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Hi guys.. I keep reading your beautiful forum everyday, learning some...
As TheLastOne says, one must do a fresh install after a new ROM upgrading, avoiding the backup to overwrite some file of the old Rom.
My question is... is there a way to restore programs anddevice settings (like buttons config,rings,passwords,network settings etc) withouth making conflicts? I was thinking about a backup software that only saves custom elements.. do anybody know a way to do it? Thanks a lot. :?:
PS I read the post from Happygoat about CABs...is very tricky for me...I hope ther is a easyer solution!!!
There are two programs out there that make decent backups...
1. Sprite Software
2. SunnySoft Backup Manager
Both can be customized to only backup personal data, such as phone number database, etc.
To backup settings, the only way is to make your own cab.
What you do not want to do, is to backup everything, including the registry, and restore it after a ROM upgrade...!
These backups are nice to have if your ROMs stay the same...but if you upgrade/change ROMs, and restore such a backup, your PDA could become unstable. This has to do with the fact that the ROM update uses its resources and registry different, and writes programmes differently.
Hope that clears up things for you.
Thank for clear and fast reply @ HappyGoat..
So I will wait for a definitive "guide" from you about registry and settings CAB saving and try out the softwares u mencioned..by the way those sw save and restore also programs relative registration passwords?
I have made a full backup file on my storage card of my registry with PMH, now I think to do the follow:
1) backup all programs and data with Sprite software on sd card
2) upgrade to new rom and hard reset the device
3) reinstall PMH and restore registry
4) reinstall Sprite and restore programs and data
5) ... it will be ok ? I hope so because I really don't understand how to follow step 2 from HappyGoat guide
Thanks for pacience.. (TheLastOne...can you give an opinion..?)
Vicer,
Check this below link from Sprite Software for your Sprite backup.
http://spritesoftware.crmdesk.com/answer.aspx?id=66&back=browse.aspx#p24
I can confirm that you can successfully backup after a ROM upgrade and you wont lose any new ROM functionality after restore. I have tried this with various ROM upgrade and it works. Follow the instructions and every thing will be fine. However one thing you should note that when you restore from the old rom and if the program get stuck at one point, then dont feel afraid just soft reset and restore again. Remember that if your restore is finished with out any warnings it means that it is restored perfectly.
I hope this helps and if you need any information then please let me know.
Hemant.
Thanks a lot Hemant..I will try soon!!!
Thanks Hemant, I've been looking for this answer for a long time!
Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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pena_leve said:
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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Re: Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
tambeng said:
pena_leve said:
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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Unfortunately I had many problems after the restore with Sprite...I reinstalled all from scratch and now is all ok (unless I downgraded radio to 1.10 that is more stable in my opinion) Ref your question... I'm not an expert but I read the wiki everyday...and:
1) follow the getdevicedata procedure to know your original SHIP rom.
2) find on the xda ftp site the one that mactch exactely with your data
3) you dont need more to dump your Rom!! anyway on the forum you can search for "dump rom on sd card" to find the answer to your original question. Hope this helped..byez
Hi.
I have upgraded my phone with htc windows mobile 6.1
I have reinstalled original Sprite backup 5.1 shipped with the phone. I have followed the instructions to restore my latest back up with the added upgrade exe. from sprite site
The first time I tried my phone was frozen for over an hour until I restarted.
Second time reboot with a white and black screen scared the crap out me!
Third attempt phone freezes at my contacts
Any help will be awesome
AGY said:
Hi.
I have upgraded my phone with htc windows mobile 6.1
I have reinstalled original Sprite backup 5.1 shipped with the phone. I have followed the instructions to restore my latest back up with the added upgrade exe. from sprite site
The first time I tried my phone was frozen for over an hour until I restarted.
Second time reboot with a white and black screen scared the crap out me!
Third attempt phone freezes at my contacts
Any help will be awesome
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Wish I had a better answer for you, but when upgrading a ROM, assuming that you've upgraded from WM6.0 to WM6.1, it is not recommended to restore backups or problems such as what you've encountered *WILL* occur.
You will just need to install everything from scratch. Try out Tiermann's TierAutoinstall, Bengalih's SASHIMI or Sleuth255's User Customization for semi-automated installation. Search for it and you will find it!
I was try many software for backup whit my HTC TyTN II whit WM 6.1 like Sprite backup, HTC backup, SPB Backup and another cant remenber.
The only one work fine is the Resco Backup software.
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Wish I had a better answer for you, but when upgrading a ROM, assuming that you've upgraded from WM6.0 to WM6.1, it is not recommended to restore backups or problems such as what you've encountered *WILL* occur.
You will just need to install everything from scratch. Try out Tiermann's TierAutoinstall, Bengalih's SASHIMI or Sleuth255's User Customization for semi-automated installation. Search for it and you will find it!
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Alex
Thank you
I will give it a try. my only concern is my contacts
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Alex
Thank you
I will give it a try. my only concern is my contacts
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Downgrade back to your original ROM, restore your backup and then sync your PDA with your computer so that your contacts are stored there. Copy off anything else before upgrading back to WM6.1. Once WM6.1 is on, sync with your computer again and contacts, emails, etc will be synced to your PDA. Then start re-installing your apps.
Long and tedious process unfortunately...
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Downgrade back to your original ROM, restore your backup and then sync your PDA with your computer so that your contacts are stored there. Copy off anything else before upgrading back to WM6.1. Once WM6.1 is on, sync with your computer again and contacts, emails, etc will be synced to your PDA. Then start re-installing your apps.
Long and tedious process unfortunately...
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Thanks for the tip I just did it before your post and I got back my contacts!
If i update to the latest ROM (1.93), will i then lose all my data and settings? I have tweaked the phone a lil with advanced config. And added a few programs, and some are on internal storage and others on the phone itself. Im only going to update if it changes NOTHING but the updated stuff. I want to keep my tweaks, settings, programs, EXACTLY as it is. If thats not possible, then the update system sucks imo. Ill leave it as it is, cuz it took too much time tweaking every setting to suit me in the first place.
Ive recently updated my phone to the 1.93 WWE rom and it will remove all your settings from your device.
Your 4gb internal storage will be untouched (provided you follow the instructions and format your phones memory only and not the internal storage) youll be fine.
I found that programs like the Diamond Tweaker help getting the Diamond back to how I had it, altho I did do a Sprite backup, which restored all my texts and contacts, phew, so thats what was important to me. (There are options in the Sprite Backup software to backup only certain things on your phone so you can pick and choose what you like)
1.93 does have a significant speed improvement and im very happy i did upgrade (just gotta get rid of the email notification on the touchflo3D screen as it didnt back these up correctly as it says i have emails when the account isnt there)
But thats not a major issue and i haven't really looked indepth for a fix for that (im sure there is one, thats the beauty of the Diamond, there's usually a fix...somewhere!)
hehe!
If your not happy with having to restore you phone back to how you have it I dont blame you for leaving it as it is. Good luck with whatever you decide!
use sprite backup and restore using upgrade mode (level 1) all your apps/settings/preferences/pim etc will remain so long as your device doesnt change.
darthbane2k said:
use sprite backup and restore using upgrade mode (level 1) all your apps/settings/preferences/pim etc will remain so long as your device doesnt change.
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Nice one! Thanks for that. Will remember that for the next time I flash my Diamond.
You do have to watch out if you have the Call History tab add on for Touchflow that I found in the Diamond Forum as there are 2 different versions one for 1.37 roms and another for 1.93. I did try using the Sprite Backup software which restored everything but my clock was going mental.
Hard Reset the phone and then just restored my contacts and everthing's fine now. I will stress thats an add on problem and not a Sprite Backup issue.
Thanks for the heads up darthblane2k
im not sure if its a special version of sprite - but its certainly the one on the HTC e-club website.
A level 1 restore is if you are upgrading the ROM on the same device
A Level 2 restore is if you are upgrading the ROM on another diamond device
A Level 3 restore is if you are changing to another model device and only want basic info, eg PIM and stuff
Thank you all for your help. So what i have to do now is, download sprite backup from e-club? Back everything up, and then update to ROM 1.93 and then restore level 1, right?
flying-trickster said:
Thank you all for your help. So what i have to do now is, download sprite backup from e-club? Back everything up, and then update to ROM 1.93 and then restore level 1, right?
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Yes, you restore in ROM Upgrade mode. Think you have to change a setting in Sprite restore options to set it to level 1. Also you have the option to restore databases (eg emails contacts, calendar etc)
Thanks, im gonna try that now. But i dont seem to be able to find Sprite Backup anywhere on e-club. Can you tell me where i find the app? Also, where do i get Net framework 3.5 from?
Alright i found the CAB file for NET Framework 3.5 but when i run it on my phone it says it cant install right away. Anyone know why?
Nevermind. I dont feel like relying on Sprite to backup everything. And i dont feel like copying over all my files etc, to internal storage. Too annoying. Thanks anyway. Wish they made it easier.
Hello all
i did use now my diamond awhile now and i would like to flash the newest rom.
I did install some programs and other stuff like contacts, appointments.
Which program is best to backup that stuff and is able to restore it completely ?
Regards
Lorien
If you did a search, you would see that this question was asked earlier today...
I have a german Kaiser here, removed simlock with the tools from this site.
2 Questions:
After Updating to WM 6.1, will the simlock be still gone, or do I have to unlock the phone again.
Is the update worth it ? Htc tells on their site, that all stored data will be lost (ok i have to do a backup), but will WM 6.1 bring so much improvements that i should take the work ?
djtwok said:
I have a german Kaiser here, removed simlock with the tools from this site.
2 Questions:
After Updating to WM 6.1, will the simlock be still gone, or do I have to unlock the phone again.
Is the update worth it ? Htc tells on their site, that all stored data will be lost (ok i have to do a backup), but will WM 6.1 bring so much improvements that i should take the work ?
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Not sure about the Stock HTC ROM, but I am using The Lone Ranger's (TLR 6.1) and love it.. I would do it. BTW the sprite backup will not restore a 6.0 ROM to 6.1 ROM.
So there is no way to backup my data first and restore it to 6.1 ? Then i wont do it, too much calender entrys, contacts, etc. installed.
Edit: Sprite Backup Homepage says that it is possible to restore after a rom upgrade:
http://spritesoftware.crmdesk.com/answer.aspx?id=349&back=search.aspx?
i don't think i've seen anywhere that someone has succesfully restored a back up after upgrading, spb back up has a force restore after rom upgrade but i've never tried it personally, for me i would rather start clean and not risk any file corruption or problems right from the start.
I used a freeware app called PPC Pim Backup, it dosen't update your settings or files like Sprite Backup does, but it does backup all of your contacts, text messages, appointments, just about everything that would sync with outlook and a few things that don't.
I was able to use a backup created when my Tilt was at Wm 6.0 and successfully restore it to after I had reflashed my phone to WM 6.1.
The only downside was the first time I opened my inbox, I had to wait about 10-15 minutes or so for WM 6.1 to thread every single text message I had ever receieved or sent, but after that it worked fine.
Thanks for the tip with pim backup. worked great and the simlock is still gone after the update.
I wish I wouldve known about pim backup before I updated. anybody have a link to the 6.0 rom, so I can go back and start over?
KevinAlbrecht said:
Not sure about the Stock HTC ROM, but I am using The Lone Ranger's (TLR 6.1) and love it.. I would do it. BTW the sprite backup will not restore a 6.0 ROM to 6.1 ROM.
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Yes it does, I have restored all my contacts. mails, texts and diary when I went from WM6.0 to WM6.1 using Sprite backup, with no fuss at all.
funem said:
Yes it does, I have restored all my contacts. mails, texts and diary when I went from WM6.0 to WM6.1 using Sprite backup, with no fuss at all.
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Weird, mine gave me a black screen, then froze up, you must've been lucky, or something.
RuizGT said:
Weird, mine gave me a black screen, then froze up, you must've been lucky, or something.
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No, I only restored the data and no other files. if you restore anything else your asking for trouble
funem said:
No, I only restored the data and no other files. if you restore anything else your asking for trouble
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How would you restore just data files?
sounds like he only restored files that sync, not reg hacks or system files, settings.
I'm new to this, but I ran Sprite backup on Q-Mobile 1.2, intending to upgrade to a WM 6.1 ROM. I tried a couple of WM 6.1 ROMs (Romeos 4.5.3, Garmin DK.3 Final, Dutty's NO4, and Virtual Vista 2.10), and was able to get my SMS messages, contacts and all that good stuff, but was unable to get my MMS messages.
Since I don't really know what I'm doing, I didn't poke around too much, but when I reloaded the Q-Mobile ROM back on, and ran the Sprite restore program, all of my SMS and MMS messages showed back up. I suppose it has something to do with the SMS/MMS directory structure in the WM 6.1 ROMs that I was trying out, but don't really know.
Just my .02. If someone knows what's going on, I'd be very appreciative if they could clue me in. Thanks
So is everyone talking about the AT&T WM6.1 ROM update from HTC from here:
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
If so, has anyone had any issues with it with how it works? Any issues with the radio, etc? I downloaded but have not upgraded my Tilt yet.
Thanks
Flandrel
Does PIM Backup back up texts generated with the stock 6.1 threaded-text app?
Sounds like a handy little util if so.
I suggest SPB backup. It is available from their website and the trial version has five free runs of backup.
I used it and restored all reg edits, dta, programs, mail, three email a/c's, contacts et al. It would freeze up and not restore *anything* at all the first few times but then I unchecked the 'stop all processes prior to backing up' in the advanced menu dialog before proceeding with the backup and it did the job.
I recommend creating a stand alone restorer so that you don't have to install SPB backup again on the 6.1 rom.
I went from a stock 6.0 unbranded to a stock 6.1 off the HTC website. Waiting on my warranty to legally expire in Feb before I start flashing my phone to other roms.
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So there is no way to backup my data first and restore it to 6.1 ? Then i wont do it, too much calender entrys, contacts, etc. installed.
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If it's just calendar and contacts that you are worried about, surely after you synchronize with a laptop or desktop those details will be stored with ms outlook.
So after you do an upgrade, if you synchronize your phone again with laptop/desktop you will get those contacts and calendar entries back again.
Programs and files installed is another story.
hookup activesync, transfer /root/pim.vol to your desktop..
install 6.1 rom..
boot into windows.. rename the current pim.vol (on your phone) to pim1.vol. Transfer the old pim.vol that you saved on your desktop onto your phone.
Reboot to phone to reveal all your contacts and call history restored.. simple and easy.
delete pim1.vol from your phone and bam your done!
YES, the official windows mobile 6.1 kaiser update is very worth updating IMO. Video drivers are much better.. switch views is easy.. moving around is much faster.
JEC
So I am taking it that this upgrade is worth the time to do then? Sounds like stability is better with this upgrade. Hopefully no other issues involved with it. I am still running the stock ROM from AT&T on my phone that came with it with WM6.0.
So upgrade would be good with this then?
Thanks
Flandrel
What is the fastest rom?