What is the best and most used feature/app in your Note? - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I would like to know everyone's opinion on what feature or app do you find most useful in your galaxy note. This device is still new to me but I'm beginning to love the functionality of the s pen.

i didnt think id ever use it, but the screenshot/annotate feature of the note is very good

For me, it's the calendar app and stylus for memo. Always using these for social stuff and work

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whmcal said:
For me, it's the calendar app and stylus for memo. Always using these for social stuff and work
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s pen ..its the note feature ..

gps is great

I use it mostly as an ereader (Kindle and Nook).

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[Q] Do you realy use your S-Pen?

I have my Galaxy Note now for a couple of months, and I realy like it. Never want to go back to a smaller phone again.
But using it for while now I only pull out the S-Pen when showing of my phone, telling everyone that it's a great feature to have.
So, maybe you guys want to share how you use your S-Pen in daily use?
I mostly use it at home, i guess about 70% of the time. Why don't you use it?
on the go i hardly use it...
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I mostly use it at home, i guess about 70% of the time. Why don't you use it?
on the go i hardly use it...
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And what do you do when you are using it at home?
Actually everything. Browsing, texting... I like the feel of it in my hand and when its sliding over the screen. long time ago i owned a PDA and now i noticed that i missed a stylus.
Maybe you just give it a try and get used to it - if u want to.
I used it couple of times.. When I actually wanted to write something on a paper but did not find it. Then I realized s-pen importance.
It can be very useful while travelling (when you have no piece of paper and want to write/remember something).
Sketching with Sketchbook Mobile
Games like World of Goo
At lunch times or at meetings when there is no paper or pen available to illustrate an idea or to help explain something
As way to talk/pass messages to friends in concerts or nightclubs. It's simpler than physical keyboard and quicker than onscreen one. Especially when a bit tipsy
So yeah, I use it few times a day and its really handy
I hate finger prints on my screen so i use it all the time other than when gaming.
I find it keeps the screen clean when im cooking if im using it for recipes, i also had a PDA back in the day an missed using a stylis.
I can't belive how well it fits in the phone body even though the s-pen so big, the only thing i dont like about it is the name. lol
I do not sketch, but I use it for drawing technical diagrams instead of doing the same on paper. I also use a flowchart type drawing app, and the pen is much better with that. That is for work.
I rarely write text, mainly because my writing is so awful even I cannot easily read it (I should have been a doctor). I do sometimes make quick notes with it rather than typing, and it is good for adding a note to the calendar instead of dicking with the entry for an event. I find that much quicker, like "drinks 4pm" instead of a couple of dozen clicks.
At home, I often fiddle with my launcher screen (ssLauncher - you can really fine-tune where everything is to 5 pixels), and the pen makes that much easier. I then typically just keep using the pen anyway, because it seems to glide over the glass more easily than my finder. I have very oily skin, and the peen keeps those prints off the screen.
I use it very often for shopping lists, and for other situations where I'd use a pen and paper. Last week for example I was out with one of my gfs friends, and she asked me. To remind my gf to give her a call about something. Perfect for the spen.
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hardly ever used it, only for doodling, i dont see the need for the pen for my uses of the phone
The only thing I use the S-Pen for is annotating pictures and screen-shots. I think my handwriting is incompatible with this device
jorundtm said:
The only thing I use the S-Pen for is annotating pictures and screen-shots. I think my handwriting is incompatible with this device
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I couldnt agree more we are on same page
I use the pen all the time. I much prefer it to using fingers unless I'm on the move or writing messages. Then I use dual thumbs.
I actually feel like I get more precision with the s-pen, and I like not getting finger prints all over the screen.
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I couldnt agree more we are on same page
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Indeed you are. Page 2 of this thread
jorundtm said:
The only thing I use the S-Pen for is annotating pictures and screen-shots. I think my handwriting is incompatible with this device
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same here...
I don't use the S Pen much as it is too thin for my large hands however I use my Wacom pen regularly with it to take hand written notes as it is like using a real pen. Cannot work without it now.
As a side note for those of you with messy handwriting, try an app in the market called 7Notes, you will seriously be surprised with its accuracy in recognising your handwriting and converting it to digital text. Once you use it, you will find there's no going back!!! Currently its only in Beta, cannot wait for the full version.
HasC said:
I don't use the S Pen much as it is too thin for my large hands however I use my Wacom pen regularly with it to take hand written notes as it is like using a real pen. Cannot work without it now.
As a side note for those of you with messy handwriting, try an app in the market called 7Notes, you will seriously be surprised with its accuracy in recognising your handwriting and converting it to digital text. Once you use it, you will find there's no going back!!! Currently its only in Beta, cannot wait for the full version.
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Wow, this Is amazing. I've never used a handwriting tool that's actually worked before. my handwriting Is awful, and this works perfectly. I used it to write this post!
Edit: I've been playing with it for 5 minutes and I've gone back to swiftkey x. It works great, it's just that even the best handwriting recognition is still a bit awkward. Especially when it comes to editing your posts.
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i love being able to annotate screenshots, and do so several times per day. this is the main feature that tipped the scales for me away from getting a Nexus.
otherwise, my handwriting is recognized quite well by the software, but i hardly ever bother with that
I don't use it much for writing, I find typing is far quicker and easier. My had writing isn't that bad on paper, but it looks like a child's scribblings on the Note.
I do use it for drawing though, which I'm getting quite good at. And often just for normal usage instead of my finger... no real reason for that, I just sometimes notice myself doing it.
I use it mainly for taking screenshots and to give my fingers a break. Installed this app called Freenote today which seems to be better than S Memo feature-wise. Will be using S Pen more with it from now on.
Also the pen is mightier than the finger when playing games like Fruit ninja.
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Indeed you are. Page 2 of this thread
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LOL
jellevanb said:
I have my Galaxy Note now for a couple of months, and I realy like it. Never want to go back to a smaller phone again.
But using it for while now I only pull out the S-Pen when showing of my phone, telling everyone that it's a great feature to have.
So, maybe you guys want to share how you use your S-Pen in daily use?
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S-Pen its a great feature,yes
Well am using Ultimate_N7000_V5.1 Jellybean rom and i have all the airview festures like galaxy note!
Btw. try the app from Play Store "Jotter for galaxy note" u have to pay for it but u can just crack it

Why bother with having both S Note and S Memo?

ICS Note has both the old S Memo and the new S Note.
I have tried both. The S Note is very similar to S Memo, but has some extra new features of the Premium Suite.
I would say use S Note is good enough, but I am lost to see the reason for Samsung to include both apps. May be I missed something.
Can someone with good experience shed some light here?
Differences compiled from replies:
1. S Memo has a S Memo Lite (double tap with pen button pressed to quickly bring up app),
2. S Memo has widgets.
Unfortunately SNote does not have the double screen tap while pressing the SPen button to pop up a S Note Lite version ontop of any application running (pretty convenient for me actually). So in order to conserve that function they had to leave it installed.
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OK. that counts one. Anything else?
S-memo has a widget for home screen, the other app doesn't have it.
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Any others?
If these are the only two features, I would say Samsung shall really merge the 2 apps into one. It should be an easy task for them.
roamingphiul said:
Any others?
If these are the only two features, I would say Samsung shall really merge the 2 apps into one. It should be an easy task for them.
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I totally agree... in fact, yesterday morning I searched the forums and couldn't find any threads relating to this so created my own:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681747
They say great minds think alike!
My biggest frustration is the functionality with Evernote. S-Note syncs, but uploads as an attached file.
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I totally agree... in fact, yesterday morning I searched the forums and couldn't find any threads relating to this so created my own:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681747
They say great minds think alike!
My biggest frustration is the functionality with Evernote. S-Note syncs, but uploads as an attached file.
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I have read the other thread of yours. Your shared experience and others replies enhance my thought: Samsung did not think twice before launching S Note, may be it was in a rush to get out the Premium Suite.
My frustration is similar to yours: I do not want to use all three apps (and spend time on riding through the learning curves), but just one primary note taking tool. If I have to use all three apps with complimentary features, they should be easily synced and shared.
The app is preferred to be/have:
Nice features of S Note and the S Memo Lite (the quick double tapping feature),
Manageable. With all the different file name extensions and folder locations, I have problems in finding where the S Note, S Memo, and S Memo Lite files are.
Portable. Will S Note and S Memo still be around in a year time after the current hot Galaxy Note phone is superseded? May be Evernote is a better choice in this regard.
Also once I saw a record button over top of the app... Donno in which app but it's not there!!! That's for recording the onscreen activities right?
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Also once I saw a record button over top of the app... Donno in which app but it's not there!!! That's for recording the onscreen activities right?
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Screen capture directly into SMemo with S pen?
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priyanv said:
Also once I saw a record button over top of the app... Donno in which app but it's not there!!! That's for recording the onscreen activities right?
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When opening the s note application choose idea note out of the 6 templates. Thats where the recording feature is found. And yes it does record everything done on screen.
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open S note notebooks in my desktop
Hi,
is there anyway to open the .snb notebooks in my desktop and edit them ... i love the app and use it as my daily diary ... but cant continue if i cant edit them and save them on desktop ...
please help
I have not found one.
S-features are nice, but not really suitable for notes that are to be kept and used in future.
I am going to use something like Evernote.
I am too a bit underwhelmed and puzzled by those two apps, the fragmentation and lack of critical features (like seamless sync to online with full editing support, not only picture edit) makes all this pen thingy little more than gimmick.
I installed mostly everything that was mentioned on xda (like quill, skitch, floatnote, etc) but still nothing clicks for me.
It looks like the companies develop such software just to have something nice to put on your home screen or to make some enticing marketing videos. It's a pity, especially that some features are very nice and surely there was some serious work put into them (like handwriting/ecuations recognition).
In the end even if I would really like to use more then notes and such I can't find myself using more than the following two features:
- screen shot editing
- handwritten formula for calculations (via search->wolframalpha).
Both because they are mostly self-contained and once the activity is over I'm done, so no further editing/sync/open format/ future proofing is needed.

(Request) Samsung galaxy note multi-window feature port

Any chance some enterprising dev could get this running on our nexus 7's
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/05/sam...te-brings-awesome-multi-window-feature-video/http://phandroid.com/2012/10/05/sam...te-brings-awesome-multi-window-feature-video/
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That would be cool if they could, but I'm guessing this is deeply integrated into Touch wiz.
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Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
Umm .. *cough* *cough* Cornerstone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX8w3UZIjkc
It's open source. Roman made an ICS/AOKP/Cornerstone build a long time ago ... felt it was too buggy to continue.
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AOKP got this request recently.
Seems a Cornerstone build would be the only way out...which is unlikely.
I'm fully aware this would probably be quite difficult to port, and likely quite time consuming.
Having said that, I also want this. It makes so much more sense on a 7 inch tablet then a 5 inch whatever.
This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
khaytsus said:
This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
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Running 2 apps at the same time. Seems like a great idea to me. It supports a limited amount of apps, but unlike Galaxy Note 10.1, you could probably hack in other apps to work.
khaytsus said:
This works with a handful of Google Apps, no other apps. I don't see the point.
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Yes, but the Galaxy Note 2 supports all apps in multi-window mode...
This would be *nice* to have but I don't know how much easier it would be then to just multitasking between 2 apps now and having the apps full screen. I can see some of the benefits like watching a youtube video while chatting on Google Talk. There are some good alternatives such as popup video players and notepads that overlay on top of current app and typically are resizable and movable.
While it makes sense this would be better on a 7" then a 5"... it really would be best on a 10". 7" barely gives me enough breathing room for 1 app. Plus most of the "compatible apps" are simple things like a calculator and notes
Well it seems VERY useful to me.
It's better than popup apps in my opinion - more app options.
Overscreen browser is a great alternative for now
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No, it's not.
This allows multiple apps to run side by side, Overskreen is just the browser. Also, it's not even compatible with Jelly Bean, so no one who owns a Nexus 7 can use it.
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Yes, but the Galaxy Note 2 supports all apps in multi-window mode...
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No, as I said, handful of specific Google apps. Read up on it. Will the list grow? Maybe? I'd have to guess it is a sdk used to support the function, is it worth app dev time to do it and possibly maintain multiple versions of their app?
more then google apps
Not just google apps can do this on the samsung note 10.1 .
samsng snote and lecture app
browser
vidoe player
picture gallery
polaris office
Photo shop (special note version)
I think there a few others that are on the samsung web app store. Samsung sbe adding apps to this.
Now for the bubble burst. The reason they work on the galaxy note is the new QUAD Core cpu and 2 GB Very fast ram .. samsung tried to release a less ram/power version of the 10.1 note with a higer res display. they backed the display down and increased the cpu//ram. this is also to support the WACOM S PEN..
I have been reading alot about the device because mine will be here Monday. So the above if from my reading and research. I can update you more mid next week.. I do not see a need for split windows on a 7 inch screen .. get the overscreen browser and try it.. JUST Does not work for productive work...
Hope this help make it more understandable... too bad samsung did not make the n7 . i give up because of the screen issues sent two of them back and will NOT order a 3rd...
Dude. Overskreen DOES NOT work on Jelly Bean. And it is just one app, vs an entire suite of Google Apps.
Also there's no need for window management.
Nexus 7 has a quad-core processor too, just less RAM - which isn't even a problem, it still can handle side by side apps.
And you're telling some weird stuff here. We are talking about Galaxy Note 2, which allows more apps, and works better. AND it works on a 5 inch screen, so it'll be awesome on a seven inch.
So yeah, please don't come back with your 'research' to tell us that you think that this feature is unnecessary.
i hope sincerely as a dev can make a mod for port this feature in future beacause it's very usefull even if work only with google apps it's better ,
anyone know if a moded youtube apps existing for play a video on background because i search since 3 month but not find ?
thx
I don't think there is one, sadly. Android doesn't support true multitasking
While i would love to have or port this it simply isnt possible, it requires a lot of changing to the frameworks and it would be hard to decompile all of samsungs sources and extract it.
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I don't think there is one, sadly. Android doesn't support true multitasking
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Stock android not, but there are a few roms with cornerstone, i think mainly on 10 inch tablets.
Web os did this kinda on a dual core wish android would absorb that multitasking feature right now running multiple apps kinda is a hit and miss
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The best app for your ONE is back!!

The best app for your HTC ONE has finally returned to the play store!!
Smart IR Remote http://8xvb.qr.ai
No I don't work for them. This app simply blew my mind after trying so many other remote apps on my One. Every other app had such an ugly GUI, but this one is beautiful. I have replaced all my remotes in my home with this one app. It's also useful for trolling at bars.
BTW their support is awesome! They will quickly add your device to the app of its not in there (I did not have this problem), but I can say they respond to emails quick as hell.
Anyways, go check it out! It's a must have app for HTC One owners!
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Now compatible with all Samsung tablets and notes carrying an IR Blaster, as well as all similar HTC devices.
Compatible with:
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Aside from backing up your remote layout and the automatic volume-lowering-function, what else differentiates this application from the remote application already on your HTC One?
Just curious in case I should switch over.
The TV application is useless, at least for me. My country isn't listed and I couldn't get my TV to work. With this app I configured my 2 TVs at home in seconds, you just have to select the make
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Aside from backing up your remote layout and the automatic volume-lowering-function, what else differentiates this application from the remote application already on your HTC One?
Just curious in case I should switch over.
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The TV app just doesnt allow for much customization of the buttons. In smart ir remote you can also create macros. I have one that turns on/off my tv, audio system and set-top box with one button. Smart remotes are useful too. I can take all the important buttons from multiple remotes and combine it into one remote.
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msimindlessmsi2 said:
The best app for your HTC ONE has finally returned to the play store!!
Smart IR Remote http://8xvb.qr.ai
No I don't work for them. This app simply blew my mind after trying so many other remote apps on my One. Every other app had such an ugly GUI, but this one is beautiful. I have replaced all my remotes in my home with this one app. It's also useful for trolling at bars.
BTW their support is awesome! They will quickly add your device to the app of its not in there (I did not have this problem), but I can say they respond to emails quick as hell.
Anyways, go check it out! It's a must have app for HTC One owners!
Description
Smart IR Remote, the best InfraRed remote app on Google Play, is now back, and better than ever! With the largest number (and best combination) of features, most beautiful UI, simplest user interface and app flow, and more than 500.000 supported devices (adding hundreds more every day), Smart IR Remote is simply the best IR Remote app out there!
Now compatible with all Samsung tablets and notes carrying an IR Blaster, as well as all similar HTC devices.
Compatible with:
Samsung Galaxy Tab , Samsung Galaxy S4, Samsung Galaxy Note, HTC One, and all other variations carrying an InfraRed Blaster from Samsung and HTC.
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Right now it doenst seem to work with rooted devices, or at least non sense roms like mine (running Beanstalk 4.3.1001). But I emailed the developer and they claimed they will be working on solving this problem, but I was looking at all the functions it had and now I'm SUPER excited to see if they can get it to work, I would love to put this bad boy to work.
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Right now it doenst seem to work with rooted devices, or at least non sense roms like mine (running Beanstalk 4.3.1001). But I emailed the developer and they claimed they will be working on solving this problem, but I was looking at all the functions it had and now I'm SUPER excited to see if they can get it to work, I would love to put this bad boy to work.
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I would contact the Rom developer also. Could be a Rom/issue. Maybe the drivers aren't there to interface with the ir blaster.
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The black version looks better..light grey seems generic

Which App to write with Direct Stylus 2.0

Hey Everybody ,
I want to use the shield Tablet for some Note taking during class / work.
So i am asking for some Apps you tested with Direct Stylus 2.0
Which work best with palm recognition ?
Maybe some advise for settings ?
At the moment l can only say that the Android Handwriting Detection is really not bad. Maybe good for longer texts in landscape mode
Thanks in advance
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Honestly I could not use the stylus very well, the tip is too soft for me to use it to take notes...
Sad to hear mate.
I'm facing some problems with the palm recognition.
I hope Nvidia will enhance this feature in the near future. An dedicated writing App like Dabbler for drawing would be really nice
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When the stylus is removed, there should be an extra navbar icon on the left that disables touch input. I guess that would work to prevent unwanted inputs, just not automatically.
I tried several apps to make quickly notes but the Samsung Note experience is still a mile ahead...
I dont mind the stock evernote, not that I frequently use it. I find it works pretty well. I agree with hairdewx the stylus is kinda soft to take notes with. I use it for drawing myself. Dabbler is friggin horrible but the App ArtFlow works amazing with the Tablet and the Stylus.
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When the stylus is removed, there should be an extra navbar icon on the left that disables touch input. I guess that would work to prevent unwanted inputs, just not automatically.
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It helps but if you want to zoom in or out, moving the sheet you are writing on you cant use your Fingers.
It sometimes happens, that when I lift or move my palm, it is recognized as an touch input with the Stylus.
So there would be the chance to increase the rate of recognition. would really help me
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Stylus only mode > "Write" app
Works great for note taking. I use it daily at work for meetings.
I think the most best app for I've found so far is Autodesk Sketchbook Express. Super fast, fluid and GREAT for note taking although still can't find ruled template but that might just be laziness on my part
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I think the most best app for I've found so far is Autodesk Sketchbook Express. Super fast, fluid and GREAT for note taking although still can't find ruled template but that might just be laziness on my part
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Autodesk Sketchbook has traditionally/historically been a programmed aimed at drawing/painting- so it's going to lack a ruled template, unless you decide to create one/scan one in, and use it as a layer underneath your drawing canvas.
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Autodesk Sketchbook has traditionally/historically been a programmed aimed at drawing/painting- so it's going to lack a ruled template, unless you decide to create one/scan one in, and use it as a layer underneath your drawing canvas.
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Definitely but its recognition of stylus strokes is by far the fastest of any of the apps I've used, including NVIDIA's. That was the appeal. But I do get your point
I can't speak specifically to the stylus, but when I have used normal capacitive styli, the main app I have used is LectureNotes by Acadoid. It's a fantastic note-taking app, and even if you can't finagle it to work exactly like you would think a Galaxy Note would, it has a lot of customization that you can make to the program so that it better fits your needs. There's a free trial version if you want to give it a try, but I use the full version and feel that it is worth the money.
Again, not sure how well it interacts with apps that are not in the default installed software package (I'm hoping fine though, I'm switching to one in the coming weeks!), however I do know that the app itself has some settings for heuristic palm rejection, and that there are different settings like that you could fiddle around with.
Hope that helps!
Anyone actually test lecture notes with the shield? How is the accuracy and speed + palm rejection?
for that mater any other recommendations?
DeBoX said:
Anyone actually test lecture notes with the shield? How is the accuracy and speed + palm rejection?
for that mater any other recommendations?
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Since my previous comment I had the opportunity to use LectureNotes and it is by far the fastest of the apps for stylus recognition...even beating sketchbook.. Very useful and comprehensive app. Highly recommended!
So it works well with lecture notes? As in functional as a note taking tool? ( ie above average accuracy, palm rejection etc)
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So it works well with lecture notes? As in functional as a note taking tool? ( ie above average accuracy, palm rejection etc)
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Yes for sure! Check it out
Papyrus
Papyrus is what i use on my note 3 and my note 10.1 exynos edition.
Works awesome but haven't tried on my shield yet.
If it works, i use all that are mentioned above as well, but for ease of use and cloud integration between devices, and simplicity, i think it is the best.
Will see if i can test later.
Xarr
Anyone tried OneNote with this tablet? (note taking part, possible?)
I personally prefer Fiinotes or Handrite Notes for note taking. I've found these to work very well for note taking and recording meeting minutes.
I got the Nvidia Shield with half the purpose of taking notes during class and I found just the app for it. It's LectureNotes (here's the playstore link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acadoid.lecturenotes) It is a paid app sadly, there's a trial though for you to check it out. You can backup your notes, create separate notebooks for each class or something, you can export them to PDFs, input typed text if you like, pictures, crop them as you like etc. There's really anything you might consider needing, there's options for stylus and for using your fingers at the same time (like recognize the finger as an eraser while the stylus as a pen etc. It's somewhat messy in the settings section, it has far too many so you'll have to play around and see what suits you, it wouldn't do you much good if I gave suggestions of what I use probably, although I can take screenshots if you'd like. Check it out, it has also some extensions for audio recordings (sounds useful) or video recordings (not so useful for me at least), but since you pay extra for them I haven't tried neither.
Best of luck! Hope you like it, it really did the trick for me.

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