I was going to go completely back to stock again from a Gummy ICS rom. I was wondering if I'm going to run into any issues from having my google account linked to the phone under ICS when I actually get back onto Gingerbread.
And FXZing will remove everything right? Internal SD card, root, etc, etc. It takes it back to what it was when I got it out of the box or when they sent the phone replacement to me right?
And one more question, I'm planning on re-rooting, but not put any custom ROMs on the phone again. When and if the Bionic gets the official ICS upgrade, will I need to FXZ it again or will I be able to recieve the OTA update while rooted if I don't remove/freeze any of the stock apps?
Oh, also I have safestrap installed as well, do I need to remove that or will the FXZ get that gone as well?
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I was wondering if I'm going to run into any issues from having my google account linked to the phone under ICS when I actually get back onto Gingerbread.
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There should be no issues.
And FXZing will remove everything right? Internal SD card, root, etc, etc. It takes it back to what it was when I got it out of the box or when they sent the phone replacement to me right?
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Yes. FXZ is a complete wipe of the internal flash memory of the phone. New partitions are re-established. Any factory fresh phone will have recently been FXZ'd so as to be blank and free of traces of previous ownership. The only thing an FXZ will not touch is a MicroSD card, if inserted into the phone.
And one more question, I'm planning on re-rooting, but not put any custom ROMs on the phone again. When and if the Bionic gets the official ICS upgrade, will I need to FXZ it again or will I be able to recieve the OTA update while rooted if I don't remove/freeze any of the stock apps?
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You are correct. As long as all bloat is intact and unfrozen, Motorola's Update.zip files will install properly.
Of note, however, is that an ICS upgrade will certainly break root so make sure that there's an ICS root method available before taking the OTA for it.
Oh, also I have safestrap installed as well, do I need to remove that or will the FXZ get that gone as well?
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FXZ's scrub the entire contents of the phone. That will get removed.
Thanks. Just wanted to be sure before I did it so I didn't screw up the phone.
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Current phone information should be attached. Short form is, I'm using the Gummi 1.2.0 rom, put onto my phone after using safestrap (and following the instructions to make a backup before doing so). Safesystem is enabled.
Two backups: located on my external SD card
nonsafe-2012-05-26.07.52.54/
safe-2012-05-27.08.06.28/
Safestrap recovery v1.09 (afraid to update to 2.0 without breaking more stuff)
What I'm looking to do is return my phone to working stock, which I believe was Gingerbread 2.3.6. That said, every time I've touched this thing trying to go back, I've black screened it. I don't live in an area with 4g (screw the mountains, and their 1x service), so any attempts to connect to the 4g network for any part of the process will require me driving into Pennsylvania, 30 minutes away. I've heard before that you can't return from the ICS leak to the Stock for the Droid 4, for various reasons (but i believe the important one was it was a later firmware and it isn't a process designed to go backwards)
I'd like to know if thats still the case currently, or if something has changed. I'm getting shaky wifi/data/cell reception up here, and its flawless back on stock. Hell, I've got an old razor as an emergency phone that's flawless up here. Next time I'll do more research for this stuff I was a proud OG droid owner, and ran cyanogenmod on it before the vid card fried one evening. Thought the droid 4 would be a good deal, but I've had nothing but trouble with the roms on it.
All that said, I can simply smash and return this droid if its the only way to get a stock one back, but I don't like destroying useful and good technology when I can help it. Besides, I like fixing the problems I create.
Thanks for the help XDA, either way.
-- TheChaoticDoctor
Did you flash the leak ICS from Motorola or did you use Safestrap and flash Gummy ICS?
If you flashed the leaked ICS, there is no going back. You will need to find get the files to flash the partial .219 system back so you can run the .206 leak update again.
If you just used safestrap to flash Gummy 1.2.0 then you can use the .219 flash files to completely re-do your phone.
Currently there are no ROMs to flash if you are on the leak, Hashcode just released his Safestrap 2.0 to do so but still nothing to flash. All the current ICS ROM builds are for the stock phone running the Gingerbread Kernel.
Sorry about the delay, was off camping. I rooted the phone first on gingerbread, then eventually installed safestrap and flashed the gummi rom. Can you (or someone else) walk me through the steps for flashing the .219 files and then flashing the .206 files?
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Sorry about the delay, was off camping. I rooted the phone first on gingerbread, then eventually installed safestrap and flashed the gummi rom. Can you (or someone else) walk me through the steps for flashing the .219 files and then flashing the .206 files?
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You should probably go up to .208, that's the latest leak. Make sure to use rootkeeper, and follow all the instructions. So far I haven't lost root, but be aware I'm stuck on .206 because I don't want to lose root....
Look here for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26311439
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First of all, it sounds to me like you've just flashed a ROM, not flashed the leak. If that is the case, you can just toggle the safe mode in safestrap to get back to stock. Safestrap lets you toggle between stock and the ROM. It is pretty awesome because you can play with the ROM and then go back to stock whenever you need to.
If you HAVE flashed the Motorola leak (as opposed to just a ROM) you are SOL.
If you haven't flashed the Motorola leak and just want to get back to factory conditions, you'll have to flash via RSDLite. That info you should be able to find here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622256
Honestly I WOULD NOT flash the leak at this time. IMHO, it doesn't really offer enough to risk getting off the upgrade path forever, and losing the ability to flash back via RSDLite.
Yesterday i flashed if i remember the 223 leak. I flashed from 905, rooted with razor ics root. I went in to sqlite and changed the setting to get the free hotspot and than rebooted. Now on my top banner the wifi icon and my signal icon stay gray! They never got to blue! I have data service but the are always gray. Also later my signal strength went noticeably lower than before i flashed! Any help would be great! ...... also i just noticed that my browser is talking! Had chrome installed, couldn't find anything in the settings so i uninstalled and went to reinstall. Play store says that NOW its not compatible with my device! And now my stock browser is talking to me! PLEASE HELP!!!!!!
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One thing at a tine.
Browser talking - check you're accessibility settings, see if Talkback is enabled.
For the GNow, that does not come with the ICS leaks. Either you installed an unofficial leak, or you installed GNow before the leak, or you installed it after the leak. There is a thread in XDA that details how to get GNow working in ICS.
For the sqlite mod, change the string back. Foxfi is free, doesn't require root, and works.
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Thanks, I FXZed back and reloaded everything no sqlite no root and everything seems good! Still lost data for a while last night but l don't have great service at home! Might root later today, we'll see!
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I do have one more question! If i go from .233 can i just flash .235 or do i need to FXZ again?
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Each time you try to flash a new ics leak you HAVE TO FLASH BACK TO 902/905
if you flash to 235 YOU CAN NOT FLASH BACK TO 902/905 but you can only move foward
I recommend you stay on 232 unless you dont care about flashing back to gb
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Each time you try to flash a new ics leak you HAVE TO FLASH BACK TO 902/905
if you flash to 235 YOU CAN NOT FLASH BACK TO 902/905 but you can only move foward
I recommend you stay on 232 unless you dont care about flashing back to gb
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If people are going to keep stating this, then they need to qualify it with the fact that you can still install GB roms on the safe side. You can even put .905 stock back on safe or unsafe using the backup restore within Safestrap (if you have the stock .905 backup file that is). There's a lot of scare about .235, but all you have to do is change how you flash and you don't "lose" anything. **Wonder if I will have to make another tutorial for people on .235...goodness**
What? We have a locked boot loader... can't run .235 on one side and .905 on the other lol
What he said was correct.. you cannot use RSD lite to fxz back to .902/.905 with .235 so unless you're a fool don't make the move... 232 is great
Finally Iced Out Legitimately... Bionic is back
You cannot go back to fully stock Gingerbread anything once you flash .235 so for the sake of newer users being thrown off the upgrade path and not being able to FXZ back to .905 we all should just leave it at that.
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I do have one more question! If i go from .233 can i just flash .235 or do i need to FXZ again?
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I think you've gotten the gist of the info, but I'll reiterate.
You have to be on .905 to flash any of the current ICS leaks (and there is a 99% chance of that being true with any future leaks / soak tests / final OTA b/c .905 is the current official OS version for the BIONIC.
You can flash .235 off of .905, but once you are in .235, you cannot restore your phone to .905 via FXZ, and you cannot try to fool the system with a simple Nandroid backup of .905 that you restore over .235. The reason is that the update script also looks to patch several things.
First of all, no update script ever includes the boot.img of the version that is being installed. It includes a patch file that requires you to have either the boot.img of the system that you are coming from, or the system that you are going to. Any other version and it throws up an error and does not allow the update to continue. IOW, if, say, leak .241 comes out, and you're on .235, you have no way to getting .241 without using a method to make the .241 kernel. You cannot flash the .905 kernel onto a .235 system - it trips eFuse and bricks the phone. You have no .241 kernel to install b/c, as I said, the update only includes a patch file, not the full kernel.
Second, even provide that you pass that (which in theory you might as you are on a .235 leak with only .905 /system restored from a Nandroid backup, and if the new leak uses the exact same kernel you'll pass), it also verifies every file in /system that it is going to patch, along with every file in /preinstall that you are going to patch. Restoring that Nandroid backup does wonders for having the .905 /system on your phone, but the current leak you are on has already patched several files in /preinstall, so those signatures will not match, and you'll fail the verification step, and ultimately the update will fail.
For the record, a typical FXZ flashes 17 different partitions on our phones. Nandroid backups on the BIONIC typically can only make backups of 3-4 of those partitions. We have figured out ways to grab a few more of them, but we are still stuck at grabbing a couple of them, and there are 4-5 that we cannot grab from our phones at all.
Since the folks with RAZRs went through something very similar in May and June, mattlgroff figured out a way to fool the update into thinking you have all the components correct in place that need to be there, and the update proceeds. Thus far, after bricking my phone trying to FXZ back to .905 / .902, I used a script to get back on .235, then verified that the move to reinstall the .235 leak works. If another leak is found, then I can test the second part of the script, that which allows new leaks to be installed. The script does not allow any older ICS leak to be installed, and currently there is no way to go back to a previous leak nor a previous GB stock FXZ at all. Even if we had a .223X ICS FXZ or a .22X ICS FXZ or a .230/.232 FXZ, they would not work on a phone that has been updated to .235.
That is why we're saying hold off unless you're 100% positive you're willing to accept the risk - this is way beyond the risk associated with rooting your phone. If Motorola makes the next leak force the phone to have components from .905 that we cannot flash into a .235 upgraded phone, I (and several others that have taken the plunge) might be permanently stuck on .235 until an FXZ for a version of ICS higher than or equal to .235 is released. And that typically takes 6-8 weeks.
HTH
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If people are going to keep stating this, then they need to qualify it with the fact that you can still install GB roms on the safe side. You can even put .905 stock back on safe or unsafe using the backup restore within Safestrap (if you have the stock .905 backup file that is). There's a lot of scare about .235, but all you have to do is change how you flash and you don't "lose" anything. **Wonder if I will have to make another tutorial for people on .235...goodness**
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Make a guide if you will and state the proper steps to do so
I had one issue with. 232. I noticed the lock screen is useless. My home button unlicked the screen plus the notification bar scrolled down to unlock also lol. Other that that it amazing
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I had one issue with. 232. I noticed the lock screen is useless. My home button unlicked the screen plus the notification bar scrolled down to unlock also lol. Other that that it amazing
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i noticed that the other day when I got a text while my screen was locked. I naturally pulled the notification bar down and noticed that I didn't unlock my phone at first. Tried it just now and it's unlocking without swiping to unlock. My home button doesn't do anything howerver.
I was attempting to flash the stock att firmware via rsd and have deleted the stock rom from safestrap recovery in the process. I would like to get back to stock rom (ATT). I can boot in safestrap and currently have golden rom on another rom slot but need to get back to stock firmware or stock rom as im selling the phone atrix HD.
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I was attempting to flash the stock att firmware via rsd and have deleted the stock rom from safestrap recovery in the process. I would like to get back to stock rom (ATT). I can boot in safestrap and currently have golden rom on another rom slot but need to get back to stock firmware or stock rom as im selling the phone atrix HD.
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I can inbox you a link to my restore, note: I have personal files, so I'm going to trust you'll delete the data partition. Tell me if your interested.
Maybachiswhereitsat said:
I can inbox you a link to my restore, note: I have personal files, so I'm going to trust you'll delete the data partition. Tell me if your interested.
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Thats amazingly generous of you, but I was able to upgrade RSD lite and flash the stock firmware. Again, i greatly appreciate your help.
No problem, glad you could fix your phone.
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Is your AT&T ROM image still available?
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No problem, glad you could fix your phone.
Hi, I have an Atrix HD with Batakang in slot 1 and of course the stock AT&T ROM in, well, the Stock slot. I have Safestrap 3.11. I wanted to unlock the phone for int'l use, and it simply would not give me the prompt to enter the unlock code (said "Invalid SIM" or something like that), so I left it with an AT&T dealer because the process should have been simple, but wasn't.
They couldn't do it either, but when I got the phone back, the entire 8GB ROM space was wiped! Batakang was gone, the Stock slot is empty, and unfortunately, the Safestrap backup I made of Stock (and left on the internal SD) was gone too!
I did have a Batakang backup which restored fine, I entered the unlock code OK in it (I assume that worked - there was no confirmation message), but still have an empty AT&T stock slot.
What ROM images I've found are not compatible with Safestrap, so what I'm looking for is either a Safestrap backup or a zip installer compatible with Safestrap, or any other suggestions appreciated! Thanks!
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So its been awhile since I flashed a ROM to my BIONIC. That was back before ICS was even released for the BIONIC. So I started looking at updating to one of the more stable ROMS that has way better performance that this stock one. Currently I have 6.7.232 on my phone and I would like advice on which ROMs are best for this device. I have looked into some such as Gameblur, Raging Bionic, and Icarus HD. Thus far I havent really decided on one but I have noticed that some of them are on Jelly Bean. I am not sure if I have to return to the OTA path to update to any of these. I also have Safestrap 3.11 installed. Any advice would be appreciated. thanks.
Any help out there?? Thanks.
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I have looked into some such as Gameblur, Raging Bionic, and Icarus HD. Thus far I havent really decided on one but I have noticed that some of them are on Jelly Bean. I am not sure if I have to return to the OTA path to update to any of these. I also have Safestrap 3.11 installed. Any advice would be appreciated. thanks.
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Well Gameblur and Raging Bionic both require one to be on the 98.72.22 Moto 4.1.2 Jellybean update. Incarus HD however is ICS base and can be flashed with your current setup.
If you are destine to update your stock side I would first prep what you currently have on there right now. See this HERE for getting stuff ready.
I would backup anything on the internal storage before hand and make sure that you have a full battery.
You will find the proper FXZ files HERE. If you are on 6.7.2-223 update then use the one for 4.0.4. It would be easier to root again through the update process. After you have completed the restore processes and root through the HOB. Make sure you have VooDoo Root Keeper installed on your phone to back up Root and to disable Root. Then with a good Data connection you are going to take the update Via OTA. Once the update is complete and you are fully booted up. Use VooDoo to restore your Root and test using root explore or NoFrills CPU.
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See this HERE for getting stuff ready.
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The link provided there has a post from the OP that states House of Bionic is discontinued and to use House of Moto. Should I do that?
Secondly I havent for sure decided which Rom I will be moving to. I feel that the interface I have been using is kinda laggy. I installed Next launcher to see if that made a difference and it was more responsive but still my system memory usage skyrockets after a couple hours and sometimes the only way to resolve it is to restart the device. Any recommendations as to which Rom I should move to?
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The link provided there has a post from the OP that states House of Bionic is discontinued and to use House of Moto. Should I do that?
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You can try using the House of Moto stuff also depending on what you feel more comfortable on using. The HOM was desighned to have one interface for all Moto devices instead of each having its own individual setup. I would still use HOB for your purpose only because I don't know if he added in the script to root the device, which was made for ICS versions not JB hence the discontinued portion of it.
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Secondly I havent for sure decided which Rom I will be moving to. I feel that the interface I have been using is kinda laggy. I installed Next launcher to see if that made a difference and it was more responsive but still my system memory usage skyrockets after a couple hours and sometimes the only way to resolve it is to restart the device. Any recommendations as to which Rom I should move to?
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I have tested and played around with a lot of different ROMs and tweaks to find the one that I am ultimately satisfied with. Flying Jelly, well the name speaks for itself, Rage, and GameBlur (which I had minor help in) all work fine for there purpose.. One must pick and choose which one suits there purpose. So my suggestion would be to install SafeStrap 3.60, which is the latest updated one, and create a few slots and run each the same as you would Stock or any other firmware to measure which one suits your needs.....
In a previous post you wrote "If you are on 6.7.2-223 update then use the one for 4.0.4.". I went to the FXZ site and it shows that the 4.04 rom has version 6.7.223 on it already. I already have root. Why would I need to install the same version again and reinstall root to get on the OTA. I just want to make sure I understand this to avoid making mistakes. Thanks.
Then if you feel confedent that all will go well then just install Voodoo to backup and disable root. Take the OTA update and see if it will install. The most that will happen is that if it detects that something is missing from the current firmware you have the installation process will fail and reboot back into what you currently have. At that point you will have to FXZ your stock back to the way it was installed originally, root, then backup root and disable, then take the OTA. ICS is way easier to root then JB. I have kept Root before via OTA when I got it, so I know it Voodoo will keep the backup and install it..
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Then if you feel confedent that all will go well then just install Voodoo to backup and disable root. Take the OTA update and see if it will install. The most that will happen is that if it detects that something is missing from the current firmware you have the installation process will fail and reboot back into what you currently have. At that point you will have to FXZ your stock back to the way it was installed originally, root, then backup root and disable, then take the OTA. ICS is way easier to root then JB. I have kept Root before via OTA when I got it, so I know it Voodoo will keep the backup and install it..
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I think I miscommunicated what my question was. The instructions say to install the FXZ for the 4.0.4 that has the same version of Android OS that is currently installed. the further instructions say to install the OTA from verizon but everytime I check for an update nothing shows up on my phone. Where else can I get the OTA?
In addition I want to know what I should do about safestrap. Should I remove it before installing the OTA or is it fine to leave as is when I go to install the OTA?
OK... If you cannot even get Big Red to send you the update. You can fxz the update, but at that point you will loose root, but have the option to keep your current data. Go see House of Moto or House of Bionic over at droidrazr.com
As far as Safestrap I would just uninstall recovery through the app the reboot so it clears out before the fxz process.
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fyi I think he took House of Bionic down, didn't see a link. I can however attest that House of Moto worked perfectly fine. Flashed fresh .232 and VZW sent me the OTA (I tried voodoo rootkeeper before updating). I did lose root despite following all of the steps. To get it back your best bet is to boot up a live Ubuntu disc. I tried the VM that someone compiled but it kept failing.
PS: nobe1976, how the hell did you fit 3 ROMS on your phone? I can only fit one ROM (besides obviously stock). Wish we could install ROMs through safestrap to SD (internal or external).
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fyi I think he took House of Bionic down, didn't see a link. I can however attest that House of Moto worked perfectly fine. Flashed fresh .232 and VZW sent me the OTA (I tried voodoo rootkeeper before updating). I did lose root despite following all of the steps. To get it back your best bet is to boot up a live Ubuntu disc. I tried the VM that someone compiled but it kept failing.
PS: nobe1976, how the hell did you fit 3 ROMS on your phone? I can only fit one ROM (besides obviously stock). Wish we could install ROMs through safestrap to SD (internal or external).
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This is the Exploit I have been using the past few days.. HERE.
However Samuri didn't remove the HOB site, He just doesn't maintain it as much since HOM. Here is the LINK to that f needed.
I have a Tmobile phone, but I have a rooted kernel, is there a way I could just flash a stock kernel through recovery and be done with root but keep from wiping all my data? Also links to such kernels would be appreciated, cause I'm not sure which to use.
You have to have a custom recovery installed via ODIN
Download stock firmware (there are several places around here to find it, and if you can't you can get it at Sammobile.com)
Boot into custom recovery and wipe all partitions EXCEPT INTERNAL STORAGE
Boot into download mode DIRECTLY FROM RECOVERY
flash stock firmware via ODIN
Profit
My apologies, but this will wipe my phone, I just want to replace the kernel with a non rooted version, not that firmware.
RighteousJoe said:
My apologies, but this will wipe my phone, I just want to replace the kernel with a non rooted version, not that firmware.
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It will wipe your apps and settings (SMS conversations), but all of your personal data (Photos, movies, music) will still be there and the firmware includes the stock kernel.
As far as I know, this is the only way to revert to stock without losing all your data. I don't think you can simply flash a stock kernel, though I could be way off on that one. This method is how I reverted to stock.
Yeah I appreciate your input, but I have certain needs with the current data on my phone I can't part with yet. But hopefully somebody knows of a way, Thank you.
RighteousJoe said:
Yeah I appreciate your input, but I have certain needs with the current data on my phone I can't part with yet. But hopefully somebody knows of a way, Thank you.
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You can backup all of the data you need. Since all of your internal storage will be untouched, you won't need to back that up, but if you need your SMS and call logs and whatnot that stuff can all be backed up. What data do you need exactly?
I have certain game data, that I need lol.
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You can backup all of the data you need. Since all of your internal storage will be untouched, you won't need to back that up, but if you need your SMS and call logs and whatnot that stuff can all be backed up. What data do you need exactly?
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Hi,
after you reverted back to stock, will you be able to receive and apply official OTAs?
xijun824 said:
Hi,
after you reverted back to stock, will you be able to receive and apply official OTAs?
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Yes, however most, if not all of the ROM devs are going to update their ROMs to Marshmallow fairly quickly.