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Guys/Gals I need some help. I have seen an abundance of questions lately that I know for a fact are in the FAQ wiki. However, over half are not in Q&A format and are quite hard to follow/understand.
I have converted the Flashing section to Q&A format but I need help doing the rest. I work anywhere from 40-60 hrs a week and I really don't have the time to do the entire WIKI by myself. I am not asking for sympathy on my work week or any of that. That's life. Grin and deal with it. What I am asking is that If people would just modify 1 or 2 of the links in to Q&A format, it would not take nearly as long.
I am just trying to help and bring down the number of redundant questions. All of the info on how to edit the WIKI are there when you click edit. It's really simple to edit. Just a lot still to do.
Thanks everyone.
Here is the link to the FAQ Wiki.
OMG there is a WIKI? Man people should read that
If I get some time I'll give it a go.
Thanks man. I appreciate it.
In my opinion, Newbs that ask questions obviously dont take the time to read wiki or search, its much easier to ask a question and say "i searched" than it is to actually search. I have a idea for the newbs if it is a redundant post just ignore it. Like someone told me once "its like comming over to someones house uninvited and not taking your muddy shoes off" its flat out rude.
KD8DNS said:
In my opinion, Newbs that ask questions obviously dont take the time to read wiki or search, its much easier to ask a question and say "i searched" than it is to actually search. I have a idea for the newbs if it is a redundant post just ignore it. Like someone told me once "its like comming over to someones house uninvited and not taking your muddy shoes off" its flat out rude.
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I appreciate your sentiment but if it was in Q&A format, the redundant questions might slim down. They will never be obliterated but they might be curbed to a minimal. However, I do agree with you that it is easier to ask and say you searched even though we all know they don't. I was just thinking that it might help slim them down somewhat.
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I appreciate your sentiment but if it was in Q&A format, the redundant questions might slim down. They will never be obliterated but they might be curbed to a minimal. However, I do agree with you that it is easier to ask and say you searched even though we all know they don't. I was just thinking that it might help slim them down somewhat.
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BEEEELIEEEVEEEE me im not siding with the nooobs at all!!!!!
KD8DNS said:
BEEEELIEEEVEEEE me im not siding with the nooobs at all!!!!!
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No, I understand what you are saying. Trust me I do. Since I created this thread asking for help there has been no less than 6 redundant threads created. So trust me, I understand completely. Guess I'll get back to work editing it. Seems as though it can't be done fast enough.
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387350
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387336
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387349
4. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387312
5. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387339
6. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387344
Within 2 hrs. it will be on the second page and then it's "out of sight, out of mind".
OK Configuration is Done.
Now all we need is Other.
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OK Configuration is Done.
Now all we need is Other.
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Thank you. Job well done. Looks great.
I'll do the "other" section
XtreMe_G said:
I'll do the "other" section
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I cant say thank you enough. I really appreciate the help guys.
Dont forget to add yourself at the bottom. Dont be shy as it says.
ok, done with the other section......that took a lot longer than i expected. i had to edit some of the links, cause they werent right. no disrespect to gwen though, she did an awesome job.
i also noticed that there's nothing in there on sim-unlocking, if no one adds it i will add it later, need a break from this wiki
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ok, done with the other section......that took a lot longer than i expected. i had to edit some of the links, cause they werent right. no disrespect to gwen though, she did an awesome job.
i also noticed that there's nothing in there on sim-unlocking, if no one adds it i will add it later, need a break from this wiki
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Nice job man. That WIKI list is getting long and distinguished.
ok, i added the sim unlocking to the "other" section, dont know where else to put it.
although all the questions have been converted to Q&A form, you can still help, there is a todo list at the top of the FAQ, so please feel free to help with that. if you're afraid that you will mess up in editing the wiki, then just post you suggestions here.
Anyone know how Flar is getting on with the MediaWiki upgrade?
It would make the Wiki much more user friendly place to be.
I help out on GuildWiki (yes I'm a gamer ) and know my way around the WikiCode and system, so I'm willing to chip in where I can.
Dave
All I can say is THANK YOU. I really didnt expect this much response. To be honest, I expected to get flamed for even asking for help. Thank you guys. I really appreciate it.
I'm in awe at the amount of help. WOW.
I moved the Getting Started to, well, the start and reworded it. I hope it makes sense. What do you guys think?
Just wanted to stop by and congratulate all of you on the great job you've all done on the FAQ. Keep up the great work!
JimmyMcGee said:
I moved the Getting Started to, well, the start and reworded it. I hope it makes sense. What do you guys think?
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Looks great man. Nice indeed.
I was perusing over the Kaiser FAQ Wiki and I was wondering if we should break out each section as a separate page that. And we could have links from the main FAQ page to the Kaiser FAQ Flashing page, And The Kaiser FAQ Configuration, etc. That would make it less lengthy and maybe easier to navigate. I'm wondering if people are being over whelmed.
What do you guys think? I don't want newbies to say I couldn't find the question on the main page, becasue its on a separate page. However, I don't want them to say they couldn't find it because there are a ton of FAQs.
Ok i have been serching through these forums for weeks now so please dont bash me if there is a thread about this because i havent found any answer i am looking for in the many threads about this! My question is i want doom on my tilt i know how to get it and how to install problem is it wont run it, i read that my phone has to be unlocked before it will work, if that is the case is it a CID unlock or sim unlock i need to do? and if it is CID can i just flash hard-spl to my device to unlock it because i do not want to change roms only unlock it to play games, and if i use hard spl will i be forced to reboot my old rom or can i use it just to only unlock my phone. thanks for any information
WARNING: YOU'RE GETTING BASHED
You didn't search, and I can prove it.
Site search using Google. Search term "Kaiser Doom". It is the very first result. You probably would have been better admitting you didn't search at all than to lie about it.
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WARNING: YOU'RE GETTING BASHED
You didn't search, and I can prove it.
Site search using Google. Search term "Kaiser Doom". It is the very first result. You probably would have been better admitting you didn't search at all than to lie about it.[/Q
First off i have spent several hours and many days searching and did you read what was given on your search or just find some stuff on it and called it good, if you have read my thread then you will see that everywhere i look it doesnt explain what i am wanting to know, just jumping around different things,
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Ok i have been serching through these forums for weeks now so please dont bash me if there is a thread about this because i havent found any answer i am looking for in the many threads about this! My question is i want doom on my tilt i know how to get it and how to install problem is it wont run it, i read that my phone has to be unlocked before it will work, if that is the case is it a CID unlock or sim unlock i need to do? and if it is CID can i just flash hard-spl to my device to unlock it because i do not want to change roms only unlock it to play games, and if i use hard spl will i be forced to reboot my old rom or can i use it just to only unlock my phone. thanks for any information
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ummm, Ill tell you exactly what you want to know, but you need to post 5 url's for search engines.
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ummm, Ill tell you exactly what you want to know, but you need to post 5 url's for search engines.
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www.dogpile.com, www.google.com, www.yahoo.com, www.lycos.com, always tha www.msn.com
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ummm, Ill tell you exactly what you want to know, but you need to post 5 url's for search engines.
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Nice.
Oh and BTW, I did see your video driver. It's off playing Doom on 32X.
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www.dogpile.com, www.google.com, www.yahoo.com, www.lycos.com, always tha www.msn.com
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good that was step 1, now what you need to do is USE one of those url's to search for "doom for kaiser". and next time you post a redundant thread you can reference back to this redundant thread and use the search url's that you provided.
KD8DNS said:
good that was step 1, now what you need to do is USE one of those url's to search for "doom for kaiser". and next time you post a redundant thread you can reference back to this redundant thread and use the search url's that you provided.
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that was the stupidest thing i have ever heard!!!!! you are obviously not listening trying to make your friends on here laugh. why dont you type that in and read hours of useless information for days see how aggrivated you get. my question is not redundant mine has not been asked on here or anywhere else that i have spent days looking for and i can post pages of url's with nothing close to what i am asking. It must just be such a simple answer for you that you want to make it hard on someone who isnt a phone god!!!!! i thought this is what these forums are for? the time it just took you to type that idiotic reply you could have helped someone but chose to be immature so dont bother, someone more kind has already helped thanks
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that was the stupidest thing i have ever heard!!!!! you are obviously not listening trying to make your friends on here laugh. why dont you type that in and read hours of useless information for days see how aggrivated you get. my question is not redundant mine has not been asked on here or anywhere else that i have spent days looking for and i can post pages of url's with nothing close to what i am asking. It must just be such a simple answer for you that you want to make it hard on someone who isnt a phone god!!!!! i thought this is what these forums are for? the time it just took you to type that idiotic reply you could have helped someone but chose to be immature so dont bother, someone more kind has already helped thanks
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reading your thread is like walking into a brick wall with a hard on!!!
omfg, i cant believe it LOOK what i found
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...=doom&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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omfg, i cant believe it LOOK what i found
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...=doom&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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Nice.....not realy did you happen to even look at any of that.....??? all that talks about is the same REDUNDANT stuff i keep finding still not answering my non redundant question. my question is not how and where to get it all i want to know is do i need to unlock my CID to get this to work and nothing in all of that tells anything close to that, check them out for yourself instead of posting a link with pages that just say doom for kaiser without seeing if my question is in any of them, if your gonna post post something helpfull on my subject
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Nice.....not realy did you happen to even look at any of that.....??? all that talks about is the same REDUNDANT stuff i keep finding still not answering my non redundant question. my question is not how and where to get it all i want to know is do i need to unlock my CID to get this to work and nothing in all of that tells anything close to that, check them out for yourself instead of posting a link with pages that just say doom for kaiser without seeing if my question is in any of them, if your gonna post post something helpfull on my subject
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why in hell would you need to unlock your phone to put a game on it, we are not using a iphone.
p.s. your in no position to be talking about redundancy.
KD8DNS said:
why in hell would you need to unlock your phone to put a game on it, we are not using a iphone.
p.s. your in no position to be talking about redundancy.
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wow finally an answer, that wasnt so bad !!! and i dont know why, thats why i was asking, because your precious research that i supposedly didnt do told me that. so now you see why i am confused there are thousands of things to look up on the subject and all saying different things, confusing to someone who is not a computer wiz to find proper info.
P.S. if anyone is confused on this subject i wont hate on you for asking just message me to avoid the bashing from unwilling people that just want to make you look stupid
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wow finally an answer, that wasnt so bad !!! and i dont know why, thats why i was asking, because your precious research that i supposedly didnt do told me that. so now you see why i am confused there are thousands of things to look up on the subject and all saying different things, confusing to someone who is not a computer wiz to find proper info.
P.S. if anyone is confused on this subject i wont hate on you for asking just message me to avoid the bashing from unwilling people that just want to make you look stupid
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Jesus. You are an arrogant one aren't you. I would think that if it didn't say you needed to do something extreme, like unlock, that you wouldn't. But I guess I think like that.
ALSO, if you wanted to know for sure. Respond in the Doom On Kaiser thread.
Get off your high horse and contribute to the community. That's why were are here. We are a development community, not a Tech Support Community. WE help out each other. I can't make ROMs. But I test them out and help other people that have questions. I also provide Mirrors. I'm not here to hold your hand. But if you are trying and stuck, then I will help.
You stated, "why dont[sic] you type that in and read hours of useless information for days see how aggrivated[sic] you get." That's the problem, most of us senior members, have read useless stuff because people refuse to search.
Your attitude when people tried to help you was appalling. Understand our side. We see the same thread a dozen times a day. We search and find the answer. Gets a little frustrating. But to be attacked for GIVING Answers, That is completely rude. In fact. IF you DO stick around. I will not help you unless you apologize to the people who tried to point you in the right direction. But I have a feeling you got want you wanted an won't be returning to our community. I for one will not be shedding a tear in your honor.
Please do not disturb the members of these forums with questions that can be answered by reading the wiki or stickies. Thread is closed. If you're wondering why, please read the forum rules, found in the sticky link in my sig.
Hi all,
for starters, I know where the search-button is and I know how to read, I've read the stickies and most of the links, so no obvious remarks please
I'm having a hard time finding good threads to read about creating/editing/cooking roms, understanding what XIP/SYS files are, knowing how to strip/add programs,...
I've used keywords like: rom cooking, xip, how to, port, tut(orial), etc...
It only gives a gazillion answers and most of the time useless threads...
Once in a while it's worth reading, but most of the time it's junk or way to specific/difficult...
So the question is, could anyone link some usefull good threads/discussions/how-to's that they've read?
Maybe you could give it a rating yourself going from beginner/intermediate/pro...
Maybe such a condensed topic is already on the forums, then please do show me, since I didn't found it yet...
If you're first thought is "god, not again", then please, don't respond at all
Thanks for your time!
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If you're first thought is "god, not again", then please, don't respond at all
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Man, this thread is just below you as of this moment ....
Really nice cooking class for Blackstone, but very usable for Kovsky too!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480714
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Man, this thread is just below you as of this moment ....
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Jack,it's not because of my low post count, that I'm just around here...
I've seen and read that post several times, I've dumped my own rom and downloaded others, I extracted them and started fiddling around, but that's all what I did, fiddling, since I don't really know what I'm doing...
For instance, I'm reading and seeing XIP everywhere, but I don't even understand what it stands for, I can't find (or don't use the right keywords) to find any decent info on it...
I found this great post of Ameet about porting XIP, but that's already about hardcore coding without the basic info I hoped to find... I'm just a beginner, that'll be stuff to read when I'm several months further...
It all starts with the saying, "give a man a fish and he can eat for a whole day. Learn him how to fish and he can eat a life-time.."
The post you refered to is great to learn how the kitchen works, great for learning how to use tools, but the action eventually only shows how to remove standard OEM stuff out of a rom. Nothing more...
Understanding the ins and outs of a rom, how it's build and why, how it's linked and what it does... That's where I think it starts, but that's what I can't find... If no-one ever wrote anything about it, then I will, but then I'll have to try and find bits of pieces of info everywhere... And that's why I posted the question. So people could at least point to some information they know where to find...
I've even seen and tried your work... It's great, but it's a full working, locked rom (at least, it doesn't break down using htainlin's info to the same files and folders as a stockrom does, or I'm using the wrong tools)... I can't see what you've done to make it that way... I can't open it to compare with something stock to see what has changed and conclude what your changes really do... I don't mind reverse engineering, I do have a brain I can use to figure things out..
Well, sorry for the rant, and if I somehow offended you, I didn't intend to, I just hope you now understand what I'm trying to accomplish
Thanks for all who even tried to read this
@Lokatho
Thanks! I've only read the index, but I already know I'll be busy reading that for a couple of hours...
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Jack,it's not because of my low post count, that I'm just around here...
I've seen and read that post several times, I've dumped my own rom and downloaded others, I extracted them and started fiddling around, but that's all what I did, fiddling, since I don't really know what I'm doing...
For instance, I'm reading and seeing XIP everywhere, but I don't even understand what it stands for, I can't find (or don't use the right keywords) to find any decent info on it...
I found this great post of Ameet about porting XIP, but that's already about hardcore coding without the basic info I hoped to find... I'm just a beginner, that'll be stuff to read when I'm several months further...
It all starts with the saying, "give a man a fish and he can eat for a whole day. Learn him how to fish and he can eat a life-time.."
The post you refered to is great to learn how the kitchen works, great for learning how to use tools, but the action eventually only shows how to remove standard OEM stuff out of a rom. Nothing more...
Understanding the ins and outs of a rom, how it's build and why, how it's linked and what it does... That's where I think it starts, but that's what I can't find... If no-one ever wrote anything about it, then I will, but then I'll have to try and find bits of pieces of info everywhere... And that's why I posted the question. So people could at least point to some information they know where to find...
I've even seen and tried your work... It's great, but it's a full working, locked rom (at least, it doesn't break down using htainlin's info to the same files and folders as a stockrom does, or I'm using the wrong tools)... I can't see what you've done to make it that way... I can't open it to compare with something stock to see what has changed and conclude what your changes really do... I don't mind reverse engineering, I do have a brain I can use to figure things out..
Well, sorry for the rant, and if I somehow offended you, I didn't intend to, I just hope you now understand what I'm trying to accomplish
Thanks for all who even tried to read this
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Well, I never judge xda member on their post count since I know some experts in this field maybe new to XDA-developers and some people w/ very high post count are keep on posting **** (e.g. someone in X1 general inventing 4D glasses and UI. )
Most kitchen (at least the one I pointed to) is just a Dos batch script to automated all the tedious command and parameters w/ all the needed tools. You can learn a lot of in and out if just you open it w/ a editor, follow the steps manually and research those tools individually.
If you really want to learning cooking in the hard way, I had a writeup long time back for Asus P525 which most of the steps still apply to any HTC rom nowaday.
All the documents for how to fish is here and we are still seeing people creating new threads for questions that been address millions time. This is a developers forum afterall and no one is responsible to feed you while your hands are free.
Regarding my rom, I never intend to lock it. Both V1 and V2 are extractable but rgu are removed due to space and speed considerateion. Afterall, the main purpose of a rom is for daily "use" instead of "teaching material". Why am I bother to slow my rom down just because I have to let others to extract it?
Jack,
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This part was for the locking section you refer to
I already figured out a number of reasons why it would be "locked", and space-limiting was one of them... I definately understand your reasons and by no means am I complaining about it... It's just a pity I can't use such good material as a reference to study...
As for examining the tools, I was already wondering what they're all doing and what they're needed for... However I'm a bit cautious since I don't know how they work... This'll be a matter of trial-and-error...
I will definately have a look at what you've written, not that I'm keen on really wanting to learn it the hard way, but it might make it easier to understand the working of some of the tools...
About the fishing, you are right, no-one is obligated to give me anything. I was merely asking if some-one might remember a post they once read and found very usefull in understanding or learning the process of cooking...
As I already stated, I used the search-button and already found bits of information that I thought were a little usefull, but I'm having a hard time finding any good posts... The topic Lokatho refered to was a great link and gave me some good information and I've got some nice material to work and practice with... It would've taken me ages to find me or just dumb luck...
I'm keeping together all the links I used to read and learn and might paste them in a write-up once I think I've learned a fair bit
To finalise this reply, I understand your frustration, there will always be people who ask the most simple things on any forum, may it be ppc, car, house or anything related... Questions in here like, how do I have to flash your rom, what is hard-spl, why can't you make a 'insert langueage'-rom, reporting a "bug" that's been declared not a bug for several pages already... Those are the most annoying questions I've seen until now(just to name a few) and are really an indication those are posted by lazy people...
Cheers
Q
i don't know if this will help any of you dedicated developers, but i pulled a bootlog from the (ugh, recently un-)rooted rogers dream i have with osmonitor. i can't make too much sense of it, so maybe you will have better luck?
First hint what is a sentance called if you add a ? to the end of it....
a QUESTION...
now QUESTIONS go in the QUESTIONS section
now that you have been educated up to a first grade level, maybe you can post this in the right forum and mayyybe someone will give you help, im hoping not however
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First hint what is a sentance called if you add a ? to the end of it....
a QUESTION...
now QUESTIONS go in the QUESTIONS section
now that you have been educated up to a first grade level, maybe you can post this in the right forum and mayyybe someone will give you help, im hoping not however
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Wow, did you even read what they said, or did you just look for a question mark and post a generic response? No question was asked other than a rhetorical one... Seriously, this forum has far too many wannabe mods. To be honest, that was a pretty rude response considering they've done nothing wrong at all but trying to help in development.
Sorry I can't actually help with that log, I just had to say something, this is getting out of hand o.0.
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Wow, did you even read what they said, or did you just look for a question mark and post a generic response? No question was asked other than a rhetorical one... Seriously, this forum has far too many wannabe mods. To be honest, that was a pretty rude response considering they've done nothing wrong at all but trying to help in development.
Sorry I can't actually help with that log, I just had to say something, this is getting out of hand o.0.
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Guess is a higher geek count then in most places dont let it get to you tho.
well, now that is what I call a rather rude response. I posted that at 9 pm, and wasn't really too coherent. I'm also surprised that it offended you that much that you had to start a personal attack on me; Seeing as it wound up buried on page two or three by this morning. I posted that boot log as I noticed something when I was looking at it, that it ignored the previous radio versions, and thought that might be a clue for someone who knows about the roms to actually do something constructive. Not that reminding me about the rules of grammar and such wasn't constructive.
Moved as not Android Development.
Im not sure if this can be done with an unrooted fone but if you have Android SDK then get a logcat.
The Devs can understand this much better I think.
please anyone who cares about this forum, please make a rule, something and arrange the topics by criteria, rom problem, rom request, rom developers, and so etc something like that. is verry hard to read all the posts. dono how to display more post per page. anyway is toooo crawded in here. cleaning is needed. 10x
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please anyone who cares about this forum, please make a rule, something and arrange the topics by criteria, rom problem, rom request, rom developers, and so etc something like that. is verry hard to read all the posts. dono how to display more post per page. anyway is toooo crawded in here. cleaning is needed. 10x
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I find it organized just fine and find whatever I need in the sections it is posted under. Another problem is that you expect everything you need to be separately posted without having to look for it. In fact, I find requests like yours interesting, considering the overall number of posts by you....
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I find it organized just fine and find whatever I need in the sections it is posted under. Another problem is that you expect everything you need to be separately posted without having to look for it. In fact, I find requests like yours interesting, considering the overall number of posts by you....
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Can`t say i`ve overposted, but i`m reading this stuff for a while. I will post from now on if that satisfy s u.
Hey there, ther should only be ROM dev going on here. Rom Probs should be asked in the appropriate thread. I also move all other generic Q's to Q&A , but your right, the forum does need cleaning as i've been away for a few weeks
If you have any other issues, feel free to contact me.
Oh, and moved to general