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hi, new member here.
bought my tilt on 10/4/07. has been flawless since that time.
used the nav quite a bit during a road trip, used a cig lighter usb charger.
got home and my battery was at roughly 40%.
put it on the charger at night went to sleep. in morning disconnected it at 8 am. shortly after i arrived at work i got the critical battery low chime. checked and it had like 7% battery life.
figured i didnt plug it in right, or it got knocked loose some how and didnt get charged.
put it in flight mode to minimize battery usage. left work at 2 30 pm (4% battery life) and put it on the car charger. got home and put it on the HTC supplied wall charger. light turned amber, so i assumed it was charging.
checked an hour later and turned phone on, it said 0%, and immediately died. left it on the charger for a few hours and the light was still amber, turned it back on and again 0% and phone immediately died and did a soft reset on its own. i turned the phone off and left it on the ac charger, took out the sim card and put it in an old blackberry to use while the battery was charging.
its been on the ac wall charger for the last several hours, i checked and the phone is totally dead, cannot turn it on, and the LED at the top is now RED.
what is the problem here? why wont this thing charge?
thanks in advance, i have alot of critical info on this device and any help would be greatly appreciated.
i cannot hard reset because i cannot turn the flippign thing on....
Does it charge when you connect it to your computer? If it does, then your charger is toast. If not, then it's probably the phone itself.
I'd try a different charger first. If that makes no difference then a different battery. If that still does not make any difference then time to exchange it.
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Does it charge when you connect it to your computer? If it does, then your charger is toast. If not, then it's probably the phone itself.
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connected to either the computer or the wall charger, the LED thats normally amber when charging, and green when charged, remains red.
I had something very similar happen to my wizard.
And as weird as it sounds, the only fix was to charge the battery in a friends wizard on his charger. I'd check the battery if possible.
Could be the battery. Know any place or anyone that will let you try a charged battery? If not, you might have to go in to an AT&T store.
i think i got it working. did some reading/browsing...
took a usb wire and cut the mini usb head off. dissected it and found the the red and black charging wires. took out the battery and held the leads to teh battery while the other end was plugged into a USB/AC adapter wall charger from a old blackberry. after manually charging the battery for several minutes, i put the battery back in the phone and the phone started up. now it seems to be charging off the wall charger and the led is now amber from red.
thanks for all your help/suggestions.
well it worked briefly. the amber light has gone back to red and it seems that the battery is not charging.
dont know what happened to my perfectly functioning phone.
tiltyoself said:
well it worked briefly. the amber light has gone back to red and it seems that the battery is not charging.
dont know what happened to my perfectly functioning phone.
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Repeat this proceedure but this time do not turn the phone on, just plug it in to the wall charger once you have zapped the battery again.
Turning your phone on probably just caused the already recovering battery to die whiles it is trying to take on a charge.
It is mentioned quite a lot on the boards that Li-Ion Batteries do not like being over disscharged and there is usually a little protection circuit in the battery to provent complete disscharging although this circuit may be on board the phone. Completely disscharging a Li-Ion cell will kill it stone dead and it will need replacing.
When you took the battery out and so called jump started it with your flying leads, this possibly reset the little protection circuit in the battery so it can now take on a charge. I feel that once you turned on the phone, this was to much for the already depleted cell to take and possibly re-tripped its inbuilt circuit.
If you do manage to recover you cell, in future it is good practice not to let the battery go below about 25%. Li-ion cells are generally happy being top off regularly.
I hope this helps buddy
Do let us know!
Cheers
C.
thanks, that was very helpful.
ive tried defibrillating this battery out of the dead several more times to no avail.
ill try it one more time when i get home from work, if its a no go i will go to teh att core store. the phone is 6 weeks old, dont know what they can do for me if the battery is toast...
That Sucks! I hope they'll give you a new battery.
tiltyoself said:
thanks, that was very helpful.
ive tried defibrillating this battery out of the dead several more times to no avail.
ill try it one more time when i get home from work, if its a no go i will go to teh att core store. the phone is 6 weeks old, dont know what they can do for me if the battery is toast...
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I had exactly the same problem with my battery. It came on though after a day. Although the battery life after this happened went down to 10hrs max on standby. I sent the phone back and got a new one and now all is fine.
This is a problem that affects almost all makes of phone. There are three (main) causes of the problem:
1.
The battery charge drops too low to allow the charging circuit to recognise a battery is even in place (red no charge light stays lit)
possible solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...22&postcount=6
(in the end very similar in the end to the USB wire used in post above)
2.
A faulty battery (but if you can charge it using a cut usb cable or using a couple of AA batteries this may not be a faulty battery.
3.
A faulty charger OR a charger not delivering 5v at 1000mA as the OEM one does. Many chargers that are used for other phones or generic chargers only deliver 500mA. This is not enough when your battery drops very low. (these chargers are OK for occasional use but I do not advise using them regularly particularly if the no-charge syndrome has shown itself)
4.
A faulty USB connection on the phone. I have now seen a couple of reports where the fine wire connections in the phones USB port have become bent out of place.
Number 4 above is at least possible for the OP as it seems the battery will charge using a cut USB cable but not when either the PC USB cable or mains charger is connected. A USB port on the phone with a a bent internal contact would explain what's happening.
A previous poster was able with a needle or similar to bend the contact back into place.
Mike
i had the same problem with my phone.
put it in the charger overnight and woke up in the morning and couldnt turn on the phone with blinking red light. I don't know if my battery was over-drained though. I went to AT&T and was playing around with their charger and new battery and somehow the so-called dead battery started working again. They changed the SIM card on my phone there and then i haven't been able to use the phone since. I've changed the network to GSM instead of Auto setting under Phone Options which allows us to make calls; but now I can't connect to 3G network.
Charging thru mini usb
My phone started to exhibit similar problems...plugged in but no charging of the battery. I finally realized that my mini usb connection on the phone has been compromised (bent, distorted=not functioning properly) Now I have to prop the mini usb connection up at a slight angle to engage the charge. I think the plastic/metallic connector on the phone is somewhat fragile ...I had similar issues with my hermes.
called customer support.
they are sending me a new phone and battery.
how do i know its not a refurbished one? any clues?
before u send out your defect phone, have u check if your phone's mini-USB connector has bent or misaligned pins?
yeah all the connectors visually are fine.
Ok guys i hope some one can help with this ...It all started yesterday when i tried to charge my phone. it kept saying charging at 0% and it stood like that for hours. so i tried another charger & battery and the same thing. I even called t-mobile and they told me i could be a hardware problem, so i was woundering if theres any chance it could still get fixed ??? i am willing to pay if anyone can fix my phone i am located in los angeles pm me if your up to it .
thanks in advance.. if phone is not fixable i will be selling it for parts!!
Tmobile should give you a replacent! Free of charge.
and umm have you tried taking out the battery leaving out for a minute or 2 and then putting it back and trying to charge it?
That is correct.
So long as you are still under warranty, T-Mobile will issue you a replacement phone.
However, if you have any root/modded firmware, you may want to revert back to Stock.
ya i called t-mobile and they said that since i bought the phone off a friend that it void the waranty ...so im stuck with a bad g1 till i get another one and or sell this one for parts...how much would you guys say its worth for parts it works but it has to be plug in at all times>
Not sure if you have access to this, but you may want to try switching out the batteries with a friend. If that doesn't work, go to any T-Mo store and tell them you need to test the battery/phone.
If it works on a new battery, your solution is there. Buy a new one for about $20-$50
It's worth a shot, considering you'd be selling someone a good phone for cheap, lol.
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Hello, I also have the same problem with it charging. The usb port seems to work, I bought a new battery and it still doing the same thing. So I built a charger that I can just stick the battery in and I just swap them out. The phone shows the orange light and also says it is charging but it does not charge the battery.
fireman1937 said:
Hello, I also have the same problem with it charging. The usb port seems to work, I bought a new battery and it still doing the same thing. So I built a charger that I can just stick the battery in and I just swap them out. The phone shows the orange light and also says it is charging but it does not charge the battery.
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I have exactly the same problem, i tested with 3 different batteries, oem cables, wipe phone, factory reset, and im in the same situation.
HELP! any idea to fix this?
btw
i dont have warranty, i bought about 1.5 years ago, unlocked one, i live outside usa
Alienmike said:
I have exactly the same problem, i tested with 3 different batteries, oem cables, wipe phone, factory reset, and im in the same situation.
HELP! any idea to fix this?
btw
i dont have warranty, i bought about 1.5 years ago, unlocked one, i live outside usa
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Buy a stand-alone battery charger. Search google for "g1 battery charger" and buy a product similar to this: http://www.netimes.com/shop/desktop-cradle-with-2nd-battery-charger-for-google-g1-p-1506.html
There is probably something wrong with the charging circuit inside the phone and this *should* be a decent work-around for it.
I had this problem with my old HTC Wizard... I just hacked the end off a usb cable and taped the 5v line to the battery terminals to charge it.
I am NOT recommending this as a solution.. but I still have both hands and a functional face.
Ive been having the exact same issue with my G1 phone since updating to the latest Cyanogen rom. Im not saying that the ROM caused the issue, but that the issue developed on the same day I did the update.
I contacted T-Mo and they have shipped me a brand new phone. I had to un-root and go back to the stock ROM, but that was not big deal.
It was definitely an issue with the charging circuit. I have two G1's and was able to charge the battery in the spare phone.
Can anyone help me with my issue. i had a old battery on my g1 that got expanded and wouldnt hold a charge for that long it would just die. Now i bought 2 new batteries and charged them till they were full. Now when the phone dies and i plug in the charger to charge the new batteries they do not charge. I have to put my old expanded battery charge it till its green take the old battery out then put the new one in and then it the led will come on saying its charging. When I try and charge the new batteries when the phone is off it says its charging but the percentage doesnt go up. Anyone have a reason why these batteries wont charge while on, and the only way they will charge when off is if i put the old expanded battery in first charge then charge the new ones. Im running a rooted g1 on 1.6, I just dont understand why I cant charge the new batteries when the phone is on, or when its off unless i use that method. ANy help would be appreciated and thanks in advance.
Oh yea I have had the phone since launch and im sure the warranty is expired.
You have to change the phone motherboard. Its a hardware problem.
Only solution : Send it for a replacement!
Also my phone is dying fast with the new battery the display and idle is eating it up. I know I can reset my battery stats but when i reset them at 100% i cant reboot and charge to 100% because the phone wont charge while on......Do you guys think if i got a external wall charger i could charge the batteries and they would work. My phone might be reading my old battery stats thats why it doesnt last that long even on new battery
I had the exact same problem, my phone would charge when i plugged it in to the pc but not in the OEM wall charger, so i bought a usb wall charger adapter and used my pc data cable plug and it worked perfectly. Ebay sells them for 4-6 bucks with an additional pc plug, just search htc g1 wall usb adapter charger.
I understand that much time has left, but I have the same problem, the phone is not charging(but 'speaks' that charging is going on). I don't know about the others, but I have noticed that phone can charge in fastboot mode. It charging very slow and I think it because the screen is always on and white(Spl: 1.33.0013d).
It charges only after a strict sequence of actions:
1. When the phone is off turn it to fastboot(power+back)
2. Wait for several secconds.
3. Plug in charger wire.
There is no result in other sequences. I have measured the battery by voltmeter and voltage is truly rising. But LED is off while charging and also phone is warming.
Like others, I tried to change batteries and chargers with no results.
It looks like many users have the same problem, and maybe it can be solved by software methods.
At least maybe there is some way to charge it like in fastboot, but with screen off? It would be more faster.
I've tried to use some programs like battery calibrator, but they are not purposed for such things.
try leaving the battery out for a while, than put it in device and d not power on, plug in the charger and let it charge for a couple hours, than boot into recovery and wipe battery stats, reboot and see if anything changes...
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try leaving the battery out for a while, than put it in device and d not power on, plug in the charger and let it charge for a couple hours, than boot into recovery and wipe battery stats, reboot and see if anything changes...
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I've tried doing so, but it doesn't charge at all while the power if off(but LED is RED). Although I have wiped battery stats now and many times before after 100% charging in fastboot mode with no result.
The question is in difference between charging in fastboot mode and other modes.Maybe someone knows this difference and will help with this problem.
It doesn't charge in recovery mode, while the power is off, when the power is on (system says that it is charging but the percents are going down), and in all of this states LED is working well(Green, Orange, Red). In fastboot mode the LED is off but the charging is going on. Maybe there is a way to emulate fastboot charging mode in system drivers.
By the way, I have changed several ROM's after problem has appeared. Now it is COS-DS(07192011).
I hope that someone will help me and other users who have this problem.
hmmm, wow that is strange... could possibly be a hardware issue... doesn't sound like anything a custom rom would cause, hope you can find an answer to your issue
Figure out... A long story!
I bought a vehicle charger for my beloved Xperia X1. Suddenly, the fusible of the charger blowed.
I tried to charge in my original charger AND in PC USB and the phone showed AC indicator. But the battery was still being drained until it finishes.
Checked battery and it was in 3.7v (it should be 4.2v). So, o plugged the USB power straight in battery, to send 5.0v. Charged just a little bit, turned on the phone, then it was dead. Forever.
Ok, I bought a new battery. The stupid seller from MercadoLivre (Brazilian eBay) sent me a BST-40 (3.7v) instead os BST-41 (original 4.2v). Wasn't the same size, but I made the connection. The phone turned on!! Amazing. But, altought It was plugged in wall charger, the battery keeps draining.
I ordered a external charger and a new battery. It takes 15 days to arrive =/.
So, someonde could (PLEASE) use a voltimeter and measure the voltage from PHONE without Battery and PLUGGED in original charger? Mine is telling now 3.325v.
I'm still hoping that nothing happened to my phone...
Hey guys.I just got my Xperia X1 and I noticed that even if I charged my phone to 100% after I unplug the cable (I use my USB cable to charge it) that battery meter goes to 95% the second I unplug it.If I send a text or two it will go lower.By the end of the day it will be around 50-60% left.I tried looking for a fix about that but nothing came up.
Is that a common problem for the X1?BTW the phone is brand new and the battery is the original one that came with the phone.
Thank you in advance
First I think you must charge your (new?) battery at least ten times to get full capacity. Secondly I think I remember there's a way to calibrate the battery. Look in settings or even better the manual or perhaps best, search the forums.
GL,A.D
Thank you for your answer.I checked the forum but not much came up about recalibration.I checked the phones settings and I can't find anything about batery calibration
are you on a stock rom or a custom one?
also if you leave your xperia plugged in once it reaches 100% i believe it simply stops charging, so the moment you unplug it you "real" battery percentage!
No I am using a custom ROM.I always unpluged the phone when it says full next to the battery metter.
thats why I don't like charging via USB - it's unreliable and slow, always was
if someone knows how to solve that with a recalibration pls tell
I think its a problem of usb charging. I get this problem when I charge my phone with usb. I havent had this problem on charger. Maybe you usb is a bit lower voltage, so the battery isnt fully charged, but its not charging anymore so the percentage is set to 100% and rapidly decreases after short usage.
I think if you use a charger and do charge your batter a few times full with charger, the memory effect should go away.
Just correcting lpgsk, it's not the voltage, but the electric current of the USB. If I'm not wrong the charger has a 500mA current.
charger output 700mA @ 5v
My suggestion is, if you have to charge it on USB, you should charge it when its off. The charging current should he higher since part of the energy wont be used to keep mobile standby. Therefor it should be able to get more power to battery.
2nd option, buy USB mini Y-cable. It is 1 miniUSB -> 2 USB cable. So you put the other end to 2 USB slots for more power.
like this:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USB-A-Male-to-Mini-5-Pin-Y-Cable-for-external-hard-Disk_W0QQitemZ330414581897QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_USB_Cables?hash=item4cee3e6889
this could help, but no waranty it would
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Thank you for your answer.I checked the forum but not much came up about recalibration.I checked the phones settings and I can't find anything about batery calibration
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It must have been my memory who failed me this time. I can't find any way to calibrate battery either. Sorry for that!
Saw that you're running on a custom rom so I guess the phone is not brand new. Question raised is, how old is the battery?
Searched Ebay for whatever to my x2 and found the batteries (same in X1/X2) damn cheap (fakes or not). Why not buy a new battery and test?
Avarell_Dalton said:
It must have been my memory who failed me this time. I can't find any way to calibrate battery either. Sorry for that!
Saw that you're running on a custom rom so I guess the phone is not brand new. Question raised is, how old is the battery?
Searched Ebay for whatever to my x2 and found the batteries (same in X1/X2) damn cheap (fakes or not). Why not buy a new battery and test?
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Hey there.The phone was brand new when I got it.It came with the standard WM 6.5 I just installed a new ROM.I tried charging via the wall charger and it seems that the battery lasts WAY longer then charging throw the USB cable.
Thanks a lot guys
PS:One thing (has nothing to do with the battery but I don't want a new thread for that).All my received text messages are with a different time then my phone.I would say around 3-5 hours difference.I searched online and I found more people with this problem but I cannot find a fix for it.Any suggestions?
Thanks again to all of you that answered
Anyone??!!
So like the title said i have replaced the battery in my P9, with an original battery. It has the same part number and all that. I have noticed that the phone won't charge the replacement battery, i have returned the new battery in warranty and revived another one. Same thing, the phone starts up as soon as you plug in any kind of power source to it , like a charger, but no charging notification. The notification light pulses in rare intervals (some thing of 10 secs or more) but it's not steadily on like when normally charging. And the most vexing thing is : if i replace the original battery it charges. Unfortunately the the original battery now has the bad habit of cutting out on me at random from anywhere 47% or bellow .... The phone is nearly 3 year old now.
Have you given the new batteries some time to charge? Maybe they were delivered to you fully discharged.
First one was on 85% the second on 60% or so. I kept the 1st one on charger for a whole weekend... Still nothing
Have you tried to callibrate the original battery (you say it suddenly drops if below 40%)?
Yes, I have allowed the battery to run down to 3% and the phone turning itself off. Then fully charged it while being off. So the original battery is just plain old, nearly 3y old. The problem is that the phone refuses to charge the new batteries regardless of original charge. Also it turns automatically on when you plug in a charger, not just showing the charge animation. That is not normal behavior.
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Recalibrate how?
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Did you try to search?!
There is a thread on battery calibration (XDA, Huawei P9, Q and A
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75592069&postcount=18
zgfg said:
Did you try to search?!
There is a thread on battery calibration (XDA, Huawei P9, Q and A
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75592069&postcount=18
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I've done that after reading you'r message , but i have already done the steps not req root. And i'm not willing to root my phone.
P9 also not charging
Did you manage to find a resolution to this issues? I'm having the same problem with my P9. I changed my battery, and it now won't charge. It turns on ok, and everything seems to be working. When I plug in the charging cable, it makes the sound it usually does, the battery symbol flashes green but instantly turns white again. When the phone is off, plugging the cable in switches it on, but no charge. I've had two replacement batteries, both have the same issue. Also, the original battery is now doing the same. I'm wondering if I damaged something while removing the battery.
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Did you manage to find a resolution to this issues? I'm having the same problem with my P9. I changed my battery, and it now won't charge. It turns on ok, and everything seems to be working. When I plug in the charging cable, it makes the sound it usually does, the battery symbol flashes green but instantly turns white again. When the phone is off, plugging the cable in switches it on, but no charge. I've had two replacement batteries, both have the same issue. Also, the original battery is now doing the same. I'm wondering if I damaged something while removing the battery.
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I think it's problem in charging IC or port.
Hi all
Had same issue with replacement battery
After replacement battery isn't charging. Problem is in bad connections
(probably from long shelf storage connectors got rusty)
Voltage was fine but temperature reading was way off (very low -2) and phone didn't charge battery
Problem is that there was no error message about battery temp.
After cleaning the contactors battery reading became normal and it started charging
Anybody ever had any solution to this problem? I have the same issue. Battery replaced - not taking any charge. If micro USB charger plugged in - the phone turns on. If it is already turned on plugging in the charger the screen flashes the % of the charge and nothing.