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Im very new to rooting and rom switching so please go easy
I just tried the cyanogen mod 6 for my nexus 1 and i have a few questions about it.
First, i cant really see anything new accept a few things in the cyanogen menu under "settings". Second, i cant see a speed increase either. Stock is actually working faster!
After all the amazing stuff i keep hearing about cyanogen, i just wanna know, what is it about this one (cm6) that im missing??? I just wanna appreciate it like everyone else
I have no clue.. i went back to Geo411m's ROM..
Personally i want a ROM that is more closer to stock as possible, and i really have no need for certain tweaks really. I used the 5.0.8 N1 quite abit before i went over to Froyo. It was allright for me but later on i really like stock based ROM's.
i agree. its seems as though the stock roms work best with froyo (for now anyway) i have been using a rom called "frf_blackbar_v3_signed" and its working great.
Since im new to this stuff (coming from an iphone!) i just figured i was missing out on something right under my eyes! I know its a new rom and it will get better too.
Have faith and give CM some time
They've been working on it for two weeks and its only their first official froyo release(RC1). Im sure things will pick up and get more exciting soon.
I also tested the performance of stock vs cm, and they didn't differ by that much...
Cyanogen has tons of additional features. What I recommended you do is look at his changelog.
He has listed all the new goodies.
Personally I like the kernal which allows overclocking, the music app which has support for flac right out the box, and the renderer which switches the screen color to save you battery.
I will pay attention to Cyanogen ROM for sure..
yea il be keeping an eye on it as well. Can i ask...
What is a kernel?
What is a online kitchen?
why do we have to flash different radios? (do they mean TMO and AT&T radios?)
Sindroid said:
I have no clue.. i went back to Geo411m's ROM..
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Exact same here. Went from CM6 to Geo411m's ROM yesterday. Its fast, I know what I have, and battery life is good. Tried LeoFroYo this morning but there was just too much there for what I need. A quick Nandroid restore to Geo411m and that's where I'm staying for now
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blunted09 said:
yea il be keeping an eye on it as well. Can i ask...
What is a kernel?
What is a online kitchen?
why do we have to flash different radios? (do they mean TMO and AT&T radios?)
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kernel is the guts of your system
online kitchen is where users can create their own roms
new radios add new features that some roms depend on
i don't recommend you messing with any of these things until you do a lot of reading
from what i understand the only way to truly screw up is if i DONT do a nandroid backup. If i do a nandroid backup once when i just rooted and unlocked the bootloader do i still have to do them every time i wanna put on a new rom to fully ensure that i dont brick or badly screw up my phone?
not necesarily, i nandroid before i do any mods to my system just in case i trash it i can boot it right back up just like it was 5 mins prior
If you truly brick your phone, you won't be able to boot into recovery to restore. You do a nandroid once you have your rom setup the way you want, so when you restore you go back to that point. Cyanogen is one of the best, if not the best. The man went through it with Google, just to bless us with his gift, show some RESPECT!!!!! I just flashed his latest & greatest, and I love it. Although im not a fan of white status bar. I like nothing stock, but I flashed black status bar, and pushed black goggle search box, and rm the apps I didn't want, like twitter and gmail. It's a keeper, and will only get better.The more ability to customize the better. That's why I root in the first place. Options, options, options, I love it.
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from what i understand the only way to truly screw up is if i DONT do a nandroid backup. If i do a nandroid backup once when i just rooted and unlocked the bootloader do i still have to do them every time i wanna put on a new rom to fully ensure that i dont brick or badly screw up my phone?
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You don't brick your phone by flashing a new ROM that doesn't contain radio. You don't brick your phone with almost anything that you do, in the worst case - you're left with a phone that doesn't load OS and needs wipe+reflash, and you lose all your settings and data.
But:
You DO brick your phone by flashing the wrong radio / interrupting radio flash before it finishes.
As with the rest of your questions: I suggest you use this forum and Google and read a lot. That would answer your questions.
Also, I was a user of CyanogenMod on 2.1, kept it until LeoFroyo hit 1.2-beta, flashed, liked, and now I'm with Enomther, who has a fast, stable ROM with most of the features Cyanogen has, and it covers everything I want/need. I'll wait for CyanogenMod to integrate Apps2SDExt into framework, and then compare it again.
I'm still with the stock froyo and about to upgrade.
But if i upgrade to CyanogenMod-6.1
1. How i can make sure that i keep all my applications and settings
2. how to understand if i need to update the radio as well
3. is there a point to upgrade now when gingerbread is just behind the corner and how long usually takes Cyanogen to incorporate the new build in his mod?
No body knows when Gingerbread will really be available for N1.
Just nandroid backup what you have now and flash back when GB is here.
Do a Nandroid backup & Titanium backup.
You can see your radio build at "settings-about phone-baseband version". The current radio is 5.08.00.04 or korean. Look at the android developement section.
Imo, you better try cm 6.1 first. Because, as i know of, there are no major change in gingerbread. But, who knows?
Hope it helps
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william tanaya said:
Do a Nandroid backup & Titanium backup.
You can see your radio build at "settings-about phone-baseband version". The current radio is 5.08.00.04 or korean. Look at the android developement section.
Imo, you better try cm 6.1 first. Because, as i know of, there are no major change in gingerbread. But, who knows?
Hope it helps
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there are huge underlying changes in gingerbread....
also latest stock radio is 4.06. the next official radio update is not out yet. 4.06 is fine with cyan. personally, seeing as gingerbread is probably gonna be hitting in the next few days (hopefully) i would wait
Thank you all!
What's the difference between Nandroid backup & Titanium backup?
How long took Cyanogen to implement 2.2 froyo in his rom?
If it's not too much i guess i flash now and then just re-flash with the gingerbread based cyanogen rom?
Fking1 said:
Thank you all!
What's the difference between Nandroid backup & Titanium backup?
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A nandroid backup is a complete backup of your rom. if you were to restore a nandroid, your phone will be exactly as it was when you did the backup, as if you took a snapshot in time. This allows you to try out different roms, or flash changes to your rom with low risk, as you can always revert.
A titanium backup backs your apps and data to your SD card, it allows you to move between roms and take your apps, the data in your apps, and your settings with you.
How long took Cyanogen to implement 2.2 froyo in his rom?
If it's not too much i guess i flash now and then just re-flash with the gingerbread based cyanogen rom?
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If it is anything like last time, google will push the OTA update, then drop the source code a few weeks later, give the Cyanogenmod team a few weeks to put out a release candidate. I'd expect you should be able to just flash the upgrade directly.
Btw, the Titanium back-up doesn't really seem to back up everything
For example i have to re-configure all my settings, desktops, re-set my accounts and it also has missed few applications.
Is that normal or i'm missing something?
other than that, i'm now happy with cyanogenmod 6.1, it's pretty cool
Are you backing up apps only or apps + user's data ect...
I heard it's better to just restore apps and re-enter data as
that work better. I don't know I've always had good luck restoring
users data.
there are a ton of awesome things in cyanogen 6.1 like HD video recording and FM radio. definitley worth the upgrade now, especially since it will be at least a month after gingerbread is released before cyan team gets something out. maybe longer cause the source isnt necessarily released the same day as the ROM. with froyo i think it was 1-2 months after release till cyan came out.
sorry i guess i didnt understand what you were saying about gingerbread, but if you want a stock gingerbread rom then it should be out within a few days (hopefully)
however, the source and cm gingerbread probably wont be out for a month till then.
basically, if you want root, you should go ahead and go for it now just in case 2.3 makes it harder to root without unlocking the bootloader. a cm based gingerbread wont be out for a while. you can always upgrade to a gingerbread cm later anyway.
if you want to stay stock and see if you like gingerbread then just wait lol
I'm with cyanogen now and happier than ever.
It's soo good that i can gladly wait till they implement rom with gingerbread as well.
p.s.
Gingerbread seems to be kinda ugly anyway
Fking1 said:
I'm with cyanogen now and happier than ever.
It's soo good that i can gladly wait till they implement rom with gingerbread as well.
p.s.
Gingerbread seems to be kinda ugly anyway
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At least with root, when you do get gingerbread you can change the colour scheme and theme it anyway
flybyme said:
there are huge underlying changes in gingerbread....
also latest stock radio is 4.06. the next official radio update is not out yet. 4.06 is fine with cyan. personally, seeing as gingerbread is probably gonna be hitting in the next few days (hopefully) i would wait
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True, there are quite a lot of changes 'under the hood'.
4.06 is only still the latest official radio in the US. The ones sold in the rest of the world get 5.x-radios in their updates and have so since FRF91. They are also hardware-identical. As you say though, any radio from 4.06 and onwards is CM6-compatible.
Even though I hope Gingerbread will be released in a couple of days, perhaps when the Nexus S is released, but it could just as well take more time than that. CM 6.1 is a good way to enjoy the time until that happens.
Hi guys,
Currently running MCR FR15 but was thinking of giving CM7 a try...
Was wondering which people thought was the better rom at the moment in terms of stability / everything working / best battery life?
Cheers in advance.
I would stick with FR15 for now. It is very reliable. CM7 is way too buggy at the moment. Tried it for 1 day and had a couple of reboot.
i have tried both, CM7 is really not ready yet.
Cm7:
Flash video curruption, Sound stuttering, SOUND distortion , USB Mount to PC bug ,
Most important,
CM7 11. has a bug not all people has been experiencing yet, which the EXTernal USB card is not detecting under Recovery mode. THis **** end up having me NVflash my system, and lost everysingle thing on the device.
Note: if you read the forum , and i am not the only one that has this issue.
i will stay with FR15 for sure.
But to me i rather use STOCK LG ROM, issue free. if you can live with a bit slower UI and installation , other than that i think Custom rom isn't really that much better than LG stock rom with all the issue we are experiencing right now
I tried both, too.
MoDaCo feels more solid with less bug but the battery time kills me. Even with all apps suspended it still drains 10%+ overnight.
CM7 is quite buggy, yes. But I managed to get it running quite a-ok. The most important things work well (phone, gps, usb-storage, youtube, gmail etc...). There are a lots of issues with usb-storage doesnt work for some people and the video driver is still full of bugs (broken flash video, on-off animation don't work yet, screen turns on twice at wake ). Still, the best feature of this CM7 gotta be the battery time which is really really really important for me. Installed CM7 nightly 11 2 night ago and the battery drain has been virtually zero overnight. I will have to monitor it a few more days thought. Just wiped the battery stats yesterday so it might have not been correctly showed yet.
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CM7 11. has a bug not all people has been experiencing yet, which the EXTernal USB card is not detecting under Recovery mode. THis **** end up having me NVflash my system, and lost everysingle thing on the device.
Note: if you read the forum , and i am not the only one that has this issue.
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CM7 is completely separate to the recovery, and has no bearing on it. Whatever caused the problem was not CM7.
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CM7 is completely separate to the recovery, and has no bearing on it. Whatever caused the problem was not CM7.
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Totally agree with u.
I would stick with stock until CM7 is ready. Paul will lose interest in the O2X like he does with every device and development will stop. CM7 has a much larger development community and when the final builds are released it will be the perfect Android device.
But to be fair, Paul doesn't stop development on a device until his ROM is as good as he thinks he can get it (which, as I found on my Hero & Blade is pretty damn good - not installed FR15 on my O2X, as still thinking about taking it back).
Tested allmost all cm7 nightlies till v11. Its a dawn good rom, but not reliable at the moment because of the freezes and reboots. I will definitely install cm7 final but till then i continue using fr15 FEAR edition (stable and smoothness ****in rocks )
Hi guys,
Bringing this one back from the dead - we're a month on from the original post... is there any change?
Is MCR (FR17) still the best custom rom?
Of has CM or one of the FR18 roms from here surpassed it?
CM7 has come along way, annoying freezes are a thing of the past.
I'd recommend a modaco based rom. I'm running fear edition and it's nice and fast. Cm7 still has some bugs.
I'd recommend making a nandroid and testing a few out for yourself. Backup and restore is a fairly simple process
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I'm running CM7 .42 build at the moment, and I must say I'm pretty impressed. Overall feel is better than with Fr16 (haven't used 17+, since that's when I went on to ecperiment with CM7 nightlies), app installation is faster, Gingerbread (should I say more? Well, yes: it brings UI changes I prefer to Froyo, like the widget selection screen, faster UI overall).
I had issues with Slick2x and Spoelstra's GB ROMs rendering my Wifi unstable and unable to connect after a while, but I have flashed CM7 off the official source and it is bloody stable, fast and I have yet to experience that WiFi bug again. (I have had one reboot, but I am pretty sure it was a sucky app (errrr, game) that caused it. Hard to blame CM7 for that.)
I'm currently not going back to Paul's ROMs for a while. I'll stay a subscriber though: he has magic fingers and I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do when LG finally gets us GB....
I'm using the latest CM7 Nightly, it works perfect, but the only issue is that i'm not able to get the internal sd-card mounted.
Anybody got a solution for this?
Look in /mnt/emmc
Thanks, but...
For example the camera won't see it. I think camera app doesn't know the mountpoint. Same at gallery.
Currently, I don't have an external sd-card...
I'll have a try by editing the vold.fstab, perhaps that's it
Edit: just renaming emmc with sdcard and vice versa doesn't solve the problem.
Edit2: It works!
Tested fr17 fearless today, it's nice and quick but i just miss something.. don't know what. Back to cm7
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+1 for Modaco or fear Rom CM7 just isn't there yet for an everyday rom, It's close. I still get sound missing or stuttering in MOST music players that only goes away after a reboot but come back randomly. A fair few games just refuse to run under CM7 that run fine under any other non 2.3 rom. So for me any 2.2 based rom is at least usable as 2.3 isn't quit there yet. If you however never use your phone for music/photo or games then CM7 may just be ok for you.
Kernel
Sorry, but you and 'ever fail to install rom with some kernel?? Let me explain:
Device: Lg optimus dual root
Rom can not install anything they "Flesch" kernel Modak r10.
have no problem when I install the nightly cyanogen, all the others I do not like me on whether the cell remains blocked startup that says LG.
Someone knows how to help? Thanks.
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Sorry, but you and 'ever fail to install rom with some kernel?? Let me explain:
Device: Lg optimus dual root
Rom can not install anything they "Flesch" kernel Modak r10.
have no problem when I install the nightly cyanogen, all the others I do not like me on whether the cell remains blocked startup that says LG.
Someone knows how to help? Thanks.
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Not 100% sure what you're trying to say...I recommend a wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache partition then dalvik cache in clockwork recovery. Then install your new ROM. If that doesnt work try nvflash back to stock.
Hi, I just installed the JellyBlast 3.0.3 rom for my Galaxy Pop Plus with the Cor Plenus Kernel 2.1.5 yesterday, and I must say it's a great rom. It's pretty and boots faster than a fresh install of a stock rom. I couldn't help but notice there seem to be some bugs though that don't seem to be reported in the dev thread, so I was wondering if it was just me, or are these actual issues:
1. Some settings don't take effect properly until restart
This happens for things like enabling a keyboard, or allowing installation of non-Market apps. Also, the wifi seems to turn on properly, but it doesn't seem like the apps can detect or use it properly until a restart is done. This isn't a rom breaking issue, but it's an annoying one for a rom that works quite well.
2. The QuickPanel Settings crashes the settings "app".
Every time I try to access the QuickPanel Settings, the entire setting "app" crashes, so I haven't been able to look at those settings at all. This seems to be quite a major bug, though it hasn't really affected the way I use the rom yet.
I hope someone can enlighten me on whether these 2 issues are actual issues, or otherwise. Thanks.
write same words in dev thread
I would have posted this inside the dev thread, unfortunately, I've yet to hit the 10 post requirement to post in the dev thread, and thus I had no choice but to post it here.
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I would have posted this inside the dev thread, unfortunately, I've yet to hit the 10 post requirement to post in the dev thread, and thus I had no choice but to post it here.
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Im about tot flash this rom but out of thhe blue I saw this thread and make me a halt to flash this rom.
It's a good rom regardless of the bugs. They're annoying to be sure, but nothing really deal breaking. I would have preferred a more stable rom with less bugs, but given the lack of custom roms for the 5570i, this seems to be the best out there. Given a choice between this and stock, I'll take this rom every time. The bugs shouldn't stop you from flashing and trying it out. In any case, you can always do a nandroid backup before flashing so you can go back to your previous rom if you like.
the Arabic support
I tried to install the ataboc file from cwm but the installation aborted... Please help there is alot of featire I cant use :crying:
I'm just starting out with this whole rom thing. Currently I'm on Peach Sunrise(Gingerbread) and I want try out one of the best, but more importantly, one of the most latest Android version(which is Jelly Bean I think?) custom ROM's.
So which one exactly should I try out first.
I'll appreciate the help guys.
Go with SlimBean. It is one of the best jelly bean Roms in my opinion.
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I'm just starting out with this whole rom thing. Currently I'm on Peach Sunrise(Gingerbread) and I want try out one of the best, but more importantly, one of the most latest Android version(which is Jelly Bean I think?) custom ROM's.
So which one exactly should I try out first.
I'll appreciate the help guys.
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Am wondering why someone on Peach Sunrise is asking? If you dont know how to flash a rom by now i can only recommend switching to ios :good:
Definitely go with slim.
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Am wondering why someone on Peach Sunrise is asking? If you dont know how to flash a rom by now i can only recommend switching to ios :good:
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That was as helpful!!
Is xda some kind of turrets syndrome release therapy group?
Dvarl and Cameron slimbean it is then. Thank you much for the guidance, and for not being a smartass like the other guy.
Much appreciated.
No problem. Tell us how you like it and if you run into some issues, I may be able to assist you with the problem. Enjoy the slim!
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That was as helpful!!
Is xda some kind of turrets syndrome release therapy group?
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We all have our moments *takes a bow
But seriously what is the question? He/she is already on peach so obviuosly this person knows how to flash. We all know it takes very little effort an time going from one rom to the next. "So which one exactly should I try out first." says what gona flash again anyhow? All these roms have pro and cons an most people cutomize them anyhow.
Like so many other threads on xda all this thread really is (or at best could become) is a debate or argument about which rom is best. Which btw those threads eventually end up closed. An rightly so since it all comes down to personal prefernce. Lets see someone tell me what my personal preference should be.
As for helping i have no prob there. Have tried many times, even succeeded on a few occasions.
Its all good nomad, I'm not mad at ya'. Just remember we all had to start somewhere.
And yeah, I'm rooted and on a custom ROM but that's as far as I've gotten. So i'm not sure which of the 4.0x roms are good.
Anyways guys, one more question. I suppose I should backup before I flash slimbean, and I have clock work installed. Would that suffice in backing up my peach sunrise or are there another app you guys would suggest for doing a back up.
Thanks.
You can use clockwork mod to backup. It will do a complete back up of your entire system, so you'll be able to return it just the way you left it when you made the back up, so if you happen to run into some challenges and want to go back to the way you had things before, you can just restore that backup through clockwork.
If you have any downloaded apps that you want to bring over to your new rom, and you don't feel like downloading again or you want to keep the saved app data say for like a game you are playing, you can backup these up with titanium backup which you can find in the play store. Once on the new rom you can reinstall titanium backup and restore all of your app backups through there.
Ah! Thanks for that titanium backup info. When I went from stock to custom I lost the majority of my apps and contacts. So thanks for letting me that clockwork mod won't back stuff like that up for me.
Ok, I should be good to go now. I'll flash tonight when I got a bit more time.
You've been tremendous help and I really appreciate it.
Thanks.
No problem. mate. Here's an extra little tip. When you first flash slim bean, everything will look tiny because the default dpi is set to like 182 I think, and some apps in the play store won't be compatible due to this. so you have to go into settings under Interface > General UI > LCD Density and set it to 240 reboot and clear play store app data.
Thanks for tip about the dpi setting. Maybe this change should be rolled into the next build.
I haven't tried slimbean; I was going to recommend CM10. I thought Slim was not quite ready for prime time maybe.
I'll watch this thread to see if the new guy comments about his experience.
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So thanks for letting me know that clockwork mod won't back stuff like that up.
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I'm thinking you realize this already, but just to clarify:
CWM will backup that stuff for you, but it would not be too useful when changing ROMs. 'Cause CWM backs up everything, including the OS, into one big glob. It's mostly useful when you hate the new ROM or something effs up and you simply want to roll back the phone, lock stock, and barrel.
I'd wager that most of us use both CWM (or TWRP) and Titanium. Titanium is a more finely-grained restoration tool.
As you gain experience you might want to check out TWRP. It's a bit more convenient than CWM. But really there's nothing wrong with CWM.
Yeah the new build has a res fix. And yeah I'm really liking slim. It is really stable, and I feel it may be even more stable then cm10. And it is definitely, noticeably smoother in performance. You should definitely give it a try.
Another vote for SlimBean. I used CM10 for a little bit. Since going SlimBean, there's no way I'd go back. Significantly smoother.
Slim Bean is really nice, thanks for the heads up!
I change my vote to Slim Bean.
Well I tried installing the zip from here and I get some kind of installation aborted error. I finally got around to trying this because I installed a shut down app and when the app shut my phone down, when I went to start it back up it would hang at the Exhibit screen. So I guess I have to be cautious on the apps I download that are for rooted apps.
Ah well, I'll go back to peach sunrise(hopefully, i'm redownloading it now, a restore from clockwork wouldn't even help). I'll play with Slim a bit later when I have more time.
Now I'm getting an installation error with peach sunrise. So I deleted off my phone, put it back on it, and when I go to install it the screen just flashes real quick and that's it. When I reboot the phone I get hung up on that Exhibit screen again.
What the heck did I do to my phone with that shut down app? I even forget the name of the app and I don't see it on my phone.
EDIT: Looks like I'm in a boot loop.
EDIT AGAIN. Well I'm finally on Slim Bean. I had to wipe my entire system to do anything with it. What can I do in the future to prevent this? Like I said even the backup that I set a few days ago wouldn't work. So this app must have really messed with something...
Sounds like you flashed an apk for some other device. In future only flash what us meant for this device. Playstore won't let you install non compatible and chances are if from playstore it isn't harmful as they are strict and quick to root out malicious software.
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