Greetings to all,
I am new to these forums as well as the curious world of rooting, flashing ROMS, etc, it is all very interesting to me. After simply scouring and reading for many months I have chosen to do a bit of tinkering with my new N7000. A few days ago I followed Dr. Ketan's guide here ----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997 and used Odin to flash LPY (Open Germany). Everything was fine, however after reading a few posts about hardbricking, specifically this one by Entropy512 ----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633943 I realized that LPY was unsafe and heeded the warning to switch off of that version. Using the same steps I used before in Dr Ketan's guide I used Odin to go back to GB, specifically version N7000XEULA1 (Europe) which to my knowledge is the version my Note would have come with out of box living in Ireland.
After reverting back to GB I have been getting this warning "The process android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly" with the option to Force Close. My instincts tell me to do a factory reset but I have read many posts about not doing any factory resets from recovery. Here lies my question: What is my next move if I wish to revert back to the currently available version of GB that would be available to me before I started tinkering? I realize now that maybe I need to do a little bit more research before venturing down the dark path of flashing ROMs as I have no interest in bricking my phone...eeek!
I am in Ireland running on the Meteor network. Current Kernal version is [email protected]#2 I never rooted my phone throughout this process to my knowledge.
Any assistance would be very appreciated and certainly rewarded with a "Thanks"
Good to wipe now you're on GB.
Cheers
Thanks for the response Towserspvm2000, much appriciated. I did as you suggested and all looks fine. I guess it is only dangerous to wipe from recovery while on ICS ROMs then? Are you only at risk of hardbricking if you are rooted and using LPY ICS or is unrooted LPY ICS dangerous as well? I went the unrooted route because I thought it was safer and more simple as I am new to this and trying to learn something. I appreciate what all you guys do. Thanks again.
Justinbuckley said:
Are you only at risk of hardbricking if you are rooted and using LPY ICS or is unrooted LPY ICS dangerous as well?
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That is the 64,000 dollar question. Just don't wipe from any of the ICS roms. If i'm on ICS and something goes wrong, I always PC Odin back to GB before doing anything else. I've always had root too.
I much preferred ICS to GB, but I'm sticking to GB for now, until the delvelopers on here and/or samsung know where the problem lies exactly.
Yeah I much prefer ICS as well. I was on the HTC One X (a beast of a phone when it works, very powerful) which comes with ICS out of box but after having to return 2 of them because of hardware issues I came over to the Note. I love it but the lack of ICS is killing me, it's just a superior OS and the few days I had it on the Note were great but can't risk breaking such an expensive device. I'm with you on waiting until a more stable version is out so I'll cheer from the sidelines until I learn more. The amount of info on these forums is great but for a noobie like me it's a bit overload and no matter how much you read you still have questions (and I even work in IT so I'm not 100% lost)
@Justinbuckley I read somewhere in the forum a signature line which basically inspired me to venture into 'dark world of roms'.. The line was "Its not important which phone you have, what matters is how much you can mod it"
And ya, I think since you are on GB, you should go ahead and do a flashing again for any custom stable rom of GB first. I would suggest Rocket ROM or Check ROM.
This android.process.... Problem should get solved first
Thanks for the encouraging words. I didn't mean to suggest that I was put off of flashing ROMs and learning more about development, I just realized that maybe I bit off a bit more than I can chew initially. I will continue to read and learn from the big guys but maybe stick with GB based ROMs for now as they seem to be more safe. I will do some more scouring and perhaps try Rocket but isn't that also an LPY kernal which is what we have been advised to stay away from? Is it valid to say that ROM flashing while unrooted is generally "safer" than flashing ROMs you need to be rooted for? Or are you limited to what you can flash if you are not rooted? Learning more by the day!
I will reply soon when I wake up.. and its alright. :beer:
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Justinbuckley said:
Thanks for the encouraging words. I didn't mean to suggest that I was put off of flashing ROMs and learning more about development, I just realized that maybe I bit off a bit more than I can chew initially. I will continue to read and learn from the big guys but maybe stick with GB based ROMs for now as they seem to be more safe. I will do some more scouring and perhaps try Rocket but isn't that also an LPY kernal which is what we have been advised to stay away from? Is it valid to say that ROM flashing while unrooted is generally "safer" than flashing ROMs you need to be rooted for? Or are you limited to what you can flash if you are not rooted? Learning more by the day!
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Alright. Here is the ROCKETROM GINGERBREAD version(which I was talking about ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380284
The GB version is pretty stable and good working. I always keep it as a backup GB ROM whenever I revert from ICS to GB.
Well, I would say that there are two types of ICS ROMs which I found and was quite ambiguous at the first time when I was a beginner. Here are the both:
1. RocketROM ICS V2: Based on LPY ROM. (Recommended*)
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1654838
2. TeamRocket : which I believe is based on chinese leak.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507265
*If you want desperately the TouchWIZ based rom then go for RocketROM than TeamRocket.
Aye, RocketROM is ICS based on LPY (Boooo ! ) kernel. And it is risky. All LPY, LPF kernels are risky at the moment.
So if you want to move to ICS safely and also desperate to get the 'so far' best features out of your Note, then go for AOSP based roms. They are not cooked in a kitchen. They are properly developed. I suggest you should go for Asylum ICS or ParanoidAndroid or MIUI 2.0 etc. All these are based on CM9 Build which is safe.
About: Is it valid to say that ROM flashing while unrooted is generally "safer" than flashing ROMs you need to be rooted for?
Ahh, see rooting doesn't have any effect on bricking as far as I believe. Its the bootloader which is acts as the bomb. And that slacky emmc bug in ICS is the trigger to make that bomb go off. So more than rooting and unrooting, the technique of install should be precise to what the Dev has prescribed. They surely know a gazillion more info than what any of us know
About: Or are you limited to what you can flash if you are not rooted?
I guess PC Odin should do its job for flashing phone without root. If you want to know more, refer to Dr. Ketan's Guide on how to flash the firmwares using Odin.
So, this is give you the crux of what's happening in the sea! xD
Always, think twice & read thrice before flashing any ROM.
Also remember, samsung knows how many flashes you have made till now
Good luck!
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badjaguar007 said:
Alright. Here is the ROCKETROM GINGERBREAD version(which I was talking about ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380284
The GB version is pretty stable and good working. I always keep it as a backup GB ROM whenever I revert from ICS to GB.
Well, I would say that there are two types of ICS ROMs which I found and was quite ambiguous at the first time when I was a beginner. Here are the both:
1. RocketROM ICS V2: Based on LPY ROM. (Recommended*)
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1654838
2. TeamRocket : which I believe is based on chinese leak.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507265
*If you want desperately the TouchWIZ based rom then go for RocketROM than TeamRocket.
Aye, RocketROM is ICS based on LPY (Boooo ! ) kernel. And it is risky. All LPY, LPF kernels are risky at the moment.
So if you want to move to ICS safely and also desperate to get the 'so far' best features out of your Note, then go for AOSP based roms. They are not cooked in a kitchen. They are properly developed. I suggest you should go for Asylum ICS or ParanoidAndroid or MIUI 2.0 etc. All these are based on CM9 Build which is safe.
About: Is it valid to say that ROM flashing while unrooted is generally "safer" than flashing ROMs you need to be rooted for?
Ahh, see rooting doesn't have any effect on bricking as far as I believe. Its the bootloader which is acts as the bomb. And that slacky emmc bug in ICS is the trigger to make that bomb go off. So more than rooting and unrooting, the technique of install should be precise to what the Dev has prescribed. They surely know a gazillion more info than what any of us know
About: Or are you limited to what you can flash if you are not rooted?
I guess PC Odin should do its job for flashing phone without root. If you want to know more, refer to Dr. Ketan's Guide on how to flash the firmwares using Odin.
So, this is give you the crux of what's happening in the sea! xD
Always, think twice & read thrice before flashing any ROM.
Also remember, samsung knows how many flashes you have made till now
Good luck!
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And ya I woke up
Thanks
Just a great post, I think I am going to go for one of the CM9 build ROMs as I think I should stay away from LPY for now. I know many of the ICS roms don't have s-pen capability which is really a deal breaker for me, I'll do some more research now to se if the CM9's do. ICS was promised in Q2 (and in Q1) so that should be by today if I'm not mistaken. What's the deal with Samsung? Sheesh!
Seems that there really is no added danger in rooting your phone and that there is a lot to gain from doing it. I may have to do this.
Glad you woke up from your beer coma! lol
i did the same thing
in my brothers phone we went from LPY TO ALC1
follow these instructions... there are for safely change any rom , go in ICS and back etc
the files you need are in a rar in my public drop box.. you have there ANYTHING you need without reading post after post and getting confused..
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/43609376/Steps for a Rooted GB/Steps for a safe rooted rom.exe
1. i connect the phone to the pc (while i have ticked in my phone
the "usb debuging " option ) you find it in "applications" -> development -> usb debuging
i wait for the pc to install the phone drivers
and i open Odin 1.85
thourgh odin i use the files of the folder
"Rooted_Stock_Odex_N7000XXLC1"
with the order showed in the pic "odin file order"
i press start .
the phone is now rooted and i just need CWM
2.
i choose in the folder
"CF-Root-SGN_XX_OXA_LC1-v5.3-CWM5"
the file "already-rooted.bat"
i follow the pc screen instructions and let the program do it's thing. when it's finished
it will tell me to reboot ...
now i have a safe rooted phone with CWM , (the program i need to have in my boot menu for endless custom roms)
NOW
3. for ANY custom rom .. GB or ICS ,that i want to install
I FOLLOW THESE GOLDEN RULES and i am safe...
Four steps to installing any rom for galaxy note
a. put the file abyss 4.2 into your phone reboot to recovery
choose install zip and then choose the file... now you have Abyss kernel.
b. press reboot to recovery ( just to be sure )
c.chose wipe Data, cache and in advanced the dalvike cache wipe
d. if you want to be extra cool reboot to recovery one more and
chose the custom rom of your choise (the one you have downloaded allready and placed inside the phone waiting
as a zip file..
YOU ARE DONE..
This is the universal instructions for any ics rom installation.
No brick and maintain root.
Justinbuckley said:
Just a great post, I think I am going to go for one of the CM9 build ROMs as I think I should stay away from LPY for now. I know many of the ICS roms don't have s-pen capability which is really a deal breaker for me, I'll do some more research now to se if the CM9's do. ICS was promised in Q2 (and in Q1) so that should be by today if I'm not mistaken. What's the deal with Samsung? Sheesh!
Seems that there really is no added danger in rooting your phone and that there is a lot to gain from doing it. I may have to do this.
Glad you woke up from your beer coma! lol
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Haha. Chuckles! And ya I would say one more thing. Always before wiping and switching to any ICS, I made a policy to revert back to stable GB. Even though I don't expect you to follow that (I know its a tiresome process), but at the times of flashing risky kernel make sure you do go back to a GB
CM9
Must I be rooted to flash a CM9 ROM like Paranoidandroid?
Also, just to be clear, is this installation process different than when I flashed LPY using ODIN because that is the only kind I have done thus far. Haven't done the flash from the sd card yet.
Visit the Thread of Asylum ICS or ParanoidAndroid. I guess you should use search button. You will get it. And ya make sure you find the ROM under your phone's development section only Else many have wrongly flashed Samsung S2 ROMs
Search
I really have been using the search button, and have scoured that thread, I find the instructions for install to not be very beginner friendly which is why I asked. The fact many have flashed the SGS2 ROM is probably evidence of that I'd say. I'll keep looking though.
Related
I have a Samsung i9000 which I have rooted with super one click details of my phone are:
Model: GT-I9000
Firmware: 2.3.5
Baseband: I9000NEJVB
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-I9000NEJVK-CL649158 [email protected] #2
Build No.: GINGERBREAD NEJVK
My question is this Can I flash this phone with any kernel or does it have to be specific to any of the numbers above (which I do not know what they mean) and if it does have to be specific could someone please tell me which kernel/s are compatible
Many thanks in advance
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If you want root with proper CWM recovery you will most likely need to flash a kernel with Odin.
SuperOneClick gives you root for things like apps but you generally still have 3e recovery and you end up with signature failure whenever you try flash something from CWM.
In terms of kernels the easiest one which is closest to stock is CF-Root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
You generally want the same cf-root kernel as the last three digits of where it says gingerbreadxxx.
The rest of the instructions are in the first couple of posts. Fairly long but if you just read it slowly and go step by step its fairly easy.
Once you have flashed this you should have the correct recovery to flash other kernels & custom roms.
NB: Before you start all of this make sure to back up your phone. I would recommend connecting phone to pc & copying entire internal sd card straight to a folder on your pc. Also make sure to back up EFS folder. This is where your EMEI number is stored and you will want this if something goes wrong.
From Cyanogenmod Galaxy S wiki page:
Before you do anything — Make a backup
Don't forget to back up your data. If you have synced the device with a Google account, then the contacts, calendar, Gmail, & select other Google-related data will not be lost and will come back after the next sync. However, you should backup anything you want to keep that is not stored on the SD card:
SMS/MMS messages, Call Log, Bookmarks, Applications; use Titanium Backup or the Astro File Manager, for example, Any application data not on the SD card.
It would also be a good idea to backup everything stored on the SD card in the rare case the SD card must be formatted to resolve any major problems.
MyBackup Root, SMS Backup & Restore, and Call Backup & Restore are all free applications that can assist with backing up your data.
Hi, welcome to XDA man
Firstly everything scubadude said above is fairly important
Secondly; well it really depends on what you're looking for mate. If you just wanna upgrade your kernel (and by the sounds of it you dont really know what a kernel is, or what it does) then flashing a kernel only does so much on a standard rom. Flashing CF root kernel gives you proper root for root apps and clockworkmod (CWM) recovery so you can flash addons and suchlike.
However people usually root their phones so they can install a custom rom, which can improve speed, battery life, functionality and a ton of other things, and that's when people start looking around for different kernels which complement their current rom.
Just wanting a kernel with your stock rom doesn't make a whole load of sense. A ROM is what'll improve your phone.
If you want all the benefits of rooting, i'd suggest looking for a new ROM and flashing that.
If you're unsure of what rom to flash, read around in the i9000 development forum and read through different roms features. You could flash an android 2.3.X rom which would be a gingerbread (GB) rom or an android 4.0.X rom which would be an ice cream sandwich rom (ICS)
Dont ask which is the best rom for GB or ICS please, there are a billion threads like it, and it always comes down to this; read around, look at the features each rom gives, look at any bugs they may have (ICS roms probably have a few bugs here and there where most GB roms are completely stable) and decide if said ROM is good for you.
If you want a very stable, very fast, decent battery life and easy to flash GB rom then i'd suggest Gamerzrom. I'm running it atm.
However the dev stopped developing for it, but i can link you to ALL the files you need to flash the rom and a set of instructions if you'd like. I have a copy of all of them because i flash new roms but i usually go back to it anyway.
Definitely read the development section, you'll find something that sounds good for you.
Oh and for your information;
ICS > GB
and for GB firmwares, in order from newest to oldest, all 2.3.6 firmwares;
JW5>JW4>JVU>JW1
(those last two may be mixed up)
Most GB roms are on 2.3.6 now so it helps to know the above.
Thanks for the reply guys very much appteciated
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No problemo, just hit thanks please
I think Gamerzrom is still being developed but it has been moved to another forum. Technorumor blog.
If you want a list of ICS ROMS & Kernels check this thread out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24536220#post24536220
For a fairly thorough ICS benchmark thread check this out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554621
For modems check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158783
As mentioned there are plenty of threads out there asking about ROMS & for every ROM there are going to be people that tell you the one they are using is best. If you are going ICS there is a nice easy tutorial here.
It is for Team ICSSGS. It is an older ICS ROM but development has been slow lately so while it is still good it is running ICS 4.0.3 while the newer ROMS are all on ICS 4.0.4. Having said that it is still a great tutorial & rom to get you started. It goes right from all the files you need, to getting a stock rom in case things fail to flashing ICS. Once you done everything in this tutorial you will be in a good position to start flashing & testing roms to find the one you like.
Oh yes if we have helped hit thanks.
Root is essential if want access to the system of your phone(elusive folders).
Then u can tweak kernel(eg.voltage control or mc tweaker)and improve GPS(GPS aids) or backup your apps and settings with titanium backup.all these are apps u can download from android market.
These are good reasons to root your phone.
If u flash cf-root kernel u will have many options to tweak your phone,because it support init-d(all custom kernel's support this).like supercharger v6 or thunderbolt tweaks this will improve your phone greatly.but u need to READ a lot before going down this road.
Anyway good luck and don't be afraid to root.
ok i think i may have screwed up my phone i flashed the cf-root kernel and phone rebooted. it has now been stuck on the boot animation for an age( blue flashing android word) is there a way of getting it back to stock nejvb. please help this is my only mobile
sorted it thank god found threes firmware etc.
Glad it's sorted
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Go to settings/about phone and check your build,then go to cf-root thread and find a kernel that matches your build and flash that.
But make sure that it's the i9000 thread and not the i9100.
There is a MOBILE ODIN,that is quite easy to operate. If u already got root u can flash almost anything.search for it, it's made by chainfire(cf-root, yep same guy)
But u need root to operate
time to do my rom
ok managed to flash my kernel with the cf-jvb kernel. what i would like to know now is "can i now just flash a rom, and could u explain what a modem is and do i need one or is it included in the rom" i am wanting to speed up my i9000 so could someone suggest a stable GB or ICS rom.
many thx in advance for all your help so far
I have just noticed that this new kernel will not allow Wi-Fi connection it will turn on, scan, wont find my connection and then turn its self off. Have I done something wrong or is it just the kernel that doesn't allow it?
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According to your opening post. Your build is jvk not jvb. Jvb is your baseband. Which you change depending on where in the world you live, it will make your phone have a strong signal. For example my build is jw5 so I use a root made for jw5. I use kg3 as my baseband because it is the stock bell Canada modem and gives the best signal. Root with jvk not jvb. Gl
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With so many horror stories being posted, I don't know what to believe. When will it be relatively safe for us to update to ics?
I came from an HD2, and that was a treasure for flashing different roms. But it seems like the note is so easy to brick.
Edit: All I've done so far is root my note using Dr. Ketan's method.
It's mainly horror stories. Dozens, if not more already flashed to ICS without any problems. Of course there is occasionaly someone with bad luck, but that is also on the OTA updates. Every now and again something goes wrong, but it's a small chance and usually you are still able to fix it afterwards.
So just stick closely to the manual, don't cut corners and you'll probably be okay.
Otherwise, just wait for the OTAs. That's what I'm doing, but that is mainly because I'm a little lazy. However when I got the ICS kernel I'll put vanilla ICS over it.
I've flashed dozends of ROMs on my old HTC desire including ICS. At the end it worked always fine.
1. Backup
2. Wait after flashing - some roms need their time. After 10 min I've sometimes put out the battery to restart...
3. Enjoy
So don't fear!
I'm waiting for ICS OTA also. There have been lots of mixed reports with the previously leaked ICS ROMS - some bricked and some not. I've had a great run with flashing GB ROMs and Kernels but will wait for more official versions.
BTW - A colleague has a Note about four weeks old bought via the web. It turned out to be a German handset and he was successfully able to flash via KIES. I'm jealous - my Note 6 months old and I am still waiting for official ICS !
If you dont have any crazy combination of rom with custom kernel and cwm then is fine
Just dont wipe before flashing
And wipe after flashing
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The fact that we have had ANY bricks at all suggests to me that this is not safe to flash, and even though I have been able to successfully flash LPY and run it, (not without problems), the bit that concerns me is the bricking due to large file copying which has been mentioned by various people.
Since I regularly copy large files to and from the device, I do not plan to subject my device to testing the theory.
I flashed ics yesterday and everything went fine, Iam always paranoid when comes to flashing but research before actual flash is vital! SEARCH button overheats and Iam ALWAYS following instructions!
Dont know what would I do without xda and those so capaple devs!
Galaxy Note!!!
I have flashed LPY a total of 3 times so far without any problems. I have wiped/deleted cache etc etc. The Bricks are all related to modified kernels and CWM. If you you use the stock LPY kernel then all will be fine.
I have also flashed CM9 several times and had no issues what so ever.
If you need root on LPY best method is to flash a GB rom and get root, then use mobile odin with the everoot option to flash LPY.
DO NOT flash the CF Root kernel, This is where problems may start. Keep it Stock and all should be fine.
nandihno said:
Just dont wipe before flashing
And wipe after flashing
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Why is it safe to wipe after flashing and not before? I thought it was the other way around?
neos_83 said:
Why is it safe to wipe after flashing and not before? I thought it was the other way around?
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It is the other way around.
Anyway, I fear this might be another superbrick in the making...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653290
And another one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649982
vetchems said:
I have flashed LPY a total of 3 times so far without any problems. I have wiped/deleted cache etc etc. The Bricks are all related to modified kernels and CWM. If you you use the stock LPY kernel then all will be fine.
I have also flashed CM9 several times and had no issues what so ever.
If you need root on LPY best method is to flash a GB rom and get root, then use mobile odin with the everoot option to flash LPY.
DO NOT flash the CF Root kernel, This is where problems may start. Keep it Stock and all should be fine.
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This is exactly what I did...
Mobile Odin Pro inject SuperSU and everroot......NO CF ROOT had a good GB ROM and Kernel. Only wipe done was done by Mobile Odin Pro
No I am 100% stock IPY with root...The fun will start when I begin flashing custom ROMS. Will need to flash CWR for that.
to answer the original question... no... because i thoroughly read as much as i can find before i flash anything...even google it to see if there are problems ... hence i have ics rumming and running without any strange issues...
tbong777 said:
This is exactly what I did...
Mobile Odin Pro inject SuperSU and everroot......NO CF ROOT had a good GB ROM and Kernel. Only wipe done was done by Mobile Odin Pro
No I am 100% stock IPY with root...The fun will start when I begin flashing custom ROMS. Will need to flash CWR for that.
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I decided I did not want to "tip toe" around my normal processes with this device and went ahead and flashed CF Root with CWM. Going to need CWM to flash Roms and the LPY kernel has nt proven to be all that safe either. There is at least one case of a Superbrick wiping from Stock Recovery.
I bought these devices to mess with. I have a back up S2 and the s3 is out....Worst that can happen is I sell for parts.
well i am lucky so far as i dint have any issue with my note even after flashing lpy somany times from cwm may b me lucky till now
I'm terrified of flashing any roms on now after all the horror stories. I honestly don't even really care if I have ICS. I just hate how slow the stock ROM is. I would be very very happy with CM7 with SPen functionality.
This kind of sucks coming from an LG G2X which had so many stable roms and kernals to choose from
I thought a Samsung phone would have had even more but I guess not.
Probably like everyone else, I read Entropy's thread and became SUPER paranoid. He said there's no way to tell if you're slowly degrading the emmc or not unless you're on a 100% safe kernel / rom. I'm confused about the rest of the details. Apparently cm9 is 100% safe, but even the official ics can brick our note if we still have reminants of a leaked ics rom / kernel?
People alot more knowledgable than me have been bricking their note, so I will wait for an idiot proof method.
I would luv to see a step by step guide on video.
Also still dont grasp the fact that even if we put an official ics from Germany will won't get upgrades.
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I've been using lpy since release, and although I've had no problems so far, don't have cwm just root, but the more posts IM reading about people experiencing bricks from many different methods is definitively scaring me.
Chasmodo is a very reputable developer as is Entropy. I heed their words and will flash back to GB today, it's just not worth the risk.
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Thijsvr said:
It's mainly horror stories. Dozens, if not more already flashed to ICS without any problems. Of course there is occasionaly someone with bad luck, but that is also on the OTA updates. Every now and again something goes wrong, but it's a small chance and usually you are still able to fix it afterwards.
So just stick closely to the manual, don't cut corners and you'll probably be okay.
Otherwise, just wait for the OTAs. That's what I'm doing, but that is mainly because I'm a little lazy. However when I got the ICS kernel I'll put vanilla ICS over it.
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I also initially thought it was all speculation and anecdotal evidence. However, it appears that at least one user who has upgraded a brand new Note via Kies to LPY and wiped immediately thereafter has bricked his device.
That being said, I updated via PC Odin, rooted with temp CWM and full wiped from stock recovery thereafter without any issues (so far, been 3-4 days now). The performance improvements that ICS brings are significant, IMHO.
Basically, update if you really want to and refrain from wiping if possible (i.e. if you are not facing any FCs etc).
Good evening!
I've around with Androids for quite some time, and today, I finally got my N7000 to replace my I9100.
I've played around quite a lot with my I9100 and was happy with the CM9 nightlies for it.
I got my N7000 today and did the following:
1. Rooted it with this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719t=1501719
2. Decided to install the latest CM9 nightly. I booted the same CWM from the tutorial above, chose install zip from SD card and... It hang. I left it for about 5 minutes and nada, nothing. I decided to shut if off and...
3. Nada. Black screen, no recovery, no battery charging, no download mode, no nada, nothing. Dead!
I'll take it this week to the nearest Samsung repair center and check how much it's gonna cost to get it fixed (if they can get it fixed at all). I don't intend to use any warranty whatsoever since I know even tough I have not voided the warranty flashing a different kernel, I did messing with it.
I just wish to know what was my mistake, so I do not do it again in the future. AFAIK I did not mess with the bootloader, so I was supposed to be safe, right?
Do I have ANY hope of getting it resurrected?
Any opinion helps!
Thanks!
marcelo.ellmann said:
Good evening!
I've around with Androids for quite some time, and today, I finally got my N7000 to replace my I9100.
I've played around quite a lot with my I9100 and was happy with the CM9 nightlies for it.
I got my N7000 today and did the following:
1. Rooted it with this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719t=1501719
2. Decided to install the latest CM9 nightly. I booted the same CWM from the tutorial above, chose install zip from SD card and... It hang. I left it for about 5 minutes and nada, nothing. I decided to shut if off and...
3. Nada. Black screen, no recovery, no battery charging, no download mode, no nada, nothing. Dead!
I'll take it this week to the nearest Samsung repair center and check how much it's gonna cost to get it fixed (if they can get it fixed at all). I don't intend to use any warranty whatsoever since I know even tough I have not voided the warranty flashing a different kernel, I did messing with it.
I just wish to know what was my mistake, so I do not do it again in the future. AFAIK I did not mess with the bootloader, so I was supposed to be safe, right?
Do I have ANY hope of getting it resurrected?
Any opinion helps!
Thanks!
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ALWAYS flash a GB Kernel or ROM BEFORE flashing a CUSTOM ICS ROM.
Okay. Lesson learned, trust me.
Now here's the part where I feel very stupid: what's a GB kernel? Why is that a requirement for ICS ROMs? Was it not for Gingergread ROMs?
And now here's the second part where I feel even stupidier: doesn't the kernel reside on the ROM/OS part of Android? Why would the kernel, which comes AFTER the bootloader, affect the boot of the Android? Wouldn't it just screw my phone, but wouldn't it still give me the chance of flashing another ROM?
Thanks for the help.
marcelo.ellmann said:
Okay. Lesson learned, trust me.
Now here's the part where I feel very stupid: what's a GB kernel? Why is that a requirement for ICS ROMs? Was it not for Gingergread ROMs?
And now here's the second part where I feel even stupidier: doesn't the kernel reside on the ROM/OS part of Android? Why would the kernel, which comes AFTER the bootloader, affect the boot of the Android? Wouldn't it just screw my phone, but wouldn't it still give me the chance of flashing another ROM?
Thanks for the help.
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Because of an eMMC brick bug!
Anyways to round up, my way of flashing ROMS is flashing a GB Kernel called Abyss 4.2 and then reboot recovery, from then I wipe everything then flash any custom ICS Roms. I've had my Note for almost a week now and found no problems in flashing! But it did take me 2hrs to root doing heavy research but it paid off!
The guide I followed is from here take a few moments to read and understand then you will have no troubles in rooting/flashing again!
hing98 said:
Because ICS has not been officially released on the Galaxy Notes therefore we use a GB Kernel or ROM before we flash any custom ICS ROM.
Yes it was confusing at the start but to avoid bricking you must alwaysfollow the guides given by the Developer!
Anyways to round up, my way of flashing ROMS is flashing a GB Kernel called Abyss 4.2 and then reboot recovery, from then I wipe everything then flash any custom ICS Roms. I've had my Note for almost a week now and found no problems in flashing! But it did take me 2hrs to root doing heavy research but it paid off!
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You may want to recheck your facts....ICS has actually been officially released in many countries......
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stoney73 said:
You may want to recheck your facts....ICS has actually been officially released in many countries......
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Sorry was reading from another guide. Your right
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hing98 said:
Sorry was reading from another guide. Your right
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Anyways its a bug that bricks your device,
you can find more information here
Cheers
I had a galaxy S where flashing process was different Wen u flash CM9 roms and if you want to get back to GB roms only way out was PC Odin and moreover you can wipe on ICS roms and install other roms. But wen i got the note the procedure was slightly different Brickin problems and moreover wen you are in ICS you can get back to GB with GB kernel only no need for PC odin. Just keep a copy of Abyss kernel 4.2 in your sd card and be sure to flash it when changing roms.....
Doesn't Franco rev3+ solve the brick bug?
Hi all,
since you're saying we have *always* to flash a GB kernel before having a factory reset, are you talking about those having the CF/Stock kernel?
I'll make it clear: as far as I know, Franco made a kernel that should avoid the brickage since its 3rd version (thread here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1491428). Who installed this kernel could just wipe from ICS and install any ICS ROM. Am I wrong? If so, please explain the whys.
UNBRICKED!
I too bricked my phone but after reading this guide (ABD wouldn't recognise my device so I couldn't follow it) I understood the partitions had become messed up.
I read somewhere about the PIT files.
I ODINed the ABYSS Kernal and PIT (Q1_20110914_16GB-patched) for my 16gb n7000 ticked the repartition box. It booted into CWM recovery and I used the restore and bingo.
Hey guys:
Ive been doing heaps of reading, and I just want to make sure I have something correct before I go much further.
Im flashing Kings from Paranoid.
From what I understand, certain ICS kernels are no good. So flashing Abyss will ALWAYS make it safe to flash a new, safer kernel, correct? And thats why they recommend doing all of the wipes in Abyss?
The thing that trips me up is Ive heard people say its even safer to go back to GB, but I dont understand why: If the infected kernel is completely gone, it shouldnt matter which Android version, right?
I know Im asking a lot of questions, but I really want to be on the other side of this, being able to help newer people eventually.
Short answer.
If u planning from ics rom go to based cm9 rom, always back to gb and root it then flash thru recovery mode.
If u planning from ics go to ics custom based rom, u cn flash abyss 4.2 kernel, completely reboot into abbyss recovery(touch mode) do full wipe and install your prefer ics custom rom.
For myself, no matter which rom I go, I'm sure will go back gb thru pc odin. Cz I'm prefer clean install. Although the step and time involved will be more and long, But that was the safer way to flashing new rom.
I'm sure you don't want your lovely g.note get hardbrick right?
A lot of flasher able and success without any prob do full wipe with speedmod , cfhain and franco kernel. But this granted for nothing.
Good luck mate.
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Oh cool.
Yeah, one of the things that makes this difficult is that people say 'it worked for me' but I know the chance of an emmc brick is quite low.. so what works for 20 people might not necessarily be safe.
But thanks lee yun khong, Ill just bite the bullet and start flashing the prerooted GB rom before I do anything from now on.
A simple two-step instruction on how to flash pre-rooted GB Roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25285584&postcount=3
nice guide
Hi,
I was quite happily running ICS4.0.4 (rooted) when I decided to try a different ROM (and/or JB - can't even remember any more).
After I did a wipe (I know, I know!!!) it got stuck on the boot logo screen.
I had the phone fixed by a 3rd-party repair shop, who installed ICS4.0.3 on it and, while at the shop, I used the phone a bit to make sure it was ok.
It kept crashing intermittently, so they had another go at it and now they tell me they could only install GB on it.
So, keeping in mind that the phone had the emmc bug and I tripped over it:
Is there anyway I can install ICS again on it?
I could use some of the tools floating around to detect damaged partition blocks and work around them.
What procedure should I use to go from a stock GB (non-root) to ICS?
Specifically,
- is there a safe way to root GB (given the emmc damage already), so that I can flash the other ROM/kernels (below)
- what kernel should I use
- what ROM should I use
I would greatly appreciate any help on this. I have been eating humble pie for a week now, so I hope there is no more 'why didn't you pay attention' coming my way
Cheers
You could use hydracore kernel which works with all GB and ICS ROMs and JB none Tw ROMs I be leave you can flash with PC odin to gain root and is a safe kernel
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ttibbetts83 said:
You could use hydracore kernel which works with all GB and ICS ROMs and JB none Tw ROMs I be leave you can flash with PC odin to gain root and is a safe kernel
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Thanks ttibbetts83, I will try that and see how i go
Thanks Arobase40.
I'll get a strong coffee and read your reply from top to bottom and then plan my next move.
The repair was done by people unrelated to Samsung.
I currently have GB v2.3.5, (SGN_XX_OXA_KJ1_FACTORYFS) which works well, it would seem.
I'd love to get ICS back on it but need to gather info (such as that from yourself) before I do anything.
A bit more info on the state of the emmc storage: Using 'adb shell' and executing the command DD did in fact find bad blocks in partitions 9-11 (can't recall right now exactly which ones), so there are issues there.
The partition that is in place now, __appears__ to have successfully skipped those bad blocks.
And on something slightly tangential to the current topic, I know that doing a 'WIPE DATA' from the recovery menu zaps emmc, but does that also happen when you do a factory reset from within Android? From memory, when doing so, it seems to go into recovery mode and do it, so I'd expect that it'd also damage emmc.
Cheers
arobase said:
As opposed to all alarmist and contradictory posts about eMMC bug on stock Samsung ROM : GB or ICS, I never got any issues with this so called eMMC bug and never got bricked G-Note as long as I kept at using the stock kernel, nevertheless I made various and numerous wipe whichever the ways (from recovery or the settings)...
For rooting, I always used the temporary Touch CWM to flash (which has been may be removed from XDA, I guess as it was supposed to cause bricked devices) anything : superuser, busybox, and other custom ROM... ^^
BUT when I flash a custom ROM, I always removed the custom kernel (so called "safe"), and replace it for a stock kernel and never got issues with it.
The first and last time I flashed a custom with custom kernel I got my G-Note bricked (just forgot the replace the custom kernel for a stock one... ^^) !!!
So, if you want to flash an ICS version, get one from Sammobile, and flash it with PC Odin !
You shouldn't have any problem with them !!!
Get all root and busybox files from dr Ketan, and if you can find it again use the temporary Touch CWM which has NO kernel inside : it WORKS quite fine !!!
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Unfortunately there are no high trees on XDA beause you should look for one before typing this utter personal nonsense that could brick anybody's Gnote.
Taking your own convictions for thruth is one thing, sending innocent ppl into the jungle is another...
What you are saying is: If there is a lightning storm, just go into an open field en enjoy. I cannot say it is 100% safe, but I never got struck....I think they removed the tree i used to seek shelter from the rain, but if you search real hard you might find it anyway.
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amanmasgaman said:
Hi,
I was quite happily running ICS4.0.4 (rooted) when I decided to try a different ROM (and/or JB - can't even remember any more).
After I did a wipe (I know, I know!!!) it got stuck on the boot logo screen.
I had the phone fixed by a 3rd-party repair shop, who installed ICS4.0.3 on it and, while at the shop, I used the phone a bit to make sure it was ok.
It kept crashing intermittently, so they had another go at it and now they tell me they could only install GB on it.
So, keeping in mind that the phone had the emmc bug and I tripped over it:
Is there anyway I can install ICS again on it?
I could use some of the tools floating around to detect damaged partition blocks and work around them.
What procedure should I use to go from a stock GB (non-root) to ICS?
Specifically,
- is there a safe way to root GB (given the emmc damage already), so that I can flash the other ROM/kernels (below)
- what kernel should I use
- what ROM should I use
I would greatly appreciate any help on this. I have been eating humble pie for a week now, so I hope there is no more 'why didn't you pay attention' coming my way
Cheers
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Actually you should be happy that they revived your Note after brick even if it's only running GB for now.
However if you are a brave person you can do the same trick on ICS.
Just read and understand the thread that is a guide on doing so.
You can root your GB without a problem, but there is no obligation for it to install ICS with odin.
However what you do need is the following (besides a lot of patience and courage) :
1. get the ICS files you want to flash including the pit file.
2. get a program called PIT MAGIC to recreate a suitable pit file
3. determine where your bad blocks are located
4. Load the pit file into the magic program and alter the stock pit file
with the values needed to ommit your bad emmc area
5. save it and then flash your note in odin with your newly created pit file and repartition ticked.
@OP: could you please check your internal storage capacity? Is it aroung 8GB?
Arobase we are not going to rediscuss this matter for another 556643 pages.
Just ask yourself : if there was no problem then why did samsung patch their JB kernels for it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34933643&postcount=683
Also nobody asks you to reconsider your own experience and beliefs, but the day someone follows your instructions and bricks his phone, are you going to pay for a new motherboard ?
I'll stop this discussion here, and just hope nobody will get struck under the tree.