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[Q] General rooting questions.

Hello, i just got my first smartphone, i have AT&T and i didnt want an iphone and was more drawn toward andriod, so i got a captivate. I would really like to do alot of the things in the "Pimp my captivate" guide but i have some questions first.
1.) If i root the phone, and take off the bloatware, will i still get updates if i go to the check for updates in settings? (ex. like the gps fix and froyo update someday).
2.) Its not going to subtract any features from the phone is it ? (ex. the google syncing and everything will still work? Basically is the rooting process and or bloatware removal going to change the way the phone works besides the programs those being gone?
Ill admit i'm an andriod phone hacking noob, but i do know computers well and programming and have altered other devices in the past.

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I would like to know this as well.

stihl29 said:
1.) If i root the phone, and take off the bloatware, will i still get updates if i go to the check for updates in settings? (ex. like the gps fix and froyo update someday).
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Since no updates have come down yet, I don't think anyone is sure of the answer to this. Keep in mind that it's a good idea to make backups of the app APKs on your sdcard before you remove them (just in case you want to reinstall them).
stihl29 said:
2.) Its not going to subtract any features from the phone is it ? (ex. the google syncing and everything will still work? Basically is the rooting process and or bloatware removal going to change the way the phone works besides the programs those being gone?
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Removing AT&T's crappy apps won't affect the phone negatively at all. They simply won't be there, so you can't use them (if you find them useful). The only app that I can think of you may want to keep is the AT&T Hot Spots app so you phone can use free AT&T wifi at locations such as Starbucks.

Yes, you will still get updates as long as you do not install a custom ROM. (Rooting is ok).
The only functionality that will be removed will be that of the apps you delete

Thank you so much this clears up alot of the things I've been wondering.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Rooting issues
I have tried everything I have found online. The superuser icon is there. I have downloaded several apps that require the device to be rooted. I turned on usb debugging, and turned it off. I've downloaded update.zip several times.
I'm not entirely a noob when it comes to tweaking phones. I flashed roms on windows mobile and performed all sorts of modifications I got off this site.
I have the superuser icon. I downloaded titanium. Titanium says it installed busybox. I downloaded the separate busybox app from the market. That app has a popup saying that a nand unlock is necessary for the app to work. When I run it in spite of the popup, it says the device is rooted, but can't find busybox. A whoami command in adb will indicate that I'm not. I went though adb to reinstall busybox. But whenever I try to run any significant commands (eg su) it gives me a permission denied error. Googling permission denied gives me a myraid of possible causes, but it seems I'm getting far afield. I just want to get rid of the bloatware for now.
Is there another program to root this thing? Did I just miss something incredibly obvious?

hello, I recently just rooted this beast, and was wondering when, why, and how often i should clear out the dalvic cache

kamots said:
hello, I recently just rooted this beast, and was wondering when, why, and how often i should clear out the dalvic cache
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You shouldn't ever need to unless you are installing a ROM that requires it. the Dalvik Cache is the Java VM that Android Runs on and it does a very good job of keeping itself cleared. It does lots of Garbage collection on its own.

gotcha! thank you

[SCRIPT] GladEnabler v1.05 (All Rooted Phones Supported-Updated 05/12/2011)

Updated: 05/12/2011
GladiAtrix Enabler v1.05 (Sideloading/Tethering APN)
Quick and simple tool to enable sideloading or add the AT&T tethering APN to your device, should you need it. This requires root to work
Also, this is a Windows only script. If anyone wants to port this to Linux or OSX I'd be happy to include links in the main post.
TESTED working on:
Rooted AT&T Firmware 4.1.26
Rooted AT&T Firmware 4.1.52
Rooted AT&T Firmware 4.1.57
Rooted AT&T Firmware 4.1.83
Rooted Bell Firmware 0.37.4
If you test it and it works on a version different than listed here, let me know and I'll update the first post
I do not have anything but an AT&T Atrix to test this on, but the sideloading fix should work if any device. The tethering APN is only for AT&T as it's carrier specific.
Little bit of additional info here:
Enables sideloading for any device
Adds AT&T tethering APN
You need to click "allow" to superuser when prompted.
Installation instructions:
Read the directions.
Read the directions again.
Read the directions a third time. If you do not understand a step, ASK before starting.
Download the script
Extract the files to C:\GladEnable. Do not install anywhere else. Having it inside a folder with a space will cause the script to FAIL.
Enable USB debugging (Settings -> Applications -> Development).
Connect your phone (I recommend setting USB Connection to 'None').
Run GladEnable.bat (If you're using Windows 7, run as admin by holding down control and double-clicking).
Follow the on-screen directions. You will need to tap "Allow" on your phone for each step.
Make sure you allow the superuser request on your phone or it WILL fail.
All done!
​DISCLAIMER
I am not responsible if this bricks your phone or if it doesn't work properly for you. I've done everything I can to ensure smooth execution.
If you have any issues, feel free to PM me, reply to this thread, or come find me on IRC (I'm Fenrir or fenfone on IRC)​

I realize it doesn't say it in the OP, but does this add the reboot option like your original Mod?

Brilliant, Ririal
Thanks for all your amazing work. I plan on running this script tomorrow.
In the event that reboot is not in the power popup, I really like Quickboot from the market. I have a shortcut to reboot the phone under my power widget. Works great.

beatphreek said:
I realize it doesn't say it in the OP, but does this add the reboot option like your original Mod?
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palletguru said:
Brilliant, Ririal
Thanks for all your amazing work. I plan on running this script tomorrow.
In the event that reboot is not in the power popup, I really like Quickboot from the market. I have a shortcut to reboot the phone under my power widget. Works great.
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This is not the GladiAtrix rom. It only does sideloading/tethering APN for users who just want to enable that, or for users who were using v1 of my retain root script and didn't enable it before hand with aRoot.
The ROM (when it's done, I'm having some issues with the installer. The ROM part is technically finished ) has the reboot power menu option.

Ririal said:
This is not the GladiAtrix rom. It only does sideloading/tethering APN for users who just want to enable that, or for users who were using v1 of my retain root script and didn't enable it before hand with aRoot.
The ROM (when it's done, I'm having some issues with the installer. The ROM part is technically finished ) has the reboot power menu option.
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Awesome Ririal. Will the new version of the ROM root 4.1.57 without needing to go back to 4.1.26 first?
Sent from my Moto Atrix via XDA Premium

Ok, I'm having problems with activating tethering in general. It seems that moto blocked tethering completely. I did v2 of retain root, i used this script, and i also tried it manually and each one of them says that i need a tethering plan. did moto fix this for good?

olieebur said:
Ok, I'm having problems with activating tethering in general. It seems that moto blocked tethering completely. I did v2 of retain root, i used this script, and i also tried it manually and each one of them says that i need a tethering plan. did moto fix this for good?
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With the update i am getting an instant connect on the mobile hotspot. I no longer have to tether the APN to get it to stick. I do notice that ocassionally it breifly says im not set up before it actaully connects.
Ririal said:
This is not the GladiAtrix rom. It only does sideloading/tethering APN for users who just want to enable that, or for users who were using v1 of my retain root script and didn't enable it before hand with aRoot.
The ROM (when it's done, I'm having some issues with the installer. The ROM part is technically finished ) has the reboot power menu option.
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Thanks Ririal,
Many people are realizing that Titanium Backup restores App+Data well, but most system data and settings restores are breaking functionality. A factory reset will restore Blur account and some other settings that are lost but will also make side loading and tethering go away.
Now users we have a way to get those back with out a full SBF.

PAulyhoffman said:
With the update i am getting an instant connect on the mobile hotspot. I no longer have to tether the APN to get it to stick. I do notice that ocassionally it breifly says im not set up before it actaully connects.
Thanks Ririal,
Many people are realizing that Titanium Backup restores App+Data well, but most system data and settings restores are breaking functionality. A factory reset will restore Blur account and some other settings that are lost but will also make side loading and tethering go away.
Now users we have a way to get those back with out a full SBF.
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Bang! You got me! This is exactly what happened to me.
This update totally fixed my sideloading and tethering issues.
BTW, the script failed on me the first time, I'm not sure why. Something about permission denied on ./data/local/tmp/gladenable.sh. But the second time I ran it, everything worked.
Thank you so much Ririal!

Never Mind!

chetters said:
Bang! You got me! This is exactly what happened to me.
This update totally fixed my sideloading and tethering issues.
BTW, the script failed on me the first time, I'm not sure why. Something about permission denied on ./data/local/tmp/gladenable.sh. But the second time I ran it, everything worked.
Thank you so much Ririal!
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Probably just missed the superuser allow request on your phone, that's why you got permission denied.

i have ran this bat file twice, no errors and it is still not working for me. i NEED to tether when i am not at work cause i have no internet at the house. if i can not get this sorted out i am going to revert to RC1 before this OTA (hope i even can do that)
please help me out here!
Win 7 64bit ran as admin
i also have an xp laptop
also have a Win7 32bit

do you need sql-lite3 to run these.... during script it says something about sql-lite3 not found. when i look in APN i don't see a new APN so im thinking thats what im missing

tha5150 said:
i have ran this bat file twice, no errors and it is still not working for me. i NEED to tether when i am not at work cause i have no internet at the house. if i can not get this sorted out i am going to revert to RC1 before this OTA (hope i even can do that)
please help me out here!
Win 7 64bit ran as admin
i also have an xp laptop
also have a Win7 32bit
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It's possible that Motorola patched the workaround for tethering. All this script does is add the custom APN, which used to work. I haven't looked at other methods for permanently enabling tethering as this method has worked for me in the past.

Manually add APN
Is it possible to add an APN without using the script, like with the Samsung Captivate, I'm asking because I'm planning to use the phone outside the US therefore I'm gonna need an APN not from AT&T...
Thanks in advanced

run the batch file without errors but i still can't get the tethering to work. My phone is sim unlocked and on 4.1.57 rooted...

Hi,
Ran the script and allowed the Superuser prompt, all finished without error --- yet I still don't have the sideloading option in Applications->Development
And when I try to sideload an app, keep getting an error message that it isn't allowed for my safety ..
What am I missing here? Am on 1.5.7 Gladiatrix, root is working fine.
Thanks for any help!

Treello said:
do you need sql-lite3 to run these.... during script it says something about sql-lite3 not found. when i look in APN i don't see a new APN so im thinking thats what im missing
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I'm having the same problem, it didn't find sql-lite3 in my path, but it still said sideloadng was enabled ... ??

Great work on all your programs and want to say THANKS for all your work with the atrix. one thing I would like to know. is there an app to install the clock and weather app as the htc phones have on them?

Problems...
I'm having an issue while running the command. I'm a recent iPhone user so this is all new to me. First I'd like to make sure this is all I need to do in order to install 3rd party apps (a.k.a. apps I obtain online) I don't need to do a full-blown root, do I?
While the command is running, it first asks me, "Do you want to install sideloading?" I input 'y' and hit Enter. That results in: " /system/bin/su: not found " Does this mean I need to root first?
Maybe one or more files are not getting extracted, but I don't see anything else in the download. My download contains 5 files.
1. GladEnable.bat
2. gladenable.sh
3. abd.exe
4. AdbWinApi.dll
5. AdbWinUsbApi.dll
Let me know if there's anything else you need that would help solve the problem.
Win7 64 Ultimate
Atrix System Version 4.1.57

jmensen said:
I'm having an issue while running the command. I'm a recent iPhone user so this is all new to me. First I'd like to make sure this is all I need to do in order to install 3rd party apps (a.k.a. apps I obtain online) I don't need to do a full-blown root, do I?
While the command is running, it first asks me, "Do you want to install sideloading?" I input 'y' and hit Enter. That results in: " /system/bin/su: not found " Does this mean I need to root first?
Maybe one or more files are not getting extracted, but I don't see anything else in the download. My download contains 5 files.
1. GladEnable.bat
2. gladenable.sh
3. abd.exe
4. AdbWinApi.dll
5. AdbWinUsbApi.dll
Let me know if there's anything else you need that would help solve the problem.
Win7 64 Ultimate
Atrix System Version 4.1.57
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Ririal said:
Works on:
Rooted AT&T Firmware 4.1.26
Rooted AT&T Firmware 4.1.52
Rooted AT&T Firmware 4.1.57
Rooted Bell Atrix (unsure firmware verison, SIDELOADING ONLY, so there's really no point, but it should work just fine if you want to run it, or want an AT&T APN )
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It clearly states that you need to be rooted for this to work. Please read the post before asking questions that are already answered.
jorge_moran_jams said:
Is it possible to add an APN without using the script, like with the Samsung Captivate, I'm asking because I'm planning to use the phone outside the US therefore I'm gonna need an APN not from AT&T...
Thanks in advanced
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You can add a manual APN in the settings menu, yes.
BicolXpress said:
run the batch file without errors but i still can't get the tethering to work. My phone is sim unlocked and on 4.1.57 rooted...
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Works for me, unsure what the issue could be. Enable the APN, then reboot your phone, I was having issues prior to reboot myself.
crippenx said:
Hi,
Ran the script and allowed the Superuser prompt, all finished without error --- yet I still don't have the sideloading option in Applications->Development
And when I try to sideload an app, keep getting an error message that it isn't allowed for my safety ..
What am I missing here? Am on 1.5.7 Gladiatrix, root is working fine.
Thanks for any help!
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Not sure, never had the sideloading not work for me. This doesn't add the checkbox in the application settings menu (what reason do you really need to uncheck it?), it just enables it. Make sure the script is completing successfully with no errors.
crippenx said:
I'm having the same problem, it didn't find sql-lite3 in my path, but it still said sideloadng was enabled ... ??
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You likely are not rooted then.
flhotboiocala said:
Great work on all your programs and want to say THANKS for all your work with the atrix. one thing I would like to know. is there an app to install the clock and weather app as the htc phones have on them?
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That's a part of HTC sense. You can buy Beautiful Widgets from the market that includes copies of those widgets.

HTC Bloatware Removal

Hello. I just rooted my phone and I tried to uninstall HTC bloatware and virgin mobile bloatware. But every time my phone restarts the apps return. I heard of this happing with HTC phones. I'd like to remove it as this phone has very low storage as it is. I know there is a way but I'm unsure of how. Any help is appreciated.

Bloatware removal issue
Skilleg said:
Hello. I just rooted my phone and I tried to uninstall HTC bloatware and virgin mobile bloatware. But every time my phone restarts the apps return. I heard of this happing with HTC phones. I'd like to remove it as this phone has very low storage as it is. I know there is a way but I'm unsure of how. Any help is appreciated.
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I am having the same issue. Virgin mobile bloatware returns after a reboot. I am thinking about making a backup and manually deleting the apk files. Has anyone dealt with such an issue before? If so, please offer us some advice. Thank you.

Long time VM users
Pinalp84 said:
I am having the same issue. Virgin mobile bloatware returns after a reboot. I am thinking about making a backup and manually deleting the apk files. Has anyone dealt with such an issue before? If so, please offer us some advice. Thank you.
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Been using VM for longer than I care to admit. I've seen this once before I forget if it was my Evo 4G or my Optimus kept happening to me until a stable custom rom had them removed. I just honestly didnt reboot it ever

madtipper743 said:
Been using VM for longer than I care to admit. I've seen this once before I forget if it was my Evo 4G or my Optimus kept happening to me until a stable custom rom had them removed. I just honestly didnt reboot it ever
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I am having the same problem with the Sprint version too. I have gone in with solid explorer and deleted the apk and the ODEX file that's with it and I get the same thing. They return....

The phones need S-OFF or a Custom Rom. I would follow one of those threads for a solution (eventually).

Wow.. Lol. Never had this problem before
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Hi all,
If you install the kernel on this thread, it shouldn't reinstall:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/development/sprint-virgin-mobile-stock-desire-510-t2958969

etienne97 said:
Hi all,
If you install the kernel on this thread, it shouldn't reinstall:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/development/sprint-virgin-mobile-stock-desire-510-t2958969
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Even after installing the kernel, the apps still come back. Plus with that kernel there is no ffc, and also SD card has problems. Trying to debloat this phone is a real pain.

luda214 said:
Even after installing the kernel, the apps still come back. Plus with that kernel there is no ffc, and also SD card has problems. Trying to debloat this phone is a real pain.
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The Cricket version of the WP removed kernel from shinru2004 worked like a charm. All my crap apps and then some are long gone baby. Try it again, or better yet get in touch with OP of your kernel @CurbThePain and ask.

luda214 said:
Even after installing the kernel, the apps still come back. Plus with that kernel there is no ffc, and also SD card has problems. Trying to debloat this phone is a real pain.
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Flash rbheomax's kernel (I believe both camera's work in V1), or pattyboi's kernel (both cameras work), and use Titanium Backup to remove the apps/bloatware. They shouldn't come back after that but if they do, you can always go into Play Store > Settings > Auto-update Apps and set it to Do not auto-update apps and they will quit re-installing. If you're using Flashify to flash the boot image then make sure you reboot the phone before attempting to remove the apps; if you're using TWRP to flash then you don't have to worry about that.

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Flash rbheomax's kernel (I believe both camera's work in V1), or pattyboi's kernel (both cameras work), and use Titanium Backup to remove the apps/bloatware. They shouldn't come back after that but if they do, you can always go into Play Store > Settings > Auto-update Apps and set it to Do not auto-update apps and they will quit re-installing. If you're using Flashify to flash the boot image then make sure you reboot the phone before attempting to remove the apps; if you're using TWRP to flash then you don't have to worry about that.
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That was it. pattyboi's rhinstone kernel was the way to go. Both camera's working and no sd problems with write protection removed. Time to slim this thing down a bit. Thanks dip_spit.

luda214 said:
That was it. pattyboi's rhinstone kernel was the way to go. Both camera's working and no sd problems with write protection removed. Time to slim this thing down a bit. Thanks dip_spit.
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Has anyone else tried this kernel and can verify there are no issues? I seen HTC has a new update for my phone and wonder how that would work:
Software uptate: 1.49.652.3
This update contains important enhancements and bug fixes, including:
ALERT: Patch for critical security vulnerability ('Stagefright')
- Device Stability improvements, bug fixes
- New and or enhanced features
- Further improvements to performance
Right now, my version is 1.48.652.2

I did a backup, then installed the RUU, let their software update install to keep from getting notified about it incessantly, and then put my kernel back with the application backups.

[Help] Lockscreen wallpaper disappeared, wallpaper frozen over entire system

So I'm in a bad place right now it seems. I just rooted my S6 with PingPong root and everything went great. Proceeded to install AdAway and get that started. Then I moved to some build.prop tweaks. I added in the RAM tweaks from the thread in General and I also edited product.name to "att" to remove the S Finder and Quick Connect lines under the brightness sliders. When I rebooted my phone, I got the problems described in the title.
The lock screen just shows a black wallpaper and the rest of the normal options on the lock screen. I'm able to unlock my phone, but then all I see is my actual wallpaper over everything. I can bring the notification shade down and use the toggles, but if I try to open an app all I see is the wallpaper. I know the app is running because when I tried the phone dialer, I was able to place a call. So everything is running, but I can't see any of them because my wallpaper is stuck in place over everything.
Obviously my first idea was to fire up adb and push my backup of the build.prop file to /system, but I can't use adb as it says my device is unauthorized...I've enabled USB debugging in the developer options, but I never got the authorization request and it doesn't seem to pop up on my phone. I'm going to try and blindly see if it does pop up. If someone could post a picture of what the pop up looks like, it would be extremely helpful.
Does anyone know how I can unscrew myself here? I don't even know why this happened. My guess is it's the product.name change because no one's reported a problem like this with the RAM tweaks. Also, I've tried booting into Safe Mode and the problem still persists.
Thank you for the help.
Edit: Managed to get authorized and was able to get in through Adb shell. Moved my backup to /system, exited the shell and pulled the file from /system to check it and make sure it was right and now my phone is in a bootloop. What the hell happened? The build.prop is identical to the one I backed up. Why am I getting a bootleg now and what should I do now? I'm guessing I'm pretty screwed.
Edit 2: Flashed stock firmware with ODIN. Back to normal now.

If problem still persist you may have to ODIN. FYI in 5.1.1 you are able to remove sfinder and quick connect
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neno2323 said:
If problem still persist you may have to ODIN. FYI in 5.1.1 you are able to remove sfinder and quick connect
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Yeah I'm downloading the stock firmware now and planning on flashing through ODIN. I'm reluctant to update to 5.1.1 due to the comments about worse battery drain and no real fix to the multitasking. Figured I would root and try the changes people have been reporting successfully.
I've never owned an Android Samsung phone before or flashed via ODIN, but I'm guessing it will wipe my phone completely?

Ok sounds good ..
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just curious are you on ozopv2?

Android Pay and Root/Custom recovery

So I got Android Pay today and it looks like it will not work on a stock TOUCHWIZ ROM. Had anyone had any luck using it?
After taking a quick look at what it is needs to verify your phone I'm not sure if we'll ever work on a rooted device.
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More info:
https://plus.google.com/+ArtemRussakovskii/posts/DEz1qUnscZF
Looks like some rerooting has worked, no luck on the Note 4 yet though.
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Anybody get this working? I disabled root in SU and cleared data to no avail.

livejamie said:
Anybody get this working? I disabled root in SU and cleared data to no avail.
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I've had no luck
I tried:
1.) rootcloak - fail after card setup
2.) no device check - failed before card setup
3.) disabling su - failed after card setup
Still no luck
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I got it working, but am not rooted, using stock 5.1.1 on the T3 version. Used it at McDonald's today to get a drink. Works very well!
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It works fine for me and i'm rooted. I just disabled SU within SuperSU and it let me set up my cards, and works like a charm.

Cuppeerr said:
It works fine for me and i'm rooted. I just disabled SU within SuperSU and it let me set up my cards, and works like a charm.
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What ROM are you using?
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ShrekOpher said:
What ROM are you using?
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Stock rom, N910T3

Running unofficial CM 12.1 and no dice, Work at Wholefoods and I have been using Wallet for a while now. Pretty annoyed that I can't even downgrade my google services and get the older Wallet NFC app and why did they decide to split it into 2 apps instead of just one?
Meh....

For the Note 4 (N910T), I had Tekxodus Rom URv5. Wouldn't work. Even tried disabling SU, Changing DPI, RootCloak, etc NO LUCK! However, i decided to get the stock rooted/debloated/deodexed rom - N910TUVU1COG2.
1. Backed up my current rom using TB.
2. Flash N910TUVU1COG2 rom (https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347790828)
3. At first boot and setup, immediately disabled SU, and setup Lock Pin.
4. Installed Google Play Services 8.1.14_(2244331-238)-8114238-minAPI21.
5. Installed Android Pay 1.0.103131485
6. Open Android Pay and verified card.
7. Re-Enabled SU.
8. Restore Apps using TB.
Hope this helps.

The old wallet app works better and supports more cards

REAL bad experience with No Device Check (Xposed) on rooted N7100 Note 2, stock rom, 4.4.2.
Installed it, rebooted and immediately I noticed that all of my apps that require root had disappeared from not only the main screen but from the app drawer.
Thought that I would freeze it but Ti Backup wasn't there.
Went into App Manager and tried to uninstall but it would not uninstall.
Wanted to restart into recovery mode but the options were missing... just the option to restart which did not work. The phone would not restart.
Did a full shut down and restarted into recovery the conventional way and luckily got into TWRP and did a recovery. Thankfully I did a backup last night.
Before doing a recovery, I worked on the phone from a 99% charge down to 11%, so I spent some time with it.
One funny thing though, while going through all of this, I got an update to Android Pay and my camera app.
Right after that update, I opened AP and it wanted the code on the back of the card so I tapped the field and the keyboard didn't come up and that's when I decided to do the recovery from TWRP.
BTW, over the last few days I tried all of the above suggestions and none have worked but haven't tried them again after the update to Android Pay. I think that for the time being I'll just play it safe and whip out the plastic.

so basically you can't use a customized rom

krypticsoul said:
For the Note 4 (N910T), I had Tekxodus Rom URv5. Wouldn't work. Even tried disabling SU, Changing DPI, RootCloak, etc NO LUCK! However, i decided to get the stock rooted/debloated/deodexed rom - N910TUVU1COG2.
1. Backed up my current rom using TB.
2. Flash N910TUVU1COG2 rom (https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347790828)
3. At first boot and setup, immediately disabled SU, and setup Lock Pin.
4. Installed Google Play Services 8.1.14_(2244331-238)-8114238-minAPI21.
5. Installed Android Pay 1.0.103131485
6. Open Android Pay and verified card.
7. Re-Enabled SU.
8. Restore Apps using TB.
Hope this helps.
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does your androidpay still work? wondering if it's worth trying. Or did you system force an upgrade of google play services?

wpcprez said:
does your androidpay still work? wondering if it's worth trying. Or did you system force an upgrade of google play services?
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Android pay is working. However I believe that may change with the next update of the Android pay app. Most likely not until the new year.