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Cook a AOSP ROM, give it to the Official HTC Developers = way to load ROMs?

chusen popped me an Private Message. It contained this:
chusen said:
I've talked to HTC and they told me that if you cook a rom for tattoo sent it to the developers of HTC to see how we can load, you can cook a rom and try it?
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If I read that correctly, he/she said that they have contacted HTC, and if we send them a ROM, they will analyse to see how we can load the sucker onto the device.
Alas, I don't have the tools to do android ROM cooking (yet).
Anyone willing to cook us a stock AOSP ROM for us to pop over to the HTC Devs to analyse? By that, I mean, no root or anything (unless you know what you're doing ), just plain stock (with some mods to make it faster, or something like that.
If HTC doesn't backstab us and 'ally' with us, they may be kind enough to tell how to flash the ROM or boot it via Fastboot or something...
I've also tried to contact HTC Australia in regards to custom kernels not booting, but every time they say "Oh yes, we're going to call you today" they don't. Damn.

Rooting Incredible S [Not Done Yet] Questions & Discussion

Hi guys, i have been following closely to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980497 ...
that is the best rooting IS thread..
i opened this thread is to stop / a place for people to post question & discuss...
reason: because the thread link above... is a place for devs update infos..
so kindly please post question / discuss here instead..
P.S dont turn that great thread to a spam thread. thank you!
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FAQ - Credit l0st.prophet & timbo007up

Great idea jetty.
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Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

The devs will (hopefully) keep this thread monitored all the time (at least i will), but dont expect a answer within seconds
We will try to answer all your questions here. And please keep the original thread nice and clean. Thanks to jenny we now have a thread that can be open for answers.
I hope jenny is willing to update the 1st post with faq's and alike. (i will try to provide them as much as possible). Thanks to knightrocker we have a lot of good basic stuff to tell about
So lets discuss and ask
p.s. yes i will be annoyed by people who don't read and ask the same question that has already been answered (probably multiple times )

So how do I root my IS? can someone give me a link please?
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Dude... Please read the topic ... We arent done rooting yet ... But it will come soon ... Please atleast a little before u post
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Hmmm ... Soo that secu_flag=1 in too deep down too bad ... I will have a look at kexec ... Sounds nice
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Hmmm did a bit of reading on kexec. Timbo i have a question, u said u are trying to use it, but u cant boot into it.
Maybe that is because it is already being used? From what i read, kexec sounds a LOT like the fastboot option on htc's to me. And i don think u can overlap two kernels over the original one. Maybe thats why it was never tried
Please correct me if im wrong.
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Knightrocker just wait mate we are busy with it
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I must say u: im not that much of a linux programmer, mainly tester, but getting to know it. We are just trying to use it (or misuse if u want) to run our code.
Dont know exactly how it works, but it is useable to bypass some of the HTC security that is build in. But like u said: its never been used before, but thats only partial true. It is being used on the X10, and 4 days ago they announced that they succesfull used it to run there own kernel and roms.
Currently there are people working on it and as usual there are only just a few persons who really know what there doing (not me included ) so also i have to wait. Just have a little more know how because i'm involved with it
As soon as i know how it exactly works i am willing to document it (if allowed by the devs though) because maybe we dont want HTC to know how we do it exactly, because it will probably be to easy to disabled again haha.

Heres a starter for the faq
Root, s-off what does that mean?
If you don’t know what root is, go away and do some research. Not going to cover that.
Temp-root/shell-root: By using the psneuter exploit we can get temp-root. This allows us to execute more commands and gives us access to the whole system.
S-on/S-off: Disable the security that is also known as the NAND lock. When S-on is enabled it prevents us to write to the system partition (and various others). They can be written but it will be discarded when you reboot. So we see it as not writeable.
How do I check if im s-on?
Disable the fastboot option in setting > application. Shutdown. Hold down vol-down + powerbutton until you get to a white screen. Read the first line. Should say something like “Vivo bla bla S-ON”. If it says you are S-OFF you are lucky .
What is responsible for the s-on?
The radio firmware (not accesable trough the system directly) sets an flag (secu_flag) to 1 or 0, 1 for s-on, 0 for s-off. To get s-offed we somehow need to change that flag. Currently not possible for our phones.

The kexec was allredy used on the Motorola Milestone, but the Radio was always hanging. But possibily it can help you guys looking at the sources http://and-developers.com/custom_rom:2ndboot

Nice info! Have not looked so good at it (yet) so will do now.
Further more: i know about the X10 since one of there developers is on our team too. So have not looked at other phones yet who uses it

Had an Milestone before my Desire
You can ask the guys on #milestone-modding on freenode on IRC if you need help, they made a lot of experience with this methode since more than six month.

timbo007up said:
Heres a starter for the faq
Root, s-off what does that mean?
If you don’t know what root is, go away and do some research. Not going to cover that.
Temp-root/shell-root: By using the psneuter exploit we can get temp-root. This allows us to execute more commands and gives us access to the whole system.
S-on/S-off: Disable the security that is also known as the NAND lock. When S-on is enabled it prevents us to write to the system partition (and various others). They can be written but it will be discarded when you reboot. So we see it as not writeable.
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Then how it is possible to have a permanent root with S-ON on other devices like DHD?
The way I understood it,is that we can get root privileges but they vanish once we reboot cause they only existed in a volatile memory (since we can't write the code into the non-volatile area because of the S-ON)
This makes me ask: What's a permanent root then?

It is possible on other devices because it (the radio) can be somewhat accessed within userspace (kernel/programs) and than sets the flag to s-off. But it is required to exploit the radio so that it will do what we say. All current know exploits don't work on our phone. So its currently not possible on the new HTC devices.
So it is possible to access certain parts of the phone that are locked. but it requires a lot of skill to get there and than you must find something useable to change the flag.
Permanent root is what it says: stay root even after reboot There were times (mostly early cracking of new (currently old) devices) that people could temporary turn of the flag, set root in the system and that way gain permanent root. But most of the time your not very far away from fully s-off.

timbo007up said:
There were times (mostly early cracking of new (currently old) devices) that people could temporary turn of the flag, set root in the system and that way gain permanent root.
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If you were a chick I would ask you to marry me for such awesome answer
Fancy a beer?

@androf : lol bro, ur crazy.
I have more questions if some1 dosent mind answering. From what i read, kexec skips the firmware part, thus we skip security. But about flashing a custom recovery? Will kexec still be effective or will u use it just to root and then chuck it?
Heck, ive learnt more from this IS section than i did in a whole year of science classes in school
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

@Androf, ty but no thanks dont have any brains left at the moment and a beer would not help me to return it and your welcome!
@knightrocker: this thread is made for questions (the other one is more for the news and progress) so burn out those questions, i assume it still takes some time to get trough though. So until then i'm trying to help everybody here with there questions regarding to it and a appreciate the thoughts about how to get trough.
p.s. you can pm me ofc when u have questions, but i think that you should post them here, so other people can learn too. I'm saying that you have to wait for something to come off that uses the kexec method. Currently being worked on so not much info to be given yet. Dont crop those questions and put them out. Will appreciate if you have more than one question post them in one post though
@mr stylo: we have one the lead devs of the X10 cracking team, i assume he knows where to find the info. but nevertheless its a good learning course for me

@timbo: ok bossman. I will ask any questions i have to make sure every1 learns with me. And ill try to keep it a little compact as u say. I will read some more on this kexec thing. Im glad u guys found that dev dude from the x10. Say hi to him for me please
Btw... Just so i get right, u said i could burn off any questiojs i have and learn as much as can yes? Sry... But imma little sleepy
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I've read some threads mentioning gold card and installing official roms meant for other regions. Can we have an FAQ about that in this thread too?
Appreciate you guys collecting info here

Short update on current status of bootloader unlock (we reached first goal)

Since we are receiving inquires on daily basis from our readers regarding Motorola Atrix bootloader unlock we decided to give short update on projects
which have for target unlocking atrix bootloaders. Motorola did not provide update to 2.3 Gingerbread for it's flagship smart phone (all competitors
already have available update for their top models) community is trying hard to bypass bootloader lock which was obviously imposed by carriers.
And since most of the phone are being sold trough carriers Motorola does not have here much choice then to have locked bootloaders at least for the phones which are being sold trough carriers.
So currently we have 2 serious projects (actually 3, but third one is under radar for now).
First one is khoulk project which has for target to use kernel function kexec to boot secondary (custom) kernel which should
have ability to read/write all partitions and trough this process possibly debrand devices.
Current status on this project is that khoulk have exact address where secondary kernel should be started and currently is trying to build secondary kernel and more info can be found in our last article regarding this topic here.
(This still needs to be confirmed by khoulk)
Second project is being developed by famous hacker tenfar from China, he is very well known as person who built clockworkmod recovery for Motorola Defy trough exploit called 2nd init bootloader, and partialy working clockworkmod recovery for Atrix.
Currently this is only way to for now to flash Atrix with pesudo ROM's for Atrix. Since tenfar has pretty impressive reputation in this field of expertise as well as houlk we should wait and see who should be first to the Atrix throne.
Also is worth mentioning here that 2init bootloader (bootloader menu) hack for defy is NOT publicly available (closed source, Korean authors claimed that this is due to possible bugs and instability, but it also may be way to prevent Motorola from patching this exploit in further releases) so tenfar has to reverse whole recovery method and try to implement it for Atrix.
tenfar :the 2ndinit is truely developed by Skrilax_CZ .Thank you for your hard work.and i need to make clear that the bootstrap recovery is not develop by me, i just port it to defy and the atrix 4g also i've modify the code to work with this two devices propertyly.but it's Koush's and many other developer who work on Cyanogen Mod to make that progress start from aosp sources. the Android bootmenu project as the OP worngly called "2nd-init" is developed by [email protected]
but the 2ndinit credit should go to Skrilax_CZ! and the credit of bootstrap recovery should goes to Koush and me .sorry for my english.
Again Thanks all the devs who work on those projects to make the world much better........
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Third project is remaining for now under radar and as soon we have approval from it's authors we will publish more info here.
Update 2
OK guy's I think that we need to support dev's, tenfar developed currently only method with clockwork to flash custom pseudo rom's for atrix and he did that without even having atrix.
If we want to have custom recovery we need to show and support this projects.
Price for Atrix in china is around 750$ and since we all already paid hefty sum
for our locked phones I does not make big difference to give few $ to support dev's who are trying really hard to give us full access to our phones.
So goal is the following
1. Raise 750$ by donating tenfar for his atrix.
2. Extend current work to adopt 2init bootloader method for Atrix
3. Have ability to flash custom kernels
So to speed things up here is my contribution.
100$ to tenfar paypal account (Confirmation number: 0DT07904N51875837.)
Who is next ?
P.S. Every $ counts.
Click here to donate tenfar.
Here is the original article about this topic.
http://cookedroms.com/index.html/_/roms/update-on-motorola-atrix-bootloader-exploit-r137
Update 3. In less than hour we manage to raise 200$ I'm really proud to be part of this community.
We need 750$
We have 200$
In percantage 27%
Update 4
We raised in 6 hours today in total 440$ which is roughly 70% of needed amount we need still 310$.
Thanks to all people who donated money!
In less than 9 hours we managed to reach our first goal!
We raised enough to get dev phone for tenfar
Here is the list of donors for today (20.May.2011)
You will notice that some nickname fields are empty (please contact me by pm
with You realname which You used to send donation and I will add it to list)
Also amounts are different than what You actually donated but this
because paypal is taking few $ for them selves.
Nickname Amount
csdalporto 4.5
GandalfGraw 18.92
holtenc 297.61
18.92
papy-polo 38.14
ajmaness 9.31
parabola19 95.8
yiyo 9.31
joeycass 9.31
drumercalzone09 18.92
msfn 23.72
jcrew1228 18.92
23.72
artemalek 9.31
4.5
4.5
zole2112 18.92
jruweaver 18.92
orkan39 9.31
s1mpd1ddy 9.31
Greenbelt 4.5
jiggytom 9.31
yokopol 9.31
rozzco 18.92
scorneil 9.31
tomerbn 9.31
tsouza 23.72
Vangelis13 14.11
CaelanT 28.53
ikenley 47.75
zexbig 95.8
P.S.Sorry for formating WYSIWYG editor is giving me hard time.
Update 4. CWM is working trough charger exploit and we got ADB running.
Screenshots can be found at http://cookedroms.com/index.html/_/android/first-screenshots-of-running-cwm-on-atrix-trough-new-tenf-r138

That's an awesome update.
Thank you so much.
Sent from my Atrix (in Australia)

Yes!
We all want to know what's going on!!
Nice post!
Why just tenfar help kholk?
Keep first post updated please!!
It will be sticky by the replies!
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

an update/summary of this kind was much needed.
Thank you very much for the same.
patiently watching the development for atrix.
hoping that moto releases gb for atrix by may end or in June.

Thank 4 the update..
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

zexbig said:
Second project is being developed by famous hacker tenfar from China, he is very well known as person who built clockworkmod recovery for Motorola Defy trough exploit called 2nd init bootloader, and partialy working clockworkmod recovery for Atrix.
Currently this is only way to for now to flash Atrix with pesudo ROM's for Atrix. Since tenfar has pretty impressive reputation in this field of expertise as well as houlk
we should wait and see who should be first to the Atrix throne.
Also is worth mentioning here that 2init bootloader hack for defy is NOT publicly available (closed source, Korean authors claimed that this is due to possible bugs and instability, but it also may be way to prevent Motorola from patching this exploit in further releases) so tenfar has to reverse whole recovery method and try to implement it for Atrix.
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There was somebody else claiming to implement 2nd-init??? Because I was the one who implemented that for the Milestone originally, and the binary is universal: http://and-developers.com/2ndinit

thanks for the update, here's hoping both methods come through at the same time LOL.

Skrilax_CZ said:
There was somebody else claiming to implement 2nd-init??? Because I was the one who implemented that for the Milestone originally, and the binary is universal: http://and-developers.com/2ndinit
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Also is worth mentioning here that 2init bootloader hack for defy is NOT publicly available (closed source, Korean authors claimed that this is due to possible bugs and instability, but it also may be way to prevent Motorola from patching this exploit in further releases) so tenfar has to reverse whole recovery method and try to implement it for Atrix.
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the 2ndinit is truely developed by Skrilax_CZ .Thank you for your hard work.and i need to make clear that the bootstrap recovery is not develop by me, i just port it to defy and the atrix 4g also i've modify the code to work with this two devices propertyly.but it's Koush's and many other developer who work on Cyanogen Mod to make that progress start from aosp sources. the Android bootmenu project as the OP worngly called "2nd-init" is developed by [email protected]
but the 2ndinit credit should go to Skrilax_CZ! and the credit of bootstrap recovery should goes to Koush and me .sorry for my english.
Again Thanks all the devs who work on those projects to make the world much better........

Tenfar thank You for updating thread, Can You give us some timeline or current status of Your project ?
P.S. If I understand Your signature correctly You don't own Atrix 4G but You are developing recovery for it ?

Thank you very much for the update!
Someone previously started another thread asking the community to donate money to supply an Atrix to developers like Tenfar who currently do not have one. I would support this idea, and am willing to contribute, not just to help us get the Atrix "unlocked" in whatever manner, but as a thank you for all the hard work.
<edit> Found original thread! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076504

This is why I love xda
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zexbig said:
Tenfar thank You for updating thread, Can You give us some timeline or current status of Your project ?
P.S. If I understand Your signature correctly You don't own Atrix 4G but You are developing recovery for it ?
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Yes, i still dont have a atrix 4g. i am borrow my friend's when i need to test my. there is no time line that i can provide. i will use my free time to do this.

OK guy's I think that we need to support dev's, tenfar developed currently only method with clockwork to flash custom pseudo rom's for atrix and he did that without even having atrix.
If we want to have custom recovery we need to show and support this projects.
Price for Atrix in china is around 750$ and since we all already paid hefty sum
for our locked phones I does not make big difference to give few $ to support dev's who are trying really hard to give us full access to our phones.
So goal is the following
1. Raise 750$ by donating tenfar for his atrix.
2. Extend current work to adopt 2init bootloader method for Atrix
3. Have ability to flash custom kernels
So to speed things up here is my contribution.
100$ to tenfar paypal account (Confirmation number: 0DT07904N51875837.)
Who is next ?
P.S. Every $ counts.

tenfar said:
Yes, i still dont have a atrix 4g. i am borrow my friend's when i need to test my. there is no time line that i can provide. i will use my free time to do this.
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Tenfar, I just donated $50USD.
I believe in this work and want you to do the best you can, please make sure to notify the community of how much money you have for the cause so we know how much more you need.
I still reserve $150 AUD for the first person to load a custom Kernel so this means I will have contributed close to $200 for this.
Please let us know what you need and what else can help us to free our phones.
Cheers,
Irwin

Irvin You are the man

$30 USD from me, Confirmation number: 7MY394202T758501V.
That's in addition to $20 I sent him a couple of weeks ago!

Hi there,
Will contribute towards an Atrix for Tenfar, however: why don't we buy it in the US at an AT&T store, off contract & then ship it to him? Much cheaper, phone can be sim-unlocked quite easily. A moderator from the US can perhaps take the task?
Just a thought. I'll contribute either way.

zexbig said:
Irvin You are the man
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If you know of me outside of XDA, you know what I'm trying to achieve. Look at my signature if you're not sure what my non-dev contributions are.
I believe everyone has the ability to help no matter what their skill set.
Agreed!
Vangelis13 said:
Hi there,
Will contribute towards an Atrix for Tenfar, however: why don't we buy it in the US at an AT&T store, off contract & then ship it to him? Much cheaper, phone can be sim-unlocked quite easily. A moderator from the US can perhaps take the task?
Just a thought. I'll contribute either way.
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Tenfar, can you organise to get yourself the AT&T version of the device, recruit the services of one of the contributors to help you if needed.

Regarding shipping from US to china there are significant problems which involve domestic custom office and it can delay significantly whole process, so I recommend that we skip that for now.

Irvin,
I'm well aware of Your good work, and I know that motorola internally is also aware of this
Just keep up with great job!
ikenley said:
If you know of me outside of XDA, you know what I'm trying to achieve. Look at my signature if you're not sure what my non-dev contributions are.
I believe everyone has the ability to help no matter what their skill set.
Agreed!
Tenfar, can you organise to get yourself the AT&T version of the device, recruit the services of one of the contributors to help you if needed.
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[Discussion] S-OFF for HTC Desire C/Golfu ...

Hey Guys.. I Created this thread for discussing S-OFF for our Desire C (obviously) ... Recently I contacted HTC Devs and here what they say ...
Dear Reinel Caluag,
Thanks for contacting HTC Philippines
we appreciate your continuous attentions with our products and services. We understand that you wanted to have an S off for your HTC Desire C.
For us to easily solve the issue, we would like to get the exact make and model of the handset. And it would be best if you could provide to us the IMEI or the serial number of your phone for proper documentation of your account with us. You may usually get the IMEI on the sticker at the back of the handset or by dialing *#06# on your phone’s dialer.
Regarding the concern, as we gathered some information, S-on or security on is a feature on our device where the system software of the handset is protected. For this, since you mentioned that you've already unlocked the bootloader of the handset and you still have S-On, we will raise this concern to our management for us to know how you can get S-off. For the meantime, please do expect another email response about updates and resolution for the said concern.
Please let us know if this information was able to help you. If not, kindly inform us the issues you have encountered. Should you need further assistance, you may give us a call at 1800-14410789 for PLDT or 1800-89086588 for Globe. You may provide your customer ID number “ for us to easily pull up your account. And our business hours are from Mondays to Sundays, 8:00AM to 8:00PM.
On the other hand, if we have successfully answered all of your concerns, you may close the ticket by accessing the links provided as well as for proper documentation of your account with us.
Once the ticket is closed, you will be receiving an invite for a survey. We would greatly appreciate if you can participate on a quick survey regarding how we were able to assist you with your concern.
Thank you for making business with us. Have a nice day!
If this answers your comment or question, please click here to complete the process.
To submit another comment, please click here.
Sincerely,
The HTCDev Team
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After Seeing that.. i quickly reply them .... they need IMEI,and some phone info ... and I send them ...
What Do ya Think Guys.. ???

(*_*)
Good, Its good to see the HTCDev team showing even the slightest support for the Desire C
Maybe we will get S-OFF maybe we wont.
Right now it seems to be the thing we need most right now :/
Thanks for doing this Addictz10
Sparky

Excuse my noobishness, but I don't really see the point behind getting s-off for our phone. I understand it will enable us to flash kernels from recovery mode itself and we can flash radio images to our phone (which I think is risky and i would never try that). And we can flash a different bootloader. But with it comes great security risks, and the possibility to actually hard brick our phones. So given a choice, I would still opt for S-on. Flashing kernels through fastboot is not that much of a problem, it hardly takes any time. Is there something I'm missing regarding S-off?

aashay960 said:
Excuse my noobishness, but I don't really see the point behind getting s-off for our phone. I understand it will enable us to flash kernels from recovery mode itself and we can flash radio images to our phone (which I think is risky and i would never try that). And we can flash a different bootloader. But with it comes great security risks, and the possibility to actually hard brick our phones. So given a choice, I would still opt for S-on. Flashing kernels through fastboot is not that much of a problem, it hardly takes any time. Is there something I'm missing regarding S-off?
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nah! my Device before got an S-off i flash kernels through recovery without having any problem... S-off is Safe ... but if you dont know what are you doing you'll end up in a big problem ... :3 ... if we have S-OFF then it means we will have a chance to get DUAL BOOT!! ..

addictz10 said:
nah! my Device before got an S-off i flash kernels through recovery without having any problem... S-off is Safe ... but if you dont know what are you doing you'll end up in a big problem ... :3 ... if we have S-OFF then it means we will have a chance to get DUAL BOOT!! ..
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So we can run two roms together, like one sense and one cm10?

aashay960 said:
So we can run two roms together, like one sense and one cm10?
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yeah ... !!

My turn to state an opinion. IMHO dual booting is a bad idea. It takes up more space than it should. The only benefit i see from it is as a test enviorment.
Like have your main rom setup, and then flash test builds of other roms alongside it. But that is the only benefit.
Isn't different bootloaders device specific? If so who will be the advanced dev guy that will port/build them for us?
Im supporting s-off, but highly hesitant whether it will be of much use on a such low end device.

addictz10 said:
Hey Guys.. I Created this thread for discussing S-OFF for our Desire C (obviously) ... Recently I contacted HTC Devs and here what they say ...
After Seeing that.. i quickly reply them .... they need IMEI,and some phone info ... and I send them ...
What Do ya Think Guys.. ???
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Nah HTC won't do anything to us
its like when we send a huge amount of emails with no answer
They leave their old phones and take care of new ones
Sent from my HTC Desire C using xda app-developers app

I just want S-OFF the change the ugly splash screen to something nicer and ofcourse for flashing kernels from recovery!

addictz10 said:
nah! my Device before got an S-off i flash kernels through recovery without having any problem... S-off is Safe ... but if you dont know what are you doing you'll end up in a big problem ... :3 ... if we have S-OFF then it means we will have a chance to get DUAL BOOT!! ..
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I am not sure about Dual boot.
becuse pico doesn't have S-off but a dual boot

I think they have s-off .. coz dual boot needs s-off because dual boot flash kernels through recovery... while us on fastboot
Sent from my HTC Desire C using xda app-developers app

I agree with noahvt about changing splash screen and its so annoying having to turn on my PC to change kernel and we need to get a full touch cwm not twrp like 6.0.3.5
Sent from my HTC Desire C using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

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YAH! I KNOW!! Just do What we want -_-
Dear Reinel Caluag,
Thanks for contacting HTC Philippines
Thank you for the information that you have provided. Regarding the concern, as we've checked our resources, we found out that we don't need to turn the security off to accomplish the basic installation of custom ROM. Security on by default is good for some reasons, it protects the system software configuration such as radio, boot, recovery and system. However, once you've unlocked the bootloader of the handset, you will have lifted the restrictions of the handset and you have the means to customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. For this, we are sorry to say that our management did not give the exact information on how to turn the security off. But as for coordination, normally, once you've unlocked the bootloader of the handset it will automatically have S-Off and developers would easily access or toggle the options on the phone specifically with Security off and on.
If this answers your comment or question, please click here to complete the process.
To submit another comment, please click here.
Sincerely,
The HTCDev Team
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Reply of HTC Devs ..

addictz10 said:
YAH! I KNOW!! Just do What we want -_-
Reply of HTC Devs ..
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I've send an e-mail as well
I stated that they should atleast consider it!
EDIT: for my asus transformer it was so easy just unlock the bootloader and i was flashing a new bootloader immediately after that why does HTC have to make it this hard :\

noahvt said:
I've send an e-mail as well
I stated that they should atleast consider it!
EDIT: for my asus transformer it was so easy just unlock the bootloader and i was flashing a new bootloader immediately after that why does HTC have to make it this hard :\
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because their buts :silly:

Shad0wPanda said:
because their buts :silly:
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Their flagship device (htc one) received an s-off not long after release so yeah i think they just don't care about the lower and devices
---------- Post added at 04:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:07 PM ----------
WOW :silly:
this is the reply from htc (the most stupid reply i've ever seen) this is what they call "customer service"
Dear Noah Van Tiggel,
Thank you for your email regarding your HTC device.
I would like to inform you that we do not give support for this issue.
If you have quetions you can search it in this site http://www.htcdev.com/.
I hope I have informed you sufficiently,
Best regards
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Means the going boat went down ;(
Can't we build a bootloader(S-OFF) ones.
The ones who build these are also humans like us.
And no one is born with ultiamte knowlege.
There always is a horizon and a hope that shall always be in our heart
We can do it
Pressurise HTC.
We need S-OFF

aman23091998 said:
Means the going boat went down ;(
Can't we build a bootloader(S-OFF) ones.
The ones who build these are also humans like us.
And no one is born with ultiamte knowlege.
There always is a horizon and a hope that shall always be in our heart
We can do it
Pressurise HTC.
We need S-OFF
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For what i understand is that we need an xtc clip (link: http://www.xtc.hk/index.html ) people at pico thread have spoken about this but i don't know if this will work on our desire c's it's if someone is willing to risk it? i found this guide (it is for the htc desire hd but it will be sort of similar with other devices i think) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLWtIzOkEbI
EDIT: it's possible without xtc clip as shown in this thread for wildfire s http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342468
EDIT2: another pico thread about s-off : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957236
EDIT3: i'm gonna try to put my phone into diag mode right now!
EDIT4(lol): i won't give up this easily
EDIT5: damnit htc even diag mode is not included in our desire c :\

noahvt said:
For what i understand is that we need an xtc clip (link: http://www.xtc.hk/index.html ) people at pico thread have spoken about this but i don't know if this will work on our desire c's it's if someone is willing to risk it? i found this guide (it is for the htc desire hd but it will be sort of similar with other devices i think) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLWtIzOkEbI
EDIT: it's possible without xtc clip as shown in this thread for wildfire s http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342468
EDIT2: another pico thread about s-off : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957236
EDIT3: i'm gonna try to put my phone into diag mode right now!
EDIT4(lol): i won't give up this easily
EDIT5: damnit htc even diag mode is not included in our desire c :\
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Damn you htc when I was London I went past a HTC building and was tempting to go in and say
Here it is give me god damn s-off for our ************* HTC golfu. Yarr and maybe a few HTC ones¿ and all UE booty
So bloody close
Sent from my HTC Desire C using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Shad0wPanda said:
Damn you htc when I was London I went past a HTC building and was tempting to go in and say
Here it is give me god damn s-off for our ************* HTC golfu. Yarr and maybe a few HTC ones¿ and all UE booty
So bloody close
Sent from my HTC Desire C using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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I'm gonna buy a N4 at the end of the year since it has better support then HTC does :'( but i'll keep in touch and keep developing for this phone i still don't understand htc doesn't give us proper support (and because there is a big crack running trough my phone )

[Q] Port HTC One ROMs

Hello all devs and HTC One users. I've been searching a lot on XDA, Google and all over internet but couldnt find a better place to post this. I just got a HTC Butterfly S and wish to use CM, Paranoid, Carbon or ANY other rom which I can use CM Themes Engine and have an AOSP look. I had a HTC Sensation before, and loved everything I had using CM ROM.
I wished some dev here could port any of this ROMs to this device, I know is not an easy job. I already tried to do such work, but all tutorials, guides and etc on XDA refer to a BASE ROM, and my device is unsupported, so I cant have a base ROM to port. I know M7 has almost the same specs as ButterflyS, so maybe is a little easier.
I hope someone can help me, because I THINK I did all I can.Thanks :good:
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I'd like to know how XDA works with hiring devs to do such work, I can donate money, it will be not for free. Thanks
PS: Sorry for my bad english.

UP! Someone to help?

neonoafs said:
UP! Someone to help?
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We dont "hire" devs. Development starts from the people that use the device. Even big name roms will not work on a device that someone on the team doesnt own.
So your best bet would be to find someone with the device, Then track down all the kernel and device source code.

zelendel said:
We dont "hire" devs. Development starts from the people that use the device. Even big name roms will not work on a device that someone on the team doesnt own.
So your best bet would be to find someone with the device, Then track down all the kernel and device source code.
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Thanks zelendel, I understood now. I'll contact some devs to see if they can help me. Do you know someone I can start with? Thanks once again