Hi, I've been using a note for about a month and a half now, and all has been well.
Until about two weeks ago, when my phone started charging very slowly via USB. Using a 2.1amp charger, it takes about 4-6 hours to charge, and about 7-8 hours using a 1.1amp USB charger. The less said about 0.5 amp chargers the better!
However, when I'm charging using a 1.1amp charger (Standard USB output), often when at 15 or less percent of the battery, if I still use the phone while plugged in, it actually drains power faster than the USB port can provide it! It will often shut itself down and give me a "extreme low battery" screen, meaning I can't turn it back on until it has some charge in it... which can take up to 20 minutes via the same USB port/wall adaptor
Running stock 2.3.6, unrooted.
You could have a faulty or dirty micro-usb port or a faulty battery.
John.
TheRealCJ said:
Hi, I've been using a note for about a month and a half now, and all has been well.
Until about two weeks ago, when my phone started charging very slowly via USB. Using a 2.1amp charger, it takes about 4-6 hours to charge, and about 7-8 hours using a 1.1amp USB charger. The less said about 0.5 amp chargers the better!
However, when I'm charging using a 1.1amp charger (Standard USB output), often when at 15 or less percent of the battery, if I still use the phone while plugged in, it actually drains power faster than the USB port can provide it! It will often shut itself down and give me a "extreme low battery" screen, meaning I can't turn it back on until it has some charge in it... which can take up to 20 minutes via the same USB port/wall adaptor
Running stock 2.3.6, unrooted.
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I have the same problem. My Note is new and I don't think the battery is faulty
With stock ICS in comparison to GB, it consumes more juice thus takes longer time recharging.
This is normal, but sad.
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Same here
I have the exactly same problem and ended up here, while searching on google if there are othere with similar observations. I can as well comfirm that during playing certain games the phone looses charger faster than it can be recharged.
Beside that my phone overally looses battery much faster than it used to be.
I found out that you can recharge the phone considerably faster when it is completely turned off.
[edit:] The problem started after the update to Android 4.0.
Now I have no way out but to root my SGN running stock ICS that allows me to do more customization.
I am using SetCPU to limit CPU clock at 1200 MHz (from 1400 max). Only certain apps really requiring CPU power, I specifically allow them to run at max MHz.
This helps reducing recharging time a lot...a lot (even much faster than charging when on GB) and allows more time in outdoor uses. And there is no lag.
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I've found the total opposite, I find charging in ICS (Stock not a custom as I've not tried one) to be loads faster at charging than in Gingerbread.
What programs do you have constantly running? The more that's running, the more juice it's gonna use and therefore the slower the charging will be.
How long does it take to charge with the phone off?
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Same problem with charging as well.I an using ics 4.0.3 cpw version and it draws more than it gets from the usb charger.
I also experienced slow charging before.
What I do is to close all the applications and see if that works.
Same thing happened wid me... Its Kernel fault.. Try changing kernel.. It will help
Noted by the BEAST!!
Look for runaway tasks consuming high CPU and maxing out the CPU clock rate. You can use a CPU monitor like System Panel Lite, and also simply feel the phone at the rear near the camera. If it is hot you have a problem of some process going nuts.
This is a classic problem I've faced on ICS and I've given up with it and gone back to GB. No problems since.
TheRealCJ said:
Hi, I've been using a note for about a month and a half now, and all has been well.
Until about two weeks ago, when my phone started charging very slowly via USB. Using a 2.1amp charger, it takes about 4-6 hours to charge, and about 7-8 hours using a 1.1amp USB charger. The less said about 0.5 amp chargers the better!
However, when I'm charging using a 1.1amp charger (Standard USB output), often when at 15 or less percent of the battery, if I still use the phone while plugged in, it actually drains power faster than the USB port can provide it! It will often shut itself down and give me a "extreme low battery" screen, meaning I can't turn it back on until it has some charge in it... which can take up to 20 minutes via the same USB port/wall adaptor
Running stock 2.3.6, unrooted.
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Just to clarify, a standard USB port on a pc/laptop can only provide 500mA not 1.1amp. Not sure where you got this value from. Therefore it will not provide anywhere near the required current, especially if you are actively using the phone. Most cheapo car chargers are also innadequate at 500mA. The standard sumsung wall charger only provides 1000mA.
What 2.1Amp charger are you using? Its not recommended to use more than the standard samsung charger outputs !
You need 1000 mA (1 A) charger for proper recharge even on GB.
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You need 1000 mA (1 A) charger for proper recharge even on GB.
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1A is the standard Samsung charger.
So is it okay to force the note to use the 1 A ? standard it is set on 700mA
You can adjust the charging control with Voltage Control
I too started having this problem yesterday after updating to a recent version of Visual Voicemail Plus. Even charging from the wall outlet could barely keep up. Turns out the problem was VVMP continually polling NON-STOP for voicemail. Reverted back to older version and problem ceased immediately.
My point....your problem might be software and not hardware. I'm still on rooted and overclocked GB with franco.kernel.
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data cable will charge slower via usb port.
I'm using non-data cable to charge via usb port, it's way faster. Only cons is that u won't be able to transfer any data.
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1A is the standard Samsung charger.
So is it okay to force the note to use the 1 A ? standard it is set on 700mA
You can adjust the charging control with Voltage Control
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I have been using HTC & Samsung wall chargers, Belkin 1A in car. All chargers provide fast recharge. However, the quality & length of USB cables are crucial.
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Just to clarify things, the 2.1amp charger is a USB battery pack, and the 1.1 amp charger is a USB wall adaptor. I'm running 2.3.6 GINGERBREAD, unrooted.
There are two charging rates, slow via the USB data cable, and faster via the charger (where the D- and D+ pins of the USB are shorted). If it thinks that you are using a computer USB when you are in fact using a charger, your charging will be at the lower rate.
I had this problem of slow charging and the cause was a dirty connector, get some electronic connection cleaner from an electronics store and spray the USB connection and cables - that fixed my slow charging problem.
Andrew
I'll give that a try, thanks
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Is anyone else having this problem?
Any work around to having it actually charge the battery up?
it uses electricity faster than its recharging its crap! ive never known any device do this. When im low on battery and have it connected to my computer i have to switch it to the mains for 30 mins. Its terrible, bad design fault
I have the same problem with my Toshiba G900 (WVGA too). Very slow on USB, but normal fast at standard charging or car charging. USB is very bad for this at all.
it really depends on what you're doing with the phone, its unlikely to charge when busy, its a lot faster at charging than my old advantage, im actually impressed!
have you made sure that you've not ticked turn off charging whilst connected to a computer?
charged in under 3hours whilst on connected to ubuntu yesterday.
don't u guys realized how many amperes that a USB socket and your PC (as well as the power supply) allowed compared to a wall socket?
usb chargin usually is never worth it.
I don't understand your disappointment, usb voltage/ampere are the same for all devices, even for my touch when used as modem doesn't supply enough power for charging seriously
Does it even charge at all via USB when the X1 is on idle? If it does, how long does it take from low to full?
I left my X1 idle on USB for 6 hours, it was nearly flat when I put it on and after 6 hours it was still 1 bar below full. Whereas my LG Viewty fully charged in about 2 hours. My Universal only takes about 3 hours
So in my case, comparing the three phones, you can see where my dissapointment originates from.
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I left my X1 idle on USB for 6 hours, it was nearly flat when I put it on and after 6 hours it was still 1 bar below full. Whereas my LG Viewty fully charged in about 2 hours. My Universal only takes about 3 hours
So in my case, comparing the three phones, you can see where my dissapointment originates from.
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But remember the size of battery the x1 has maybe the 1500 comes into play.
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But remember the size of battery the x1 has maybe the 1500 comes into play.
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Well, of course. Xperia's battery is bigger. That's like complaining that your glass fills up faster than your pool. (may be exaggerating a bit )
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But remember the size of battery the x1 has maybe the 1500 comes into play.
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True tho, point taken.....dissapointment level aleviating.....slightly....
After my phone beeped saying the battery was low, I plugged it into my USB hub (which has a mains supply). An hour later I removed the cable and the phone beeped again.
At least with my P990 I was able to gain some charge, it seems like with the X1 it just stops the battery running down.
Try it after Softreset again. I had this problems with an old ROM on my G900 too. After some time it did not charge. Softreset fixed it.
also yall are forgettin that it's a different kinda battery in the x1 compared to other phones it's ising a li-po compared to a li-ion (which is in most other ppc phones) it charges slower via usb because it's tryin to keep from exploding any extra surge that the usb gets could cause your phone to explain
the li-po is more likely to explain given the way it's built
when you use the wall chargers and car chargers the connection are ment fron rapid rechargin of the device unlike the usb which is for data transfer mainly
when you think about the charge time just think about how long it actually takes for your phone to run out of battery life from what i heard it's close to like 1.5 to 2.5 days compared to normal ppc phones that last probably a day at the most with out recharge
hope this help
Keland44 said:
also yall are forgettin that it's a different kinda battery in the x1 compared to other phones it's ising a li-po compared to a li-ion (which is in most other ppc phones) it charges slower via usb because it's tryin to keep from exploding any extra surge that the usb gets could cause your phone to explain
the li-po is more likely to explain given the way it's built
when you use the wall chargers and car chargers the connection are ment fron rapid rechargin of the device unlike the usb which is for data transfer mainly
when you think about the charge time just think about how long it actually takes for your phone to run out of battery life from what i heard it's close to like 1.5 to 2.5 days compared to normal ppc phones that last probably a day at the most with out recharge
hope this help
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Err... this is not true for TP. TP lasts about 2 days on average from normal daily usage and it doesn't have problem charging via USB. Given that the port used is USB 2.0 not 1.1 or below. Took about 2~3 hours from nearly flat to full charge if I remember correctly. I have to try again just to make sure. But definitely not taking 6 hours.
I would've thought that X1 shouldn't have any problem with charging since the battery is only like 150mA more than TP. Also, if it's charging faster from the AC adapter, the same result should be expected when charging from USB port. Doesn't matter the type of battery used. Unless if X1 somehow limits the charging current on purpose when PC USB port is detected. Even though USB 2.0 is actually capable of giving out 1.5A maximum. Try to soft reset it after charging for about 2~3 hours. See if the battery gets fully charged. Some TP users are experiencing this issue as well when the battery meter only updates to fully charged after doing soft reset. Experienced users might want to try and measure the current drawn when charging via USB 2.0 port.
Hope this helps.
On my xperia if i put it in sleep mode, it charges no problem using USB.
the advantage used to charge slower from a usb port, that is until someone found out that the standard ac charger had a short across two of the usb pins, and with a quick mod of a usb cable charged quickly from the usb on a computer
however my x1 charges the same from usb or mains, I use the same cable, but can't see what difference that makes.
there are three conditions that affect charging speeds, whether device is on or not, off charges much faster, whether screen is on or not, screen off charges faster, whether theres good radio signal, if like at home, reception is dodgy it can really draw a lot of juice.
Just for comparison sake, I did a test on my TP just to confirm. Charging via USB 2.0 while it was on idle with screen turned on, from 4% to 100% it took about 2.5 hours and its battery feels warm.
Ok lets clear out some things.
A standard PC USB socket can provide maximum 500mA (milli-Amperes) Current at 5 Volt. Ideally that means that a battery rated at 1500mAh (milli-Amperes-hour) can be charged around 3 hours (minimum). Now, subtract the current that the xperia needs while operating and you will get how many milli-Amperes are left for charging.
Of course in order to know how many current the xperia needs to operate you need to connect an ammeter in series, also keep in mind that current needs change depending on usage (wifi, 3g, bluetooth etc).
So in essence if you USB port is not very good and can't give fully 500mA and the xperia needs a great amount of current to be on, then the charging time can be quite long. A simple formula could be:
xperia_Battery_mAh / (USB_Current - xperia_Current)
Now the mains charger is rated at a greater value than the USBs 500mA. Actually I don't own yet an xperia (waiting patiently to arrive), so I don't know how much current the charger can give. Can someone see what is the rating of the charger?
From other devices I own (that can charge through USB) I've seen that their chargers are rated as high as 2 Amperes. Obviously these devices never draw so much current, it is just a failsafe or it was more cheap for them to bundle a charger like that. But they could draw 800mA of current which the USB port is unable to do so.
Keep in mind that while charging with USB might be longer, generally it can be safer for the battery (longer battery life and more charge/discharge cycles), although I am not so sure about this with excessive charging times in a USB port.
Is there any difference between (USB) charging from computer (Laptop) and charging directly from AC adapter (Samsung provided)?
Because, I was using my phone more than two month with SetCPU for more batter life, and I was able to use 3 or 4 days. But just yesterday I charged from my laptop and was full 100%. But after 21 hours I got 15% battery renaming. It’s seems like drain battery after i charged from Laptop. Anyway I will try to charge today from AC adapter which is Samsung provided with phone.
May I know if any one experienced this.
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Is there any difference between (USB) charging from computer (Laptop) and charging directly from AC adapter (Samsung provided)?
Because, I was using my phone more than two month with SetCPU for more batter life, and I was able to use 3 or 4 days. But just yesterday I charged from my laptop and was full 100%. But after 21 hours I got 15% battery renaming. It’s seems like drain battery after i charged from Laptop. Anyway I will try to charge today from AC adapter which is Samsung provided with phone.
May I know if any one experienced this.
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The only visible difference should be in charging time - AC adapter should do it much faster providing the current of up to 1A (1000mA), much less then that to be expected from PC USB port.
I'd rather search for some rogue app draining the battery, maybe betterbatterystats would be a good place to start.
there wont be any dfference, the battery will get a charge from either but usb as mentioned wil ltake longer to charge
if i got 21hrs from my battery i would not be asking ANY questions!!..
musheercmr said:
Is there any difference between (USB) charging from computer (Laptop) and charging directly from AC adapter (Samsung provided)?
Because, I was using my phone more than two month with SetCPU for more batter life, and I was able to use 3 or 4 days. But just yesterday I charged from my laptop and was full 100%. But after 21 hours I got 15% battery renaming. It’s seems like drain battery after i charged from Laptop. Anyway I will try to charge today from AC adapter which is Samsung provided with phone.
May I know if any one experienced this.
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USB ports are low power
your wall plug has a higher output than your computer USB port
PC USB = 5v 0.5amps
wall plug = 5v 1amp
so a wall plug will charger faster.
use SetCPU governor, I am sure you will get 3 to 4 days (moderate usage). same as mine.
My final finding; If we charge through PC-USB, it will take time to charge and same time, will discharge rapidly. because I charge my phone yesterday with AC-adapter and now my batter level is 13 hours with 95%. While I charge from PC-USB it was 20 hours with 15%. (all time are in moderated usage, and no any apps are not installed during this period)
I don't know how this, but this is my experiences.
I get the same results that's why I don't charge it through my usb port.
I agree with your conclusion that low-power charging just doesn't last on the Note. I was travelling and mistakenly took the wall adapter for my Plantronics BT headset instead of the Sammy adapter. It charges basically at the same rate as the computer usb. It took forever to charge, which was expected, but drained EXTREMELY quickly (10% / hour with almost no usage). By the end of the trip I was keeping it plugged into the charger whenever possible.
Back home on my original charger the phone is behaving like normal again. (84% after 8 hours with BT on and about 20 minutes of talk time / display on)
Background
Hi all, I, for a very short period of time was suffering from the problem of my phone DISCHARGING while it was charging. This made no logical sense to me until I did some research, which I will detail below.
How USB Power works (Roughly)
Firstly let's discuss USB power provisioning. Strictly speaking, the specifications say that any given USB port should provide a maximum of 500mA (or 0.5A) at 5 volts. *Don't shoot me electronics guys, I'm simplifying for ease of explanations sake*. Imagine that ampage as the actual force of the charger, how quickly it can ram power into your phone. Like the rate of flow on a pipe.
The beginning of the problem
This was all fine and dandy when all USB was really used for was Keyboards, Mice, Memory, etc, low current draw devices. Something else I should mention here is that the Ampage that a port CAN provide is not the Ampage it DOES provide - the device draws a certain Ampage and if the USB controller agrees it outputs said Ampage. Later, when USB was beginning to be used for more power hungry applications, ie External hard drives, these required more power than the port could (In theory) provide. However, most more modern motherboards/USB controllers were more than capable of supplying plenty more Ampage if it was requested. This was breaking the specification but not in any massively dangerous way so as such nothing bad happens.
This is where we get to the actual issue people are experiencing here. The Nexus 4 is a standards compliant device in the respect that it seems to only draw 500mA from any USB port no matter what it's potential, unless it's an AC Wall wart. If you're experiencing problems with wakelocks (see XDA) and other things, this causes your phone to draw more than 500mA which means your phone actually discharges while it's charging! Terrible!
This is quite easy to get around, but again I'm going into detail so let's explain how the phone tells the difference between a dumb wall wart and a USB controller. Easily! The USB controller obviously makes use of the data pins found within the USB cable, whereas a wallwart just (almost always) shorts them out. The Nexus 4 can detect this short, and as such draw more power *While still in quotation marks staying in spec*.
The root problem is not with how the N4 is charging, it's with the wakelock you're experiencing which is causing the phone to draw so much power while the screen is off. While the screen is off and the phone is in Deepsleep (A CPU state where it uses very little power) - it should draw no more than 50mA leaving 450mA for charging the battery, but you guys are probably experiencing a wakelock of some sort.
Solutions to the problem or How to break a specification for the good of mankind
The simple solution is to install this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rootuninstaller.batrsaver
This forces the device into a Deep sleep when the screen goes off by killing applications and turning off all internal chipsets that have wakelock capability, most commonly networking on the Nexus 4. This will allow your phone to charge (slowly) off USB without an issue. Another common wakelock is when the device is picked up by your desktop as a media device. The USB controller inside the Nexus 4 forces a wakelock which keeps it from charging. Stupid design, I know.
* A more hackish solution is to install Francos kernel, buy his app, and tick the Fast charging option in the kernel settings dialog. This will force the phone to think that everything is an AC adaptor and will force the phone to draw as much current as it can from the USB port (which on most modern motherboards is fine, and results in extremely quick charging).
* An even simpler solution than all this is to just use a 'USB Charging cable' - this is simply a cable that does not have the Data pins, and as such does exactly the same as what enabling USB fast charge above does. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-USB...487076?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item51a465d124
If you live near a Poundland store here in the UK they sell a 4 in one USB cable type thing which turns 1 USB port into Ipod sync connector, Nokia connector, MicroUSB and MiniUSB, and this doesn't have the data pins and as such is excellent.
One final point, an excellent app for monitoring whether your device is actually charging or not and how quickly is Current widget: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget&hl=en
This widget will tell you how much Ampage is going into or leaving your battery. If the battery icon is green, then it's discharging, if it's black/white then it's charging. The bigger the number, the faster the discharge/charge. This is an extremely easy way to test speed of chargers too.
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Another solution, just use an AC Wall wart - they're cheap as hell and the one supplied with the Nexus 4 is an extremely fast charging one. Shame I've gone and lost mine.
A way to roughly monitor charging current draw
I'd also recommend you install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget&hl=en and monitor, if the battery is green while charging it's discharging and you need a more powerful charger/to figure out what's causing your phone to use so much power.
General good values in Current Widget
I generally saw a max draw of about 750mA for charging (not including draw for powering the device, the Nexus 4 can draw more power to charge and power the device) on my old Rev10 first generation Nexus 4. On my new Rev12 board I'm noticing this increase to about 850mA.
Are higher amperage chargers any benefit to anyone?
Yes and no. You will not notice faster charging unless you use your device while charging. Your nexus will draw as much power as it needs to power the phone while charging at the fastest rate. For example on the stock 1.2a charger
1200mA | 800mA goes to charging 400mA goes to powering the phone idling
Let's say you start a stability test. Your phone will obviously be using a lot more power so this will happen
1200mA | -600mA goes to charging and 1800mA goes to powering the phone stability testing
That minus value above may look strange! Let me explain. If the phone needs more power than the charger can supply, it will draw from the battery. That's the minus number.
If you have a higher ampage charger like for example a 2.5a charger
2500mA | 800mA goes to charging 400mA goes to powering the device
Stability testing
2500mA | 700mA goes to charging 1800mA goes to powering the device
Can you see the difference?
DISCLAIMER: I am not an electronics engineer nor do I claim to be, I am simply a hobbyist and this is what I've found to be the case. Please correct me if I've made any mistakes, I want to learn.
Thanks!
Thanks so much for this post. It's very helpful.
kn100 said:
Another common wakelock is when the device is picked up by your desktop as a media device. The USB controller inside the Nexus 4 forces a wakelock which keeps it from charging. Stupid design, I know.
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This isn't true for everyone then as mine connects and charges just fine off of my laptop and desktop when connected as a media device. In fact its on my laptop right now charging, gone from 68% to 81% in about 30 minutes and it shows connected as a portable media player.
Great info! Thanks for writing this!
In certain use cases the Nexus4 discharges faster than it charges and this is a very useful guide.
I use my phone for navigation in my car and having the GPS on and the screen at high brightness
drains the battery faster than the 0.5A car chargers can supply. Car chargers rated for 2.0A work well.
I haven't tried a 'USB charging cable' with the data pins shorted, it may work as well.
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Great info! Thanks for writing this!
In certain use cases the Nexus4 discharges faster than it charges and this is a very useful guide.
I use my phone for navigation in my car and having the GPS on and the screen at high brightness
drains the battery faster than the 0.5A car chargers can supply. Car chargers rated for 2.0A work well.
I haven't tried a 'USB charging cable' with the data pins shorted, it may work as well.
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was over in Nexus 7 forums and the 4.2.x kernel should have solved the problem at least for having to use shorted cables. have to wait and see if 4.2.2 brings any more changes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984838
Section 6 in this link is about power supplied through USB
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
I can't tell if we have an updated kernel allowing faster usb charging as I'm limited by the power output of the usb port in my laptop. The output (5V at 500mA max) is controlled by the laptop (USB Standards) and it doesn't matter what the phone or cable is capable of as that's the max it will give out and that's about what I'm charging at. If I had a dedicated charging port in my laptop then it would be different and I could see if its able to draw more power. I have a 1.0 amp port in my car and it does charge at the higher amperage, I would assume it would do the same thing if I had a 2 amp usb port in the car. So I think the stock kernel has the fast usb charge built in it just depends upon if you have a usb port capable of providing a faster charger, it has nothing to do with the cable as I'm using a standard unmodified micro usb cable and its able to draw the max a usb device is able to put out.
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thanks for a great detailed post!!!
I have the same trouble with my N4 when I was charging while using my phone...
I find it very slow... I guess I've been spoiled by my previous iPhone (which charges fairly fast)....
i might be stating the obvious but I find the phone charged "a lot" faster when it's OFF
if you are running low with your battery and need a quick 10 min charge, just do yourself a favour by turning off your phone...
the difference is quite significant!
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This isn't true for everyone then as mine connects and charges just fine off of my laptop and desktop when connected as a media device. In fact its on my laptop right now charging, gone from 68% to 81% in about 30 minutes and it shows connected as a portable media player.
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Yup, me too. It only discharges while charging when I am playing like NFS most wanted.
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The issue with cables is with the LG usb wall charger as the one supplied isn't capable of getting the 5 volts at 1.2 amps that the charger is rated at, mine is getting around 300 - 400 mA. The micro usb cable I have in my car and use with my laptop (for charging and data transfer) is able to handle the higher amperage, it gets around 1 amp with the LG plug. There are no specs on these cables so I can't list a definitive difference and I would assume that the cable mod in the OP might help with the LG cable. It also might just be simpler to only buy those cables capable of handling higher amperage as obviously they are out there from my experience.
The cable I'm using is an RCA coiled charging/syncing cable model AH732CBR (has data pins). The maximum I'm getting from this is about 870 mA regardless of the amperage of the usb port, I've tried a 1.0, 1.2 and 2.1 and they are all around 870 mA on current widget. I would suppose if I could find a strictly charging cable I could get higher (link to ebay in OP is outdated) but this is still 2x that which I'm getting from the LG cable supplied with the phone which only puts out 300-400 mA. Our phone also has Qualcomm's quick charge which is supposed to improve battery charging times by 40%.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/02/1...allows-your-device-to-charge-up-to-40-faster/
How do you measure how much mA the device draw from the charger?
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How do you measure how much mA the device draw from the charger?
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current widget, link is in the OP
kzoodroid said:
The cable I'm using is an RCA coiled charging/syncing cable model AH732CBR (has data pins). The maximum I'm getting from this is about 870 mA regardless of the amperage of the usb port, I've tried a 1.0, 1.2 and 2.1 and they are all around 870 mA on current widget. I would suppose if I could find a strictly charging cable I could get higher (link to ebay in OP is outdated) but this is still 2x that which I'm getting from the LG cable supplied with the phone which only puts out 300-400 mA. Our phone also has Qualcomm's quick charge which is supposed to improve battery charging times by 40%.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/02/1...allows-your-device-to-charge-up-to-40-faster/
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Bit of a late reply but please bear in mind the Nexus will NOT draw anything more than about 800mAh from the wall for charging alone. That is the absolute max and is a hardware limit - If the cable is transmitting that and it's showing in current widget you've got a good setup. See the added section in OP for more info on higher amperage chargers.
Hey guys, I just bought my One a couple weeks ago and I'm loving it so far. However, I'm having an issue with the USB charging speed.
I know USB charging speed is slower than wall charging speeds, but the speeds I have been getting are ridiculous. To charge my phone from 0-100 takes about 9 hours over USB when the phone is in sleep mode and not being used. Can anyone else tell me if they're getting the same kind of extremely slow USB charging speeds? Is this normal for the phone? I've been thinking about replacing it and seeing how the next one fares.
I'm charging in usb 3.0 port and takes 5h
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I haven't timed it, but yes USB charging is very slow in general and especially on this phone. I've had several HTC Ones, and had the same experience.
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coisman said:
Hey guys, I just bought my One a couple weeks ago and I'm loving it so far. However, I'm having an issue with the USB charging speed.
I know USB charging speed is slower than wall charging speeds, but the speeds I have been getting are ridiculous. To charge my phone from 0-100 takes about 9 hours over USB when the phone is in sleep mode and not being used. Can anyone else tell me if they're getting the same kind of extremely slow USB charging speeds? Is this normal for the phone? I've been thinking about replacing it and seeing how the next one fares.
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Some Kernels have an option for fast charge which is supposed to help with it but certain usb ports only put out a certain amount of power. Also I know a problem with the OG note was with fast charge enabled a few charging ports burnt out (mine included). It was easy to replace them on that phone but this one will be more difficult if it does the same thing.
The problem is that the phone sees the difference between an AC charger and a usb charger. With an AC charger it can charge with a maximum around 850mA while with an USB charger it charges with an maximum of 500mA.
There properbly is a trick how to make the phone think it's on AC charger, while it's actually on an USB charger, and therefore charge with a higher current, but I haven't found out how yet.
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The problem is that the phone sees the difference between an AC charger and a usb charger. With an AC charger it can charge with a maximum around 850mA while with an USB charger it charges with an maximum of 500mA.
There properbly is a trick how to make the phone think it's on AC charger, while it's actually on an USB charger, and therefore charge with a higher current, but I haven't found out how yet.
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Depends on the current battery level of the phone. Anything above 83%(somewhere around there), even on AC charger it will slow down to 500mAh at most.
I've been having a repeatable problem. I have a Note 9 that will charge faster when I disable fast charging under battery settings. I tested the load being drawn with a USB Power meter these are the results I got.
Using a USB-A to USB-C cable:
When QC is enabled:
Phone draws 0.5amp charge, 10ohms resistance at 5.02V.
When QC is disabled:
Phone draws 1.2 amps, 3.9 ohms resistance, at 5.02V
I am using the same cable, same power bank. The power bank's USB-A port is able to draw ~1.9 amps at 5V, tested using a USB Meter and Load Tester that will put the USB under 1 amp and 2 amp loads at 5V, with resistance being ~2.7 ohms without the power bank turning off. I haven't tested the power bank at 9V, I don't have a 9V load tester
When I immediately switch from QC to non QC, the results above are repeatable.
Things I Have Done So Far:
Reboot Phone
Clear Phone Cache
Reboot Into Safe Mode
Try Different Charging Cables, Blocks, including OEM parts.
Every once in a while, it will switch back to being able to QC fast charge but it is random.
If I use a Power delivery capable block charger, it will charge at ~2750mA (I dont have other numbers like amps, voltage, or resistance, I'm still waiting on a USB-C meter)
My phone's wireless charging has no problem operating at it's max capacity
Any one else have this problem? Anything else I could do before I factory reset my phone?
I posted about losing Fast Charge thru the stock cable a while back and got no answers or a fix. I have not tried turning off the option to see if it charges any faster. It takes almost 2 to 3hrs to fully charge at this point. I'll take any fix or work around at this point.
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I posted about losing Fast Charge thru the stock cable a while back and got no answers or a fix. I have not tried turning off the option to see if it charges any faster. It takes almost 2 to 3hrs to fully charge at this point. I'll take any fix or work around at this point.
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Turning off fast charge made my charging a bit better. With Fast Charge (FC) turned on, I was getting 0.5amps (gave around 400-500mA). Turning FC off, sped up my charging by 50%, charging at 1.2 amp (roughly gave me 800-1000mA; Both charges were at 5V). Im able to charge at around 1000 mA with this setup, a little less than wireless quick charge. No idea why turning it off helped.
Another workaround that brought my charging speed WAY UP, to 2500mA, was buying a Power Delivery (PD) capable block WITH A USB-C to USB-C cable. I can get normal fast charging speeds with that setup.
I cant get FC with USB-A to USB-C cables, which is frustrating as most of my charging blocks are the regular USB-A input port.
Hope this helps you. 2-3 hour charge is brutal.
What's even weirder is in my car my phone would barely charge. But since I lost FC at home, it started working in the car. So in my car I can FC but not at home. I even tried the wire I use in the car and still nothing. Idk what is going on
Is it possible that turning off QC is turning off a regulation in the software to keep the battery from overheating? With this regulation turned off that would normally be on when quickcharging, the regulation is not active, thus causing the battery to charge at a less regulated speed, causing charging to be faster? Maybe there's a QC bug currently that's hampering it's full potential? What software version are you guys currently?
I just checked QC on mine on the latest Xfinity version and no matter what charger or cable I use with the function, it is working.
It's def not a software thing. I'm on latest October patch. Samsung told me that they have seen some issue with the charging port and once it goes bad there is nothing to do but replace it. They told me to bring it in to a store for repair thru my carrier. Haven't had a chance to go.
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Is it possible that turning off QC is turning off a regulation in the software to keep the battery from overheating? With this regulation turned off that would normally be on when quickcharging, the regulation is not active, thus causing the battery to charge at a less regulated speed, causing charging to be faster? Maybe there's a QC bug currently that's hampering it's full potential? What software version are you guys currently?
I just checked QC on mine on the latest Xfinity version and no matter what charger or cable I use with the function, it is working.
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That what I was thinking. Something is actively limiting the charge coming in. Everytime I had quick charge enabled I've been monitoring the ohms and the resistance would automatically jump to 10ohms. Then I disable QC and the resistance automatically drops to around 6 ohms.
I'm running Android Pie 9.0, Kernel version 4.9.112
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It's def not a software thing. I'm on latest October patch. Samsung told me that they have seen some issue with the charging port and once it goes bad there is nothing to do but replace it. They told me to bring it in to a store for repair thru my carrier. Haven't had a chance to go.
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That what I was thinking. Something is actively limiting the charge coming in. Everytime I had quick charge enabled I've been monitoring the ohms and the resistance would automatically jump to 10ohms. Then I disable QC and the resistance automatically drops to around 6 ohms.
I'm running Android Pie 9.0, Kernel version 4.9.112
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Yeah it could definitely be hardware related as well, due to each pin on a type c charging serving different purposes. There are two specific pins(I think it's two), that are responsible for enabling higher input of electricity. Couple years ago Google made comments about the cheap Amazon knock off cables and why they failed after a short while. Wouldn't surprise me if Samsung cheaped up for the cables and port on the device. I'll have to try and find the articles I read concerning the pins.
Here's a good start to understanding Type C.
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/te...pe-c-which-pins-power-delivery-data-transfer/
Its the **** cable they supply with the phone.
I had all the same problems.
I noticed that when I turn off quick charge the phone can charge at 5v 1.7 amps. (USB doctor).
When I turn on quick charge it can only charge at 5 volts 0.40 amps.
The phone is trying to charge at 9 volts but for some reason cant so it goes into this safe mode.
I purchased a new Samsung cable it lasted for a week and developed the same problem.
A hint when it develops this problem Dex stops working.
I tried all kinds of cables. One Plus 5, and a few others. I finally got it to work again with my wifes one plus 6 cable.
Im now researching USB Type C ports and USB standard 2, 3, 3.1, 3.2
As well the quick charge tech used by Samsung. Its not Quick Charge 2. Its a proprietary standard.
So if your having problems with quick charge it could be due to your cable or your Port. Things very rarely go wrong with the charger. Also get yourself a USB Doctor. Its a big help. And only costs a few bucks.
Hope this helps somebody out there.
Right now I am trying to compare Note 9 vs Note 20 USB cable.