Unrooting ICS rom - bad idea? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello all,
I am currently running Slim ICS on my captivate and have a question. My new job allows me to install McAfee Mobile to connect to my corporate email server. Only issue is it won't install on a 'rogue' (I.e. rooted) (their words, not mine) device.
My question is, would it adversely effect me to unroot my device? I realize things like root explorer and titanium backup won't work, but are there any deeper implications other than loosing access to those apps?
Lastly, from what I've looked at the one click unrooting apps won't work if busy box is installed, or something lime that. Slim ICS comes with busy box, is that an issue? If so are there other procedures I can follow?
Or perhaps I need to return to stock. I'm wondering if corporate email is worth it...

I know CM9 allows you to disable it through settings. I can't think of any implications whatsoever. I feel like there's a way to trick the app into thinking you're not rooted. Pretty sure it's been done before
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I think you will need unrooted stock. Which sucks. Do you travel and need to see your email while off WiFi? Is your laptop too heavy? I use only Calendar syncing - for reminders and dialing up to calls. Emails and Gmails are too painful to view and read.

The primary reason for me wanting to do this is so I can sync my calendar... As events come up at work I would love to just throw them into Outlook and have them show up on my phone, or vice-versa.
I tried to install Google Sync on my work computer but alas it was denied as I was not an administrator. Perhaps I just have to suck it up and try to put things in both my Outlook and Google calendars.... Unless someone has any other suggestions?

If you cannot sync with Google - you are screwed. Still check any portable apps which don't need install.
Stock ROM is not bad. As long as you have "Unknown source" checked and can have any apps...

bravomail said:
Stock ROM is not bad.
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It's no ICS, though... Thanks, I'll take a look for some portable syncing apps, any that spring to mind?

Have you tried that app, I think it's ota root keeper or something like that. It can disable root temp, and bring it back when you're done
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screwyluie said:
Have you tried that app, I think it's ota root keeper or something like that. It can disable root temp, and bring it back when you're done
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I'll take a look, however my guess would be this app constantly monitors whether or not a device is rooted. I may just go back to stock or give up completely, lol.

Most of these kind of apps just look for the su app. Remove that and they often work, which I think is basically what ota root keeper does
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screwyluie said:
Most of these kind of apps just look for the su app. Remove that and they often work, which I think is basically what ota root keeper does
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Interesting. You're referring to /system/xbin/su? Or the superuser app? Both?

andeke07 said:
Hello all,
I am currently running Slim ICS on my captivate and have a question. My new job allows me to install McAfee Mobile to connect to my corporate email server. Only issue is it won't install on a 'rogue' (I.e. rooted) (their words, not mine) device.
My question is, would it adversely effect me to unroot my device? I realize things like root explorer and titanium backup won't work, but are there any deeper implications other than loosing access to those apps?
Lastly, from what I've looked at the one click unrooting apps won't work if busy box is installed, or something lime that. Slim ICS comes with busy box, is that an issue? If so are there other procedures I can follow?
Or perhaps I need to return to stock. I'm wondering if corporate email is worth it...
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Being on ics itself sounds rogue since it isn't stock. You probably need to go back to stock
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[Q] How does one set local country in any ROM?

Hi there.
Question: Custom ROMs not from Canada do not show Canadian only apps such as TD Mobile app (bank app). How does one set the local country so that the Market can detect the proper country?
I recently downloaded Rodrigaz MIUI ROM, and it's really great, except now I can't find my TD Mobile app. I called the bank and said that my phone or phone software is has to be set for Canada. Somehow if I flash my stock ROM it will show Canadian only apps, but some of these ROMs don't.
You're help is appreciated.
-Havoc
I have no problem finding the app using Cyanogen. The Market finds the app based on the fact that I use a Canadian Sim. However the TD app is also protected, which means you won't find it if the fingerprint in your build.prop isn't on Google's white list.
That being said, while you're figuring this out, you can access TD's mobile banking at this URL:
tinyurl.com/tdtouch
Bookmark it
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Use Market Access.
Well if I use Cyanogen or the Desire HD port, it not only shows the canadian TD app but also shows the prices in canadian funds with a CA symbol. But any MIUI roms don't. I figured it might be a setting in the build.prop that I could change, but I lack the knowledge of locating such property.
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Mokurex said:
Use Market Access.
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Market Access won't let you see protected apps. TD is a protected app.
xoltrix2000 said:
Well if I use Cyanogen or the Desire HD port, it not only shows the canadian TD app but also shows the prices in canadian funds with a CA symbol. But any MIUI roms don't. I figured it might be a setting in the build.prop that I could change, but I lack the knowledge of locating such property.
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Try searching for some of the following protected apps:
Fruit Ninja
A Online Radio
Paperdroid Pro
(not sure if they are still protected but they were the last time I checked)
Do you see any of them? If not, your problem is with protected apps, not with location.
In any case, one simple solution to test: Next time you're trying out Cyanogen, make a backup of the build.prop. Rename your MIUI build.prop to build.bak and paste in the one from CM6. Fix the permissions to what they were before. Then reboot and see what you get in the Market.
Thanks for the reply, I searched for these apps and they're there. About the build.prop, wouldn't mixing from another rom have compatibility issues?
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xoltrix2000 said:
Thanks for the reply, I searched for these apps and they're there. About the build.prop, wouldn't mixing from another rom have compatibility issues?
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It could be a problem, don't know. There's only one way to find out... I say take a nandroid backup of your status quo before making the changes. If it fails to boot you can do a nandroid restore.
Strange that you see protected apps but not TD. The standard method of identifying your country for the Market is usually based on the SIM. Maybe MIUI overrides this.
I tried using Cyanogen's build.prop file today and it still doesn't show the TD mobile app
I'm at a loss.
Okay well at least there's a workaround: install it from Cyanogen, Titanium Backup, and restore that app to MIUI
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Oh, you mean adb pull it from there? I can try that.
I thought I'd mention that a lot of Google search results seem to point to a "fingerprint" or "footprint" feature of the software to indicate what region/country, which is what them protected apps seem to look for. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
You may not be able to adb pull the TD app from your CM6 or stock installation as it's a protected app. But when you back up a protected app with Titanium, it transforms it into an unprotected .apk file... if you reinstall it using Titanium from MIUI it will go back into protected space; or you can browse to the folder and manually install the apk, which will install it as an unprotected app.

[Q] Nook Color can't run certain apps that shouldn't require cell network, but do?

I don't know if this is a problem related to the recent patch for ROM Manager, but I upgraded that app and it didn't fix it, so...
Anyway, I have two apps giving me fits right now:
Amazon's new MP3 Cloud player for Android, and "Good (for Enterprise)", which is a corporate email reader.
Both apps complain that my cell network isn't enabled. Both apps should work find over WiFi, and they are communicating with their servers in some capacity, because they are able to tell the difference between a valid login and an invalid one. But once I enter a valid login, they both complain that I need to enable my cell network.
Any suggestions?
Apps from Amazon require a connection to Amazon in order to work...
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danger-rat said:
Apps from Amazon require a connection to Amazon in order to work...
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I'm not sure what you mean. I'm on WiFi, and I can connect to Amazon's web page fine. But when I login to the app using my amazon account, it complains about not being connected to a cell network. Why would it care if I'm on wifi?
Do you have the phone.apk telephony.apk and mms.apk renamed or removed by chance? The app could just be looking for those.
Ahhhhh, I see...
You mean like this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012992
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Running Phiremod 5.3, no probs with Amazon MP3 Cloudplayer or Amazon Appstore.
woot1524 said:
Do you have the phone.apk telephony.apk and mms.apk renamed or removed by chance? The app could just be looking for those.
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I haven't done anything like this on purpose. I'm running the stock ROM with eclair and rooted via autonooter. Can I check for them using a file manager or ADB?
Ran into the same problem when I tried running the Yelp app on my Nook Color. Kept crashing on the install. After passing emails and logs back and forth with Yelp it turns out it crashing when it's looking for a phone, even though I'm on wifi.
He said they'd fix it in the next major release.
Robert

[Q] Amazon App will not install...

I read on the amazon website that Amazon App Store is compatible with Captivates running 2.2 or greater. I am running 2.2 yet when i try to install the app the phones tells me that "it has been set to block non-android market apps."
I do not have the option to "allow non-market apps" under the Application tab under settings.
What must I do to install the app?
Superoneclick, search for it.
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Have you checked for software updates from att? They supposedly released an ota that enabled 3rd party apps.
Your on stock froyo from the sound of it, you can use the sideload wonder machine. just look it up
Att should be pushing an update that allows you to install non market apps
Amazon will not install...
Kothejunglist said:
I read on the amazon website that Amazon App Store is compatible with Captivates running 2.2 or greater. I am running 2.2 yet when i try to install the app the phones tells me that "it has been set to block non-android market apps."
I do not have the option to "allow non-market apps" under the Application tab under settings.
What must I do to install the app?
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Same thing happened to me...missed the OTA update from AT&T. Sent them a nicely worded email explaining the issue from the Support section on the AT&T website. Got a response in less than 24 hours informing me that they had pushed the update to my phone. I powered down/up & am now sideloading not only from Amazon but from anywhere else I want. Give it a shot...
PS: If you're not the adventurous type & don't want to flash ROMs, etc. AT&T just announced (& I believe them this time!) Gingerbread will be available for U.S. Captivate users by the end of the summer.
cappysw10 said:
Superoneclick, search for it.
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yup, thats what i used in my n00bian days. its much easier then the command prompt way to enable side loading. Wish i would have know about it much sooner

[Q] Bionic and CarrierIQ

O.K. Wearing my tinfoil hat. Looked and couldn't find the processes that might operate this rootkit on my Bionic, but I really can't be certain what I am looking for.
The HTC versions were IQAgent and IQRD. Nothing similar that I have found, but I'll bet they are there somewhere.
Anyone found anything?
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/11/secret-software-logging-video
RMD
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I've heard that it could be disguised as Contacts Sync and ContactsData. They have the same icon (although that doesn't mean much).
I haven't been able to determine if its the same thing or not.
Anyone able to confirm that the Bionic is CarrierIQ free?
I tried the Logging test tool, but if they renamed the app it won't work.
Either way, this thing is going to cause such a lawsuit with huge repercussion. (which they deserve)
railmaster7 said:
I've heard that it could be disguised as Contacts Sync and ContactsData. They have the same icon (although that doesn't mean much).
I haven't been able to determine if its the same thing or not.
Anyone able to confirm that the Bionic is CarrierIQ free?
I tried the Logging test tool, but if they renamed the app it won't work.
Either way, this thing is going to cause such a lawsuit with huge repercussion. (which they deserve)
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Likewise, I ran the "CIQ Checks" test in the "Logging Test App" by xda member TrevE mentioned in this article as a reliable way of testing for the presence of CIQ: http://lifehacker.com/5863895/carri...everything-on-your-phone-and-how-to-remove-it The test completed running and nothing showed up in the "CIQ File List" so I'm assuming the Bionic is clean.
I don't think the Contacts Sync and ContactsData icons are a reliable way to test for CIQ. Found this on another site: "The icon is a default icon, not specific to Carrier IQ. It can't help you determine whether or not CIQ is present."
After all the latest news about the rootkit that is allowing apps to bypass requests and can track what you're doing on the phone, I have found that particular app on our Bionics.
First, read this article:
http://www.helloandroid.com/content/are-carriers-illegally-tapping-your-android-phone
Next, go to settings, applications, manage applications, all applications tab, and look for the Fake Blur app. I am rooted and rommed and noticed that I still have this app. Is it something that we should be worried about? Has anyone tried uninstalling it and seeing if the phone still works without it?
Well, for whatever it's worth:
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/2602532/verizon-carrier-iq-denial
So that would seem to strongly support the idea that the Bionic lacks CIQ.
Reverence12389 said:
After all the latest news about the rootkit that is allowing apps to bypass requests and can track what you're doing on the phone, I have found that particular app on our Bionics.
First, read this article:
http://www.helloandroid.com/content/are-carriers-illegally-tapping-your-android-phone
Next, go to settings, applications, manage applications, all applications tab, and look for the Fake Blur app. I am rooted and rommed and noticed that I still have this app. Is it something that we should be worried about? Has anyone tried uninstalling it and seeing if the phone still works without it?
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I'm tempted to use TB to remove this completely from my phone... and it's present in Liberty v2.0
Stories said:
I'm tempted to use TB to remove this completely from my phone... and it's present in Liberty v2.0
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It's present in Shifter rom also. I was going to uninstall it using TB, but it seems like it might stop something from working, because when I attempted to force stop the application and went back to my homescreens, it was like I had just turned the phone on and they were sluggish.
Reverence12389 said:
It's present in Shifter rom also. I was going to uninstall it using TB, but it seems like it might stop something from working, because when I attempted to force stop the application and went back to my homescreens, it was like I had just turned the phone on and they were sluggish.
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I froze it with titanium a few hours ago and hadn't had any issues or FC's yet. I'm running Purity.

[Q] What update broke Usage Manager?

Usage Manager app (built-in/stock) used to work.
It no longer does. When I tap it, the screen briefly flashes dark (like it was opening), and then it instantly closes. No error message is shown.
I'm running Rooted Stock MI9 (rooted with RDLV - MJ5 doesn't seem to have anything I want that justifies risking breaking a working setup), with Wanam, TiBu, Light Manager (paid), Keyboard Manager (to use hacker keyboard with terminal and ssh, and swype everywhere else), and Pen Window manager, plus some really boring, typical apps. No games, nothing other than the listed apps that does anything exotic.
It stopped working some time during the last several weeks. I have changed no settings during this time. The only app I have installed is Light Manager Pro (I previously used the free version, until a paid one came out), and I doubt this is the problem, but I have run normal app updates.
Anyone know what it is that causes this issue? I can still get to the battery and data usage screens from settings. It's just usage manager that doesn't seem to work.
Stock MJ5, lots of other apps, no games or weird stuff. Never had Usage Manager on the screen, but I put it on now and it works. Did you try removing it and reinstalling it? (I know widgets sometimes get screwed up and you have to redo them, I've never seen it with an app, but maybe?)
Rukbat said:
Stock MJ5, lots of other apps, no games or weird stuff. Never had Usage Manager on the screen, but I put it on now and it works. Did you try removing it and reinstalling it? (I know widgets sometimes get screwed up and you have to redo them, I've never seen it with an app, but maybe?)
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Is there also a widget form of Usage Manager? I'm just using the app.
I can't remove/reinstall it, I don't think - it's a stock app, and doesn't show in application manager...
In any event, I suspect it's one of the root apps that's breaking it. But I don't know which one or what needs to be done to make them play well together.
DrAzzy said:
Is there also a widget form of Usage Manager?
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No, sorry if it sounded like that. I just installed the app from the long-press on the screen.
I can't remove/reinstall it, I don't think - it's a stock app, and doesn't show in application manager...
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Long-press the icon on the screen and you can remove the icon on the screen. Then reinstall the screen icon.
What I meant about widgets is that I've had widgets do weird things and by removing and reinstalling them, they worked again.
Rukbat said:
No, sorry if it sounded like that. I just installed the app from the long-press on the screen.
Long-press the icon on the screen and you can remove the icon on the screen. Then reinstall the screen icon.
What I meant about widgets is that I've had widgets do weird things and by removing and reinstalling them, they worked again.
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Oh, I've done that already - doesn't work.
It also closes instantly when launched from apps screen.
No bueno, How about unrooting, asking for a warranty swap and living with MJ5? Or isn't having the link on the desktop worth the drive? I think for a little thing like that I'd just live with it. I save my fights for nuclear war (like an OTA bootlooping the phone).
Rukbat said:
No bueno, How about unrooting, asking for a warranty swap and living with MJ5? Or isn't having the link on the desktop worth the drive? I think for a little thing like that I'd just live with it. I save my fights for nuclear war (like an OTA bootlooping the phone).
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Well that escalated quickly....
This is clearly a software problem. I think it unconscionable and selfish to return known-good hardware for a software problem, because then the cost of this bogus warranty return gets passed on to everyone else (in other words, you and I). I choose not to make the world worse for every other AT&T customer (we suffer enough) to get one app that I am almost certainly responsible for breaking working again.
I'm sure I could fix it by reflashing stock, but I don't really want to do that, because it's so much work to get everything set back up. I was asking in the hopes that someone has seen this before.
Anyone know if there's a way to "reset app data" like you can for most apps, on the usage manager app?
I have pretty much the same setup except I'm on MI9 and don't have that keyboard setup you have. Mine does the same thing. Never could find out what broke it. Sure would like it back though.
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I must stand corrected. I had the same fc issues last week with usage manager. Tried putting the shortcut back on home screen and messed with it for about a hour trying to find what broke it. Finally gave up. Just tried it now and it functions just fine. Oh well. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
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DrAzzy said:
Well that escalated quickly....
This is clearly a software problem. I think it unconscionable and selfish to return known-good hardware for a software problem, because then the cost of this bogus warranty return gets passed on to everyone else (in other words, you and I). I choose not to make the world worse for every other AT&T customer (we suffer enough) to get one app that I am almost certainly responsible for breaking working again.
I'm sure I could fix it by reflashing stock, but I don't really want to do that, because it's so much work to get everything set back up. I was asking in the hopes that someone has seen this before.
Anyone know if there's a way to "reset app data" like you can for most apps, on the usage manager app?
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What about using TiBU to restore the app data from a previous backup?
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Same thing here
DrAzzy said:
Usage Manager app (built-in/stock) used to work.
It no longer does. When I tap it, the screen briefly flashes dark (like it was opening), and then it instantly closes. No error message is shown.
I'm running Rooted Stock MI9 (rooted with RDLV - MJ5 doesn't seem to have anything I want that justifies risking breaking a working setup), with Wanam, TiBu, Light Manager (paid), Keyboard Manager (to use hacker keyboard with terminal and ssh, and swype everywhere else), and Pen Window manager, plus some really boring, typical apps. No games, nothing other than the listed apps that does anything exotic.
It stopped working some time during the last several weeks. I have changed no settings during this time. The only app I have installed is Light Manager Pro (I previously used the free version, until a paid one came out), and I doubt this is the problem, but I have run normal app updates.
Anyone know what it is that causes this issue? I can still get to the battery and data usage screens from settings. It's just usage manager that doesn't seem to work.
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I believe mine started after installing the ATT Allaccess app
Mine broke when I used SD Maid. It deleted a temp file that much I know. Just not sure where. I'm going to refresh the rom and attempt to recreate the break by using sd maid. When I see what file is deleted I'll see if simply putting it back does the trick. I'm using a note 3 att 900a with the Walter White lollipop rooted rom.

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