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[Q] CWM flashing without ODIN

Hi,
I'm researching flashing via CWR, ROM over ROM without flashing to Stock via ODIN. Specifically, I'm at Cog 3.02 with "base" Cognition Kernel/Modem thinking about going to Andromeda...both employ Voodoo/EXT4, so shouldn't need to disable lagfix (I think?)...
I read at this link (apologies for spaces, but I'm new so can't post actual links): h t t p : / / forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900463
a spirited debate starting about page 4 that flashing to ODIN is effectively doubling your chances for a bad flash, and that recovering a bad flash via CWM is far easier (just try re-flash again...and again(?) until fail back to trying ODIN) than recovering a bad ODIN flash.
If that's true, what prep should I do first via CWR?
1. Andromeda says requires wipe, does ROM install do this or do I do it via CWR first (wipe data/factory reset in recovery)? How 'deep' is a wipe...what do I need to save prior to this?
2. Wipe Dalvik Cache and/or wipe cache partition?
3. Save /efs folder?
4. Aside from TiBu backup to PC, am I missing anything else to save? I forgot to save my Android ID on my first flash, so it's my understanding I can only get that back via flash to Stock...I'd prefer to only go to ODIN if I have to.
Another question I had was regarding nandroid. I made a nandroid backup right after flashing to Cog. Do I really even need this? Since I haven't changed kernel/modem, wouldn't I be better off just flashing my initial Cog zip file?
Finally thanks to all who make this site kick_ss. Connexion2005's videos are indispensable for a newbie like me. People actually answer questions here, and the Devs suceed in delivering onto us a wolf in (out of the box) sheep's clothing...something AT&T and Samsung have failed to do.
Cognition 3.02 is my first and only custom ROM and DG, you have literally saved me from making my phone a brick the old fashioned way: throwing it against a wall. Running flawlessly since Jan 17th...at the same time, I am eager to see what else is out there, ***safely*** as possible.
Thanks in advance.

Since they are both ext 4 you should be ok.
The rom wipes, I clear davlik cache before flash and after, but there our no good reason as to why
Efs files, do you use kies? If so you may want to back them up, if not don't worry, I have never backed then up
Odin flash is not needed but my opinion is you should know how to use odin prior to flashing. Why panic to figure it out if something goes wrong,?
NANDROID only needed if youare going back to cog and after you have flushed the rom you want to restore settings
I think I got everything you asked

Thank you.
So really just the Dalvik cache wipe in CWR prior to.
Kies...soooo failed ever getting that working, and don't seem to need it.
Yeah I actually flashed ODIN1 unnecessarily prior to my flash to Cog. I was at stock and somehow thought ADW would mess it up...rook. I have build 1006 so good to know ODIN's there if I need it.
Re: Nandroid, but if I kept the initial zip for my flash to Cog wouldn't I just use that? Or does Nandroid do better job of ensuring good flash back to what I have right now?
Not familiar with flushing...Would I be able to restore Nandroid directly on top of ROM I'm switching off of?
Thanks again.

OP,
You'd double the chance of failure if all else were equal. I don't have statistics, but I have no doubt that failures happen far more often with odin flashes, though.
1. Andromeda says requires wipe, does ROM install do this or do I do it via CWR first (wipe data/factory reset in recovery)? How 'deep' is a wipe...what do I need to save prior to this?
2. Wipe Dalvik Cache and/or wipe cache partition?
3. Save /efs folder?
4. Aside from TiBu backup to PC, am I missing anything else to save? I forgot to save my Android ID on my first flash, so it's my understanding I can only get that back via flash to Stock...I'd prefer to only go to ODIN if I have to.
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The ROM install script does the wipe. This simply means all your apps and data will be erased (your pictures and anything on the internal and any external sdcard will not be deleted).
I never wipe the dalvik cache or cache partition before flashing. I only do that if I'm having issues like FCs (sometimes happens after a bad theme install, for example).
You probably should have backed up /efs before flashing anything, but that's not to say a backup now isn't a good idea. You only need to do this once.
If I recall, you do need to flash 2.1 to get the ID back. I'm not 100% sure there isn't another way.
WRT the nadroid backup, you don't really need it. What I do is keep 2 or 3 good CWM flashable ROMs and the CWM update.zip on my sdcard in case of problems. I also keep TiBU backup of my stuff there (which I also occasionally backup to my PC just in case my sdcard gets wiped for some reason).
One thing I would suggest is to be sure you have working button combos in case you ever need download mode (hopefully you never will, but it's always possible). If you don't have that, there is a clockwork flashable fix or you could just flash cognition or perception once and then flash whatever you want over them (you can do both flashes all without ever leaving recovery). That should fix the button combos since DG's ROMs include a good sbl.bin (I'm not a fan of that inclusion, but it is useful in this case). Since you are running Cog, I assume your download mode is already working.

Thanks opcow.
Yeah I made sure I could get into d/l and recovery mode with button combos before I even rooted.
So would you ever use a Nandroid backup if you added a different kernel/modem to a ROM? Or would you just go back to the initial zip and SGS Kernel to flash kernel/modem? I haven't done kernel flash...yet...

Madtowndave said:
Thanks opcow.
Yeah I made sure I could get into d/l and recovery mode with button combos before I even rooted.
So would you ever use a Nandroid backup if you added a different kernel/modem to a ROM? Or would you just go back to the initial zip and SGS Kernel to flash kernel/modem? I haven't done kernel flash...yet...
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If the ROM you were running when you backed up is compatible with the new kernel then I don't see why there would be a problem. I don't do it, myself, but I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because I have the paid TiBU and I just use that.

Thanks again...
Yeah I bought full TiBu, so obviously that should work for the apps/data.
Did some more digging tonight and apparently Nandroid backup is ROM only, not Kernel...So seemingly would need to be on same Kernel at least to do proper Nandroid restore.
...that being the case, I guess I don't understand why people stress importance of running a Nandroid prior to and/or post ROM flash...am I missing something?

If you like a rom and set everything up but want to try another doing a nandroid allows you to restore once you flash the rom again.
Also good to run nandroid on new flash, so if you play with themes and something goes wrong you can restore

That makes sense.
Showing me newbie-ness since I haven't played around with themes yet...
...Figured I'd at least get 2nd ROM flash out the shoot before playing with kernels, modems or themes...
This thread is helpful for me. I appreciate your time.

This is along the lines of the question that I was going to post so figured would ask here. I too am considering trying out the new Andromeda. I am currently using Cog 3.04 and want to test out the new Andromeda. The TiBu I have right now is from when i was on stock as I just recently purchased this and Cog was my first flash.. Would i want to continue to use that backup when i flash to andromeda, or would it be better to run a full backup with tibu while cog is on there and then flash to andromeda and use the cog backup??
also,, from above, i could possibly just skip the step with odin and go straight to andromeda? or do I need to run odin and put it back to stock before going over to andromeda?
thanks
zug

Hey Zug,
Just flashed andromeda last night via method outlined above...did not revert to stock at all (no odin). Only issue thus far is market only showing very few installed apps under 'My Apps', but I think this is a common issue. Will research solution tonight (I did have some issues getting back all apps from TiBu, but after I restored missing apps twice and rebooted a few times they all appear to be back). Also my simi clock widget comes and goes, not sure why...might clear dalvik cache to see if that helps.
Regarding TiBu, it saves apps and data. It is not ROM specific...you just back it up, then after you flash new ROM you restore missing apps with data (do NOT restore system data).
EDIT: Resolved the My Apps Market issue (only a few were showing after flash) by going to Settings, Applications, Manage, go to Market, Clear Data, reboot. Search is my friend.
i897 running Andromeda 2.0

Thanks Madtowndave.. i might give that a try.. so, since my phone is rooted and what not, i can just go to the guide and start at the portion about puting the new rom on the sd card, rebooting it and what not in recovery and select that zip and flash it right ? (well condensed version of course) and it should all be good?? guessing if this fails can always use the odin and wipe it and go back?
since i added a few new apps, guessing then that i should use tibu and go ahead and reback up everything since this rom does the master clear and then reload them right?? and hate to ask.. but how do I do the nandroid? newbie still to android and i know that just backs up the rom, but is it a app to dl from market? was fishing around in phone and didnt quite see it yet. .but figured i would do a nandroid in case i want to go back to cog.. this smart?
thnx again
zug

I think most of your questions are answered by others in this thread...
One thing I noticed last night is that I only got red (voodoo) cwm recovery menu via 3 button or long press power and reboot to recovery...when I rebooted to recovery via ROM Manager, I got the green cwm recovery menu. Not sure if this matters, but in another forum (on Vibrant phone, our sgs cousin), they said to flash ROM via the red voodoo cwm menu (since cog and andromeda both employ voodoo you can leave it enabled).
Nandroid backup you can do either from ROM manager or in cwm recovery...
Also andromeda wipes the system data, not a master clear...your data on 16 gig internal memory should not be affected, but is very good idea to backup everything to pc per the flash custom ROM guide.
i897 running Andromeda 2.0

Thanks again madtown.. going to give it a try now.. as andromeda just finished DL'ing

Good luck, hope it goes smooth for you as it seemingly has for me...Feel like a bit of a heretic for not flashing to odin first...maybe I'm just lucky.
i897 running Andromeda 2.0

hmm. ok. .so did the reboot to recovery and installed andromeda.. did it take a tad bit for yours to boot into the phone portion after it got to the andromeda screen?? mine seemed like it was hanging and was about to worry.. but finally booted in.. so figured would see if yours did too? .. gonna test stuff out now and restore tibu

Yeah, did for me too...and yes I was worried. Pretty sure this is very normal on first boot into new ROM in general. Like I said, TiBu was a bit cranky for me and required 2 restores and reboots...
Really enjoying this ROM, btw.
i897 running Andromeda 2.0

yeh.. im still doing the install from tibu (getting paid version after tomorrow since payday since im hating have to select install for every app ) .. and then will reboot and test .. though one thing ive noticed that is diff from the video is the lock screen.. in his review it was the lock button and he swiped it up.. mine is set to a puzzle piece by default?? any idea??
edit.. k mine was a 1st time go for apps restored with tibu .this is pretty nice.. it does appear to be a lot faster/smoother than cog so far.. though the Keep the lights on app should keep my bottom buttons on all the time right? least thats what i thought i was from the video and mine seem to still fade out.. even though i hit the app and it said it was enabled..

changing unlock is in settings, display...
Dunno about lights, mine just worked. Make sure service started and reboot I guess.
i897 running Andromeda 2.0

ok.. that was what it was for the lock part.. thnx .. didnt know that was there for those 4 choices.. thought only could do the none, pattern, pw etc..
everything went fine until i decided to load my contacts/sms etc from tibu.. now when i rebooted to add them, i keep getting the message "Sorry, The application Swype (processcom.swype.android.inputmethod) has stopped unexpectedly.. please try again" constantly getting things like that about swype.. any idea what happened or what i need to do?
edit.. sucked it up and re-flashed ;( will just sync contacts and deal with the ones missing for now ;(

[Q] Reinstall SGSi9000, necessary?

Hi,
i currently have Froyo 2.2.1 + Root + Vodoo + Lagfix installled.
However, i am unhappy with the battery life with the voodoo kernel and want to get back to my CF Kernel.
I modded some of the stuff on my SGS (Camera App, Bootscreen, uninstalled some system apps).
First Question:
If i dont have any other issues, is there a reason to reformat the whole device (repart) so its back to stock like it was when i got it? I always felt better with a "fresh" installation of my windows, and somehow i feel like... how to say.. like i dumped my OS on the SGS with all the stuff i installed, reinstalled, deinstalled, flashed etc pp ^_^ But if you say, thats not an issue then i will leave it as it is.
Second Question (just to confirm what i am doing):
How do i uninstall vodoo and get back to what it was before installing vodoo? I want a fresh install after that.
1. Disable the Lagfix
2. Factory Reset
3. Flash JPY without Repart
4. Flash CF Kernel
5. Install Rom Manager + CWM
6. Install Deoexed Stock JPY Theme
7. Install Backup Apps/settings (not nandroid)
8. Profit
Correct?
Could i also restore a nandroid Backup from when i had the CF Kernel? (after step 5 ofc).
Thanks in advance
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To concretise my initial question:
When is repartition needed? (except when you crashed the OS on the phone )

Re partition is only needed when you have a firmware with all 3 files.. and something is corrupted preventing the phone from booting...
you dont need to do a full wipe.. you could get away with just removing lagfix and restoring back to JPY firmware... BUT doing a full factory reset would remove any unwanted things giving you that 'fresh out the box' feel... somethings tend to get left behind if a wipe isnt done.
your steps 1-8 are all in the right order you can disable lagfix thru CWM
i always do a full wipe before installing another ROM it makes me feel better

i always do a full wipe before installing another ROM it makes me feel better
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Yes same reason why i did ask
So, I did steps 1 and 2, but instead of flashing the JPY i tried to flash the brand new JS5.
Now i have this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11372249&postcount=5
(to keep topics separated please answer there)

[Q] Installing Custom ROMS, why stock?

Simple question. If answered in another thread, please give me a pointer. I searched, but couldnt find an answer. Here is the question.
Why do we have to revert to Stock 2.1 before flashing a custom ROM? Why can't we flash a 2.2 custom ROM over another 2.2 Custom ROM? And finally, is there a CWM flashable version of stock 2.1 with root and cwm pre-installed?
Thanks.

before a lagfix was adopted as "standard" by the dev community this was necessary to reset the phone file system to n unmodified state. Now that all the devs are using the same type of awesome lagfix, reflashing to stock isn't really necessary anymore, IMHO. I never do it anymore. I just do a wipe user data from my recovery menu and everything seems to work fine.

The answer is not simple.
You do not have to flash stock. It used to be more needed. Devs still say so, but I believe that is largely to problem shoot issues from the get go. Threads are cluttered with comments like omg my phone is possessed. Well what were you running prior, and what was your setup? If stock well we know what was what. If ulk kernel with ext 2 loop, then yes there could be issues
Flashing stock at this point is just as risky, if not more risky then flashing directly over. If something feels wrong and you can't fix it, flash stock\master clear start over

So in essence, we can flash fine over an existing ROM and if there are issues, better go to stock and flash from there. Am I right? Can you list the steps you take to flash a new ROM without going to stock? Will there be issues if lets say I flash a 2.2 ROM over a 2.2.1 ROM?

I.do this but it may be redundant
Backup apps
Dl rom
Boot recovery
delete cache
delete davlik cache
Flash rom
delete davlik cache
Boot

I never did flash back to stock. I failed. Odin would not connect.
But for you guys out there - there is a way to bring recovery menu, that's what saved me.
Remove SIM and SD card.
Power+VolumeUp = reboot from any locked state
Power+VolumeDown=reboot into recovery
Power+both Volumes=download mode, never worked for connecting Odin, I could go there from Recovery
So my sequence:
remove old backups
create new backups
download ROM
boot into recovery
flash rom
clear cache partition and dalvik cache (probably the same)
run fix permissions
reboot

I think for most new ROMs that take advantage of the updated 2.2.1 filesystems you don't need voodoo or any lagfix. Can't even remember the last time I used ext4 when using speedmod kernel and JS3/JS5 Rom. Makes it easier to flash new roms when you don't have to worry about corruption.
But flash back to stock clears out any unnecessary gunk that could cause 90% of Force Closes and random vibrates on boot

I always thought of it as installing a new operating system or a different version of. It. Cming from the same roots of the ROM or OS, you can just install a different, major update over it (Different ROM) and be on your way.
However if sonething is built differently from the start (Windows and OSX), you cant just install right over the other because there are problems.
I always start back at the beginning because it onky takes a few minutes extra and it makes the phone a whole lot faster; you clean out alk the gunk and unused folders and whatnot.

you definitely want to do a master clear if you do not start from stock, since there are some caches on your sdcard may ruin your new system.

mengbo said:
you definitely want to do a master clear if you do not start from stock, since there are some caches on your sdcard may ruin your new system.
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Does anyone know how to do a Master Clear with Odin3? Or is there some other way we can do it without Odin3?
Thanks.

Enhanced said:
Does anyone know how to do a Master Clear with Odin3? Or is there some other way we can do it without Odin3?
Thanks.
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I use the oneclick odin to do master clear. The master clear works on i896 too.

Phone restarting after flashing to Stock GB ROM

Apologies, but since I am a new user, I was not allowed to post in the thread in developer section.
I had bought a pre owned phone, on Rocket ROM (GB based), however as S-Pen apps were not working I decided to go on the stock ICS rooted way.
I followed the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
I had downloaded the stock INdian ROM
N7000XXKK3 ------ 2.3.5 2011 November------ N7000ODDKK1 ------------------------India -------------------------Download
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I followed the steps, downloaded Odin, and put the TAR file in PDA section, and flashed. All goes fine without error, on the phone it says everything is installed successfully. However after the process the phone just keeps restarting after the Samsung logo.
Have I done anything wrong here? How do I rectify the mistake and get my phone working

Did you clear cache/dalvik or do a wipe in recovery menu ? Looks like it's stuck because of leftover data from previous rom

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Did you clear cache/dalvik or do a wipe in recovery menu ? Looks like it's stuck because of leftover data from previous rom
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Umm, pardon my ignorance as I am migrating from an ancient Nokia device.
No, I had done no such thing, no backups too as I just had it for a few days and no data so to speak of.
Should I be doing a wipe in recovery menu? And doesn't flashing the device, formats the memory too?

I think it should, but for some reasons it does not. To get rid of boot loop, go into recovery and clear cache. Should boot properly then
Also, avoid doing a factory reset on stock ics. If clearing cache wont help, i'd suggest flashing gb stock rom, doing a wipe and then upgrading to ics as wiping under ics has caused people a lot of troubles.

Yes you should do a wipe of cache memory and dalvik cache. That is availible from recovery menu. And no they arent allways formatted when flashing a new rom.
To go into recovery, do this.
Device off > vol-up+home+power. And now you are in recovery mode.

Also, avoid doing a factory reset on stock ics. If clearing cache wont help, i'd suggest flashing gb stock rom, doing a wipe and then upgrading to ics as wiping under ics has caused people a lot of troubles.
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Thanks, I had read up how much ever I could, and am pretty wary of the emmc bug. Thats the reason I am flashing to a GB based stock rom, and then the ICS stock rom.
The error I got earlier is by flashing to a Indian GB Stock ROM, should I yet clear cache memory in the recovery mode?
A little bit of googling tells me I should be flashing to a ROM with multiple files (different ones for PDA, Modem, CSC etc) hence I am also downloading the stock Europe based ROM. Now the query is would the stock Europe GB ROM, cause any issues to a Note bought in India?
Edit: I wiped the cache partition in recovery mode, but the bootloop persists. I will try flashing to the Europe GB ROM and update.

Thanks, folks was able to install the Europe stock GB ROM, which I later flashed to an Indian stock ICS ROM. I have rooted the phone by a very helpful guide by Dr Ketan, however I miss some of the functions available to me on the rocket GB based ROM. Especially an option to have a data on/off option in quick notifications.
What is the purpose of rooting the stock ROM? Can I delete the bloatware that comes pre-installed on the stock ROM, once the phone is rooted? If yes how?
Any safe custom ICS ROM's you guys recommend? If I am right the correct way right now seems to be to flash a safe GB based ROM everytime before you flash an ICS ROM? Correct?
Last but not the least, thanks to the folks who replied and guided me in the thread, XDA is a very resourceful place, if you search it thoroughly.

About notification toggles - they are available in some roms, in others - not.
As far as rooting is concerned - yes, you can delete almost all the bloatware. There is a thread with APKs that are safe to remove - check it out and feel free to delete everything you won't be using. How ? Simple file explorer with root capabilities will do. Here's the list, thanks to pulser_g2:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...1gdDJRekl4QmkyNmIzUmRvX2h3UDVkQXc&output=html
Safe custom ICS ROMs - I'd say go for CM9. For me, AOSP is the only way to go with Android. If you want TouchWiz based roms, however, can't really help cause i've never used them - there are plenty in development section though.
Nope, you don't need to flash GB ROM everytime. The problem with wipe affects only stock ICS roms ( so with stock-kernel based roms from Samsung, yeah, that's recommended ). But if you're going to flash/change/update roms like CM9, Criskelo etc. there is no need to go back to GB everytime.

Hi i was on ICS stunner and flash via PC Odin Stock GB rom.
everything goes ok but now i'm stuck on Samsung logo (bootloop)
i have to do cache/dalvik wip but i have only stock recovery.
Is there any way to do that on stock recovery or i have to flash a CWM instead ?
And if i have to so how to do that ?
help guys

arturutrata91 said:
Hi i was on ICS stunner and flash via PC Odin Stock GB rom.
everything goes ok but now i'm stuck on Samsung logo (bootloop)
i have to do cache/dalvik wip but i have only stock recovery.
Is there any way to do that on stock recovery or i have to flash a CWM instead ?
And if i have to so how to do that ?
help guys
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Download abyss from the following site:
http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/...rnel/AbyssNotekernel42CWTouchOriginalLogo.tar
Flash the file with PC odin then reboot into abyss recovery. You can then do the wipe.
If you need more information, go to this website:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-note-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-gt-n7000-method-2odinheimdall/

[Q] the process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly

I'm currently running the latest CM9 on it with moboot... It seems like every time it boots up it pops up with that error message and literally won't go away and you have to reboot the device.. the only way I've found to temporarily fix it is to just wipe cache.... but it always comes back.
Is there any way to prevent this from popping up? It happened when I was on Classicnerd BUTTA too.

Wipe the system and caches, then reflash

I had this problem as well a while back. Wiping caches and reflashing the ROM worked for me.

And you guys didn't have the problem again, after that?

Help manually moving contacts and choosing a JB ROM.
If a pro could help me out I would appreciate it very much. I have been trying to move from a dangerous ICS build to JB and I am having this same problem.
My N7000 previously had this on it:
android 4.03
radio 19220zclp6
kernal version 3.0.15-i9220zclp1-cl131270 (bad ics kernal)
build number midnote 2.0 iml74k.zclp1
So I used ODIN to flash it to a GB rom but I got the com.android.process error and my phone would lock up.
So then I found this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997 and flashed this ROM "N7000UBLR3 N7000UVOLR1 - Download - Argentina" from the bottom of the page. I wiped only the the cache (not the phone reset) and flashed it again but I still get the process error and phone locking up. I don't even know if this ROM is a safe ROM!!
Am I even on a safe kernal now? kernal n7000ublr3-cl890184 build imm76d.ublr3
What I need help doing is the following.
1. Before doing a full wipe, I need to either manually save my contacts to my PC or back them up. (no apps work but my pc can browse my phone) If I knew where my contacts were located, maybe I can manually copy them to my pc? So any help saving data from a partially unusable phone would help.
2. Flash to a safe GB rom, so I can then do the full wipes safely and then flash to a stable JB rom. (I have no clue which roms to choose here and need help).
Thanks for any help..