I was having issues with my phone and accidentally deleted some system apps so I restored my phone using the fastboot files and cleared my internal SD card storage. Upon reboot (with no apps installed), there is only 2.88GB of application storage available.
If I remember correctly, 8GB is allocated to the internal SD card. Does that mean 8GB goes to application storage? If so, where is my other 5GB?
2.88 for Apps, 8 for internal, and the rest(no more than like 4 gig) for the OS if IIRC.
The OS takes up that much space?
Your internal storage is divided up in to three separate sections...
Apps (your app storage), Media Storage (this is actually like extended app storage or Apps2SD) and SDcard. Not sure the split but I think 8 for apps and media storage (split there however) and the other 8 for /sdcard.
An external SDCARD added would be /sdcard-ext
OS space is never listed as part of a phone's available storage so the 16 GB is has is dedicated to Apps/Media Storage/SDcard
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Your internal storage is divided up in to three separate sections...
Apps (your app storage), Media Storage (this is actually like extended app storage or Apps2SD) and SDcard. Not sure the split but I think 8 for apps and media storage (split there however) and the other 8 for /sdcard.
An external SDCARD added would be /sdcard-ext
OS space is never listed as part of a phone's available storage so the 16 GB is has is dedicated to Apps/Media Storage/SDcard
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So under storage it lists:
Total Phone Storage
Total Space 16.00GB
Application Storage
Available Space 2.73GB
Internal Media Storage
Available Space 8.00GB
Windows Media Sync
Windows Media Sync Storage Internal Storage (8.00GB/8.00GB)
The phone is stock with no updates/market apps. No pics, music, etc (Was backed up and formatted). I should still see 5.27GB somewhere right?
This summed it up pretty well for me. I think I answered my own question. This is exactly what my phone shows.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/10/motorola-droid-4-advertises-16gb-internal-storage-only-reports/
Straight from Moto with a little more detail: https://motorola-global-portal.cust...r_detail/a_id/76066/p/30,6720,8302/kw/storage
Awesome, thank you. I don't know why Motorola does that. They should advertise the amount of space that I can use, not how much is in the phone.
They inflate the phone's storage capacity to fool you into buying it, thinking you're really getting that much. It's an old trick.
core2kid said:
Awesome, thank you. I don't know why Motorola does that. They should advertise the amount of space that I can use, not how much is in the phone.
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Repartition the phone and flash with custom OS and you can use all that space, right?
Yea, that's probably why Moto Mobility is going down under.
I think a custom OS takes up space from your media partition.
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With the D1, there basically was "no" internal storage. Your storage consisted of the external (included) MicroSDHC card and visions of APP2SD working...
With the D2, you got 8GB (?) of internal storage, yet I never saw an official way of using/addressing this storage. The phones came with a 4GB MicroSD card and moving apps meant moving them to the SD Card.
(I think the above is true [for the most part]. I don't remember seeing it any different, although I might be mistaken.)
With the D3, moto (or Android) seems to have redefined the storage area (Media Area) and has re-mounted the internal storage as "SDCARD" and any additional storage that is added is mounted as "SDCARD-EXT". So now, when you manage your apps, they are actually "moved" to the internal storage (Media Area), as opposed to the inserted SDCARD and in my opinion, saving the headache of app management, etc.
Now the question is, what is the "application storage" that the app manager is referring to? Is this a partitioned area that Android requires?
All that I know is that I've moved about 400 MB of apps into the "Media Area". I wish there were an easier way!
Yes, app storage as defined by the OS.
Just an FYI, the original Droid had 256 meg of internal storage for apps. It had no storage for downloads but when pulling an app from the Market it installed to /data/app which was a 256 meg partition.
The Droid 3 uses 2 GB of internal storage for apps and the remaining is partitioned as /sdcard (media storage). So of the 16 GB internal storage, 2 GB is for /data/app and the remaining (about 11.5 GB) is for downloads, pics, mp3s, etc...
At this point, I'm not seeing much need to move apps as the 2 GB space has been more than sufficient. It's much more than the 256 GB plus Apps2Sd allowed on the original Droid. Maybe move some of the larger games and such, but moving just to move...not finding any reasons yet.
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Yes, app storage as defined by the OS.
Just an FYI, the original Droid had 256 meg of internal storage for apps. It had no storage for downloads but when pulling an app from the Market it installed to /data/app which was a 256 meg partition.
The Droid 3 uses 2 GB of internal storage for apps and the remaining is partitioned as /sdcard (media storage). So of the 16 GB internal storage, 2 GB is for /data/app and the remaining (about 11.5 GB) is for downloads, pics, mp3s, etc...
At this point, I'm not seeing much need to move apps as the 2 GB space has been more than sufficient. It's much more than the 256 GB plus Apps2Sd allowed on the original Droid. Maybe move some of the larger games and such, but moving just to move...not finding any reasons yet.
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i pretty much avoided it with the D2. anytime you reset the phone, you have to go through the list to move all of the apps anway, so it's usually a waste of time.
My file system is totally confused. When I browse to EMMC from a file manager it goes to my SD Card. If I browse to SD Card it actually goes to the internal drive.
I've had my rooted Nook Color for about 5 weeks now (CM7 booted from a SD card). Everything was working great until I tried installing some different launchers. I tried GoLauncher, Zeam, ICS, Honeycomb and maybe one more. The default was ADW. Maybe I confused the system by constantly switching from one to the next but at some point the system crashed and I rebooted.
Once rebooted I noticed that many of the games I installed told me I needed to redownload their data files. I looked on my card, through my Mac, but the original files were still there. Turns out the Nook now installs apps on the internal drive rather than the card as it had been before.
Wouldn't be so bad but, as mentioned earlier, the file system is confused. When i need to manage files I've loaded on my SD card I have to browse to EMMC and vice versa. Makes my head spin.
Is there a way to fix it without starting from scratch? I'm using CM7.2.0.
Thanks for your help
That's not a bug, it's a feature. Anyway, what you likely did is Settings -> Cyanogenmod Settings -> Application Settings -> Use internal storage (checked). If you do this, then it swaps the mount points for the SD and the internal memory, so the SD card is mounted at "/emmc" and the internal memory is mounted at "/sdcard". See the first post in the thread in my sig for more information about this.
If you really want to return it to the original way, wasting 5G of internal storage space, then you can uncheck that box in the settings and it'll go back to normal.
Thanks for pointing that out and glad to see there's an easy fix. Seems a bit confusing though, like it's renaming your hard drives or something. I had been using the internal drive for storing media files, video, music, comics. Does it matter where apps or files are stored?
false1 said:
Thanks for pointing that out and glad to see there's an easy fix. Seems a bit confusing though, like it's renaming your hard drives or something. I had been using the internal drive for storing media files, video, music, comics. Does it matter where apps or files are stored?
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Well, the "fix", IMHO, is to leave it with them swapped.
Yes, it matters where apps are stored and it matters what is mounted at /sdcard. Apps use space on the /sdcard partition for settings, temp storage, downloads, etc. Mounting that 5G partition at /sdcard instead of /emmc allows these apps to use that space rather than cluttering your actual SD card. And apps are going to wind up on your 1G partition, not on either the /sdcard or /emmc mountpoint.
You can go read up in my guide on my recommendation on how to best use this space. The normal way is inefficient and wasteful of internal memory, IMHO. But you know, maybe you like it that way
mr72 said:
You can go read up in my guide on my recommendation on how to best use this space. The normal way is inefficient and wasteful of internal memory, IMHO. But you know, maybe you like it that way
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I think efficiency is more in how you choose to utilise the spaces rather than fundamentally in which switch option you use. For example, I choose to completely fill the 5GB of internal with sound and picture media as they get included in the normal app scanning process. Leaving the SD card to hold yet more media, app data and back ups.
It's still good to have the choice offered by the switch.
I currently have the HTC Sensation 4G (TMOUS). It has 1GB of internal storage that was just for Apps and the OS, IE it was not user accessible (unless you had root). Then you had your MicroSD for the usual user and app data storage stuff.
From what I have read there are not two internal storage drives on the One, so I was wondering if the 32/64GB drives are partitioned?
The reason why I'm asking it that I am trying to talk myself into the 32GB model, but if there is 26GB of available space on the 32GB and 1-1.5GB of that will be apps and OS then effective the available space is reduced to ~24GB.
SykesAT said:
I currently have the HTC Sensation 4G (TMOUS). It has 1GB of internal storage that was just for Apps and the OS, IE it was not user accessible (unless you had root). Then you had your MicroSD for the usual user and app data storage stuff.
From what I have read there are not two internal storage drives on the One, so I was wondering if the 32/64GB drives are partitioned?
The reason why I'm asking it that I am trying to talk myself into the 32GB model, but if there is 26GB of available space on the 32GB and 1-1.5GB of that will be apps and OS then effective the available space is reduced to ~24GB.
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Not quite sure what you are getting at but the 32gb model is of course 32gb. The quoted accessible space is what is remaining to the user after the operating system and included apps are installed and can be used for whatever you wish (app. data, media etc.). This will not be reduced by the operating system as it is in a separate part (partition?) of the storage.
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Not quite sure what you are getting at but the 32gb model is of course 32gb. The quoted accessible space is what is remaining to the user after the operating system and included apps are installed and can be used for whatever you wish (app. data, media etc.). This will not be reduced by the operating system as it is in a separate part (partition?) of the storage.
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Perfect, thanks.
Do you know the size of the app/OS partition?
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Not quite sure what you are getting at but the 32gb model is of course 32gb. The quoted accessible space is what is remaining to the user after the operating system and included apps are installed and can be used for whatever you wish (app. data, media etc.). This will not be reduced by the operating system as it is in a separate part (partition?) of the storage.
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That's simply not the case here. The 32gb partition is used by os and apps. Actually, the available space right after unboxing is approx 25gb
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Sigh, this is exactly what I was worried about when upgrading from my EVO 3D.
I noticed my new M8 has a sdcard0 and extsdcard folder. And of course, the apps and games which download hundreds of megs of data in order to run are downloading to the 24 gig internal sdcard0 mount point instead of the nearly empty 64gig extsdcard0 mountpoint. I really REALLY hate how so many Android phones seem to do this, why can't it just be partitioned as internal instead of faking a sdcard, thus making large apps install to internal with no option of installing to the actual external card?
Anyway, without rooting my phone, is there any way I can somehow set it so apps download and install their data to the actual SD card? The whole reason I didn't get the M7 was because I don't want my data to be stuck on the phone's internal memory in case anything happens, as well as to not waste internal memory space on several hundred megs or even gigs of data when I can use a large sdcard for that.
I believe u can go to manage apps and move apps to the sd card. Some may not be able to if it's not comparable but a lot of them should.
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aaron130 said:
I believe u can go to manage apps and move apps to the sd card. Some may not be able to if it's not comparable but a lot of them should.
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I tried that, it only moves the app executable to the SD card, not the hundreds of megs of additional data it downloaded. The app management screen even tells me how much of this additional data is on the internal memory and how much of it is on the SD card (it's all on internal), but moving the app doesn't move the additional data to the SD card.
One would assume that the ext sd 's bus interface would be quick enough to not bog any app which would be using it. That being the case htc has no excuse for not having interchangeable symbolic mounting points between the two sd's. Ive physcally moved some of the data from app's (dcim, and random music ) directories to the extsd, and at least it unburdens the internal sd.
The apk resource fork in these systems could be processed better in android and it's sdk, or even the runtime.
F yes it sucks.
Ok first off sorry if this has been asked before. (The Auto "Simular Threads" Pop-up were NOT Device specific enough for me).
This being the Samsung Galaxy Tab (GT-P1000) Board, the question is only about this that Device. The question being...
Is it possible to move the useless and dead 12.83GB (of "Internal Storage" i.e. Internal SD Card), to the proper Internal Storage (e.g. The default App Directory), which currently only has ~1.4GB of useable Storage, and is now not only quite full... But is starting to really lag hard now.
I never quite understood the need for Internal SD (or by whatever means its called on your Device). when we had proper External Storage. (e.g. 32GB MicoSD). Which IIRC was also pretty much useless. Sans Movies, and or MP3 Files.
But, I'd really love to repartition as much of that useless Internal SD to the Internal Memory as I can by using modified EBR 1&2 files on other Mediatek style Devices.
So is this possible?
Thx