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Hey I have a question I am on Darkyy 9.3 and have flashed to stock before numerous times and have a Download Mode Jig always handy but I have been hearing and reading recently that with good ROMs with the new install script that you can just flash ROMs over each other if you wipe data and cache and dalvik cache and if you get in trouble just flash to stock.
The reason this interests me is because im a build 1011 and its super annoying because I have to flash to JH3, then Root, then apply 3 button fix.zip sometimes if the 3 buttons dont work, ROM Manager, Quick Boot, JH7ota.zip, then flash the next ROM.
I am willing to do this but I am feeling lazy today and wanna try out Serendipity so Im asing YOU do you think i'll be alright if I flash Serendipity JS3 over a JS5 Darkyy 9.3?
Also one more questions related to that is Serendipity users does it overwrite your Kernel and modem when flashing? I have Suckerpunch and JL3 and am wondering if I should disable lag fix-->Install latest Speedmod. Or would the ROM script just overwrite that.
Finally a question that was posed to me today from a user that doesnt flash to stock and hasnt had a problem that really made me think that what really is the difference when using Odin which installs an unneccesary bootloader and ect going from a JS5 base to a JH3, then using CWM to go JS5 to JS3? Wouldnt it seem logically easier and safer?
Any input and comments about your experience will be GREATLY appreciated.
you can use odin1click, or odin3...
since you have a jig, flashing to stock is not a big deal to you.
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he cannot use odin 1click since the build is 1011. it will brick the phone, for sure.
I Odin3 back to stock, but I'm also on the safe side. I have heard more and more people flash over the old ROM with using Odin though.... I figure that it only adds a few more minutes to the overall task, so why not?
always flash stock imo
just best to go to stock , flashing over has created small bugs for me ..., i do this even for common builds or updates, even though the Dev's work hard to make them upgradeable...i still do .....and if your courageous,,, its good you have the jig or a 1007 build
My personal choice is flash to stock if the roms use different kernels. If the kernel is the same, even different revs of same, I don't bother with stock.
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he cannot use odin 1click since the build is 1011. it will brick the phone, for sure.
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I use print one click all the time and my phone is build 1012
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I always flash to stock and go through the whole process. I find it less buggy and the mental idea of a clean slate allows me to address issues solely on that rom and not past components.
It's sure as heck faster to flash to stock than to read through 1000's of posts to figure out if it's a good idea or not when I don't know as much about it...
I'm still new to the flashing ROMs world, but I'd rather be safe than sorry at this point so I go back to stock whenever I switch.
Ive now just wiped data cache and dalvik cache, and flashed over 4 ROMs in the past week with ZERO problems.
That being said im always safe I do it at home with my jig and odin ready on my PC.
But i actually havent had a single problem.
Darkyy-->Andromeda-->Paragon-->Serendipity
Hi Everyone,
I bought ROM Manager Premium v4.5.0.1, in order to do a Nandroid backup on my I896 running stock I896UXJL1.
I ran "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery", and it said my Current Recovery 2.5.1.2 was the same as the Latest Recovery. So far so good.
Then I ran "Backup Current ROM." Instead of doing a backup, it rebooted my phone into Recovery "3e" every time. I tried it many times and got the same result.
This is so confusing. For whatever reason the app decides to boot my phone into recovery instead of doing the backup, I would expect it to at least go into CWM Recovery instead of the stock 3e.
Questions:
1. Has any of you gotten rebooted when you try to do a Nandroid backup?
2. Has any of you gotten rebooted into stock recovery even when CWM is installed?
Thanks.
KK
In general ROM manager is trash for SGS. Don't bother with them. I would say find a kernel with CWM cooked in it but JL1 is a rogers only and I don't know any for that.
prbassplayer said:
In general ROM manager is trash for SGS. Don't bother with them. I would say find a kernel with CWM cooked in it but JL1 is a rogers only and I don't know any for that.
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froyo wasnt so damn kenel picky. any froyo kernel will work.
Doesn't work with any ROM
I've tried ROM manager after flashing KH3 and KJ3, and the "Reboot into Recovery" still doesn't work. I get the triangle-exclaimation-droid screen with nothing else, and it stays that way until I use the 3-button reboot.
Since the app can't even perform one of the more basic functions, I am afraid to let it do anything else. I wish I hadn't paid for the premium version.
ROM manager doesn't work on Gingerbread..... Rom manager isn't very good for Samsung phones
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I've tried ROM manager after flashing KH3 and KJ3, and the "Reboot into Recovery" still doesn't work. I get the triangle-exclaimation-droid screen with nothing else, and it stays that way until I use the 3-button reboot.
Since the app can't even perform one of the more basic functions, I am afraid to let it do anything else. I wish I hadn't paid for the premium version.
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Stop what you are doing and read. ROM Manager sucks basically. Very few people on here actually use it. If you keep just throwing things at your phone though without knowing what you are doing you are going to end up with a shiny, expensive, paperweight. Then you get to spend upwards of 50$ getting that fixed. So please, for me, the forum, and your phone just read. Or at very least ask a directed, detailed question. As in: my phone is here, im trying to get to there, this is what im doing and this is where and how its failing.
Flashing using an app
I actually did weeks of reading before flashing my phone for the first time. I got scared by potential problems such as USB interruptions.
This is where I am at: I've been using mostly Odin to flash. I have successfully flashed KH3 and then KJ3 (with KF1 bootloaders and Boog's kernel); however, I am still nervous each time I do anything.
This is where I hope (or used to hope) to get to: I keep looking for a way to minimize the probability of human errors and technical hiccups. (It's a habit I've picked up while working as a software manager.)
I went for ROM Manager because the same developer wrote CWM. I do appreciate you guys sharing your opinion of the app's effectiveness with the SGS. I only wish I had been warned sooner (ideally by the app's developer).
Find ODIN packages that don't inlcude bootloaders. That will only minimize your risk to soft bricks wich can be recovered with a jig that are easy to make and only cost ~ $10 if you choose to buy them. I personally use KH3 as my "stock" setting when I need to flash to stock. I use Cezar's KH3 .tar that doesn't include them but there are atleast 1 1 click around.
CWM for Captivate Gingerbread UCKJ2
Sorry in advance for the noob question. I have read many posts but can't find my answer. I've installed the leaked gingerbread rom from Samsung called uckj2. I was trying to change the modem by flashing a zip file using clockworkmod recovery. I've heard the way to do it is by using a kernel that already has cockworkmod already baked in. Which kernel should I use?
Thanks in advance
KJ2 have 3 kernels that should work. Corn kernek, Samurai and Boog's kernel.
I had posted a similar thread earlier, but it had a different reason and a different solution, yea, KL7 was the solution..but its been a week since I upgraded and now unfortunately my note is becoming slower!!!
what could be the reason. Im on stock kl7 meant for DBT. i had s2 earlier (nw its with my wife) and i really miss the superspeed s2. i have a iphone 4 with me (secondary phone) and now due to timesaving efforts im using more of iphone 4 eventhough i hate the small size. (pls dont call me a iphone fan!!!). i need note's display and size and s2's speed!!
any latest stock rom's??? (non wipe versions???)
khan.dharvesh said:
I had posted a similar thread earlier, but it had a different reason and a different solution, yea, KL7 was the solution..but its been a week since I upgraded and now unfortunately my note is becoming slower!!!
what could be the reason. Im on stock kl7 meant for DBT. i had s2 earlier (nw its with my wife) and i really miss the superspeed s2. i have a iphone 4 with me (secondary phone) and now due to timesaving efforts im using more of iphone 4 eventhough i hate the small size. (pls dont call me a iphone fan!!!). i need note's display and size and s2's speed!!
any latest stock rom's??? (non wipe versions???)
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Why don't you use Custom ROM??
ranjan.alva said:
Why don't you use Custom ROM??
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ive never used custom rom in any of my android devices..ive following 'fears'
1. will it affect any major aspect of the phone (ive seen many threads like battery issues,wifi issues etc etc..)
2.if later i want to update latest firmware via kies, wil that be a problem>?
3.will i wipe out my data/apps etc?
4.which is the best custom rom available?>
khan.dharvesh said:
ive never used custom rom in any of my android devices..ive following 'fears'
1. will it affect any major aspect of the phone (ive seen many threads like battery issues,wifi issues etc etc..)
2.if later i want to update latest firmware via kies, wil that be a problem>?
3.will i wipe out my data/apps etc?
4.which is the best custom rom available?>
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1. Possibly. Possibly not. Depends on the ROM. Usually the ROM developer will provide detailed information about what's working, what's working better, what's working worse, and what's not working at all. It's up to you to find the best overall fit.
2. You'll have to do a CWM backup and flash back to stock in order to use Kies. Then again, that's kind of a moot point if you're using a custom ROM anyway. Usually dev's will bake in the latest/best working firmware into their ROM's anyway, so Kies really isn't that big of an issue. I've personally never had a need for Kies; I've always just used Odin. It's way better anyway.
3. Depends on the ROM again. However, coming from stock to a custom ROM, it's highly recommended that A) you do a backup of your stuff and B) you perform a full wipe (keep your backup data in tact obviously).
4. That's up to you really. What may be the best ROM for me might not be well suited for you. Have a look in the dev section and see what's out there!
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1. Possibly. Possibly not. Depends on the ROM. Usually the ROM developer will provide detailed information about what's working, what's working better, what's working worse, and what's not working at all. It's up to you to find the best overall fit.
2. You'll have to do a CWM backup and flash back to stock in order to use Kies. Then again, that's kind of a moot point if you're using a custom ROM anyway. Usually dev's will bake in the latest/best working firmware into their ROM's anyway, so Kies really isn't that big of an issue. I've personally never had a need for Kies; I've always just used Odin. It's way better anyway.
3. Depends on the ROM again. However, coming from stock to a custom ROM, it's highly recommended that A) you do a backup of your stuff and B) you perform a full wipe (keep your backup data in tact obviously).
4. That's up to you really. What may be the best ROM for me might not be well suited for you. Have a look in the dev section and see what's out there!
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thanks, so custom rom is one solution which i would definitely look into. and it was seriously helpful reply.
khan.dharvesh said:
ive never used custom rom in any of my android devices..ive following 'fears'
1. will it affect any major aspect of the phone (ive seen many threads like battery issues,wifi issues etc etc..)
2.if later i want to update latest firmware via kies, wil that be a problem>?
3.will i wipe out my data/apps etc?
4.which is the best custom rom available?>
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yeah you got some points ter, even me too still in Stock rom coz am waiting for CM9.
I have a Samsung i9000 which I have rooted with super one click details of my phone are:
Model: GT-I9000
Firmware: 2.3.5
Baseband: I9000NEJVB
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-I9000NEJVK-CL649158 [email protected] #2
Build No.: GINGERBREAD NEJVK
My question is this Can I flash this phone with any kernel or does it have to be specific to any of the numbers above (which I do not know what they mean) and if it does have to be specific could someone please tell me which kernel/s are compatible
Many thanks in advance
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If you want root with proper CWM recovery you will most likely need to flash a kernel with Odin.
SuperOneClick gives you root for things like apps but you generally still have 3e recovery and you end up with signature failure whenever you try flash something from CWM.
In terms of kernels the easiest one which is closest to stock is CF-Root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
You generally want the same cf-root kernel as the last three digits of where it says gingerbreadxxx.
The rest of the instructions are in the first couple of posts. Fairly long but if you just read it slowly and go step by step its fairly easy.
Once you have flashed this you should have the correct recovery to flash other kernels & custom roms.
NB: Before you start all of this make sure to back up your phone. I would recommend connecting phone to pc & copying entire internal sd card straight to a folder on your pc. Also make sure to back up EFS folder. This is where your EMEI number is stored and you will want this if something goes wrong.
From Cyanogenmod Galaxy S wiki page:
Before you do anything — Make a backup
Don't forget to back up your data. If you have synced the device with a Google account, then the contacts, calendar, Gmail, & select other Google-related data will not be lost and will come back after the next sync. However, you should backup anything you want to keep that is not stored on the SD card:
SMS/MMS messages, Call Log, Bookmarks, Applications; use Titanium Backup or the Astro File Manager, for example, Any application data not on the SD card.
It would also be a good idea to backup everything stored on the SD card in the rare case the SD card must be formatted to resolve any major problems.
MyBackup Root, SMS Backup & Restore, and Call Backup & Restore are all free applications that can assist with backing up your data.
Hi, welcome to XDA man
Firstly everything scubadude said above is fairly important
Secondly; well it really depends on what you're looking for mate. If you just wanna upgrade your kernel (and by the sounds of it you dont really know what a kernel is, or what it does) then flashing a kernel only does so much on a standard rom. Flashing CF root kernel gives you proper root for root apps and clockworkmod (CWM) recovery so you can flash addons and suchlike.
However people usually root their phones so they can install a custom rom, which can improve speed, battery life, functionality and a ton of other things, and that's when people start looking around for different kernels which complement their current rom.
Just wanting a kernel with your stock rom doesn't make a whole load of sense. A ROM is what'll improve your phone.
If you want all the benefits of rooting, i'd suggest looking for a new ROM and flashing that.
If you're unsure of what rom to flash, read around in the i9000 development forum and read through different roms features. You could flash an android 2.3.X rom which would be a gingerbread (GB) rom or an android 4.0.X rom which would be an ice cream sandwich rom (ICS)
Dont ask which is the best rom for GB or ICS please, there are a billion threads like it, and it always comes down to this; read around, look at the features each rom gives, look at any bugs they may have (ICS roms probably have a few bugs here and there where most GB roms are completely stable) and decide if said ROM is good for you.
If you want a very stable, very fast, decent battery life and easy to flash GB rom then i'd suggest Gamerzrom. I'm running it atm.
However the dev stopped developing for it, but i can link you to ALL the files you need to flash the rom and a set of instructions if you'd like. I have a copy of all of them because i flash new roms but i usually go back to it anyway.
Definitely read the development section, you'll find something that sounds good for you.
Oh and for your information;
ICS > GB
and for GB firmwares, in order from newest to oldest, all 2.3.6 firmwares;
JW5>JW4>JVU>JW1
(those last two may be mixed up)
Most GB roms are on 2.3.6 now so it helps to know the above.
Thanks for the reply guys very much appteciated
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No problemo, just hit thanks please
I think Gamerzrom is still being developed but it has been moved to another forum. Technorumor blog.
If you want a list of ICS ROMS & Kernels check this thread out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24536220#post24536220
For a fairly thorough ICS benchmark thread check this out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554621
For modems check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158783
As mentioned there are plenty of threads out there asking about ROMS & for every ROM there are going to be people that tell you the one they are using is best. If you are going ICS there is a nice easy tutorial here.
It is for Team ICSSGS. It is an older ICS ROM but development has been slow lately so while it is still good it is running ICS 4.0.3 while the newer ROMS are all on ICS 4.0.4. Having said that it is still a great tutorial & rom to get you started. It goes right from all the files you need, to getting a stock rom in case things fail to flashing ICS. Once you done everything in this tutorial you will be in a good position to start flashing & testing roms to find the one you like.
Oh yes if we have helped hit thanks.
Root is essential if want access to the system of your phone(elusive folders).
Then u can tweak kernel(eg.voltage control or mc tweaker)and improve GPS(GPS aids) or backup your apps and settings with titanium backup.all these are apps u can download from android market.
These are good reasons to root your phone.
If u flash cf-root kernel u will have many options to tweak your phone,because it support init-d(all custom kernel's support this).like supercharger v6 or thunderbolt tweaks this will improve your phone greatly.but u need to READ a lot before going down this road.
Anyway good luck and don't be afraid to root.
ok i think i may have screwed up my phone i flashed the cf-root kernel and phone rebooted. it has now been stuck on the boot animation for an age( blue flashing android word) is there a way of getting it back to stock nejvb. please help this is my only mobile
sorted it thank god found threes firmware etc.
Glad it's sorted
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Go to settings/about phone and check your build,then go to cf-root thread and find a kernel that matches your build and flash that.
But make sure that it's the i9000 thread and not the i9100.
There is a MOBILE ODIN,that is quite easy to operate. If u already got root u can flash almost anything.search for it, it's made by chainfire(cf-root, yep same guy)
But u need root to operate
time to do my rom
ok managed to flash my kernel with the cf-jvb kernel. what i would like to know now is "can i now just flash a rom, and could u explain what a modem is and do i need one or is it included in the rom" i am wanting to speed up my i9000 so could someone suggest a stable GB or ICS rom.
many thx in advance for all your help so far
I have just noticed that this new kernel will not allow Wi-Fi connection it will turn on, scan, wont find my connection and then turn its self off. Have I done something wrong or is it just the kernel that doesn't allow it?
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According to your opening post. Your build is jvk not jvb. Jvb is your baseband. Which you change depending on where in the world you live, it will make your phone have a strong signal. For example my build is jw5 so I use a root made for jw5. I use kg3 as my baseband because it is the stock bell Canada modem and gives the best signal. Root with jvk not jvb. Gl
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With so many horror stories being posted, I don't know what to believe. When will it be relatively safe for us to update to ics?
I came from an HD2, and that was a treasure for flashing different roms. But it seems like the note is so easy to brick.
Edit: All I've done so far is root my note using Dr. Ketan's method.
It's mainly horror stories. Dozens, if not more already flashed to ICS without any problems. Of course there is occasionaly someone with bad luck, but that is also on the OTA updates. Every now and again something goes wrong, but it's a small chance and usually you are still able to fix it afterwards.
So just stick closely to the manual, don't cut corners and you'll probably be okay.
Otherwise, just wait for the OTAs. That's what I'm doing, but that is mainly because I'm a little lazy. However when I got the ICS kernel I'll put vanilla ICS over it.
I've flashed dozends of ROMs on my old HTC desire including ICS. At the end it worked always fine.
1. Backup
2. Wait after flashing - some roms need their time. After 10 min I've sometimes put out the battery to restart...
3. Enjoy
So don't fear!
I'm waiting for ICS OTA also. There have been lots of mixed reports with the previously leaked ICS ROMS - some bricked and some not. I've had a great run with flashing GB ROMs and Kernels but will wait for more official versions.
BTW - A colleague has a Note about four weeks old bought via the web. It turned out to be a German handset and he was successfully able to flash via KIES. I'm jealous - my Note 6 months old and I am still waiting for official ICS !
If you dont have any crazy combination of rom with custom kernel and cwm then is fine
Just dont wipe before flashing
And wipe after flashing
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The fact that we have had ANY bricks at all suggests to me that this is not safe to flash, and even though I have been able to successfully flash LPY and run it, (not without problems), the bit that concerns me is the bricking due to large file copying which has been mentioned by various people.
Since I regularly copy large files to and from the device, I do not plan to subject my device to testing the theory.
I flashed ics yesterday and everything went fine, Iam always paranoid when comes to flashing but research before actual flash is vital! SEARCH button overheats and Iam ALWAYS following instructions!
Dont know what would I do without xda and those so capaple devs!
Galaxy Note!!!
I have flashed LPY a total of 3 times so far without any problems. I have wiped/deleted cache etc etc. The Bricks are all related to modified kernels and CWM. If you you use the stock LPY kernel then all will be fine.
I have also flashed CM9 several times and had no issues what so ever.
If you need root on LPY best method is to flash a GB rom and get root, then use mobile odin with the everoot option to flash LPY.
DO NOT flash the CF Root kernel, This is where problems may start. Keep it Stock and all should be fine.
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Just dont wipe before flashing
And wipe after flashing
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Why is it safe to wipe after flashing and not before? I thought it was the other way around?
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Why is it safe to wipe after flashing and not before? I thought it was the other way around?
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It is the other way around.
Anyway, I fear this might be another superbrick in the making...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653290
And another one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649982
vetchems said:
I have flashed LPY a total of 3 times so far without any problems. I have wiped/deleted cache etc etc. The Bricks are all related to modified kernels and CWM. If you you use the stock LPY kernel then all will be fine.
I have also flashed CM9 several times and had no issues what so ever.
If you need root on LPY best method is to flash a GB rom and get root, then use mobile odin with the everoot option to flash LPY.
DO NOT flash the CF Root kernel, This is where problems may start. Keep it Stock and all should be fine.
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This is exactly what I did...
Mobile Odin Pro inject SuperSU and everroot......NO CF ROOT had a good GB ROM and Kernel. Only wipe done was done by Mobile Odin Pro
No I am 100% stock IPY with root...The fun will start when I begin flashing custom ROMS. Will need to flash CWR for that.
to answer the original question... no... because i thoroughly read as much as i can find before i flash anything...even google it to see if there are problems ... hence i have ics rumming and running without any strange issues...
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This is exactly what I did...
Mobile Odin Pro inject SuperSU and everroot......NO CF ROOT had a good GB ROM and Kernel. Only wipe done was done by Mobile Odin Pro
No I am 100% stock IPY with root...The fun will start when I begin flashing custom ROMS. Will need to flash CWR for that.
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I decided I did not want to "tip toe" around my normal processes with this device and went ahead and flashed CF Root with CWM. Going to need CWM to flash Roms and the LPY kernel has nt proven to be all that safe either. There is at least one case of a Superbrick wiping from Stock Recovery.
I bought these devices to mess with. I have a back up S2 and the s3 is out....Worst that can happen is I sell for parts.
well i am lucky so far as i dint have any issue with my note even after flashing lpy somany times from cwm may b me lucky till now
I'm terrified of flashing any roms on now after all the horror stories. I honestly don't even really care if I have ICS. I just hate how slow the stock ROM is. I would be very very happy with CM7 with SPen functionality.
This kind of sucks coming from an LG G2X which had so many stable roms and kernals to choose from
I thought a Samsung phone would have had even more but I guess not.
Probably like everyone else, I read Entropy's thread and became SUPER paranoid. He said there's no way to tell if you're slowly degrading the emmc or not unless you're on a 100% safe kernel / rom. I'm confused about the rest of the details. Apparently cm9 is 100% safe, but even the official ics can brick our note if we still have reminants of a leaked ics rom / kernel?
People alot more knowledgable than me have been bricking their note, so I will wait for an idiot proof method.
I would luv to see a step by step guide on video.
Also still dont grasp the fact that even if we put an official ics from Germany will won't get upgrades.
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I've been using lpy since release, and although I've had no problems so far, don't have cwm just root, but the more posts IM reading about people experiencing bricks from many different methods is definitively scaring me.
Chasmodo is a very reputable developer as is Entropy. I heed their words and will flash back to GB today, it's just not worth the risk.
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Thijsvr said:
It's mainly horror stories. Dozens, if not more already flashed to ICS without any problems. Of course there is occasionaly someone with bad luck, but that is also on the OTA updates. Every now and again something goes wrong, but it's a small chance and usually you are still able to fix it afterwards.
So just stick closely to the manual, don't cut corners and you'll probably be okay.
Otherwise, just wait for the OTAs. That's what I'm doing, but that is mainly because I'm a little lazy. However when I got the ICS kernel I'll put vanilla ICS over it.
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I also initially thought it was all speculation and anecdotal evidence. However, it appears that at least one user who has upgraded a brand new Note via Kies to LPY and wiped immediately thereafter has bricked his device.
That being said, I updated via PC Odin, rooted with temp CWM and full wiped from stock recovery thereafter without any issues (so far, been 3-4 days now). The performance improvements that ICS brings are significant, IMHO.
Basically, update if you really want to and refrain from wiping if possible (i.e. if you are not facing any FCs etc).