Issue with Ebay, what would do? - Off-topic

long story, bought refurbished Evo 4g off Ebay 5/11/12, received the phone, wifi and bluetooth did not work, messaged seller (via Ebay), they responded within 30 min with an apology and asked me to ship back for an exchange. About a week later I received the replacement phone, this one was a mute, made no sounds at all, I sent another eBay message and got a response saying they were sorry and to ship it back and the "boss" will pick me out a replacement and they offered to refund $15 for my shipping costs. About a week later I received the 3rd phone, this one was DOA, would not power on or charge and the camera lens looked like it was polished with 80 grit sand paper. I wrote them back asking for a refund, they offered a full refund plus 25%. They received the phone last Thursday, I sent them messages everyday after asking about my refund without a response. This morning a did a dispute with ebay and withing 1 hour I got an email saying they offered a full refund, when I looked at the details not only did I not get the refund plus 25%, I got the original $139 minus the $15 they refunded me for shipping. I called ebay and they basically said I'm on my own. Here are cut and paste from my ebay messages starting with the original defective phone. I don't know what to do from here
5/17/12 Dear chubbiestech,
Hello, I ordered an refurbished Evo 4g and received it yesterday from Ebay packing slip order # shows 14953 (33029) Order was under Brenda DiMichele. The unit was in great condition and activated perfectly however whenever I try to enable wifi or bluetooth it just says error. I spent 2 hours on phone with Sprint who referred me to a store. The tech at the store said the WiFi and Bluetooth are on the same chip and there is something wrong internally with the unit. I called your store today and spoke with Josh who said to email thru Ebay to request an exchange. I love the phone itself but I have to have working WiFi and Bluetooth. How can we go about setting up an exchange?
Their response,
Dear **********
I am sorry to hear there is a problem and I will be more than happy to help, it does sound like the phone is defective, can you please send it back for an exchange my address is below and please include your full name and ebay user id with shipping. I am sorry about the inconvenience this may have caused.
Platinum Connections
40-12 28th st unit R1
Long Island City, NY 11101
2nd phone.......
5/24/12 Dear chubbiestech,
I appreciate the fast service and I received the phone yesterday. I activated it when I got off work and the first thing I checked was the wifi which did work correctly. However the speakers on this phone do not work at all. There is no sound during boot, music, ringtones, speakerphone are all silent. Even when changing the ringer volume no sounds are made. The only sound I can hear is during a phone call, but even then if I put it on speaker phone it goes silent. I will be shipping this unit back today. Where do we go from here? I really want an Evo 4g and I even bought accessories but it seems like I have bad luck with them.
Their response,
I am so sorry about that if you like we can do an exchange my boss with personal pick one out for you and I will refund you 15 & Again I am so so sorry
Third phone,
5/31/12
Dear chubbiestech,
Normally I'm a very easy going person but my patience has run out. I received the 3rd phone today and it is DOA. Will not power on or even charge. I can hook it up to the charger you sent with the phone or one of the multiple chargers I have of my own and the unit does not charge at all. Normally when you plug in a charger the green led lights up until fully charged then it turns amber. I can plug this phone in to every charger I have and nothing happens, no lights, nothing. I attempted to power the phone on and it does nothing. On top of being dead the phone you sent my has what looks like an unusable camera, the lens is looks like it was rubbed over sand paper meaning there would be no way to get a quality picture or video. I was told the boss would hand select me a phone, I feel offended in that there is no way this unit was tested before it went out. With all the other issues I had I would have expected a working phone in excellent condition and instead I received another phone that does not work and in poor condition. At this point I will be mailing the phone back tomorrow and I hereby requested a full refund immediately.
Their response,
am so so sorry . I will give you a full refund plus i will refund you 25% I am so so sorry
- chubbiestech

That's the short version?

lol, long story

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lol, long story
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I see lol. I gotta be honest I didn't read it but I have my own horror story with eBay/PayPal. My solution was to ditch them and never use either service again.

So you got back the original $139 minus what they already gave you for shipping, but you're upset because they're not giving you the extra 25% promised?

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So you got back the original $139 minus what they already gave you for shipping, but you're upset because they're not giving you the extra 25% promised?
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That's what it looked like to me when I read it last night, but I was tired and I'd been on the road for 15 hours so I couldn't be bothered to check.
Not sure what his problem is either - ib4l?

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So close yet so far!

Hey everyone
What is your worst experience with someone?
Mine is, funnily enough, related to an XDA that I bought off eBay...
I sold my XDA Orbit 1 to a friend of mine for £167
After I had collected a decent amount of money, I found an XDA Orbit 2 on eBay for £257.50 including postage. Auction said brand new factory sealed xda orbit 2, with pouch, charger, box, co pilot 7, and it listed all the features for the xda orbit 2. Seller had 100% positive feedback (115) and was from Essex. Seemed pretty decent.
Bought the item...a week later. No emails, no item. Had to call their house multiple times and everytime I would call, someone else would answer and I could never get to speak to the seller (he was always at 'work').
Eventually I get an email from the seller....'sorry I couldn't send the item any sooner, my account had somehow messed up and I needed to reset the password. Item will be sent tommorow'.
Great! So I should be expecting the item soon. I go to school next day, and when I get picked up to go home I ask 'did anything come in the post for me today?'. The reply I got was: 'Yes, a parcel'. YES! The orbit 2 has finally come! After about 1 and a half weeks of waiting its finally here!
I rush home banging my knee on the way in (im soo anxious!). I look past the door and see a big, brown parcel addressed to me. I grab it, run to the living room and rip the packaging to shreads!
I have removed all the packaging, and take the box...I turn it over only too see it say: 'XDA Orbit' with the picture of the XDA Orbit 1 on it. Thats right, the seller sent me an XDA Orbit 1 and not the XDA Orbit 2! He sent me a Artemis and not a Polaris! He didn't even include the memory card for the CoPilot 7, or the USB cable for the PDA, handsfree kit, pouch, etc. All missing!
Nnooo!!! I paid £250.00 for something thats worth £120.00!
I sent the seller an email and got a reply soon after. He said sorry just return the item if your not happy with it.
Posted it off today, so I should be expecting the refund.
Oh well, it happens and it will happen to everyone some day!
So whats your worst experience with someone? I bet people will mention alot of stuff to do with eBay aswell!
NEVER buy anything off ebay. people have recieved fake chinese mp3/mp4 players instead of ipod nano.
when you see unexpectedly low price, just don't bother yourself.
i bought my athena from here, £260 with blocked imei, great price at the time, as i alredy had a phone for calling...
paid through paypal, and it came a day later by special delivery.
When I sold mine, i made the mistake of selling to italy, and it didnt arrive. it might well have arrived but he said it didnt, and the post offiice said i couldnt post a phone recorded to italy, so no tracking number, and me with no money and no athena
but i guess it wasnt really an ebay prob...
Also, i bought a psp from ebay when I was like 13, and the guy stole 75 quid off me... luckily i got some back, but not all of it.
In fairness, ebay generally is good, i picked up a 5m gold plated 2 rca to 3.5mm jack for 2 quic including postage...
so its if you wana take the risk on big things...
Rory
i bought a faulty hdd TV recorder second hand which didn't work from an eBay seller.
mariner_heart said:
NEVER buy anything off ebay. people have recieved fake chinese mp3/mp4 players instead of ipod nano.
when you see unexpectedly low price, just don't bother yourself.
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hmm i wudnt totaly agree i bourt my HTC TyTN off ebay ages ago for £100 quid....i was convinced it was going to be rubbish probly with bustted buttons and stuff hanging off it u know the drill....
....i was completly wrong it came like it was brand new! id say the only thing wrong was that it didnt come with earphones and it had a small dent in top left but it is unnoticeable
but i do agree it is very hard to get cheap stuff without it being fake!
Tell me about it...
I've had loads of problems with eBay, not just the one with the XDA.
Once I bought a remote controlled BB tank from a business seller. He was advertising it as 'BRAND NEW'.
When it came, it was opened, the BB pellets were scattered all over the box, clearly second hand, when I tried to use it, it literally broke after 10 seconds! Someone tried glueing the wheel back on as it had broke!
It was so crap aswell, it didn't even fire that good! The remote control sometimes didn't work aswell!
Another time I bought a 1/6 scale electric rc car. It was massive but after literally 12 hours of charging the battery it would only run for 15 minutes - It would considerably slow down after the 3 minutes! The rest of the 12 minutes it would be slow and then after that it wouldn't run at all!
I was driving it and it skidded on some ice, and smashed into little pieces after it hit a parked car! Lmao as funny as it seems now, it was kinda annoying back in the time!
Another time I bought a slingshot which snapped after a month
I bought some rifle mounts for my air rifle scope which were advertised as 30mm, but when they came they were too big!
And just now I have found out that a 2Gb memory card I bought is fake!
I don't even do much transactions on eBay aswell! I've only bought about 30 items from there!
Anyway the moral of the short stories are...don't spend any more than £15.00 when buying from eBay! That way when it messes up you won't kick yourself as hard!
Also you should know, don't SELL on eBay either. You get stupid buyers who will buy the item, leave you good feedback and then a month or two later issue a chargeback on their credit card! People even try and scam you to get your items!
By the way I have just noticed, I have exessively used the exclamation mark in this post (!) LOL

Called Google regarding the screen on my N7

So I called Google this morning, yes on a Sunday, and was getting ready for one of those phone fights (well more like an argument over the phone, the kind you have when you call your cell provider for additional charges or handset replacement). We all hate those calls because they end up with bad news most of the time. Anyways my new toy, the NEXUS 7, started to make little creaking noises, like when you step on hard wood floors, every time I dragged my finger towards the left side of the screen(holding it portrait). I was reading online about all those problems they were having and was sad to see that mine was like some others I seen online. I was disappointed and to add more to it it started bleeding light on both sides but more on the left. So back to the call. I was expecting for an automated message or a long menu that was going to end up telling me to call during businesses hours. To my surprise I was on hold for like 5 minutes and talked to a real person that was so pleasant to talk to. I stated my reason for calling, he asked for my Goggle account and said "sorry for the inconvenience we will send out a new one to you and you'll get a label with return information to send the bad unit back". I was speechless............ no fight, no wait, no long story, no problem at all. Dam today is a great day. Great Sunday.
So I just wanted to say if you got a bad unit Google will happily replace it. I'm sure its going to take like a week or two because their sold out but hey, I'm not complaining. Just call the NEXUS help line bellow and that's it.
1-855-83 nexus (63987)
Loving the new approach that Google is with their NEXUS devises.
Keep it up Google !!!!!!!!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Nice to know the aftersales support seems worth the wait. Nice to see a good experience for once.
Sent from my Transformer while the N7 is lost in the Play Store Black Hole.
16gb N7 UK ordered 3rd July.
But you have to wait until a "tech" reviews the case though and they will send you an RMA email right? Because I did the same thing last night and was told I will be contacted by someone who reviews the case...
They said I'll get a conformation email from a tech and that's it.
I'll get a new one then send this one back
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
That's positive news. Please keep us up to date on how it turns out.
I just gave Google a call after reading your post and got a rep in under a minute. I told him my N7 had the screen separation issue and he said they'd start the replacement process no problem. He said that they'd be emailing me in the next day or two to confirm some details and they'd send me a replacement soon. He also said that the 16 GB model being backordered wouldn't delay the shipment of my replacement.
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roush611 said:
But you have to wait until a "tech" reviews the case though and they will send you an RMA email right? Because I did the same thing last night and was told I will be contacted by someone who reviews the case...
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I have the same problem. And yes I too was told that I would get a new N7, but only after my case was reviewed. The rep I spoke to said that I would receive an email or call. To the original poster, you may want to give Google a call back just to verify the process.
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aliaselchore said:
So I called Google this morning, yes on a Sunday, and was getting ready for one of those phone fights (well more like an argument over the phone, the kind you have when you call your cell provider for additional charges or handset replacement). We all hate those calls because they end up with bad news most of the time. Anyways my new toy, the NEXUS 7, started to make little creaking noises, like when you step on hard wood floors, every time I dragged my finger towards the left side of the screen(holding it portrait). I was reading online about all those problems they were having and was sad to see that mine was like some others I seen online. I was disappointed and to add more to it it started bleeding light on both sides but more on the left. So back to the call. I was expecting for an automated message or a long menu that was going to end up telling me to call during businesses hours. To my surprise I was on hold for like 5 minutes and talked to a real person that was so pleasant to talk to. I stated my reason for calling, he asked for my Goggle account and said "sorry for the inconvenience we will send out a new one to you and you'll get a label with return information to send the bad unit back". I was speechless............ no fight, no wait, no long story, no problem at all. Dam today is a great day. Great Sunday.
So I just wanted to say if you got a bad unit Google will happily replace it. I'm sure its going to take like a week or two because their sold out but hey, I'm not complaining. Just call the NEXUS help line bellow and that's it.
1-855-83 nexus (63987)
Loving the new approach that Google is with their NEXUS devises.
Keep it up Google !!!!!!!!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
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I had the same problem but 1000 tomes work screen was jumbles and rotating and screwed and they shipped it out Friday over night and I'll get it Monday from what I know they have a "secret stash" so they can handle any faulty units.
So I requested an RMA Thursday night for the screen lift issue and finally got the instructions for the replacement unit this morning. I'm wondering, has anyone had their replacement unit shipped out yet? I'm in no rush, but the instructions do say I have 21 days from replacement "purchase" to return the faulty unit. I was hoping to keep using my current unit until the replacement unit arrives, but with the shipping fiasco going on, I wonder if I'll get it before the 21 days is over.
I was confused about that.
The email I got from Google Play support says I have 21 days from the date of the delivery:
RETURN YOUR ORIGINAL DEVICE
You’ll need to return your original device to our service center. Additional charges for the full price of the device will be incurred if our service center doesn’t receive your original device within 21 days of your replacement delivery
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But my Google Play receipt for the replacement says 21 days from the date of the order:
Please ensure that your shipment arrives at its destination within 21 days from the date of this order to avoid being charged.
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I guess I'll do it within 21 days of the order just to be safe.
Anyway, I placed the order for a replacement on the 19th and it hasn't shipped yet.
I just got off the phone with Google support...was on hold waiting for someone to pick up for about 5 minutes. Everything went very smooth they're sending me a replacement device. He said it will take 2-3 days to process and then my replacement will be shipped. He also said sorry for the inconvenience he understands my frustration Lol......he stated that it was a manufacturing problem with the screens
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Had the same experience here trying to organise a replacement for mine (row of dead pixels). The CSR was very helpful and told me an advanced replace,went will be sent to me soon and a specialist will be in contact with me. Hoping to hear from the specialist soon.
Sent from my Nexus 7
Thanks for the info I just looked at my n7 and notice the screen lifting a little so I'm on hold waiting to talk to someone right now.
i send them an email regarding the heavy display bleeding problem on my nexus. should i call them?
the only thing that keeps me worried is the fact that nobody can guarantee that the replacement will be without issues, there seem to be many display issues ATM...
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
i send them an email regarding the heavy display bleeding problem on my nexus. should i call them?
the only thing that keeps me worried is the fact that nobody can guarantee that the replacement will be without issues, there seem to be many display issues ATM...
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This is my worry. I don't want to do this 5 times before getting a good one.
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
i send them an email regarding the heavy display bleeding problem on my nexus. should i call them?
the only thing that keeps me worried is the fact that nobody can guarantee that the replacement will be without issues, there seem to be many display issues ATM...
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When you factor in the number of people on these forums having issues vs the millions they manufacturered and sent out, it's still a small blip on the radar. At least they're taking care of the issue instead of just sending everybody a rubber case to band-aid the problem. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Yeah, for those who don't know, their support line, at least in the US, is open 24/7. I don't know if it's temporary for the launch or permanent, but the rep I talked to the other day said call whenever you feel like it and to try to avoid peak times.
I was so surprised with their customer service too! They were...pleasant. Crazy, I know lol I've called twice in the last couple of weeks and the reps were extremely helpful both times. Google gets a +1 for the good customer service! (even if it does take forever to get connected to somebody lol)
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Below is the followup email I got within the 24-48 hour window they specified when I called in for an RMA.
Hi,
A replacement device will be provided and your original device will be inspected if you elect to send it in for warranty replacement.
*Important*
RETURN YOUR ORIGINAL DEVICE
You’ll need to return your original device to our service center. Additional charges for the full price of the device will be incurred if our service center doesn’t receive your original device within 21 days of your replacement delivery.
UNDERSTAND YOUR WARRANTY COVERAGE
Additional charges up to the full price of your device will be incurred if our service center determines that the damage to your original device isn’t covered under warranty. Prior to ordering your replacement and sending your device for inspection, please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or visit www.asus.com for details on the ASUS limited warranty.
If you elect to send in your device and receive a replacement after reviewing the warranty, the first step is to return your device using the attached RMA.
Please package the item carefully. The original packing materials may be used. If you are returning fewer items than in the original shipment, please add effective packing materials to ensure the box and the enclosed device(s) are adequately protected from movement inside the shipping box.
For detailed instructions on preparing an item for return, please visit our Help Center at http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2462890
To initiate the return of your original device you'll need to do the following:
1. Print the attached Return Authorization form
2. Insert the Return Authorization form into the outer UPS box.
3. You'll receive a UPS shipping label attached in a separate email. Check your email spam folder if you don't receive this shipping label within the hour.
4. Print this shipping label and affix it to the UPS box.
5. Take your package to any location of The UPS Store®, UPS Drop Box, UPS Customer Center, UPS Alliances (Office Depot® or Staples®) or Authorized Shipping Outlet near you.
To receive your replacement device free of charge, click the link below to access a personal cart that has been prepared with your replacement device already included. Please note that you must be signed in with the same account used to make your original purchase in order to access the below cart:
[REPLACEMENT CHECKOUT URL]
An authorization for the full price of the replacement device will be placed on your credit card. This means that a portion of your card’s credit limit is held for several days, but no charge is made if your original device is delivered within 21 days and the damage to your device is verified to be covered under warranty.
Regards,
*****
The Google Play Team
After placing the return order I got the following email
Thank you.
You’ve ordered a replacement from Google Play. The replacement order will appear as an authorization (AUTH) on your credit card but you will not be charged for the device, tax, or shipping, under normal circumstances.
Please check your email for instructions about returning your defective item. Return your defective item promptly to avoid being charged for this order. Please ensure that your shipment arrives at its destination within 21 days from the date of this order to avoid being charged. Following an inspection by the repair service center, the replacement device is yours to keep without charge if the problem is due to an issue covered under warranty.
Order number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Order date: Jul 23, 2012 1:27 PM CDT
Payment method offered as guarantee: DISCOVER xxx-8XXXX
Purchased from:
Google, Inc.
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View
CA
94043
United States
Ship to:
XXXXX
XXXX
XXXX
XX
XXXX
United States
Shipping Status Quantity Item Price
Not Shipped 1 Nexus 7 16GB Tablet US - New $249.00
Shipping: $0.00
Tax(TX): $0.00
Total (AUTH): $249.00
The Total (AUTH) indicates the amount that has been authorized. This means that a portion of your card’s credit limit is held for several days but no charge is made.
The terms and conditions which apply to your purchase can be found at https://play.google.com/about/device-terms.html
Check the status of this order anytime in your Google Wallet Account.
Questions? Contact Google Play or call 1-855-83-NEXUS (1-855-836-3987).
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If nothing else it looks like a good way to get another N7 without shipping or taxes /s
steevp said:
I was confused about that.
The email I got from Google Play support says I have 21 days from the date of the delivery:
But my Google Play receipt for the replacement says 21 days from the date of the order:
I guess I'll do it within 21 days of the order just to be safe.
Anyway, I placed the order for a replacement on the 19th and it hasn't shipped yet.
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I was wondering about this as well.

[Q] Anyone with Moto Care replace their phone yet?

Forgive me if this has been asked and answered before, but I wanted to get a clearer picture of how this process goes.
Last night, in my drunken brilliance, I dropped my phone. Screen cracked and looks like a mosaic picture now. Still can't believe it; I had a Nexus 4, among the most delicate phones ever created, and it still looks brand new... Anyway, I set up an RMA, but I also have Moto Care Accident Protection. What happens next? Could someone who's done this before chime in? This is my first time...
They'll ask you if you want standard or expedited exchange. Expedited = you get a new phone before sending old one back. Expedited requires credit card, which they will charge $250 if you don't return the damaged phone in a timely fashion.
If you miss their phone call so not waste your time calling them back. You may get lost in a maze of reps who have no clue what you are talking about. Best is to reply to the incident emails they send you and ask them to call you back.
They will email you a coupon code for moto maker, you build a new phone, coupon covers all the costs unless you upgrade to a premium back.
I took a long time to return my broken phone, they never charged my card.
I replaced mine due to overheating. I echo what CUBENSIS says, except that they did charge my card $500 immediately after I chose the expedited method. I also have the bamboo back and unfortunately the coupon code didn't cover the $25 for the custom back but they assured me that cost would be credited back. I just mailed the phone back yesterday so I haven't confirmed that, but even if it doesn't happen automatically I will be calling them and getting that credit. The only pain was I had to wait 8 days or so for the replacement phone to arrive, but that's a small price to pay for the custom design.
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I replaced mine due to overheating. I echo what CUBENSIS says, except that they did charge my card $500 immediately after I chose the expedited method. I also have the bamboo back and unfortunately the coupon code didn't cover the $25 for the custom back but they assured me that cost would be credited back. I just mailed the phone back yesterday so I haven't confirmed that, but even if it doesn't happen automatically I will be calling them and getting that credit. The only pain was I had to wait 8 days or so for the replacement phone to arrive, but that's a small price to pay for the custom design.
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I replaced my walnut back with the black plastic and after a week or two they credited me the cost of the wood back upgrade strait to my card. I never got anything from them telling me that they did it though. Just keep an eye on your card for it.

Delivered an empty box from Motorola RMA

I shattered my screen a month after getting my phone. Living in Colombia I knew I would have to do an advance replacement fee and send the phone to my friend and his wife. They were coming to visit in a few weeks. I called support and explained to them the situation. They agreed to send a phone to my friends home and when he came to colombia I would give him the broken one. Well 4 days went by and no tracking for my phone that was supposed to be 1 day shipping. I called back and they said it would ship that day. Another day and no shipping. I call again and now they tell me they don't even have blue in stock. So they offer a white one 64 gb. Keep in mind I had 15 phones delivered to my friend to bring to me, including some iphones 6S's. My friends arrive with all my phones and well an empty box from motorola. I also notice the advance fee dropped off my credit card. So I assume with all the confusion from support over the non stock phone they did a standard replacement, which totally screws me over. So I call them after the weekend and they tell me they have to report it to fedex. Well fedex calls me and says the package was signed for, I say of course because a package was delivered. Now keep in mind this is all back from November.
So I start emailing everyone from Motorola, twitter, facebook just trying to get some real answers.
Here is the response I got today
"Hi Greg.
The news is not good. The package was shipped with a 64GB Nexus 6, and we have the serial number. Since it was signed for, FedEx is less likely to approve a claim, but that will be your best bet.
The downside is that we are going to have to charge you for the phone we sent. If you send in your broken phone we can release that hold, but unfortunately you are going to be charged for the repair cost in any event.
We've been holding this open so we can't extend this indefinitely. We are able to hold it open for two weeks -- if you can return by then we'll release the hold on the phone we sent.
- Matt"
The funny part is and I have told them a few times that there is no hold and you would only drop the hold if you sent an empty standard replacement box. They seem to ignore this comment every time. What makes it even more difficult is, Chase Sapphire was going to fix the phone but now with all this crap who knows what will happen. I googled motorola support empty box and found one other person tweet to Motorola Support with the same issue. I am curious has anyone else had issues with doing an RMA with these guys?
What do expect to gain by posting this here?
daweeze02 said:
I shattered my screen a month after getting my phone. Living in Colombia I knew I would have to do an advance replacement fee and send the phone to my friend and his wife. They were coming to visit in a few weeks. I called support and explained to them the situation. They agreed to send a phone to my friends home and when he came to colombia I would give him the broken one. Well 4 days went by and no tracking for my phone that was supposed to be 1 day shipping. I called back and they said it would ship that day. Another day and no shipping. I call again and now they tell me they don't even have blue in stock. So they offer a white one 64 gb. Keep in mind I had 15 phones delivered to my friend to bring to me, including some iphones 6S's. My friends arrive with all my phones and well an empty box from motorola. I also notice the advance fee dropped off my credit card. So I assume with all the confusion from support over the non stock phone they did a standard replacement, which totally screws me over. So I call them after the weekend and they tell me they have to report it to fedex. Well fedex calls me and says the package was signed for, I say of course because a package was delivered. Now keep in mind this is all back from November.
So I start emailing everyone from Motorola, twitter, facebook just trying to get some real answers.
Here is the response I got today
"Hi Greg.
The news is not good. The package was shipped with a 64GB Nexus 6, and we have the serial number. Since it was signed for, FedEx is less likely to approve a claim, but that will be your best bet.
The downside is that we are going to have to charge you for the phone we sent. If you send in your broken phone we can release that hold, but unfortunately you are going to be charged for the repair cost in any event.
We've been holding this open so we can't extend this indefinitely. We are able to hold it open for two weeks -- if you can return by then we'll release the hold on the phone we sent.
- Matt"
The funny part is and I have told them a few times that there is no hold and you would only drop the hold if you sent an empty standard replacement box. They seem to ignore this comment every time. What makes it even more difficult is, Chase Sapphire was going to fix the phone but now with all this crap who knows what will happen. I googled motorola support empty box and found one other person tweet to Motorola Support with the same issue. I am curious has anyone else had issues with doing an RMA with these guys?
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this is a long shot but call and ask Fed-ex what the actual weight of the package vs what the customer printed on the shipping label. I used to work for a logistics company here in California and we would re weigh the freight before forwarding it out of our warehouse. I know Fed-Ex international also do this but i am not sure about domestic. If you can get that information from Fed-ex it might help support your claim with moto.
Good luck, hope it works out for you.
Thanks, I'll call them again today.

Note 8 ordered from Samsung is only 20 days old won't power on and Samsung doesn't

I have a Note 8 that I have been very happy with. It's 20 days old and last night while using it just went black. When plugged in to power there is not LED or any sign of life. I performed troubleshooting steps for soft and hard resets with and without power cables. I've tried 3 different power cables and cords but nothing. I charged overnight and still nothing. Completely dead. Phone still looks brand new because I bought a rugged case for it. I've treated it like a newborn baby so it must be defective.
I called Samsung support this morning who walked me through all the previous troubleshooting I've performed and confirmed that the phone is defective. Because it is only 20 days old they created a ticket for me and told me to call ecommerce department @ 855-726-8721 and give them the ticket number and they would replace the phone.
Called ecommerce who was happy to help me and all was well until the end of the phone call. I was told that within a week I would get an email with instructions and a label to send my phone back and within 15 days I would receive a replacement phone. I said WHAT!!!
When I purchased the phone I payed for expideted shipping and had it within 3 days. It's 20 days old and defective and now I'm told that it will actually be 3-4 weeks before I get a working phone again. This is the only phone I have. I had to go to a family member's house to call them 3 times for this info.
There is no escalation path available. Support can only support me. ecommerce can only put in a request via internal communication to a returns team and this is the returns team policy. You can no contact the returns team. You can't escalate to anyone because they are all different departments that have no communication with each other. I can't even call the corporate office to complain because they send you back to support. Everyone I speak to understand and they would be frustrated to but can't help me. Even Samsungs employees don't agree with it but can't do anything or put me in contact with anyone to complain.
So now I sit here waiting for what could be a week before I even get a communication from the returns team to get a working phone. I had the note 7 and lived through two replacements before they took my phone. I even stayed with them and bought the S7 edge. Traded it in for the Note 8 because I had faith in the company. After my experience today it is gone. I'm speechless at the lack of concern about me the customer and the attitude that this is our process sorry and you can't complain.
I would return this phone for an iPhone but I already bought a case, wireless charger, memory card and DeX station.
When I bought my phone it said I could get a wirelss charger or cameral but when I called to inquire they said I missed it by a day. Now I see it's still there if I bought a new phone.
My only experience with Samsung customer service and it will be my last. Next time I will go back to an iPhone where I can get real support from people that seem to care and I can talk to.
In this competitive day I can't beleive that Samsung doesn't care about their customers, has segmented departments in to different silos with no communication and doesn't even provide a place for customer to complaing about a process. If I have no way to complain how will they ever know something is broke.
I was mad but now I feel hopeless. I hope I don't have an emergency that will require me to call an emergency service because I don't have a phone. If something does happen and I survive maybe I could sue Samsung.
If anyone has any suggestions for me to help with this situation or some secret to fix the phone please let me know.
Roughly 3 weeks total to have the new phone from start to finish?...i.e. 1 week to get the instructions, and another 2 weeks (15 days) to receive a new phone. Sounds like they were nice and helpful too...some of the two week delay could be quicker depending on shipping. Doesn't honestly sound too bad overall, but I agree it always sucks to have a problem with a new phone. Not giving you the bonus sounds wrong though, if they still offer it online. Hope it gets sorted out soon!
Maybe a surge fried it!
havrek said:
I have a Note 8 that I have been very happy with. It's 20 days old and last night while using it just went black. When plugged in to power there is not LED or any sign of life. I performed troubleshooting steps for soft and hard resets with and without power cables. I've tried 3 different power cables and cords but nothing. I charged overnight and still nothing. Completely dead. Phone still looks brand new because I bought a rugged case for it. I've treated it like a newborn baby so it must be defective.
I called Samsung support this morning who walked me through all the previous troubleshooting I've performed and confirmed that the phone is defective. Because it is only 20 days old they created a ticket for me and told me to call ecommerce department @ 855-726-8721 and give them the ticket number and they would replace the phone.
Called ecommerce who was happy to help me and all was well until the end of the phone call. I was told that within a week I would get an email with instructions and a label to send my phone back and within 15 days I would receive a replacement phone. I said WHAT!!!
When I purchased the phone I payed for expideted shipping and had it within 3 days. It's 20 days old and defective and now I'm told that it will actually be 3-4 weeks before I get a working phone again. This is the only phone I have. I had to go to a family member's house to call them 3 times for this info.
There is no escalation path available. Support can only support me. ecommerce can only put in a request via internal communication to a returns team and this is the returns team policy. You can no contact the returns team. You can't escalate to anyone because they are all different departments that have no communication with each other. I can't even call the corporate office to complain because they send you back to support. Everyone I speak to understand and they would be frustrated to but can't help me. Even Samsungs employees don't agree with it but can't do anything or put me in contact with anyone to complain.
So now I sit here waiting for what could be a week before I even get a communication from the returns team to get a working phone. I had the note 7 and lived through two replacements before they took my phone. I even stayed with them and bought the S7 edge. Traded it in for the Note 8 because I had faith in the company. After my experience today it is gone. I'm speechless at the lack of concern about me the customer and the attitude that this is our process sorry and you can't complain.
I would return this phone for an iPhone but I already bought a case, wireless charger, memory card and DeX station.
When I bought my phone it said I could get a wirelss charger or cameral but when I called to inquire they said I missed it by a day. Now I see it's still there if I bought a new phone.
My only experience with Samsung customer service and it will be my last. Next time I will go back to an iPhone where I can get real support from people that seem to care and I can talk to.
In this competitive day I can't beleive that Samsung doesn't care about their customers, has segmented departments in to different silos with no communication and doesn't even provide a place for customer to complaing about a process. If I have no way to complain how will they ever know something is broke.
I was mad but now I feel hopeless. I hope I don't have an emergency that will require me to call an emergency service because I don't have a phone. If something does happen and I survive maybe I could sue Samsung.
If anyone has any suggestions for me to help with this situation or some secret to fix the phone please let me know.
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That's why I buy from the carrier. Sorry this happened I would be pissed off.
jason504 said:
That's why I buy from the carrier. Sorry this happened I would be pissed off.
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same here; always buy from the carrier if possible
Can you return the items that you bought to the retailer, or are you out of the return period? You might be able to sell them on eBay or craigslist or some place like that to get some of your money back. Then you can get your iPhone.
The only thing that has really ever tempted me about the iPhone is Apple's customer service. They are the kings of customer service. Aside from my phone, everything else that I have is Apple. You know that if you have problems, they will stand behind what they sell and resolution is only a drive down the road (assuming that you have an Apple store nearby. If not, not sure).
of course Apple stands behind their products; when you overcharge for everything, and have the largest profit margins in the electronics world, its easy to provide good service!
Where did you see the promo still ongoing?
Lol.. gee what did they ever do before they had phones...
Seriously, that's pretty good IMO. They are probably factoring the time you take to return the phone to them and the time they ship it to you. Most companies I dealt with for return/exchange will wait for the defective item to be returned first before they send out the replacement. Despite what was said and tested, they will test it themselves to ensure it is defective as well. Once they know it's defective they will ship the replacement. Some have a business supported plan where they will request payment first for a new item and ship immediately. Upon receipt, return instructions and label will be provided for the return. Once returned, they credit your account. So really don't see anything wrong with this. They are doing what other companies I've dealt with are doing from my own experiences.
The only reason why I buy from the carrier is one you don't have to pay for the phone all up front. Especially since I am only keeping it for a year. When the Note9 comes out I can switch this in for the 9. Number 2 is location the carrier stores are all over easy to walk into a store and swap a defective phone out. Or they will ship one overnight. I think Samsung just implementing his no return policy after the Note 7. I read somewhere that Samsung was not replacing phones. Or they are making it really difficult to try to return a phone.
havrek said:
I have a Note 8 that I have been very happy with. It's 20 days old and last night while using it just went black. When plugged in to power there is not LED or any sign of life. I performed troubleshooting steps for soft and hard resets with and without power cables. I've tried 3 different power cables and cords but nothing. I charged overnight and still nothing. Completely dead. Phone still looks brand new because I bought a rugged case for it. I've treated it like a newborn baby so it must be defective.
I called Samsung support this morning who walked me through all the previous troubleshooting I've performed and confirmed that the phone is defective. Because it is only 20 days old they created a ticket for me and told me to call ecommerce department @ 855-726-8721 and give them the ticket number and they would replace the phone.
Called ecommerce who was happy to help me and all was well until the end of the phone call. I was told that within a week I would get an email with instructions and a label to send my phone back and within 15 days I would receive a replacement phone. I said WHAT!!!
When I purchased the phone I payed for expideted shipping and had it within 3 days. It's 20 days old and defective and now I'm told that it will actually be 3-4 weeks before I get a working phone again. This is the only phone I have. I had to go to a family member's house to call them 3 times for this info.
There is no escalation path available. Support can only support me. ecommerce can only put in a request via internal communication to a returns team and this is the returns team policy. You can no contact the returns team. You can't escalate to anyone because they are all different departments that have no communication with each other. I can't even call the corporate office to complain because they send you back to support. Everyone I speak to understand and they would be frustrated to but can't help me. Even Samsungs employees don't agree with it but can't do anything or put me in contact with anyone to complain.
So now I sit here waiting for what could be a week before I even get a communication from the returns team to get a working phone. I had the note 7 and lived through two replacements before they took my phone. I even stayed with them and bought the S7 edge. Traded it in for the Note 8 because I had faith in the company. After my experience today it is gone. I'm speechless at the lack of concern about me the customer and the attitude that this is our process sorry and you can't complain.
I would return this phone for an iPhone but I already bought a case, wireless charger, memory card and DeX station.
When I bought my phone it said I could get a wirelss charger or cameral but when I called to inquire they said I missed it by a day. Now I see it's still there if I bought a new phone.
My only experience with Samsung customer service and it will be my last. Next time I will go back to an iPhone where I can get real support from people that seem to care and I can talk to.
In this competitive day I can't beleive that Samsung doesn't care about their customers, has segmented departments in to different silos with no communication and doesn't even provide a place for customer to complaing about a process. If I have no way to complain how will they ever know something is broke.
I was mad but now I feel hopeless. I hope I don't have an emergency that will require me to call an emergency service because I don't have a phone. If something does happen and I survive maybe I could sue Samsung.
If anyone has any suggestions for me to help with this situation or some secret to fix the phone please let me know.
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It is these stories , that I count my blessings that the two devices bought from Samsung direct aren't defective. I think one thing I've learned for others on here is this. I think next time I'll just buy the devices from my provider, after all I bought a T Mobile one from Samsung direct. The T Mobile service is much better.
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jason504 said:
The only reason why I buy from the carrier is one you don't have to pay for the phone all up front. Especially since I am only keeping it for a year. When the Note9 comes out I can switch this in for the 9. Number 2 is location the carrier stores are all over easy to walk into a store and swap a defective phone out. Or they will ship one overnight. I think Samsung just implementing his no return policy after the Note 7. I read somewhere that Samsung was not replacing phones. Or they are making it really difficult to try to return a phone.
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That's what I used to think, but after buying from Samsung directly I will NEVER again buy from them. There was a problem with the first phone that had to be returned, and the experience, which is not over, has been a nightmare. If it had been through Verizon, it would have been a piece of cake. It completely changed my mind about any perceived advantages (NONE) of buying from company vs. carrier. I've had all generations of the Note, but after this I'm so burned out on Samsung, I'd consider something else. And actually I don't like the 8 any better than the 7 (which I still have). Their e-commerce department which they route everything through is a joke. They have absolutely no authority and the answer for everything is "wait for a link to be sent to you", which has never happened so far. Lesson learned - I'll vote with my feet.
neograndizer said:
Seriously, that's pretty good IMO.
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I think it's horrible. Samsung should offer the option of shipping a new replacement phone immediately for overnight delivery, if OP provides a credit-card number for the value of the phone until the old one is returned. Then Samsung should immediately email a return label for RMA shipping, and cancel the credit-card hold as soon as the defective product is received and verified.
For an expensive new phone that dies within three weeks, anything less than that is a ripoff.
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Zeblade said:
Lol[,] gee what did they ever do before they had phones[?]
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Before phones, people didn't organize their social and commercial activity in a manner that depends on phones--and the cost to productivity was staggering.
Honestly, I always keep a spare phone now exactly for this reason and just make sure the SIM size is the same as my current phone. Kept an HTC One M8 as my backup for a while. Better than being forced to A ) be without a phone or B ) be between a rock and a hard place with paying full price immediately to get a new phone so I can get phone calls. With the backup, I can C ) go through insurance, swappa, or w/e I choose patiently.
mcdanielvzw said:
Honestly, I always keep a spare phone now exactly for this reason and just make sure the SIM size is the same as my current phone. Kept an HTC One M8 as my backup for a while. Better than being forced to A ) be without a phone or B ) be between a rock and a hard place with paying full price immediately to get a new phone so I can get phone calls. With the backup, I can C ) go through insurance, swappa, or w/e I choose patiently.
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Very true!
Gary02468 said:
I think it's horrible. Samsung should offer the option of shipping a new replacement phone immediately for overnight delivery, if OP provides a credit-card number for the value of the phone until the old one is returned. Then Samsung should immediately email a return label for RMA shipping, and cancel the credit-card hold as soon as the defective product is received and verified.
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That would indeed be phenomenal service, but it also sounds like an expensive change that would likely be passed on to consumers via increased pricing. It's expensive enough as it is! I think most of us can manage without overnight delivery, but some sort of middle ground would be reasonable and certainly welcome.
sefrcoko said:
That would indeed be phenomenal service, but it also sounds like an expensive change that would likely be passed on to consumers via increased pricing. It's expensive enough as it is! I think most of us can manage without overnight delivery, but some sort of middle ground would be reasonable and certainly welcome.
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It's only a noticeable expense if a large fraction of their phones fail quickly. And the overnight (as opposed to two-day) shipping isn't all that important. Most of the benefit from the process I described would come from its other aspects, which would have little or no cost compared to their weeks-slower process.
Samsung just protecting themselves from people claiming the phone just broke on its own when it's actually water damage or physical damage. Nothing wrong with them looking over your phone before they issue out a new one.
If you watered service you should have bought it from a carrier or bought an iPhone.
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shook187 said:
Samsung just protecting themselves from people claiming the phone just broke on its own when it's actually water damage or physical damage. Nothing wrong with them looking over your phone before they issue out a new one.
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Sure, but if they have your credit-card number before they send the replacement phone, then if they find that the original phone was not really defective, they can insist that the replacement be returned in new condition (and subject to a standard restocking fee), or else charge the customer for a second phone. So they're fully protected.
If you watered service you should have bought it from a carrier or bought an iPhone.
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Why? Any vendor who sells someone a product that turns out to be defective has an obligation to replace it without an unnecessary, punitive delay.

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