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Okay. As you can see by my post count I'm a newb to ALL of this, so please be patient.
I just recently, within the last week maybe, got a HTC Hero. I immediately updated to 2.1. (No custom rom or anything, my device is not even rooted.)
I honestly do not want a custom rom. To me they almost all look ugly and I have a feeling they're not as stable. Either way, I don't want one.
I do, however, want to overclock my phone. Is there a way to do this without getting a custom rom that removes/adds stuff?
Thank you.
To overclock, you have to root.
I think Jus10o has posted a flashable kernel that allows overclocking on any Sprint-based 2.1 ROM, including stock, but I am not sure. I imagine he'll chime in if he has.
Just out of curiosity, what is that you don't like about custom ROMs? Fresh ROM (not FreshToast) is basically the official ROM made more stable. A lot of people have a lot more problems with the official ROM than they do with custom ROMs, or so my experience has gone. Sprint and HTC fix problems once a year (it seems..) where as the devs here hop on problems with their ROMs instantly. Most get things fixed the same week they're noticed.
DevinXtreme said:
To overclock, you have to root.
I think Jus10o has posted a flashable kernel that allows overclocking on any Sprint-based 2.1 ROM, including stock, but I am not sure. I imagine he'll chime in if he has.
Just out of curiosity, what is that you don't like about custom ROMs? Fresh ROM (not FreshToast) is basically the official ROM made more stable. A lot of people have a lot more problems with the official ROM than they do with custom ROMs, or so my experience has gone. Sprint and HTC fix problems once a year (it seems..) where as the devs here hop on problems with their ROMs instantly. Most get things fixed the same week they're noticed.
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Okay. Thank you. I suppose my next step is to look at how to root my phone and finding that kernel..
As far as custom ROMs go, I don't see a need for one. The ONLY issue I have with my phone is the occasional lag, which I would hope to fix with an overclock. Not even sure that would help it, but I want to try it anyway.
Thanks for the help.
The title pretty much says it all.
Please give me some help
Thanks
DerKanacke said:
The title pretty much says it all.
Please give me some help
Thanks
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All gingerbread roms are highly alpha| beta, my advise is to stay away from them, and wait for the official release (couple of days/weeks)
ttf said:
All gingerbread roms are highly alpha| beta, my advise is to stay away from them, and wait for the official release (couple of days/weeks)
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I would agree...I am sure the current Gingerbread based ROMs are great, but they are based on leaked versions of beta ROMs. Unless you really know what you are doing or love the risks of the bleeding edge, I would stay away from them.
All signs are pointing to official Gingerbread firmware for the i9000 hitting Europe in the next two weeks. Once that is freely available, I figure the devs here will have fresh ROMS based on Samsung tested, properly released code out within hours/days...not so long to wait.
Check this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011901
I just flashed this rom few days back and it's working like......knife goes on butter...
benefits:
1. It's 2.3.3
2. very smooth UI
3. longer battery life & lots more
Gingerbread launcher is not there but I installed one from market (check the one from Eugene373)....all together it's cool & I did not face any issues yet!!!
Flashed my few days old Froyo 2.2 with the 2.3.3 rom. So far, everything work without any problem.
Since there is now stable releases of gingerbread, are there any custom roms for it? i cant find any :/
Are there any kernels for gingerbread also?
You can try ColdMod Rom... its beautiful with TW 4.0 which works nicely with good battery life... i have no complains abt it and im using 2.1 improvent of ColdMod
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dont know yet
I switched from Darky RC 5.3 to Juwes 4.2 cause Darky is little bit unstable for now. Juwe seems pretty fast and compatible.
I was using darky rom so far but now i want to try something new (darky is still on 2.3.3 which has the battery bug so i use 9.5).
So what 2.3.4 rom do you recommend? It doesnt have to be "blazing fast" , good battery life will suffice
Thank you.
How about Stock Gingerbread Roms?
Is there any rom stable and without bugs?
I use stock JVQ downloaded from samfirmwares with SpeedMod t23 and the auto brightness fix. All partitions converted to ext4 (/system too).
It is really responsive, no lags at all and I didnt find any bug (except the auto brightness but like I said there is a fix).
I also use tegrak to overclock it to 1.2 Ghz but thats optional, it is already really fast !!
confuse every rom has characteristic
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im doing the ext 4 right now.. im not quite sure what it does, but ive read a lot of good things in it..
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
There is no "best" rom. It's what's "best" for you. Read the forums and learn to flash 2.2 roms first.
I must warn you, flashing becomes very addictive.
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Yea i know i have a sidekick 4g and ive tried about every rom on it
thanks for the info though
Tyler0309 said:
Yea i know i have a sidekick 4g and ive tried about every rom on it
thanks for the info though
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I recommend trying MIUI, the customization is what puts it over the top!
Here are a few different versions of MIUI:
Galnet**What I prefer**
http://www.galnetmiui.co.uk/twooey/v3/Twooey-V3-i897.zip
Prototypes release
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066885
MIUI.us
http://roms.miui.us/1.8.12/MIUI.us_captivatemtd_1.8.12_Eng_Deo_ZipA_Signed.zip
Ok ill give it a try..do i have to update to a different version> im running 2.1 right now
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Ok ill give it a try..do i have to update to a different version> im running 2.1 right now
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I've not been on 2.1 since phone came out. I would use odin one click to goto 2.2 stock. Root it then install cwm and then follow this guide if your going to try Galnet's MIUI.
http://www.galnetmiui.co.uk/content/forum/guides/(guide)-i897-galaxy-s-captivate-gb-bootloaders/
Then just pop the MIUI.zip on root of sdcard and install from CWM.
Tyler0309 said:
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
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Wow... so... You should probably READ a lot more before flashing anything, but I'll give you a few hints to get you going:
1) Make sure you understand what a "PBL", "SBL", "Kernel", and "Modem" are and how they are placed/installed in your phone.
2) Learn how to correctly and safely use ODIN (and/or Heimdall).
3) Learn about the various methods of recovery for "soft bricks", and if necessary for your hardware revision, possibly invest in a jig (also learn what a jig is)
4) There are 2 different types/branches of ROMs for the Captivate:
-- Samsung Branch
-- AOSP Branch
Within the "Samsung" types you have:
- i9000 ROMs (like JVP, JVR, JP8, etc)
- i897 ROMs (like JF6, KF1, etc)
Within the "AOSP" types you have:
- CM7
- MIUI
- Other AOSP-based ROMs
Which is "better" is relative. CM7 and MIUI have features that aren't present in the Samsung ROMs, and both offer a bit more customization than the Samsung ROMs. However, only the Samsung ROMs offer GPU accelerated video playback, and they tend to have significantly better battery life than the AOSP-type ROMs. Also the Samsung-type ROMs used to be much more stable than the AOSP branches, but recently, the tide may have turned in the other direction. Some of the low-level radio settings are also unavailable in any of the AOSP builds. And finally, some of the Samsung stock camera features are unavailable in CM7/MIUI.
It really all depends what you want... Do you want closer to stock "open source" Android? Or do you want Samsung's vision of what they think Android should be?
Also, the whole kernel/modem part is dependent on what branch of ROM you plan on running. When using a i9000-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i9000 kernel and modem. When using a i897-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i897 kernel and modem. The rules for CM7/MIUI are a bit more vague, but at the very least you'll need to use a CM7/MIUI (most AOSP-type kernels are interchangeable) compatible kernel.
The best advice is really to try them all out and see what you like the most. If you're currently on stock 2.1 (which it sounds like you are), at the very least you should upgrade to some variant of Gingerbread (2.3.4 preferably). You will definitely notice a big difference in terms of speed and functionality. From there, well, it's all really up to you...
OR alternatively, just start throwing stuff on your phone and see what happens. Just PLEASE don't come crying back in the Captivate General forum with a "OMG I bricked my phone!!! Plz help!!!" thread. Fair warning...
Just a suggestion, but become familiar with Odin one click. Make sure your captivate has 3 button recovery, and read, re- read, and read again the directions of every rom before you flash it. Always make a nandroid back up if possible, and read the threads.if you have questions, so did someone else and the answer is probably already out there .use search. Some People will rip your head off if you don't. as far as miui goes .....i was a flashaholic when I got phone. After switching to miui, It is very unlikely that I will ever leave. Best rom ever imho. And it updates every Friday so that satisfied the flashing urge. Usually it gets better with each release. The last couple have been a little rough though. Might want to spend the 8 bucks and have a download jig on standby. Can get it from mobiltech videos. Its worth it though
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Shammyh said:
Wow... so... You should probably READ a lot more before flashing anything, but I'll give you a few hints to get you going:
1) Make sure you understand what a "PBL", "SBL", "Kernel", and "Modem" are and how the are placed/installed in your phone.
2) Learn how to correctly and safely use ODIN (and/or Heimdall).
3) Learn about the various methods of recovery for "soft bricks", and if necessary for your hardware revision, possibly invest in a jig (also learn what a jig is)
4) There are 2 different types/branches of ROMs for the Captivate:
-- Samsung Branch
-- AOSP Branch
Within the "Samsung" types you have:
- i9000 ROMs (like JVP, JVR, JP8, etc)
- i897 ROMs (like JF6, KF1, etc)
Within the "AOSP" types you have:
- CM7
- MIUI
- Other AOSP-based ROMs
Which is "better" is relative. CM7 and MIUI have features that aren't present in the Samsung ROMs, and both offer a bit more customization than the Samsung ROMs. However, only the Samsung ROMs offer GPU accelerated video playback, and they tend to have significantly better battery life than the AOSP-type ROMs. Also the Samsung-type ROMs used to be much more stable than the AOSP branches, but recently, the tide may have turned in the other direction. Some of the low-level radio settings are also unavailable in any of the AOSP builds. And finally, some of the Samsung stock camera features are unavailable in CM7/MIUI.
It really all depends what you want... Do you want closer to stock "open source" Android? Or do you want Samsung's vision of what they think Android should be?
Also, the whole kernel/modem part is dependent on what branch of ROM you plan on running. When using a i9000-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i9000 kernel and modem. When using a i897-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i897 kernel and modem. The rules for CM7/MIUI are a bit more vague, but at the very least you'll need to use a CM7/MIUI (most AOSP-type kernels are interchangeable) compatible kernel.
The best advice is really to try them all out and see what you like the most. If you're currently on stock 2.1 (which it sounds like you are), at the very least you should upgrade to some variant of Gingerbread (2.3.4 preferably). You will definitely notice a big difference in terms of speed and functionality. From there, well, it's all really up to you...
OR alternatively, just start throwing stuff on your phone and see what happens. Just PLEASE don't come crying back in the Captivate General forum with a "OMG I bricked my phone!!! Plz help!!!" thread. Fair warning...
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Well said.
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Tyler0309 said:
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
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a very simple and easy way to start with...
2.1 is eclair..
2.2 froyo
2.3 gingerbread..
means 2.1 is oldest and 2.3 is latest in case of official roms..
so obviously new version will hav more features and faster in speed...
so now u can take baby step and install 2.2 ..and use it for few days..and get the feel of it..then again after sometime u can install 2.3...
or else u can directly jump to 2.3....which is gingerbread....u can install stock kf1 on ur phone..its leaked official gb...if u search a bit..u will get it..
then u can use it for a lil while and get the feel of gb stock rom..in the meanwhile u can read xda abt available custom roms..and then install any of them...
coz every memeber here in xda will suggest the custom rom they r using..coz they r lovin the rom then only they r using....like for me..since the time i started flashin..i always used APEX ROM..so i will say its the best....
but again thats just me..
so decision is always urs...
Right, ive had a i9000 for 5 months or so, and ever since i got it, ive found it to be slow, at times laggy. And hate alot of the crap samsung put on it.Which ive not even used.
I reckon its about time i start to make the most of my phone, but dont really know where to start, with these custom roms and rooting and what not.
I basically want it to run smoothly and possibly add a tweaks/features to it which could possibly improve it. However i remember reading somewhere, that ill lose the camera features if i install a custom rom. :l (i could be talking from my arse here)
Also i read that android 4.0 is coming or has come out. Would i be able to upgrade my phone to it ? and should i ?? If not what is the best rom to flash which will make my phone faster and smoother.
Is there anything at all to make it significantly faster, or is it limited by hardware :/
Im currently on:
kernal version 2.6.29
firmware 2.1 -update1
Which i havnt messed with since i got the phone.
Thanks, and sorry for the daft questions.
Oh dear! did you wrote 2.1? Please read basic root steps and install custom rom. I recommend you to start with Cf-root
go here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
As far as 4.0, please wait.
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Oh dear! did you wrote 2.1? Please read basic root steps and install custom rom. I recommend you to start with Cf-root
go here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
As far as 4.0, please wait.
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Lol Is 2.1 bad ? hahaha
Sorry for sounding dim, but what have you pointed me to ?? rooting ? installing a rom ? updating kernal ?
And what is the difference between these ? are all 3 needed to get the phone working as i want it to ?
Im totally new to everything andriod so can you please be as clear as possible.
Thank you for your reply.
And sorry again for all the questions.
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Lol Is 2.1 bad ? hahaha
Sorry for sounding dim, but what have you pointed me to ?? rooting ? installing a rom ? updating kernal ?
And what is the difference between these ? are all 3 needed to get the phone working as i want it to ?
Im totally new to everything andriod so can you please be as clear as possible.
Thank you for your reply.
And sorry again for all the questions.
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OK, here we go...
1. First of all you need to root your device to install a custom rom or kernel. So first root your device with the above thread (cf-root).
2. Choose any rom from so many roms available all over xda. Choose only from the topic which is under your device's category, not from other device's rom,lol.
To do this you need Odin(use search)
3. Once done you will have custom rom and also custom kernel if you wish.
After these you can go for lagfix, like changing from rfs to ext4.
Best of luck.
Thanks, so after ive rooted with cf-root. do i have to install a custom rom and custom kernel, both ?
And which is considered the best rom and kernel ?
thanks
regards
Hey Skweezer,
Recommend you start with these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939752
and:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
They will tell you about how to connect your phone to your PC (Samsung USB drivers + adb), 3 button mode (how to avoid bricking your phone), backing up important/unrecoverable data (like your EFS block!), and what (in general) needs to be done to flash custom firmware.
After that, you should be able to pretty much recover from any error (like unplugging your phone mid flash). Now you can go ahead and root your phone and start exploring the wonderful word of custom roms! As for which one is the best, that's like asking "how long is a piece of string?" Some people prefer speed and cutting edge, others value battery life and stability, some aim for the middle of the road.
Personally I've tried tegrak kernel and was really impressed with the speed improvement! However, the limited app space finally turned me back to other kernels. I found the rest to be pretty much six in one, half dozen in the other (ie all about the same)... so pick one you like and just go for it... use it for a while and if it's not to your liking, flash again
Just a quick rundown on android for you... firmware 2.1 = Eclair, 2.2 = Frozen Yoghurt, 2.3 = Gingerbread, 3.0 = Honeycomb (tablet only version of android) and 4.0 = Ice Cream Sandwich (unify android for phone/tablet/tv again). There is a HUGE performance increase from going stock 2.1 to 2.3! so even if you just upgrade to Samsung's Gingerbread release (2.3.3 I believe?) you will notice better performance. Doing lagfix, kernel tweaks, etc is just icing on top of the cake. However, you'll find once you start tweaking, you won't go back to stock
Well, easiest way of starting is installing KIES and letting it update your phone. That's the official way and you won't have to bother with details like kernels, roms, bootloaders, etc and won't void your warranty (if that's the case).
You'll probably be left with with some 2.3.x version. Might as well make a backup from your stuff before upgrading, kies sucks in a general way, but may help you with that.
From that point on, if you still want to press further into customization goodness, there are PLENTY to chose from.
There are mainly 2 kinds of roms:
- Samsung based (someone picks up a sock samsung rom and modifies it with scripts, kernels, themes, apps, etc). These are most of the ones you'll find in the development section of this forum.
- not samsung based (like Cyanogen e MIUI). These are built from Google's sources directly and totally skip samsung. Therefore, samsung apps most likely won't work here. Everything else does.
Personally i'd recommend Cyanogen 7.1 stable as your next rom. It's an extremely optimized and wildly popular rom, with plenty of options that you won't find in any stock rom. They have their own forum i recommend you to look up if you're going their way.
Whatever you do, GET AWAY FROM THAT 2.1
Cheers for alll the replies guys. Im first going to just update via kies. To an official 2.3
If im not happy with that then ill try a custom rom and rooting.
If only it was as simple as jailbreaking and iphone. lool
Right, ust updated to latest version via kies. And instantly alot better, smoother. Has some of those things bulit into the system which i always though were missing.
Ill try it for a week, and see if theres anything i need, or think is missing. Then i might go custom. But right now im happy with it on the latest official version.
Thank you guys, i think you've made me sort of like android a bit more.
Hey XDA
My friend is just a casual person who dont know anything about smartphones/especially not roms/kernels.
He've an o2x and have several problems with it.
The stock rom is slow(havent tried 2.3 though, since it isnt possible to root then) and his currently ROM, CM7, isnt too stable - he keep loosing internet connection, the flash app crashes, and several FCs(and yeah, I've tried reinstalling and fix permissions and stuff like that)
So atm I am looking for a good and completely stable ROM for his o2x, since he is tired of all the problems.
What can you suggest? - Is the new 2.3 worth it, or is there a better rom? - I have to mention, his CM7 rom is 1 month old, so it isnt up-to-date.
I am personally using SGSII so I dont know anything at all about O2X, so I have to ask you guys.
Thanks in advance!
Well, I think that if you wanna go custom, you must be in the touch with updates.
There is pretty good custom rom`s and kernel out there, but if you just want to install and forget (no backuping, flashing, restoring...), I would go with stock rom, 2.3. is ok.
Everyone have their favorite, mine is: stock 20L, rooted, with custom Spica`s HP Kernel and Performance Pack and there is no problems with phone and Spica gives boost to stock rom.
There is some interesting poll too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350761
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Well, I think that if you wanna go custom, you must be in the touch with updates.
There is pretty good custom rom`s and kernel out there, but if you just want to install and forget (no backuping, flashing, restoring...), I would go with stock rom, 2.3. is ok.
Everyone have their favorite, mine is: stock 20L, rooted, with custom Spica`s HP Kernel and Performance Pack and there is no problems with phone and Spica gives boost to stock rom.
There is some interesting poll too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350761
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As I said, I dont know much about o2x, since it is not my phone, but is there any problems with 2.3? Is it faster than 2.2 and have they fix'ed all the FC he got with 2.2?
The problem is that, if I unroot and update to 2.3 I can't get back, so therefore I want to be 100% sure.
I know I have to keep it updated, and I will do that, just not 100% updated all the time. But if the rom and kernel is stable, its no big deal.
Thank you for your answer, I will wait to decide after a few more replies
edit: thx for the link, I will check it out asap!
It looks like CM7 is the right choice though...Maybe I should just update it and see if it fix his problems?
CM7 is the only one what I have not tried from the list, lol.
What do you think that you can`t go back? You can do with your phone everything you want . You can go to 2.3 then flash back to 2.2. Rooting is not a problem, there is very good guide how to do that, if you have a backup to flash. And there are all versions of stock roms to download.
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CM7 is the only one what I have not tried from the list, lol.
What do you think that you can`t go back? You can do with your phone everything you want . You can go to 2.3 then flash back to 2.2. Rooting is not a problem, there is very good guide how to do that, if you have a backup to flash. And there are all versions of stock roms to download.
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Well I've seen several people talking about that you can't root the 2.3 firmware.
Yeah you can downgrade ofc, forgot that. I downgraded a Desire Z, which was srsly tough. I guess it is hard to do with o2x too? (maybe a link to guide )
How to root 2.3 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327599
All info about rom, kernels and etc. can be found in development section, all what you need to do is some searching and reading.
Memhis said:
How to root 2.3 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327599
All info about rom, kernels and etc. can be found in development section, all what you need to do is some searching and reading.
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Thank you.
Other suggestions to stable roms/kernels?
I think the best way is that you try some roms by yourself. When you have done this one time its very easy and next time you can do it much faster. I'm testing GR5 at the moment. Its realesed today for everybody.
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And if you are not satisfied with performance you can flash a new kernel like spica's.
Rallerbabz said:
Thank you.
Other suggestions to stable roms/kernels?
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i installed miui yesterday it seems pretty good n way faster than the stock froyo
couldnt test the stock 2.3 as it wasnt available yet when i last checked for updates
I have tested probably every rom on this forum and in my opinion CM 7.1 stable is the best choice. Since yesterday i'm testing miui 1.11.18 and it seems to be very good as well. No freezes and bsods so far. But miui is based on CM so it has to be good With the SwiftExtreme kernel it's really fast. Battery is also good on both of them - much better then stock 2.3.
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