hi,
after reading so many post on rooting and secure kernels I am still unsure if I lose root, if I flash abyss kernel after beeing rooted (Super Su Busybox).
As I want to do back ups as well as restores I think I need a secure Kernel after rooting. (I am on stock ICS LPF rooted).
Again I am not installing any MOD or ROMS just a rooted Stock ICS.
RbbCHan said:
hi,
after reading so many post on rooting and secure kernels I am still unsure if I lose root, if I flash abyss kernel after beeing rooted (Super Su Busybox).
As I want to do back ups as well as restores I think I need a secure Kernel after rooting. (I am on stock ICS LPF rooted).
Again I am not installing any MOD or ROMS just a rooted Stock ICS.
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No you will not lose root if you flash abyss kernel.
RbbCHan said:
hi,
after reading so many post on rooting and secure kernels I am still unsure if I lose root, if I flash abyss kernel after beeing rooted (Super Su Busybox).
As I want to do back ups as well as restores I think I need a secure Kernel after rooting. (I am on stock ICS LPF rooted).
Again I am not installing any MOD or ROMS just a rooted Stock ICS.
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Do not use abyss as safe kernel for your ics it will not boot up. Use speedmod k3-6 or goku as a safe kernel. Use abyss only for wiping purposes and then flash a custom rom.
thx, that's important info. will try to find those kernels.
If you do have a link just in your hands would be nice if you could copy it for me.
TIA for your efforts
RC
jonpaslim said:
Do not use abyss as safe kernel for your ics it will not boot up. Use speedmod k3-6 or goku as a safe kernel. Use abyss only for wiping purposes and then flash a custom rom.
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Do you mean to use only stock kernel and use abyss only when trying to install any custom ROMs. Is it not possible to use CWM instead of abyss kernel to flash the custom rom. is abyss kernel is just another method to root the note?
Hi,
I think I have problem here...
I have official ICS 4.0.3 (XXLQ2) and CF-Root,
I just flashed with abyss kernel and phone is not booting....
How can I flash to another kernel? I tried Volume down, Power and home button, but I got in download mode...
and also, which is safe kernel to use?
I flashed CF-root kernel by ODIN and now it boots normally
Basically Abyss is kernel for GB. That is the reason why every one advise when ICS rom, if you flash Abyss, do not leave CWM but reboot (not device) but the recovery. and after wiping flash the custom ICS immediately. I suggest you go back to GB and upgrade to ICS officially, and get rooted. (but remember ICS stock ROMs are not safe for backup, specially restoring, since you mentioned backups)
giokiborg said:
Hi,
I think I have problem here...
I have official ICS 4.0.3 (XXLQ2) and CF-Root,
I just flashed with abyss kernel and phone is not booting....
How can I flash to another kernel? I tried Volume down, Power and home button, but I got in download mode...
and also, which is safe kernel to use?
I flashed CF-root kernel by ODIN and now it boots normally
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Use speedmod k3-6 for safe ics custom kernel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673072
Here is goku kernel for ics. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710937
Here is another ics kernel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749863
Download any ics rom u like,put in into external,after abyss full wipe,then install it from ex.sd.
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Well, thanks for the various info, however, my problem is still not solved.
Just to avoid misunderstandings I say it again: I do not want to install a custom kernel or so. Just keep my stock ICS rooted. But.... of course I would like to have the possibility to make backups and restore. As this involves the risk of bricking my device, I want to install a Kernel, which is at least considered to be safe ( I know no guarantee at all).
So the advice from "Jonpaslim" seems to be the answer.
this brings me to another problem........ I am in China, so I can't download from File-sharing services, as they are blocked. i can download from drop box, box or any other server also from xda......but I couldn't find a usable link for the k3-6 or Goku. those files don't seem to be so big ones. I wonder, if it may be possible for s.o. here to upload to a private cloud like dropbox or box or sugar sync etc.. and give me the download link.
I thank you for all your efforts in advance
greetings from China
jonpaslim said:
Use speedmod k3-6 for safe ics custom kernel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673072
Here is goku kernel for ics. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710937
Here is another ics kernel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749863
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Thanks for reply, I already flashed k3-6
And I like it,
But, to be sure, is it prooved to be safe? I mean recovery, factory reset and the wipe is conformed to be safe? Or still use abyss kernel for CWM and wipe?
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giokiborg said:
Thanks for reply, I already flashed k3-6
And I like it,
But, to be sure, is it prooved to be safe? I mean recovery, factory reset and the wipe is conformed to be safe? Or still use abyss kernel for CWM and wipe?
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Sir u need to flash abyys just for full wipe not for flashing anything from cwm or cache partition and dalvik cache wipe...
Flash abyys just if u wanna make full wipe...
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Sir u need to flash abyys just for full wipe not for flashing anything from cwm or cache partition and dalvik cache wipe...
Flash abyys just if u wanna make full wipe...
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Thanks for information,
but as I read SpeedMod kernel is safe for wiping too, but for extra safety I will use abyss kernel
giokiborg said:
Thanks for reply, I already flashed k3-6
And I like it,
But, to be sure, is it prooved to be safe? I mean recovery, factory reset and the wipe is conformed to be safe? Or still use abyss kernel for CWM and wipe?
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This all i can say about the safety of speedmod, never i once read that somebody brick their phone by wiping on speedmod. I trust speedmod myself.
little help
guys one small but important help
i'm going to buy note in just few days probably tomrw
i will buy it on gb version
so what i want to know exactly
1. if i root the gb version with chainfire method of rooting (is it safe to go and keep the device brick bug free) or any other method should i follow
2. if i want to flash any of ics version first i have to flash abysskernel is it ok (means is it brick proof method)
3.abyss kernel is best for upgrade and downgrade and to do nandriod backup with full wipe and it does not brick the device, as much i have read about all this thing, is my knowledge about note to upgrade, downgrade is ok
4.after upgrading to any ics custom rom from gb version i have to keep rom on speedmod kernel is it totaly safe method, and in future if i want to downgrade from ics to gb again i have to flash abyss or same can be done by speedmod
5.speedmod kernel is safe to do full wipe or to flash any modification not the rom
or lastly should i keep my device on gb version without root and wait for expert dev or team samsung to provide us with best solution to keep our device bug free
plz guys appropriate answer will be appreciated
thanks in advance
tonyking123 said:
guys one small but important help
i'm going to buy note in just few days probably tomrw
i will buy it on gb version
so what i want to know exactly
1. if i root the gb version with chainfire method of rooting (is it safe to go and keep the device brick bug free) or any other method should i follow
2. if i want to flash any of ics version first i have to flash abysskernel is it ok (means is it brick proof method)
3.abyss kernel is best for upgrade and downgrade and to do nandriod backup with full wipe and it does not brick the device, as much i have read about all this thing, is my knowledge about note to upgrade, downgrade is ok
4.after upgrading to any ics custom rom from gb version i have to keep rom on speedmod kernel is it totaly safe method, and in future if i want to downgrade from ics to gb again i have to flash abyss or same can be done by speedmod
5.speedmod kernel is safe to do full wipe or to flash any modification not the rom
or lastly should i keep my device on gb version without root and wait for expert dev or team samsung to provide us with best solution to keep our device bug free
plz guys appropriate answer will be appreciated
thanks in advance
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1. GB ROM,s are safe,
2. If you are upgrading from GB, you don't need abyss kernel, use it own kernel for wiping
3. You are right, abyss kernel is safest, because its a GB ketnel with its own CWM, but note, abyss does not boots ICS
4. Speedmod kernel is safe, but for extra safety use abyss kernel for up/down grading
5. It shoud be safe because buggy feature is disabled, but still I can not find solid confirmation, that hardbrik does not happened on this kernel after multiple .wipe and cache clearing, but, also, I didn't heard that hardbrik happened, so i will use abyss kernel for wiping before solid confirmation, that speedmod kernel is safe
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giokiborg said:
1. GB ROM,s are safe,
2. If you are upgrading from GB, you don't need abyss kernel, use it own kernel for wiping
3. You are right, abyss kernel is safest, because its a GB ketnel with its own CWM, but note, abyss does not boots ICS
4. Speedmod kernel is safe, but for extra safety use abyss kernel for up/down grading
5. It shoud be safe because buggy feature is disabled, but still I can not find solid confirmation, that hardbrik does not happened on this kernel after multiple .wipe and cache clearing, but, also, I didn't heard that hardbrik happened, so i will use abyss kernel for wiping before solid confirmation, that speedmod kernel is safe
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thanks bro
i think i should keep it on gb
as i know and of course with your help i can upgrade my device but if i forgot by chance any important step i can brick my device as i have habit of upgrading b'coz i was having s2 before so its not so easy for me to stop upgrading note and i can brick it easily too
so gb with or without root is ok with me till i get appropriate solution of brickbug
thnaks for your help ma8
tonyking123 said:
thanks bro
i think i should keep it on gb
as i know and of course with your help i can upgrade my device but if i forgot by chance any important step i can brick my device as i have habit of upgrading b'coz i was having s2 before so its not so easy for me to stop upgrading note and i can brick it easily too
so gb with or without root is ok with me till i get appropriate solution of brickbug
thnaks for your help ma8
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You welcome,
You can upgrade from GB to ISC with samsung Kies,(as i did) it should be safe, anyway, if something goes wrong, you still have valid warranty.
or, you can use abyss kernel and manually upgrade from cwm. (You can find thread, where all stock ICS rom's are listed,
Also, there are a lot of step-by-step instructions on this forum or you can find also video toutorial on youtube or rootgalaxynote.com, just in case, not to forget anything)
I recomend upgrade to ICS, it's way batter than GB.
But after upgrade, you have to move to safe kernel, like speedmod, (already there are several safe roms for ics for example, last one:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749863)
There are also methods to flush to safe kernel and root without having binary count increased.
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giokiborg said:
You welcome,
You can upgrade from GB to ISC with samsung Kies,(as i did) it should be safe, anyway, if something goes wrong, you still have valid warranty.
or, you can use abyss kernel and manually upgrade from cwm. (You can find thread, where all stock ICS rom's are listed,
Also, there are a lot of step-by-step instructions on this forum or you can find also video toutorial on youtube or rootgalaxynote.com, just in case, not to forget anything)
I recomend upgrade to ICS, it's way batter than GB.
But after upgrade, you have to move to safe kernel, like speedmod, (already there are several safe roms for ics for example, last one:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749863)
There are also methods to flush to safe kernel and root without having binary count increased.
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i also love ics far best than gb
my s2 was on ics i never went to gb
i will try to upgrade in safer way
thanks for ur help bro
one thing more did your note have some prob on screen before or after upgrading to ics prob like pixelation, dark image, black or any other dot of different color
as i make my mind to purchase it some new problem stand in front of me and stopped me to buy it
tonyking123 said:
i also love ics far best than gb
my s2 was on ics i never went to gb
i will try to upgrade in safer way
thanks for ur help bro
one thing more did your note have some prob on screen before or after upgrading to ics prob like pixelation, dark image, black or any other dot of different color
as i make my mind to purchase it some new problem stand in front of me and stopped me to buy it
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:good:
I noticed nothing you mentioned, screen is fine, black and other colors are also fine (at least as i can judge)
Also, I'll recomend GL_NOTECORE, Flash it with ODIN immediately after upgrade to official ICS, you will get root, CWM and MMC_CAP_ERASE disabled, also many extra tweaks and doubled 2D/3D performance
Dears
when you flash any new rom you are taking a risk to cause EMMC Bricke, so the solution for this is before you flash any rom you have to keep a copy of Abyss Note kernel on your external memory card, then restart your phone in recovery mod and flash the kernel after that make reboot in recovery mod again then follow the new rom flash instructions
Note:
1- when you flash the Abyss Note kernel you have to be sure that really you want to flash a new rom other wise your phone it will not work until you flash the new rom
2- no need to flash this kernel if you need only to update your currant rom
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westal79 said:
Dears
when you flash any new rom you are taking a risk to cause EMMC Bricke, so the solution for this is before you flash any rom you have to keep a copy of Abyss Note kernel on your external memory card, then restart your phone in recovery mod and flash the kernel after that make reboot in recovery mod again then follow the new rom flash instructions
Note:
1- when you flash the Abyss Note kernel you have to be sure that really you want to flash a new rom other wise your phone it will not work until you flash the new rom
2- no need to flash this kernel if you need only to update your currant rom
Thanks for rootgalaxynote.com
Please if you like my post press thanks
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This is only applicable to stock ics roms and custom roms using stock ics kernel (don't think there are any anymore). Emmc is not triggered by flashing but by wiping which is done in menu, dialler, recovery, by changing csc or flashing a full wipe ics rom.
All gb kernels are safe from emmc, abyss is a gb kernel, so the same goes for any gb kernel.
Just to clarify.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation and clarification:fingers-crossed:
I want to flash LQ2 over itself to stop root as unrooting isn't making the fact it has previously been rooted to the Sky Go app. Can I just flash LQ2 using Odin mobile and not risk the brick bug?
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gregianos said:
I want to flash LQ2 over itself to stop root as unrooting isn't making the fact it has previously been rooted to the Sky Go app. Can I just flash LQ2 using Odin mobile and not risk the brick bug?
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Use CWM to flash zips.
Use pc odin to flash tar files... Just wipe cache and flash it..
Using jbroid kernel script before flashing is perfect in CWM.
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is new 4.0.4 safe to wipe? is the kernel safe?
arinsms said:
is new 4.0.4 safe to wipe? is the kernel safe?
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Depends on the kernel..Don't wipe with stock kernels which comes from Samsung officially...Flash a safe kernel first then Do wipes...
so flashing to the abyss is the safest way to upgrade then....great
mafioso345 said:
so flashing to the abyss is the safest way to upgrade then....great
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Yes. Of course...
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Good Stuff
Good one :good:
im on criseklo rom and on notecore 10.6 kernel, and i did this without uaing a bloody pc nor a wifi, i wanna try cm9 since its highly customizable, is there any possibility i can revert to gb rom and kernel to flash cm9 roms without a pc,
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As you are on a safe kernel just download cm9 and gapps put it into your sd card, reboot to recovery (cwn) wipe data/cache /dalvik cache flash cm9, then go to advanced options and reboot recovery once rebooted flash gapps and reboot system.. That's it no need to go back to gb
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hackerpoako said:
im on criseklo rom and on notecore 10.6 kernel, and i did this without uaing a bloody pc nor a wifi, i wanna try cm9 since its highly customizable, is there any possibility i can revert to gb rom and kernel to flash cm9 roms without a pc,
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You can use Mobile ODIN Pro for the same. It does the job and doesn't cause Triangle on boot and doesn't cause count.
Just download GB Rom from dr ketans thread or www.sammobile.com and put it in your SD Card.
Open Mobile Odin.
Select the file in the column Open the file.
And Start Flashing. Remember to check for md5 checksum before flashing if it asks and Wipe Dalvik/Cache.
Done
Now you have Stock GB Rom on your Note.
Or
You can use Abyss Redpill Recovery Original Logo.(Reboot into CWM and flash Abyss 4.2)
Reboot Recovery
Now Full Wipe.
Flash cm9
Flash Gapps
Reboot System
msedek said:
As you are on a safe kernel just download cm9 and gapps put it into your sd card, reboot to recovery (cwn) wipe data/cache /dalvik cache flash cm9, then go to advanced options and reboot recovery once rebooted flash gapps and reboot system.. That's it no need to go back to gb
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@sahilaroa
yow ia doing this method ok?
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hackerpoako said:
@sahilaroa
yow ia doing this method ok?
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Since you are on Custom ICS Rom its safe to wipe but Using Abyss 4.2 is the best way to install cm9. I have installed cm9 from safe kernel with ICS but does not recommend you as this will mess up (probably) .
Read if this can help you
For switching your existing ROM to GB ROM
here some modification
Download Prerooted ROM
and flash using Movile odin Pro
Here is guide how to use Mobile odin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1816158
Note : You need not to change kernel in step mentioned above guide
Go directly from where you are without doing anything.
At end you will have Rooted GB ROM + CWM without using PC Odin.
Guys is ok now to flash CM9 while in ics??? The last time i heard its dangerous.
jonpaslim said:
Guys is ok now to flash CM9 while in ics??? The last time i heard its dangerous.
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It is still dangerous in that it's a sure brick. Need to install gb kernel with cwm to perform cm flashes, goes for cm10 also.
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We all know that full wipe in recovery or factory reset in setting can brick our Note, so is the only way to perform full wipe is to re-flash the ROM?
Or it can be done as below?
Root and flash cwm recovery using custom kernel through odin
Remove yellow triangle using triangle way
Boot in cwm recovery
Flash Abyss kernel
Reboot in recovery
Perform full wipe
Flash custom Kernel like Notecore, Speedmod or CF Root
Reboot.
people who prefer stock kernel can then flash it using odin.
First thing this is for stock ICS ROM.
I have removed some extra steps you have mentioned (which is not necessary)
You can go this way.
Root and flash cwm recovery using custom kernel (notecore/speedmod)through odin
Remove yellow triangle using triangle way
Boot in cwm recovery
Reboot in recovery
Perform full wipe
people who prefer stock kernel can then flash it using odin.
Who wants to keep root, flash stock ROM using Mobile odin
dr.ketan said:
First thing this is for stock ICS ROM.
I have removed some extra steps you have mentioned (which is not necessary)
You can go this way.
Root and flash cwm recovery using custom kernel (notecore/speedmod)through odin
Remove yellow triangle using triangle way
Boot in cwm recovery
Reboot in recovery
Perform full wipe
people who prefer stock kernel can then flash it using odin.
Who wants to keep root, flash stock ROM using Mobile odin
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That's great, so you mean custom kernel are now 100% safe? and yes it is for stock ICS (Sorry!!), Thanks for your quick reply!!
Hi dr.ketan Please give me custom kernel list like notecore/speedmod and other for stock ICS ROM ,
thanks
kishorparmar said:
Hi dr.ketan Please give me custom kernel list like notecore/speedmod and other for stock ICS ROM ,
thanks
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Check "toolbox" in Dr.ketan's signature, you will find all links in that thread.
jeetu1981 said:
Check "toolbox" in Dr.ketan's signature, you will find all links in that thread.
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thanks...bro
No prob.
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jeetu1981 said:
That's great, so you mean custom kernel are now 100% safe? and yes it is for stock ICS (Sorry!!), Thanks for your quick reply!!
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Notecore having double security,its recovery as well kernel both is emmc erase cap disabled. Though i hav no idea about other bcoz i m using notecore.
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Hi! So I've been trying to flash my phone back to GB Rom from my..I think its my stock ICS rom? (4.0.2) because I've rooted it already but haven't done anything else to it. I want to update it to CM 10.1 but I know it requires me to go back to GB before I can try to flash it to CM 10.1
I wasn't sure if I was able to flash my phone back down to GB Rom because I've been looking at threads.. and they said that doing that from an unsafe kernal (stock ICS) may result in a brick???
>< My Kernel Verison: N7000DXLP9-CL551076.
Not sure what to do. @[email protected]
Thanks for the help everyone
If you install a safe kernel on ICS, then you don't need to downgrade to GB. You can directly flash cm rom using Cwm.
On your ics rom you could install speedmod or hydracore kernel using mobile odin (as you said it's rooted) and boot into cwm, do the wipes and install cm rom.
nokiamodeln91 said:
If you install a safe kernel on ICS, then you don't need to downgrade to GB. You can directly flash cm rom using Cwm.
On your ics rom you could install speedmod or hydracore kernel using mobile odin (as you said it's rooted) and boot into cwm, do the wipes and install cm rom.
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Thanks for the response!! However.. I was reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796217
And it said if I flash from stock ICS... either way..roms based on ICS- it'll result in a brick? Wouldn't it be better for me to flash to GB first?
If you flash a safe kernel, it won't matter. But if GB is the way you want to go, it's safe too.
nokiamodeln91 said:
If you flash a safe kernel, it won't matter. But if GB is the way you want to go, it's safe too.
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^Oh really? >< I just really don't want my phone to be bricked is all..because I did see the disclaimer on that thread. If I put a safe kernel on- would I still be on stock ICS?
I'm not even truly sure how to flash it back to GB because I'm not sure which GB rom to go to
Thanks
Forget crap about going back to GB and paranoic flashing instructions. Flash a PhilZ kernel (any zip version) from stock ICS, boot into new recovery, make a backup, do wipes and flash ROM. That's it.
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Thanks a lot for everyone's help. I did flash speed mod kernel and then just flashed it to CM 10.1 and it works perfectly.
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