[Q] Can i use "Root Explorer" instead "Flash via CWM" - Samsung Galaxy Mini

Flashing new ROM use CWM!
But some update (~ 3-4MB), can i use Root Explorer to copy and replace old file (in "app", "system => lib",...)?
Hate flash must wipe all!
Is replace file is safer than flash ? (flash not wipe cause bootlop)!

xenv1 said:
Flashing new ROM use CWM!
But some update (~ 3-4MB), can i use Root Explorer to copy and replace old file (in "app", "system => lib",...)?
Hate flash must wipe all!
Is replace file is safer than flash ? (flash not wipe cause bootlop)!
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Yeah you can do it via root explorer but, why u told flash cause bootloop?? if u flash a Rom u MUST wipe data.. but if it's only a patch (like beats audio) you don't

What do the root explorer show is ROM or internal memory?
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No need to wipe always.. if the update is small, just flash it without wipe. You can also wipe cache if needed.
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What different between ROM and internal memory?
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xenv1 said:
What different between ROM and internal memory?
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Rom: system rom like folders system, bin etc..
Internal: your apps data that are stored in internal memory of phone
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suppose you are copying some files and there are some critical file being replaced and while copying mobile restart and copying was not done then there are chance of bootloop
in some update packages permission commands are written which cannot be done by just copying (an example of this is while updating su binary with superuser app it shows the progress, in somewhere there it is written that changing permission of file, and if you do not do this and just copy the su binary to /system/xbin you will loose your root access
odexed app cannot be installed just by copying they need to be flashed
so flashing is better than copying

always use cwm that is safer than copyng and replacing files or folders

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Creating and un-flashing a zip file

Hi. Is it possible to unflash a zip that can't delete all the file that I flash from the zip?
And can I flash a zip that have apps that is going to be installed into the SD card and not the system?
Help please
no you cannot unflash a zip but you can delete the content of the zip directly from the mobile by going to /system and deleting those files
app 2 zip:- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1567614
app2zip will create a flashable zip of your installed apps but cannot install them on sdcard
RayQXX said:
Hi. Is it possible to unflash a zip that can't delete all the file that I flash from the zip?
And can I flash a zip that have apps that is going to be installed into the SD card and not the system?
Help please
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The only way to unflash a zip is by reflashing your ROM and about creating zips there are a few tutorials about that in XDA so make a search.
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hasman1999 said:
The only way to unflash a zip is by reflashing your ROM and about creating zips there are a few tutorials about that in XDA so make a search.
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I meant by making a zip file that can install all the apks into the sdcard as a normal app. I already know how to create a flash zip and i only can flash apks into my system/app/.
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Try my backup root the basic concept is the same it creates zips of the apks as backup but unfortunately you can restore it only via my backup root.
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[Q] How to make a rom backup (from rom manager) to become a flashable version of CWM?

I've just flash a rom (download from xda, which is in *.zip format JB4.12) by CWM to my note 1, successfully.
Now I've just backup the rom, with some apps and data, by rom manager. However, the backup come with several files include a *.img instead of a zip file.
Anybody know, how can I make these files to become one *zip file, which I can flash it to the system and make it become factory default??
Please help...
garytako said:
I've just flash a rom (download from xda, which is in *.zip format JB4.12) by CWM to my note 1, successfully.
Now I've just backup the rom, with some apps and data, by rom manager. However, the backup come with several files include a *.img instead of a zip file.
Anybody know, how can I make these files to become one *zip file, which I can flash it to the system and make it become factory default??
Please help...
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I would suggest you taking a nandroid using CWM recovery..its easy to backup & restore..about your question regarding rom manager, may be you can put all the .img files into 1 .zip file, but i really don't know if it will make a flashable rom..
simply say, how to backup thwart whole roman with data which is flashable to cwm?
Nandroid backup backs up the entire rom and is restorable via cwm.
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nokiamodeln91 said:
Nandroid backup backs up the entire rom and is restorable via cwm.
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Thanks for prompt reply.
Will it create *.zip files that can be used to flash to factory default rom?
Not .zip AFAIK..it does on .tar format & another format (forgot the name)..anyways, u should be able to flash .tar using mobile odin..
It doesnot make a zip file. it makes a folder with the date and time when you made the backup. in it has ext4 files of you system,data cache, modem kernel etc.. all you need to do is boot into recovery and go to backup & restore and choose the folder you want to restore and it will do the job.. it doesnot require a zip file this way.

Preload and system foder

What is the preload folder for? Most of the APKs in it are also in the system folder. But the system folder has the corresponding odex files that come with the APKs. Is it safe to delete the ones in the preload folder?
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I delete multiple applications preload before installing the ROM and never had any problem, I have done over 10 ROMs. You can delete without fear.
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And you can delete to system/app too :good:
I have no intentions of un installing any of my apps. I'm just wondering if deleting the APKs in the preload folder won't affect what's already installed in my phone.
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l0rd_almighty said:
I have no intentions of un installing any of my apps. I'm just wondering if deleting the APKs in the preload folder won't affect what's already installed in my phone.
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There will not.
l0rd_almighty said:
What is the preload folder for? Most of the APKs in it are also in the system folder. But the system folder has the corresponding odex files that come with the APKs. Is it safe to delete the ones in the preload folder?
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It could be mostly because you came from a rom that used preload partition and before installing the new rom, you did not format preload partition.
nokiamodeln91 said:
It could be mostly because you came from a rom that used preload partition and before installing the new rom, you did not format preload partition.
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I did. Formatted systems folder as well. Even used philz cleanup tool via his kernel just to make sure.
Came from the Ultimate rom based of the JB leak. Formatted the system folder, the preload folder. Wiped dalvik and cache. Then did the clean up using philz kernel.
I then installed the official German JB using PC odin and rooted once more using philz kernel.
i have not installed the stock rom.. so you mean to say on stock rom the apps are there in both preload and system folder?
nokiamodeln91 said:
i have not installed the stock rom.. so you mean to say on stock rom the apps are there in both preload and system folder?
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Not all but some of them are. One example is the SecGallery2_Galaxy.apk. I can see it in both the preload and the system folders. A couple more examples are SecSettings.apk, the SecEmail.apk and a few more.
Reason I'm asking is I wanted to install a few mods like the Airview and the Lockscreen shortcuts, both of which were excluded in the official JB release for some reason. Instructions that were mentioned in thier respective threads here in XDA is to install either the preload or the system version of the zip files via cwm. I have to choose one or the other "depending" on where the original APKs are. That's where my problem comes in. For the Airview mod, I have the SecGallery in both the preload and the system folders. So I want to know how to figure out which one of those folders I should be using for the mods that I mentioned.
I installed the stock odexed rom and used the xml to permissions folder and the gallery apk to system. Change permissions and air view works.
nokiamodeln91 said:
I installed the stock odexed rom and used the xml to permissions folder and the gallery apk to system. Change permissions and air view works.
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I'm going to try it out when I get home.
They are in preload as the system partition is no longer big enough to handle jb roms efficiently. Preload is now just an extension of system without the need to repartition tue phone
The equivilant app in system folder is jusy a placeholder apk its 1kb and contains a link to the preload app.
You can move some to system if you wish but you may face issues as the partition becomea fuller.
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But that's not what I see in the stock odexed rom. In that there are 2 gallery apk one in system/app of 12.07MB and one in preload of the same size.
nokiamodeln91 said:
But that's not what I see in the stock odexed rom. In that there are 2 gallery apk one in system/app of 12.07MB and one in preload of the same size.
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Same with me. 2 of the same size in each of the folders.
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Re: Preload and system foderPreload and system foder
To understand this better,you need to know about symlink in linux os.
Symlink is like shortcut to a certain file in windows.Symlink actually creates a path to original file in a specific directory.
In roms,preload/symlinks/ is symlinked to /system/apps.Linux(also android) shows symlinked files in both source directory and also the destination directory creating an *illusion* that the file exists in both the directories.But in reality,the file exists only in source directory which is /preload/symlinks in this case.The symlinked files in /system/app are just a generic pointer to the files in preload.
Deleting symlinked file in /system/app will also delete original file in /preload and vice-versa.
Long story shortreload is just an place holder for extra apps which is accessed via shortcut in system/apps.(This not an absolute/accurate answer)
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Thanks Vijai for the explanation.. i understand that these are pointers.. but should be of the same size as the one in preload ? In deodexed roms there is only one file but in odexed .. there are 2
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Thanks Vijai for the explanation.. i understand that these are pointers.. but should be of the same size as the one in preload ? In deodexed roms there is only one file but in odexed .. there are 2
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It is not two files of same size actually.After symlink,the os mirrors the atributes and properties of the file from preload to system.So we feel that the file actually exists in two places of same size.But it is not.It only exists in preload.
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Ok this makes sense.. But if I pull the one from system/app using adb, should I get the link or the entire app? I currently get the app.
nokiamodeln91 said:
Ok this makes sense.. But if I pull the one from system/app using adb, should I get the link or the entire app? I currently get the app.
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The app.You get a file(which represents error) only if the symlinked file/directory goes missing.That means,if 2 dir are symlinked and the source dir goes missing,the symlink turns into a file which is not the case if a file is missing inside the directory.But if the symlink is between files,Symlink is broken if the source file goes missing.
Have you got ubuntu on your pc?When try symlinking and experiment with it,It will answer most of your doubts .Actually ubuntu shows it more graphically than android which does gets u confused
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Reinstall Clockworkmod

How do I reinstall Clockworkmod after I installed TWRP?
steventrannn said:
How do I reinstall Clockworkmod after I installed TWRP?
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Download CWM here http://goo.im/devs/jcsullins/cmtouchpad/recovery/update-CWM6_tenderloin-20121215.zip and flash it with TWRP. It will delete TWRP for you and change your default recovery.
Flash fails. Ive updated my twrp and it still fails. Any help appreciated.
Extract the file from the zip. Copy it to /boot folder... you may have to go to boot folder and first change it to RW mode (you need Root Explorer to do this because Ive never had any luck with any free file explorer being able to write to the boot folder) and also delete the uimage.TWRP file in the boot folder to make room. Then open file calleded android.default.recovery and instead of TWRP change it to ClockworkMod
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Extract the file from the zip. Copy it to /boot folder... you may have to go to boot folder and first change it to RW mode (you need Root Explorer to do this because Ive never had any luck with any free file explorer being able to write to the boot folder) and also delete the uimage.TWRP file in the boot folder to make room. Then open file calleded android.default.recovery and instead of TWRP change it to ClockworkMod
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cdzo is right, your boot folder is probably full, give rom Toolbox lite a try. It does work once given root privileges

Uninstall an update

hi everybodies:
I install Ink effect from this thread via CWM, now I want to un-install it.
can anyone help me how to do it?!
mhmadfarooq said:
hi everybodies:
I install Ink effect from this thread via CWM, now I want to un-install it.
can anyone help me how to do it?!
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You can't just uninstall. Those files from the zip overwrited files from your system. To get back you can use nandroid backup, if you nade it before. Also you can see what files are inside that zip (in folder system/app or system/framework) and replace them from your previous one. If you are on some ROM, you could just reflash it without wipes.
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shut_down said:
You can't just uninstall. Those files from the zip overwrited files from your system. To get back you can use nandroid backup, if you nade it before. Also you can see what files are inside that zip (in folder system/app or system/framework) and replace them from your previous one. If you are on some ROM, you could just reflash it without wipes.
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i am using stock rom...
i think i have to re-flash my phone using odin pro.
thank you man.

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