Hi,
I recently got this phone and upgraded it to android 2.3 (V20N), but with both FroYo and Gingerbread, the phone seems to be a bit slow. Opening application list, opening apps, or even just switching desktop screens is not as smooth as i would expect it to be. Everything has a little bit of lag to it, and and switching desktop screen is a little bit choppy, not perfectly smooth...
My brother has very cheap Samsung Galaxy Mini, and every single action on his phone is a lot more fluid, responds instantly with no lag, and animations are perfectly smooth.
I think LG messed up when customizing Android for this phone. My question is... is there any way to make OS run as fast as on Samsung Galaxy Mini for example? Is there any stock android ROM available without any LG bloat added?
Thanks in advance.
It seem you have some app, which consumes your power. Try the app betterbatterystats here from the forum to identify this app. Normaly these kind of apps are realy strong battery eater.
The hotmail app is normaly a "hot" candidate of a trash app.
If you don't have success make a factory reset, of course make before a backup of your personal data.
And everytime you have the option to change to a cooked Rom like Zeuss by Huexxx. This Rom rocks!
No, i dont have any demanding apps running on background. I have battery stats app where i see that nothing consumes power, and also my battery usually lasts for over 4 days, so i dont think there is any problem with that.
The problem is that the system overall is not nearly as smooth and responsive as galaxy mini, which has a lot worse HW specs, yet it responds a lot quicker and all animation are a bit smoother. For example, in LG-edited android, pinch gesture on desktop causes very laggy animation. Widged browser by LG has very laggy scrolling and moving icons around desktop in edit mode is laggy too. Everything by LG is just laggy, and whole system doesnt respon indstantly, but with some delays.
It is not the smooth experience i want it to be.
I also want either clean Android rom, or original vendor ROM. I dont want any customized third party ROMs, for several reasons:
1, Zeus is overclocked. I hate that, it decreases hardware lifespan.
2, While ROM cooks are usually skilled editors and programmers, they are really bad designers, and usually design appearance of ROM to their own taste with no uniform aesthetics and design that would look professional. I want a professional visual design, and those unfortunately in most of the cases come only from the Google or vendors (HTC, samsung...) themselves.
3, ROM cooks usually include a lot of their bloatware. Vendors do too, i know, but in their case, those additions at least have some unified ideology.
4, Most of the custom ROMs are usually rooted. I simply don't want that.
Oh, and i forgot to add. I hate the performance of the stock ROM even right after factory reset. I did factory reset several times. But it doesn't solve speed issue by any means. The OS is just slower and laggier by its nature. The way LG altered it.
Zeus is overclock-able but by default runs on max 1000.
Give it a try. I try many rooms and always come back to it for the smooth running.
And yes LG have screwed big time the poor black on the software side.
First show this video of a stock v20, if your fone is a lot slower, give it back, to repair or to get one new or another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_uYbs0PfE&list=UU7YbxG8ZoH2OBuLc-v-VTSQ&index=3&feature=plcp
It isn't your/our job to make it work.
Over cooked ROM Zeus, base on LG v20:
1. It isn't overlocked, but you can if you want.
2. It´s nice, but you have a lot of themses to select. Original LG, ICS...
3. It have no bloadware. It is realy clean and have a costumice tool. Everything can be modified to everyone needs.
4. Everyones onwn decision.
and it is a lot more fluid that the stock one.
Ok, gotta try zeus.
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Ok, gotta try zeus.
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If you have a hardwareproblem I would'n root. Compare with above linked video. If yours is slower, give your phone back.
Well, unfortunatelly it seems that i order to instal Zeus ROM, i would need to root my phone, and i dont want to do that.
Also, yes... my phone runs exactly as fast as in the video above, but it is still not nearly as fast as Galaxy Mini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVomy_hEjpM&feature=relmfu
This is video of Galaxy Mini, it responds a lot quicker, and also animations are a lot smoother than in case of P970. Especially the pinch animation on desktop for example
I don't see a difference between the Mini in the video to mine OB with Zeus. Consider that the OB has 5x more resolution than the mini.
What you can try is another launcher like Zeam Launcher, Launcher Pro or Go Launcher. All the three works more fluid than LGs one.
Regards.
Which one of the 3 would you recommend/consider fastest?
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Which one of the 3 would you recommend/consider fastest?
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In order of appearance faster->slower, but also from some features to complex. Make a try they are simpel to install and to deinstall all 3 works good. I actually prefer 360 launcher due its features, but it isn't fast.
Ok, thank you very much. Launcher was indeed the problem. I tried all 3 and I am sticking with Launcher Pro as it seems to be fastest of the 3. My phone finally feels snappy. Thanks!
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So here's the skinny. I'm new to the whole rooting-esque activities on a phone. The hero is my first smart phone, and i'm looking to expand what it can do.
BUT.
All of the roms I seem to find are 50/50 good/bad to me. They have some nice things like the OC/UV/Jit working, but then they do all sorts of stuff like live wallpapers, all sorts of color changes, lock screen changes, etc etc.
What I'd like, is a minimalist ROM, that as close as possibly matches the following:
SenseUI Dialer app
Auto OC to 710 (and underclock when not in use)
UV
Jit
Good Screen response (with no real keyboard, the onscreen MUST work well)
Things I don't want
Features that don't work (Camera, BT, MMS etc not working)
Instability (I'd trade less crazy for more stable)
See-ums like Live Wallpapers, and other things that do not add function other than visual "niceness"
So my question, is there anything like this?
honeybun
and not the sweet bread variety.
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So my question, is there anything like this?
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you do know there is a Q&A board
diicembr said:
So here's the skinny. I'm new to the whole rooting-esque activities on a phone. The hero is my first smart phone, and i'm looking to expand what it can do.
BUT.
All of the roms I seem to find are 50/50 good/bad to me. They have some nice things like the OC/UV/Jit working, but then they do all sorts of stuff like live wallpapers, all sorts of color changes, lock screen changes, etc etc.
What I'd like, is a minimalist ROM, that as close as possibly matches the following:
SenseUI Dialer app
Auto OC to 710 (and underclock when not in use)
UV
Jit
Good Screen response (with no real keyboard, the onscreen MUST work well)
Things I don't want
Features that don't work (Camera, BT, MMS etc not working)
Instability (I'd trade less crazy for more stable)
See-ums like Live Wallpapers, and other things that do not add function other than visual "niceness"
So my question, is there anything like this?
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i would say pick up the latest fresh rom, its made for just the basic stuff and you can add more if you want. jit can be very unstable at times so i dont know why you would want that
fresh http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681856
oc-710 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=722073
EDIT: this post goes in general as well as is doesnt really help anything "develop"
perfect one for you, and it happens to be the best.
I use what I think you are looking for exactly, with maybe the exception of the HTC dialer. The absolute best custom 2.1 Rom out there, that does not have much of the eye candy that just drains your battery and personally I find it to be clutter and annoying, it is caller DarchDroid 2.7.
It does not have HTC Sense whatsoever in it. It was built using a different source than what HTC puts on it, and I like it much better. It is very fast, responsive, touch screen works real nice, it has JIT, UV, OC to 710 by default, does not have live wallpaper. It is clean, good to the eye without the glitter, camera and all that works, basically everything works on the phone.
it uses all the standard aosp apps by default like aosp keyboard (which personally i find it very accurate and easy to use).
If the default apps do not please you, you can always dl and install apps from the market.
to check out and dl darchdroid, goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703133
if you want to use all the google apps, then be sure to dl and install the google ****s on that page as well.
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I use what I think you are looking for exactly, with maybe the exception of the HTC dialer. The absolute best custom 2.1 Rom out there, that does not have much of the eye candy that just drains your battery and personally I find it to be clutter and annoying, it is caller DarchDroid 2.7.
It does not have HTC Sense whatsoever in it. It was built using a different source than what HTC puts on it, and I like it much better. It is very fast, responsive, touch screen works real nice, it has JIT, UV, OC to 710 by default, does not have live wallpaper. It is clean, good to the eye without the glitter, camera and all that works, basically everything works on the phone.
it uses all the standard aosp apps by default like aosp keyboard (which personally i find it very accurate and easy to use).
If the default apps do not please you, you can always dl and install apps from the market.
to check out and dl darchdroid, goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703133
if you want to use all the google apps, then be sure to dl and install the google ****s on that page as well.
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this is great if you don't want sense, to me its a personal preference thing so you can try each. I used dd2.7 for a loooong time and it is the most stable rom Ive had with up to 30 hour battery life
I'm still using Ic3Rom v2.8. It is by far the best ROM I've flashed in terms of performance. It looks mostly AOSP, but still has the Sense dialer and people apps, with other Sense goodies in there as well. Other recent ROMs I've tried out are DarchDroid and the Cyanogen 6 test, and while I've really liked a lot about both of them, Ic3 is more stable and MUCH quicker than either.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663366&highlight=ic3
DD all the way...best rom ive used to date.. and i have tried them all!!! ic3rom close second!!!
i have to say darch droid, OR buufed Rom are indeed THE best ive used. Both are fast, Stable, AND both use less then 100mb onboard flash! good luck to u though.
I can't believe no one mentioned nfinitefx45's ROM which is 100% stock, with A2SD and everything working. Don't mind the screenshots at the bottom, that's what it looks like only if you flash the optional file for the zen aka MyTouch 3G theme.
As for the OC (and optional undervolt), get DarchKernel for nfinitefx rom here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
Users have reported this combo to be very, very fast. The only thing it doesn't have is JIT.
Like others mentioned, Iced HoneyBun ROM is also good, and DarchKernel is also available for it
IceRom 2.8
NOIDBETA still working on oc
codelockdown said:
i have to say darch droid, OR buufed Rom are indeed THE best ive used. Both are fast, Stable, AND both use less then 100mb onboard flash! good luck to u though.
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Definitely either one is a solid choice, but I prefer Buufed because its completely themed out. Its 100% AOSP (meaning its ridiculously fast), includes all the stuff you like (UV, OC, JIT) and is still very stable, and it looks pretty sweet.
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I can't believe no one mentioned nfinitefx45's ROM which is 100% stock, with A2SD and everything working. Don't mind the screenshots at the bottom, that's what it looks like only if you flash the optional file for the zen aka MyTouch 3G theme.
As for the OC (and optional undervolt), get DarchKernel for nfinitefx rom here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
Users have reported this combo to be very, very fast. The only thing it doesn't have is JIT.
Like others mentioned, Iced HoneyBun ROM is also good, and DarchKernel is also available for it
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I agree. Can't believe someone didn't mention nfinitefx's ROM. I am runing it right now and even without OC it runs very smoothly.
+1 for nfinitefx
Moved as not Development.
I'm sure I'm setting myself up here, but what advantages are there to the custom ROMs at this point?
I'm running stock Froyo 2.2 (I did update the radio to 5.08, though), stock bootloader, and I'm not rooted. I'm on T-Mobile in the Tampa, FL area.
I'm not sure if it's a coincidence, or just because most people that are posting on XDA are running custom ROMs, but I don't really have ANY of the problems most people on here have. My battery life is great, and the phone is overall VERY stable. I've tried other launchers, themes, etc., but I always prefer the stability of the stock setup over aesthetics.
The few issues I have had I can attribute to poorly written apps (force closes, battery vampires), or known hardware problems (mediocre 3G connectivity at times, etc).
I can understand if you have a phone like the MyTouch that never got any official updates after 1.6, or you want to try the next leaked software on your phone. But the Nexus One has had tons of official support and updates up to this point. Before Froyo was officially released, I found myself better off with stock recovery to load the latest, greatest Froyo build.
Sorry for the rambling, but I would greatly appreciate any education I can get on what's packed into these custom ROMs that everyone gets so excited about.
THANKS!
Don't really feel like typing all the reasons haha, but there's a lot of stuff to enjoy with custom roms. If stock works for you that's great. I don't know anyone that's ever gone custom and wanted to go back but I'm sure it happens. End of the day it's whatever makes you happy. A lot of us want more than just a great experience, we want to see what's possible. You can view the changelog for the latest Cyanogenmod(most popular custom ROM) build here http://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_vendor_cyanogen/blob/froyo/CHANGELOG.mkdn
1. More control over the appearance of the OS. Get rid of that ugly white notification bar and replace it with a sexy black one, for example.
2. Removing the stock apps from the phone that you don't use or want. Why have them sitting there taking up space and potentially resources for no reason? Sure they don't take up much in terms of storage space, but if you use a lot of apps, every little bit counts.
3. Undervolting and over/underclocking. Get that extra little performance boost, or cut it back. When I was UV'd to 800mV and UC'd to 806mhz, I noticed no performance difference or problems (note: I don't play 3d games on my phone) and my battery life was insane. 24 hours of normal use would put me to 65% give or take.
4. Relating to number one, more control over other things. I've ripped stock, but customized, apps from random ROMs and pushed them to my phone. Black Facebook & Twitter widgets (white ones are ugly), darkened (black & dark grey) stock messaging interface with white text, etc.
5. Trackball Alert Pro.
I'm sure that others can add more, but the above are the main reasons I rooted mine.
A tiny little thing called Apps2SD+, for example.
Multiple audio/video decoder support.
Lots of Linux binaries bundled.
Lots of modifications to stock software (contacts, browser) that increase their usefulness (for example, do you really like to type "about:debug" each time you want to change browser client after reboot?).
etc etc.
Thanks for all the great info.
The underclocking sounds interesting. I don't play any games on my phone, and extra battery life is always nice.
I'm not too interested in customizing the appearance too much. Coming from an iPhone, I'm pretty happy with the looks of the stock Froyo UI compared to that.
Again, thanks for the time you guys took to give me some information. I greatly appreciate it!
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Ryjabo said:
1. More control over the appearance of the OS. Get rid of that ugly white notification bar and replace it with a sexy black one, for example.
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5. Trackball Alert Pro.
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This was reason #1 and 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 for me, respectively
Track ball skip song.. Enough said.
If I install a custom ROM, when a new one comes out, do I have to install the ROM from the start and I loose my setings etc. or do I just update it?
Depends on the ROM maker. Most make their ROMs backwards-compatible, so you can upgrade. Going between different makers' ROMs you mostly need to wipe and start fresh (though there are apps that can back up and restore pretty much everything).
I am thinking to try Cyanogenmod ROM, bot I don't wan't to cofigurate all the things when a new ROM comes out.
Besides the obvious access to particular Honeycomb apps, what other benefits does Honeycomb offer on our G-Tabs?
I ask because it seems like some people prefer Honeycombs GUI but I also noticed that one is able to theme their tablets to look like Honeycomb while staying on a non-Honeycomb based ROM.
What tipped it for me to go ahead and install the Bottle of Smoke alpha:
- improved widgets, including scrollable Gmail previewer
- Gmail app is fantastic
- access to 3.0-only tablet-optimized apps (like Touchdown for my Exchange email)
- laying out the homescreens is easier since you can preview the widgets
Just a couple of things I've discovered (I just applied this ROM yesterday...):
- improved Market interface
- HC themes approach but do not fully capture the "holographic" feel of HC
-the notification system is different enough that I'm not sure whether I like it better or not.
I'm not mentioning the particular quirks of the BoS alpha - there are threads here and elsewhere that chronicle those. They should definitely be part of your decision, as it takes a good measure of patience to deal with.
I went to the Century Eyes Rom by roebeet, and I'm loving it. It gives me the tablet feel with no bugs. I do miss the market and Youtube apps from honeycomb though.
(Century Eyes = Notion Ink Adam's EdenUI)
Although being just an alpha and lacking flash support, I don't see myself moving away from BOS anytime soon. Granted quite few areas still have bugs to be worked out, visual asthetics alone have me hooked on roebeets rom. Not to mention it surprisingly runs very well vs. coming from vegan rc1. I have live wallpaper going, of course oc-ed, and I can still play game any for the most part with little to no lag. The menu/context menu layout for adding/changing wallpaper, active/recent apps menu, default keyboard, and default browser ease of use are my main reasons for sticking with it. If you want a rom with minute issues, this one is obviosly not for you. But if you can sacrifice a random reboot every other day and don't watch youtube all the time like me, BOS is a keeper and will only get better.
Edit: I should also note that my gtab is mostly for recreational use. A friend of a friend bought it bout a month ago now, tried doing something without proper knowledge, soft-bricked it, gave it to my friend who in turn gave it to me while the original owner bought an Ipad a week later. So I dont find it appropriate to use the term 'daily driver' since I see it as a very fun toy currently so my opinion on ROMs should include this.
In all honesty, I would have been mad if I hadn't found such a good modding community for this device. The stock is terrible.
So i have the BoS alpha installed , it runs very smooth - the only real FC come from open-gl not being available yet, well that and the apps that arent compatible with the nvidia kernel in general... i hope this helps a bit, if not please let me know exactly what apps your planning on using, and ill test them and post a video on youtube for you to see how well they run. my channel on youtube is ( youtube.com/itsnothowyoudie ) the latest video shows the homescreen and a couple apps including the scrolling gmail, which btw is great.
ps. one thing that has annoyed me, not being able to resize the widgets (;
I am also running Century Eyes. It offers the tablet feel, with improved resolution over all other Froyo ROMs. The resolution and the scrollable widgets are the best of Honeycomb, but I need Hardware Acceleration for flash. I use the streaming TV and movie apps, and it is required that you have flash enabled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb-C27sIuX0&feature=player_embedded#t=0s
I am running the Evervol GB ROM with the Honeycomb 3D-SBicons theme and it looks so much like HC that you wouldn't believe it. Especially when using Launcher Pro with scrollable widgets. Amazing! Plus, almost everything works (flash, camera, both sd cards, usb to pc, etc.).
I also like honeycombs browser which syncs my bookmarks with the chrome browser. Been waiting for android to do this, I have tons of bookmarks on my computer so this helps a lot. The new 4.1 version of bottle of smoke is very smooth and works very well for me.
I think I'll wait until one of the Honeycomb ROMs hits final release. I need it to be able to do everything I can currently do in froyo before switching (open GL, flash, video playback, etc...)
Good ROM
Sidriel said:
I went to the Century Eyes Rom by roebeet, and I'm loving it. It gives me the tablet feel with no bugs. I do miss the market and Youtube apps from honeycomb though.
(Century Eyes = Notion Ink Adam's EdenUI)
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Refering to battery, the best rom i think, i dont like the hidding status bar and i couldnt use the long search whit other programs, I like this rom so much i hope it could be fixed!!
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Besides the obvious access to particular Honeycomb apps, what other benefits does Honeycomb offer on our G-Tabs?
I ask because it seems like some people prefer Honeycombs GUI but I also noticed that one is able to theme their tablets to look like Honeycomb while staying on a non-Honeycomb based ROM.
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To answer the OPs post: Froyo gave genuine performance improvements and features i.e. batterly life, reduced sluggishness, Flash (which had limited support on earlier Android IIRC), but AFAIK Honeycomb gives mostly UI improvements -scrollable widgets, etc. However, some of those 'UI improvements' are also significant improvements in how the tablet is used as well as how it looks (i.e. UI = user INTERFACE and not just how the home screen looks).
See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Honeycomb on gTab has some tradeoffs, but if you want to keep all the Froyo functionality you can try different launchers on any ROM, although I'm sure Froyo launchers have limitations when compared to the Honeycomb launchers. I am currently using VTL launcher on Vegan 5.1.1 (Froyo), I would not call it a 'Honeycomb Replacement' but the ROM (Vegan 5.1.1) is way better than the stock ROM and the launcher (VTL) is way better than the stock launcher, and everything that I need still works, including camera, keyboard, video, and PvZ.
For ideas on setting up your launcher/home screen see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=862030
Recommend Honeycomb FlashBack or GtabComb,
You basically won't have camera functionality and some Flash won't work in browser. Most Games will work, the cool 3d ones at least.
Just give it a try, its as easy double clicking the nvflash exe
I switched back from GTABcomb to cm7 because there is one particular app didnt support. The back support is not that good. On the good side, you have everything mention here by other members but flash is only playable through opera browser and no HW acc. The sound is louder too on HC and screen more responsive.
I'm running FB 5.5. Visually, it is more satisfying than GB or Froyo.
Gmail widget and app handles email better.
Stock Calendar app and calender widget is better as well.
YouTube and Market HC is visually better as well.
Flash works in browser opera and stock.
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I'm running FB 5.5. Visually, it is more satisfying than GB or Froyo.
Gmail widget and app handles email better.
Stock Calendar app and calender widget is better as well.
YouTube and Market HC is visually better as well.
Flash works in browser opera and stock.
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Not to mention the Netflix 1.3 apk works perfectly now, all youtube vids play in full screen, No sleep of death, etc. TV.com acts weird and runs small like it's on a phone but I may play around with different versions. At this point the only thing I'm really missing is the camera. To be honest I think I only want it because I can't have it. I'd probably go 6 months without using it if it worked. I did notice that FB 5.5 runs a bit slower than GTABComb 3.2. I got 3345 quad score on GTABComb with the built in OC script where I get about 2450 with SetCPU at 1400mhz on FB 5.5. Overall I feel like both of these HC roms have evolved to a point where the leary should jump in and give them a shot. You won't be missing much and what you gain is seeing your tablet run visually the way it was meant to.
Currently running GTabComb 3.2 and it's pretty good. Stable, quick. Been considering Illuminate as well. I will say HC is such a slicker interface over Froyo or GB. I definitely would like to stick with HC now that I've played with it.
I have xperia T with locked bootloader, so i can only try stock based roms. I was very satisfied with the phone, but not any more. I changed many roms,but with every rom, after about a month of usage phone starts to be be laggy, and slow. Especially the browser. It takes ages to load a page. Also typing seems to get laggy. After I flash different rom, everything gets to normal again. Does anyone have the same scenario, as. I am? Could something be done to speed up the phone?
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Maybe you have many apps?
Maybe you have mang apps that runs in the background?
Maybe your phone is broken?
You could install some tweaks such as V6 Supercharger.
You could clear cache once a while.
You could let your phone rest.
For me, I don't face this problem.
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I do have many apps. I clear cache once in a while, and phone feels better when i do that. But i never shut down or reset. I'll try to do that and see how it performs.
Thanks for your answer.
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I guess you don't have any special "issue" with your phone.
Every single phone lags - period. Sooner or later, and this or that moment, it lags. To be honest, I'm ok with that for quite some time. Every app is getting more hungry with every new version, and when you're installing and updating apps on daily pattern, it simply becomes too heavy for system resources to handle. For example, if you do a factory reset now on your T/TX, and if you're sticking with stock rom, there is 300MBs of updates right after first boot. I was shocked when I saw that my system memory jumped from 270MBs of usage after first boot, to 530MBs just after system apps updates...
Android lag tendencies are old story now. Google did not solve this yet, and project butter didn't make any notable changes regarding UI lag. Yet, I would't change it for iOS or WP for a whole world.
There for there will be trim support in android 4.3
It's like your windows based pc, after a while it will get slow. And so are android phones.
- Keep the least number of apps possible on the phone
- Remove widgets you don't really need
- Chose the smaller sized app with the humbler memory foot print, if there are alternatives
- Trim occasionally as what my predecessor mentioned, there are trim apps out there, like Lagfix
- Reboot once a day.
Sounds profane, I know.
i've tried many custom roms with LBL but never had this problem.
all i do is restart the phone once a week or two weeks..
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I guess you don't have any special "issue" with your phone.
Every single phone lags - period. Sooner or later, and this or that moment, it lags. To be honest, I'm ok with that for quite some time. Every app is getting more hungry with every new version, and when you're installing and updating apps on daily pattern, it simply becomes too heavy for system resources to handle. For example, if you do a factory reset now on your T/TX, and if you're sticking with stock rom, there is 300MBs of updates right after first boot. I was shocked when I saw that my system memory jumped from 270MBs of usage after first boot, to 530MBs just after system apps updates...
Android lag tendencies are old story now. Google did not solve this yet, and project butter didn't make any notable changes regarding UI lag. Yet, I would't change it for iOS or WP for a whole world.
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I was considering to chnage my phone, and go for S4, or HTC ONE, but because of those "Android lag tendencies", after a month of not reseting or cleaning the cache, they should lag olso. Am I right? I'm not familiar with WP or IOS. Do they have lag tendencies also ?
Andrija231 said:
I was considering to chnage my phone, and go for S4, or HTC ONE, but because of those "Android lag tendencies", after a month of not reseting or cleaning the cache, they should lag olso. Am I right? I'm not familiar with WP or IOS. Do they have lag tendencies also ?
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Well, you will probably get a bit snappier performance with two mentioned phones, but believe me, if anybody tell you their phones are not lagging at all, like never ever, they lie. I played with S4, and I played with HTC One, and these also have glitches from time to time.
Regarding iOS and WP, I never personaly used any of those, but I played a lot with that phones, as my friends are having them. iOS is generally considered to have quite fluid interface, but that's because iOS is totally different system and is handling user interface with different priorities. And honestly, it is fluid. Especially since iPhone 4... But on the other side, it is such a limited system, that I never ever considered switching to it. WP is also quite fluid, but again, that giant-squares interface is very dull to me, and WP ecosystem is still far behind Android.
Point is, I'm not willing to change Android for some other weaker system, just for the sake of a snappier and more fluid interface...
But that's just me. Maybe somebody else is having different priorities.
Thanks for the honest answer. I can live with the reset from time to time. I also don't consider changing Android for iOS or Windows because Android has so many features over them. I hope in the future Google will manage to eliminate that lag.
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Andrija231 said:
I hope in the future Google will manage to eliminate that lag.
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We all do... Practically, the only argument iOS and WP users are having, is that magic word "lag".
Other than that, Android is unbeatable in all other areas.
Big colourful icons, multi-function widgets, and many other eye candy functions use system resources without delivering a real value for the user. Windows has plump tiles, and the app drawer is just a simple list of apps. Just as examples. My wifes windows phone has 2/3 of the hardware power, but it worked fluid any time.
Change the icons to simple symbols, make a vertical scroll app drawer with tiny icons, remove widgets, use the app drawer to access apps. And so on. It will bring you leaps forward in terms of functionality.
Most will say that unused memory is wasted memory. I believe on the long run it's better apps have a proper exit button, and clear themselves from memory when done.
Hello people.
I recently bought an xperia z1. A very nice phone which works really well, except for a few things. Hence this topic.
I experience good battery life and quite fast loading of apps etc, but i notice that scrolling inside some apps goes stuttery and laggy. Something i didn't expect from a phone with this kinda hardware. Ecspecially phonebook, call log and gmail have problems with this, just like facebook for example.
Now the questions.
Is this a thing that will be fixed in a future firmware release? And if i install a custom rom using a something like doomkernel, will this issue be better?
It really bothers me somehow, and i don't mind unlocking the bootloader to fix this issue. But if i'm not sure that it will fix this stutter and lag, i think it might not be worth it getting problems etc with warranty.
Thanks in advance for answering
Yes, it can be improved. There is not fix on that and no one can said perfectly what is related too. I got some light laggy launcher but i live with that as it do more stuff than the stock one.
So, if you find an application laggy is not the phone, is the application it self which is badly coded and don't working correctly as it should.
I give you an example, I have Virtua Tennis purchased long time ago, V2.0, then updates after updates the game become laggy as hell, what that mean, that mean updates are ment to improve the application but if they are bad coded they will give you laggy issues, I reverted to v2.0.
At the end I don't think a Firmware will solve all this problems but you can be sure, you will get improvements installing Custom Roms or Custom Kernels which are ment to performing your device.
I don't saying it is worth to unlock bootloader, check also the applications which working in background, all the time they are the main reason for laggy phone as they run and eat ram and CPU.
You have to spend time flashing some latest FW and find the most stable combination.
eclyptos said:
Yes, it can be improved. There is not fix on that and no one can said perfectly what is related too. I got some light laggy launcher but i live with that as it do more stuff than the stock one.
So, if you find an application laggy is not the phone, is the application it self which is badly coded and don't working correctly as it should.
I give you an example, I have Virtua Tennis purchased long time ago, V2.0, then updates after updates the game become laggy as hell, what that mean, that mean updates are ment to improve the application but if they are bad coded they will give you laggy issues, I reverted to v2.0.
At the end I don't think a Firmware will solve all this problems but you can be sure, you will get improvements installing Custom Roms or Custom Kernels which are ment to performing your device.
I don't saying it is worth to unlock bootloader, check also the applications which working in background, all the time they are the main reason for laggy phone as they run and eat ram and CPU.
You have to spend time flashing some latest FW and find the most stable combination.
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Thanks for the quick answer!
And what you're saying about the background apps eating ram and cpu, i was thinking the same thing. I notice the lag is random, sometimes it goes quite fluent and sometimes its like i'm working with a phone that can't handle the os because of low specs. Really weird. Is there any tool that gives detailed insight into these background apps and stuff?
The main thing bothering me is the phone/phonebook/call log app which is delivered from sony itself. It's just text, and even that makes the scrolling in that app very stuttery. While i get updates for apps like album, and the scrolling inside that app goes smooth as silk. Just like scrolling within chrome (although it sometimes hangs for a very short moment).
And btw. rooting and deodexing without unlocking the bootloader, will that help too? I guess there's tools that make better performance too then. Or is working with unlocked bootloader better?
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Is there any tool that gives detailed insight into these background apps and stuff?
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Yes, there is an application which check what application wake up your phone or running when the phone is in sleep or even when it should be off but is not. At the moment I don't remember that application as I never used that one, but I know there is as it was mentioned many times for the same reason and battery drain.
saintgein said:
And btw. rooting and deodexing without unlocking the bootloader, will that help too? I guess there's tools that make better performance too then. Or is working with unlocked bootloader better?
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Root your phone will definitely help in many ways as many Applications to check your system need Root access, and also if you find an system app that cause your issues and uninstalling is necessary then Root is needed too. Deodexing can improve the customization as it meant for it but is not for performance, so is just up to you if you want to do it or not. There is no tool which will improve performance on your phone, my personal opinion they are all junk application, like the kind of System cleaner. Android is not Windows.
Rooting and Deodexing can be done without Unlocking Bootloader. Unlocking Bootloader is for flash Custom Kernels only. You still can flash Custom Roms based on Stock Kernels.
I'm really thinking of doing that right now. Also because of scrolling cache, which i think might be the cause for the issue i'm having trouble with.
Do you know something about it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2762732
saintgein said:
I'm really thinking of doing that right now. Also because of scrolling cache, which i think might be the cause for the issue i'm having trouble with.
Do you know something about it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2762732
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Not really but that kind of stuff it can not be done without Root, I guess.
Where did you find the information about it?
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Not really but that kind of stuff it can not be done without Root, I guess.
Where did you find the information about it?
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I noticed that custom roms like romaur and ihackers included that mod. Then i looked it up on google and found some articles which said that many apps have a bad way of handling that cache. I also don't have any experience with other firmwares than the unrooted 4.4.2. Hence my question.
Now i'm also thinking that sony puts alot of effort into optimizing apps for this purpose with new devices, maybe that's why i hear that the 4.2.2 experiences are much better than the newest 4.4.2. But that can also be a bit negative thinking, since i still got hope that future firmwares will make scrolling through call log/phonebook or gmail better.
Although on my old xperia s i noticed the same. With the 4.1 firmware installed, the facebook app scrolled alot better then the with the updates that came after it. Just like stock browser always been the best scroller. Unlike chrome and firefox for example. On my z1 chrome clearly is the best scroller btw, just hangs sometimes. But then it's on long facebook pages etc. Otherwise its very fluent.