockplayer in the market will play avi's and what not

thanks for the replies guys!
was thinking of buying it already but it seems like there are no stock on bestbuy.com .
stock seems to be available at B&N but bestbuy gives a free cover.
but bestbuy gotta wait for around 2 weeks! !

I use handbrake (free) to transcode movies to mp4 which plays beautifully on the nook
Alsos use mVideoPlayer which also supports import of subtitle files

waiteck said:
thanks for the replies guys!
was thinking of buying it already but it seems like there are no stock on bestbuy.com .
stock seems to be available at B&N but bestbuy gives a free cover.
but bestbuy gotta wait for around 2 weeks! !
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i tried to get a nook color through a online store.
But: its out of stock everywhere: b&n, bestbuy, wallmart, booksamillion. even if they say that its in stock, it wont be until the 15.2.
you can try at ebay.com or amazon.com...,

Yeah, be careful with the online inventory counts from Bestbuy and Walmart. Sometimes they say they have units on hand and they don't. I've even heard about people calling into Barnes & Noble and the "kids" that work there said they had several and it turns out they were sold out for days.

guys, try this : VitalPlayer. It's free and it's the best one I've ever had in the market.
It can play avi, mkv,wmv,mp4 as such, the best thing is: its software decoding is SOOOOOOO good. If you just play some videos not in HD resolution, this tool can give you almost no lag, no sound delay experience.
Try it and you'll like it just like me.

I have tried Rockplayer, VPlayer, XYZ, and VirtualPlayer. With all of them my AVI files have the audio out of sync. I tried to convert the AVI's to MP4 with DVDFab and the audio was still out of sync. What program will definitely convert from AVI to MP4 while keeping the audio and video in sync?

Handbrake, without a doubt the easiest and best quality IMO.
I too have tried other video players and have seen audio sync issues with them. Using the built in gallery app on my stock rooted nook though video playback is perfect. I have bluray rips of a few select faves for my son on my nook, specifically coded at 854 pixels wide with constant quality set to 20 and they look fantastic on the nook's standard video player but skip and drop frames on vplayer or rock player regardless of what kernel I run (stock 800mhz or overclocked). I haven't tried playback using vplayer or rock in Nookie Froyo yet, maybe I'll try that tonight.

Same here - I have had no luck with any of the other media players.

muzzy996 said:
Handbrake, without a doubt the easiest and best quality IMO.
I too have tried other video players and have seen audio sync issues with them. Using the built in gallery app on my stock rooted nook though video playback is perfect. I have bluray rips of a few select faves for my son on my nook, specifically coded at 854 pixels wide with constant quality set to 20 and they look fantastic on the nook's standard video player but skip and drop frames on vplayer or rock player regardless of what kernel I run (stock 800mhz or overclocked). I haven't tried playback using vplayer or rock in Nookie Froyo yet, maybe I'll try that tonight.
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If you do, please post findings…thanks…

Cool, was looking for mkv playback...will check out vitalplayer.

I have tried Rockplayer, VPlayer, XYZ, and VirtualPlayer. With all of them my AVI files have the audio out of sync. I tried to convert the AVI's to MP4 with DVDFab and the audio was still out of sync.
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Did you try your AVI in your PC? A lot of times, the video file itself may be out-of-sync. In that case, no matter how you convert it, it won't work.

The AVI files play fine on my Archos 70 using RockPlayer.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G using XDA App

Played around a little more last night and confirmed that for me playback of my mp4 h.264 videos encoded to meet nook specs play flawlessly in the standard player in eclair and the nookie froyo 0.68 image. Playback in vplayer or rockplayer suffers audio sync issues due to dropped frames though I noted that playback of video in vplayer in froyo was much better than in eclair.
I'm really wondering how it is people are getting flawless playback in vplayer. I expected to see it in froyo seeing as I was using a clean SD card boot image (latest distro) .
Its not a huge deal for me since the stock video player plays well but it does mean having to re-encode my fave TV shows from xvid avi to h.264 mp4 before loading them onto the nook.
Sent from my rooted Nook Color using TapaTalk

The Nook Gallery seems to be the only thing that will playback videos without a video/audio sync problem. I use VideoReo to re-encode my videos into a h.264 format for Android phones. They look great on the Nook. VideoRedo is pretty expensive (I use it for converting .tivo videos) but it is a Cadillac. Handbrake is supposed to be a good free alternative.
Is there any way to get the stock Google Gallery app from Eclair onto a V1.1 rooted Nook?

I'm running brianf21's 0.6.7 Nookie 2.2 image off of the SD card. Flash wasn't working in browser so I uninstalled Flash 10.1 in the market, rebooted, and re-installed.
Embedded youtube videos now working in the browser.
From his thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324) the only thing I could see was reported success with 0.5.9 so hope this is helpful.

Handbreak.

What is the current status of video capabilities with rooted CN, esp 720p?

With all the new roms forcolor nook out what is the status of its ability of playing videos, especially 720 mp4 and mkvs downloaded from the internet without having to reencode the files?
Which rom/player combination is best for this?

I'd like to know also. Currently using Rockplayer on HC from the EMMC, and videos from my camera shot at 640x 480 and esp 848x480 are quite slow and jerky. Definitely not something to show someone else.
Anyone have recommendations?

DSP/HW accel is not working in all non-stock roms and is being worked on, but even in the stock rooted, I doubt it plays 720p well enough, unless it's been encoded into an mp4 or something that's natively supported.

timekeeper said:
DSP/HW accel is not working in all non-stock roms and is being worked on, but even in the stock rooted, I dou
bt it plays 720p well enough, unless it's been encoded into an mp4 or something that's natively supported.
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That is not true. Hardware decoding works in Froyo, just not in CM7 or HC.
It is true that files need be rencoding in compliant MP4 files for them to work. You need a dual core tablet for downloaded mkv support.

poofyhairguy said:
That is not true. Hardware decoding works in Froyo, just not in CM7 or HC.
It is true that files need be rencoding in compliant MP4 files for them to work. You need a dual core tablet for downloaded mkv support.
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My bad - I only tried nookie froyo on the SD and used it for less than 10 minutes.

I can't get hardware to work in Froyo on either Vital player or Rock Player. Anyone getting hardware decoding to work on Froyo?
How are you doing it?

no hardware accceleration on nookie froyo either for me. Able to play 720p AVI smoothly by using vital player neon on software decoding.

If working hardware decoding means that mp4 can be played with standart Movies application, than yes, it works for me in Nookie Froyo on eMMC.

Sounds like Nookie Froyo is the one to get (for now) if you want h/w acceleration for video.

I've been trying to get high quality video to run on my 2.1 NC for a few days and can't seem to get the audio to match up with the video. mp4 video, 800x480, 1200 bitrate, 25 gps looks great but the sound is off. Pissed.
Sent from my LogicPD Zoom2 using XDA App

Paul Paulson said:
I've been trying to get high quality video to run on my 2.1 NC for a few days and can't seem to get the audio to match up with the video. mp4 video, 800x480, 1200 bitrate, 25 gps looks great but the sound is off. Pissed.
Sent from my LogicPD Zoom2 using XDA App
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That bitrate is slightly too high.

I tried all the video players I could grab from the market with my rooted NC.
Rockplayer actually doesn't seem to be very good. It lagged at times. I'm not sure it's using full hardware acceleration, or maybe it's not able to fully use or is not recognizing the NC's hardware acceleration.
The best player for getting finicky files to work was vPlayer. It has a "high quality" mode which I'm guessing supplements the hardware acceleration with software decoding to make up for features which the hardware doesn't support. It was able to play video files that the stock video player and others refused to play. I think it was playing them slower than full speed though - was hard to tell with the video samples I used.
It is a pay app with a free trial. When not in "high quality" mode, it would still play the finicky video files, but with visible errors in the decoding. A couple of the other players also did this. I guess instead of refusing to play, they just throw the file at the hardware and display whatever comes out. But vPlayer was the only one with an option to "fix" the errors. If you're not encoding your own videos, definitely give this one a shot.
I'm using mVideoPlayer for now. It's limited to the same file formats the stock player can play, but I really like the interface (swipe to seek forward/back, long-press in corners to adjust volume/brightness). And it automatically generates lists of videos from a customizable directory list. No more having to search through a file browser - my videos on both the emmc and microsd now show up in one big list.
The main problem is you need a back button to use it. If you don't hit back to stop playing a file, the next time you try to play any video file, it resumes playing the old file where you left off. But if you use softkeys to give you a back button, it puts an ugly circle on top of your video...

poofyhairguy said:
That is not true. Hardware decoding works in Froyo, just not in CM7 or HC.
It is true that files need be rencoding in compliant MP4 files for them to work. You need a dual core tablet for downloaded mkv support.
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Not really true. My Samsung galaxy plays 720p mkv's without issues. That's a single core phone.
I think in reaility we just have to wait for hardware decoding to be ported over.

really hope dev can get h/w acceleration going for custom rom, especially cm7. On related issue, my NC with cm7 can play flash video and frame rate is low though (looks like slide show with 360P video).

Not NC related (haven't rooted yet), but having just played with (thanks to this thread) vPlayer, I can say it is definitely the superior program. My EVO handled a 720p .mkv file that rockplayer gave 6-10fps on, it was watchable and had no sync issues besides the occasional slow-down.
+1 for the tip.

I believe hardware decode works on Android 2.1 Auto Nooter 3.0. I have that installed and it works in rock player and vital player.
One thing to note is the hardware decoder can only decode a max width of 854. So your 720p files will not work with hardware encoding. You will have to re-encode the files.
I used this guide http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...using-handbrake-convert-video-nook-color.html and it seemed to work fine.

BSPlayer - A good video player, but with a quirk.

BACKGROUND STORY NO ONE ASKED FOR FIRST:
I was using MX Video Player for awhile, but was kind of annoyed at how it would drop a frame every now and then with some of my video files (even using the Motorola sanctioned x264 encoding options of no CABAC, no B-Frames, no weighted-P or 8x8 DCT) and wanted to look for a new video player.
I was turned onto both Dice Player and BS Player. Both of these players seemed to play back video much better than MX Video Player, with no stutter or frame drop in my 720p files, so I was mostly happy. However, both of them had an issue I didn't like. Dice Player's software was only available in Trial form since their checkout account was suspended. BS Player wouldn't seek in some of my MKV files.
I scrapped Dice Player as there was no workaround for the BIG ASS CLICK HERE TO BUY BANNER AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN at the moment, but I started to investigate why BS Player wouldn't seek in some of my movies yet seek in others. (Dice Player seeked no problem, same for MX Video Player.)
My investigation concluded with BS Player having some sort of seeking problem with any movie file that was over 2GB. (That's 2,147,483,648 or 2,048MB.)
Other than that and what some say an interface that needs to be worked on, I think it's a great program. Just wanted to give a heads up to anyone who uses this player or is looking for a good movie player the quirk I found with it...
Most of my encodes with the proper baseline profile at CQ 22/AAC 160 are usually under 2GB, but I s'pose for the 3 movies I have that have issues, I'll try for CQ 23/AAC 128 and see if it is under 2GB and acceptable quality.
Hope this helps someone!!

Yea man - I agree. I was having issues w/ my MKV files - found Dice player and it worked fine - went to buy it but nogo. Found BS Player - works great as well.
Interface is a bit clunky - but I can live w/ that!
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Hi,
How you installed the bsplayer on xoom, since market says it's incompatible?
using tiamat rom. Any help?

mateoosh said:
Hi,
How you installed the bsplayer on xoom, since market says it's incompatible?
using tiamat rom. Any help?
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I'm stock.

New version of this app in the Market today. Fixes my quirk plus adds ICS support. What what!

I must issue a warning... don't download the latest update to this software. Although it fixes seeking in files over 2GB, it breaks hardware acceleration so videos now play back in slow motions.
Very disappointed.
EDIT: Attached the old version as well as the old plugin for those who upgraded and didn't have a backup of it!! Old version works nicely minus the >2GB seek bug.

Will give it a try thanks.
Luckily I bought the Dice player before the market went down. One thing that is not mentioned a lot about it though.
I work in Africa every other month, no wi-fi. So after two weeks Dice player stops working as it cannot call home. This annoys me.