Hi to everyone. I forgat to turn my wifi off during my working hours. In the nd of my shift, i check my battery and it was proximately %5 left and even i didnt use the phone during my shift. it was %50 or something before starting. Does wifi still work even on the sleeping mode?
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no it stays on unless you set up the power saving mode i use custom settings so that wifi etc will turn off at 40% battery
wi-fi is a big battery drainer. Always have it off if you don't need it. Same with gps, data, and auto-sync for various accounts
Try using juice defender. I think the free version always you to enable wifi control (after your phone goes into sleep mode it should turn off the wifi until you wake it up)
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juice defender is in itself a battery drainer. don't use those "battery saver" apps. they're all bs. just get in a habit of turning off connections manually when you don't need them.
Are you aware of the setting: wifi settings/advanced/wifi sleep policy and set it to sleep when screen turns off?
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Are you aware of the setting: wifi settings/advanced/wifi sleep policy and set it to sleep when screen turns off?
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Thanks I didn't know about that setting, but my question is once wifi turns off mobile data kicks in. Which drains battery more? Wifi or mobile data?
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They both drain battery equally as much. Mobile data shouldn't kick in unless you have it toggled on.
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Use Green Power to automatically disable wifi and data when the phone goes into stand by. There are lots of settings like enabling wifi at certain intervals to sync email/whatsapp/other push services.
On GB for me it's the difference between losing 25% battery overnight without it and losing only 3% when it's enabled and that's with sync every hour.
It seems that on any ICS rom wifi doesn't use any juice even when enabled in standby. Because of the kernel bug in the leaks I'm now on the official CM9 rom and after almost 9 hours with wifi turned on I only lost 4%, on every other ICS rom I tried I get the same results.
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Thanks I didn't know about that setting, but my question is once wifi turns off mobile data kicks in. Which drains battery more? Wifi or mobile data?
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install battery saver or juice defender , i recommend the second one
firasusman said:
install battery saver or juice defender , i recommend the second one
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I tried juice defender ultimate but connection was on and off and time to time it took ridiculous amount of time to get the connection back :/ also I don't know why with juice defender I noticed sluggish performance phone, after uninstalling everything was much more snappy.
I have wifi on all the time and I only lose about 2-3% over night on stock, I guess it's fine the way it is for me without using all those battery "saver" apps.
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dr. xp55 said:
juice defender is in itself a battery drainer. don't use those "battery saver" apps. they're all bs. just get in a habit of turning off connections manually when you don't need them.
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I disagree. I definitely get power savings with JD compared to without it. Auto-disabling WiFi saved loads of power for a start, and my overnight drain has gone from 3-5%, to approx 1% with JD running. I'm not saying all batt saver apps are worth using, but JD works for me.
Its a lot easier to have a well-behaved app that DOESN'T use a lot of power itself manage your connection toggling rather than having to remember to do it yourself.
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They both drain battery equally as much. Mobile data shouldn't kick in unless you have it toggled on.
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Wrong. WiFi uses more power. Its a separate transmitter being driven by the battery, whereas as mobile data will use the existing transmitter (phone) that's already on, but obviously drive it a little harder than if it was all off.
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My phone was 100% battery 4 hours ago - now it's 45%
I haven't even hardly used it this morning.
This is ridiculous. Any ideas ?
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Funkadelick said:
My phone was 100% battery 4 hours ago - now it's 45%
I haven't even hardly used it this morning.
This is ridiculous. Any ideas ?
Froyo 2.2 (bell i9000m)
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Maybe sounds silly, but do You have 3G / HSDPA full timeturned on and/or any data eating app(s) running in the background? Usually these drains my I9000 really fast. If I take care to turn stimes 3G off (only 2G allowed) and shutting down the app(s) which run in background make my phone usable for a day.
it's 100% normal to suck so much battery life if you are constantly using 3G or WiFi or long phone calls
I know how to disable HDSPA, but how to disable 3g? :S tnahks
You are using it or something in the background is using it.
Full-on use (gaming) burns about 20% per hour in my experience. Browsing might be a little less but not much because instead of using CPU/GPU power it uses data.
The screen is the major burn, how long does battery usage say the screen has been on?
My battery drain is always pretty much exactly 20%/hour screen time + 1%/hour on time. It will deviate from this if I've played alot of music (especially streaming) since it uses power but not the screen, this drain rate will depend on the player and type of music (built-in player playing from SD card is lean, Tune-in radio streaming over 3G is a hog that heats the phone up, Slacker is in between).
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Maybe sounds silly, but do You have 3G / HSDPA full timeturned on and/or any data eating app(s) running in the background? Usually these drains my I9000 really fast. If I take care to turn stimes 3G off (only 2G allowed) and shutting down the app(s) which run in background make my phone usable for a day.
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I'm sorta new - how do you turn 3G off and turn 2G on ?
I don't have hardly anything running in the background (not that I know of)
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I know how to disable HDSPA, but how to disable 3g? :S tnahks
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I don't know how to disable anything lol
can I still txt with this off ?
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it's 100% normal to suck so much battery life if you are constantly using 3G or WiFi or long phone calls
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didn't use wifi - didn't make 1 phone call today at all
Could be a few reasons for that. If you've recently flashed a new firmware your battery stats may be messed up. Just run down your battery down a few times and it should sort itself out.
Maybe you turned your phone on while it was plugged in. This usually stuffs up the battery stats and can show as much as 30% extra battery when turned on that way. Always remove the charger before booting.
Also, to turn off 3g/hsdpa/data go to settings/wireless & network/network mode and select gsm only (2g). You can also download the widget '2g 3g' which will take you straight there. Also, you can uncheck 'use packet data'. This will kill all data which saves battery. I turn it back on with the widget whenever I need data again. The power button menu also has that option. I'm on 2.2.1 so it may differ if you are on 2.1.
Pretty sure you can still text with data off but may want to test it. If message fails then no. However mms send/receive won't work I think.
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Browsing might be a little less but not much because instead of using CPU/GPU power it uses data.
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i can do 5 to 6 hours straight of 3G browsing with screen on auto before it runs dry
3G + Screen = high power eaters
if i play 3D MMO (pocket craft) then it even less time
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Could be a few reasons for that. If you've recently flashed a new firmware your battery stats may be messed up. Just run down your battery down a few times and it should sort itself out.
Maybe you turned your phone on while it was plugged in. This usually stuffs up the battery stats and can show as much as 30% extra battery when turned on that way. Always remove the charger before booting.
Also, to turn off 3g/hsdpa/data go to settings/wireless & network/network mode and select gsm only (2g). You can also download the widget '2g 3g' which will take you straight there. Also, you can uncheck 'use packet data'. This will kill all data which saves battery. I turn it back on with the widget whenever I need data again. The power button menu also has that option. I'm on 2.2.1 so it may differ if you are on 2.1.
Pretty sure you can still text with data off but may want to test it. If message fails then no. However mms send/receive won't work I think.
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I just recently upgraded to 2.2 froyo
i heard there's a battery stats trick, anyone know it ?
there's no battery stats trick . its just a logfile that's stored. nothing else. the trick you're probably talking about is calibration of the battery.
drain fully, charge to full while powered off. one or two charges like this should sort it.
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Hey I have a bell i9000 and I have to say that I'm extremely happy with my battery life, I've been unplugged since 9 am, its 7:30 now and my battery indicator is reading 37% with above average use (some phone calls, gaming, browsing...) I would advise you to do these things:
1) install darky's rom (9.2)
2) flash speedmod kernel 13b (very good on the battery)
3) use setcpu and set with these values, max:800mhz, min:100mhz (conservative), and add a profile for screen off with min/max @ 100 mhz and 100 priority level (don't worry, your phone will still feel snappy even @ 800mhz)
4) use a black wallpaper, since black is rendered by turning off pixels on an amoled display.
You should see some improvements, hope it helps!
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Just wondering regarding data connections.
What setting is likely to give the best overall battery life. WiFi set to never sleep or WiFi set to sleep when screen is off
I'm not sure what would use more power. WiFi or 3G
waynefox said:
Just wondering regarding data connections.
What setting is likely to give the best overall battery life. WiFi set to never sleep or WiFi set to sleep when screen is off
I'm not sure what would use more power. WiFi or 3G
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Calibrating battery(free in market) is the best for you battery, full charge til mv=4182(or higher if you get it), then use the phone til it`s completely empty and shots it self off. Then your up to go. You can use Hp power packs as well with hp kernel.
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I've gone back to using HP SR2 and battery life is great. But wifi and Bluetooth doesn't work properly with this kernel
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I am using hp sr2 and its working good wifi and blth. I am on stock v20l. And for me network data drains battrery faster than wifi
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I have a problem with cell standby killing my battery. Its the single highest.used thing that is draining my battery (its over 30% and only other thing in that ballpark is the display) . The only mods I have added to stock is droidjunks power toggles. It seems like every time I change something on the bar up top with this phone, my cell standby becomes a serious battery killer.
Is there any reason for or solution to this problem? Any help would be appreciated.
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are you between 3g 4g wifi i know when i toggle between wifi 4/3g it uses a lot of consumption just scaning for newworks etc.. and you might have power saver enabled so as soon as you turn your "off" it disables data and then you turn it back on it enables it sometimes it more harm than good... sorry i can't help more..
Download juice defender from the market and play with that a little... Auto toggles data when you want it too (screen off, etc.) Makes my battery last at least 50% longer.
I'm not messing with juice defender. I don't like apps that shut off data as a power.saving method.
My problem isn't typical as I've seen other users screenshots showing what is draining their battery and it's never over 30%. I didn't have the issue until I messed with the notification bar. Just curious to exactly what caused the issue and if anything can be done about it. I don't keep wifi, Bluetooth, or GPS on unless I am currently using it.
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Sorry but juice defender doesn't work for me. I use too much data and too frequently to have it being shut off on me. I have professional email accounts that sync every 15 minutes. That's not the cause of the issue as I've been doing that far longer than I've had the issue.
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Are you on .902?
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Are you on .902?
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Yes. I'm going to try turning off 4g and see if that helps. That could be the problem because I just got 4g at my house a month ago.
Im more curious to exactly what happens in cell standby that would cause battery drain?
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Cell standby is actually all of the power used by the cell radio, if I am reading this right.
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Cell standby is actually all of the power used by the cell radio, if I am reading this right.
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I believe so to. Im pretty sure its the 4g sucking my battery down. The first several months I had this phone, they didn't have 4g at my house yet.
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I'm not messing with juice defender. I don't like apps that shut off data as a power.saving method.
My problem isn't typical as I've seen other users screenshots showing what is draining their battery and it's never over 30%. I didn't have the issue until I messed with the notification bar. Just curious to exactly what caused the issue and if anything can be done about it. I don't keep wifi, Bluetooth, or GPS on unless I am currently using it.
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Just so you know Juice Defender has a setting which will turn your data on at an interval set by you and for a time set by you to sync even with screen off.
It's not like it just cuts the data because it feels like it. Juice defender works perfectly for me and has been one of the best apps I have purchased.
But to me it seems to most likely be that your 4g is on ALL the time.
With 1d 11h 6m 45s on battery, I get 9% for Cell standby, hell Facebook almost uses more battery than it (this is also a 3G only area).
i think radio is consuming the power.
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Just so you know Juice Defender has a setting which will turn your data on at an interval set by you and for a time set by you to sync even with screen off.
It's not like it just cuts the data because it feels like it. Juice defender works perfectly for me and has been one of the best apps I have purchased.
But to me it seems to most likely be that your 4g is on ALL the time.
With 1d 11h 6m 45s on battery, I get 9% for Cell standby, hell Facebook almost uses more battery than it (this is also a 3G only area).
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I do know that, but I can't control when my email comes and need to receive it as soon as possible. For this reason, I can't have data even being shut off in predefined intervals.
I've currently turned off 4g to see if things improve. Unless your streaming videos or downloading larger files, 4g doesn't seem necessary for the majority of things.
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Juice defender also has a whitelist feature so you can pick what apps will always have a data connection. So if your email account syncs every 15 mins then it will continue without interruption.
I've found that the cell standby happens when I'm in a fringe or low coverage area
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smokedkill said:
I have a problem with cell standby killing my battery. Its the single highest.used thing that is draining my battery (its over 30% and only other thing in that ballpark is the display) . The only mods I have added to stock is droidjunks power toggles. It seems like every time I change something on the bar up top with this phone, my cell standby becomes a serious battery killer.
Is there any reason for or solution to this problem? Any help would be appreciated.
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Lately I'm having the same problem. standby accounts for 41% of my battery drain. I'm draining at about 10% / hr with very light usage. Smoke let's stay in touch!
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Juice defender also has a whitelist feature so you can pick what apps will always have a data connection. So if your email account syncs every 15 mins then it will continue without interruption.
I've found that the cell standby happens when I'm in a fringe or low coverage area
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Your email is already being checked at a set interval (default 15min)... unless you have changed it.
Hey all I've had the jelly bean P.A 2.1 rom with hydro 3.5 for afew days' and I think my battery is draining Abit to much. I have no clue how to use betterbatterystats so can I have some pointers??? Ive fully charged my phone and its been running for around 20 mins and using only wifi to browse and it drained 10%. Is this normal....
I've snapped some shots but I don't have a clue what betterbatterystats means...
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Hi,
Ref my post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878692
Might help
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Hi,
Ref my post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878692
Might help
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Hey
Under personal their is location services? Is that what you mean. Their are 4 things that are ticked...pic below
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Is this what you mean?? If so which ones should be ticked off.
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Okay battery was at 15% it was telling me to charge it. So I thought ill post the final screen shot from betterbatt stats.
The top section was no data connection and it was at 100%
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judging on the screenshot you have dude, I'd say you have one massive wakelocks on your phone. It seemed that your data connection is always on. Wifi, 3G and etc.
My rule of law (I'm not sure if this will apply to you, but you can give it a try if you like), is... Use only data connection (Wifi/3G/BT) on a need to basis. What that means is, you can turn it off all your data connections and turn it ON ONLY when you need to. Your phone's always awake all the time. That explains the wakelocks your phone is getting, plus coupled the fact that there are some background apps syncing continuously. That's one of the causes on your drains.
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judging on the screenshot you have dude, I'd say you have one massive wakelocks on your phone. It seemed that your data connection is always on. Wifi, 3G and etc.
My rule of law (I'm not sure if this will apply to you, but you can give it a try if you like), is... Use only data connection (Wifi/3G/BT) on a need to basis. What that means is, you can turn it off all your data connections and turn it ON ONLY when you need to. Your phone's always awake all the time. That explains the wakelocks your phone is getting, plus coupled the fact that there are some background apps syncing continuously. That's one of the causes on your drains.
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Hey
I never have data on thoe. I've been home so wifi has been on. I only usw data if I'm at work on shift etc and I've not worked for over two months. I do have Google syncing and whatsapp always stays on even when I turn it off it comes on by itself. The rest are off.
Can't understand why it says data is on as I never use it much at all but wifi I use alot yes I admit but I don't leave it running. Anything I can do?
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well, Is Google syncing really that important to you? You have to bear in mind what is really needed and what is just wanting it.
If Google Sync is not that much important, then you can turn that off. With regards to Wifi, you can also change that to sleep mode (settings> wifi settings/advanced/wifi sleep policy)
Wifi is a big battery drainer in every aspects as well and like I've said before.. if you don't necessarily need to connect to the internet.. then turn your WIFI off and 3G mobile data OFF. Just enable it when you like to use it and turn it off after your done using it.
Go to this thread to get battery help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31352080
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well, Is Google syncing really that important to you? You have to bear in mind what is really needed and what is just wanting it.
If Google Sync is not that much important, then you can turn that off. With regards to Wifi, you can also change that to sleep mode (settings> wifi settings/advanced/wifi sleep policy)
Wifi is a big battery drainer in every aspects as well and like I've said before.. if you don't necessarily need to connect to the internet.. then turn your WIFI off and 3G mobile data OFF. Just enable it when you like to use it and turn it off after your done using it.
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Thanks for the tips but yeh I do not leave data or wifi on. Mainly use wifi so I'm sure that's part of it. I could leave Google sync off and maybe just refresh it every week or so instead of leaving it running. Just thought it was easier incase I add contacts etc. I will just turn it off. My whatapp stays on even when I turn syncing off. I don't think the app works without keeping it synced.
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keep the Whatapp sync (If that's the app you really need all the time) sync and the rest off-sync.
Reset your phone and observe it again.
Hey everyone.
The battery life on my Ace without using data is brilliant. Even using wifi and playing games etc it can last around 2 days.
When data is turned on I can see the battery % counting down when I use Facebook or use the web browser.
This has happened on a number of ROMs I've tried, even stock based ROMs. I tend to use either on demand or smartass cpu settings.
I'm currently using Democracy 3.2 and it's having the same problems.
Has anyone else experienced this or found a way to fix it?
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Some apps that have internet permissions connect every now and then. With data on, battery will drain:
-when transferring data
-when switching edge, 3g and h
-when establishing data connection if it is ever lost.
If you got lots of apps transferring data, it can be solved by installing a firewall on a rooted phone (like droidwall).
The other thing is bad network coverage, which cannot be solved (switching too often or reestablishing data connection frecuently).
Edit: either way, data is a major battery hog when actively browsing (facebook, talpatalk, browser)
If using wifi isn't an option, some users report better battery life using 2g only
I don't think 2G would be an option for me... I've tried it before and the load speeds are far too slow for a lot of my apps to be usable.
I have noticed that the battery drains a lot when trying to establish H/2G/3G connection. I usually just turn data on only when I need it. Do you think it would be better for the battery to leave data on all day so it doesn't have to reconnect when I ask it to 10 times a day?
It seems to be the Facebook app that drains it most. Email / XDA / Dolphin doesn't impact battery quite as much.
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Constantly switching data on/off drains more battery than leaving it on all day cuz it will only use battery when transferring data, and if you're on wifi, wifi has preference.
The switching and establishing of data connection drains more battery than the screen at max brightness.
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The switching and establishing of data connection drains more battery than the screen at max brightness.
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Wow... That sucks... Is that just for Ace's? My girlfriends HTC Sensation doesn't seem to be affected by switching data on/off a few dozen times a day.
I'll give it a try today. Data is on all day and I'll see if I can squeeze a bit more juice out of it. I've also installed droidwall so that everything gets wifi access but only the stuff I use gets data access.
Thanks for your suggestions, I'll let you know how it goes :victory:
I've given it a try.
Previously I'd turn data on/off when I needed it and it would use 5-10% battery establishing connection and transferring data.
With data on all day I lost 5% in the morning establishing connection but after the transferring data throughout the day impacted the battery far less. I think it really helped that I had droidwall so there wasn't anything downloading in the background that I didn't want to. I got home at night and still had around 70% battery left.
Thanks for your help and advice guys :victory:
I'm shocked, without 3G I still only manage 1 day not 2days count yourself lucky!
I have same problem
Wifi uses less battery then data
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I'm shocked, without 3G I still only manage 1 day not 2days count yourself lucky!
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Turning data on/off a few times again I'd get about a day if I was lucky.
My phone has been on for a little over 24 hours with data on and it's on 80% right now... I've only really used 3G a couple of times but I'm not a particularly heavy user. It spends a lot of it's time locked and a asleep.