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I'm close to pulling the trigger on buying a new note but I'm concerned it is too big to work out with.
I'm no Ironman, but I run a few miles 3 days a week and I really like streaming Pandora through my bluetooth headphones while recording my performance with Sports Tracker Pro + Zephyr Heart Rate Monitor.
I've seen a few threads discussing arm pouches and the aquapac. Does anybody here actually strap the note to their body for road running? Does it work ok?
So far the note looks like a great device for me, I don't care about games and I don't care what other people think. Screen real estate and usability are king for me but I would hate to give up my Android workouts.
I'm going to a running gear shop later this week to see what kind of pouches they have.
http://www.sportstracklive.com/user/DavidSmoot for an example of what I am talking about.
David
Personally it is too big for me . . I have a feeling the velcro would drop as you run as the phone is almost 200grams. i have the note and im thinking of buying or trading for a smaller phone / mp3 player for exercising
When the time comes (it's too cold outside) and i start jogging again, i won't take this beast with me I'll probably buy a Wildfire S or something small and use that when i'm out sweating and falling down mountains.
But i guess it could work with the Note, but it's really really big for that task. You'll end up with a huge arm! But just try it and see how it goes.
I run with it
I do, and have run with the Note. It not that too bad compared to my Atrix 4G. The first time I ran with it, I actually just held it in my hand the whole time, which is what I always did with my Atrix. It wasn't that uncomfortable and I don't have giant hands.
I tried looking for armbands that could hold the Note but was unable to find anything worth while. So this last time I ran I ended up jerry rigging an old CD player workout fanny pack into a makeshift armband for the Note.
It sounds terrible but the end result doesn't look bad at all and its pretty comfortable all things considered. I ran with it like that last night for a short 25 minute run and it was fine didn't slip much and because the pouch was orginally for a CD player the velcro flap was more than strong enough to hold the phone securely.
The Note is awesome for running thanks to its super fast and accurate GPS and giant battery.
I'll try to post some pictures of my setup when I get home.
I do almost every day. When I run at a slower pace I keep it halfway inserted in a tights pocket at waist line. This way it doesn't get cold.
For faster runs (intervals) I keep it in a pocket inside a running belt (also inside my jacket so it doesn't get cold).
The only problem is that GPS accuracy (even under free sky) is not that good when not using it for car navigation (where track is corrected to keep you on streets). I may run in a straight line but points are scattered left and right so real time speed accuracy is quite bad because now it says I'm running at 12mph 5 secs later it says I run at 5mph. While my speed is constant at about 6.5mph.
Size is not an issue but accuracy is so I will probably get a Garmin watch for running. I'm quite disappointed with that
I run for the train every day. I always have my note on me.
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I use a waist belt pouch which holds the G Note quite well.
Besides the clip onto the belt there is another flap which will clip pouch on better.
Only problem is one has to wear a belt during the run, which some do not wear.
(Picture of pouch is enclosed below):
I run and use runkeeper, gps is so fast but honestly it's big
I bought this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150729459042&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:GB:1123
I "wear" mine in a Arm Pouch whilst running and throughout my workout in the Gym with no problems.
I do have to reposition it during some arm exercises.
I use Endomondo when I go running. Before I got my armband, I put it in a small pouch and then in my pocket just in case any sweat got in it. Now on my arm I don't need a pouch. But yeah, I guess it would be too big if you were wearing spandex with pockets! Other than that, it's great.
Hmm... I plan on biking with it very aggressively (always late commuter) daily.
I'll let you know when it gets here
This is a review for Jaybird BlueBuds X Bluetooth wireless headphones: http://www.jaybirdgear.com/bluebuds-x-bluetooth-headphones/
I'm going to be honest with you, I was skeptical when I approached the review these buds. People say not to judge the book by it's cover - the cover for this "book" was a premium price tag and heavy connection with athletic world. I wasn't really sure how it's going to fit with everyday use (not just sports), how will it integrate with Android phone such as Note 2 (considering Apple store is one of their top authorized resellers), and in general how comfortable it's going to fit. Sound quality wasn't even at the top of my expectation list, just hoping it wasn't influenced by yet another music celebrity who thinks we only care about exaggerated bass. With all that said, I got a review sample directly from Jaybird and have been testing it for the last couple of days.
First, let's start with a packaging it came in. In additional to original retail package, I also received a small traveling case which is definitely of a premium quality that kind of sets the tone of what to expect. That was a top notch premium box with a magnetic flap that opens up to reveal the goodies available inside. I know you want to read more about headphones itself, but I have to mention this is a very high quality packaging on par, if not even better, with some of the best top price headphones. Everything from a little rectangular box with manual book and a separate 20% liquipel coupon (to use for any of your other gadget since BlueBuds X already comes protected by Liquipel nano sweat/water repellent), to another hard clam case that looks like something for your wife's jewelries, and even usb to micro-usb cable with a custom flat noodle cable, something I have never seen before. It was very impressive!!!
But package aside, if headphones doesn't deliver - nothing else matters. In this case headphones itself are just a pair of beefy size earbuds that come with 3 sets of tips and another three sets of cushion wings to mix'n'match for a comfortable fit, and also a pair of wire clips. Earbuds are interconnected with a narrow flat rubber ribbon hosting the wires and in-line remote with 3 buttons. It looks very minimalistic, yet packs a huge powerhouse of technology. I didn't even bother reading instructions thinking I'm going to figure out how it works by myself, until I stumble across where the heck am I going to stick micro-usb cable? Device was probably pre-charged already, but still? After fumbling around for a few minutes, I had to open manual book to read about it. Actually the back of one of the earbuds pops open to reveal hidden micro-usb connector. I quickly installed the medium size ear tip and proceeded to pair these up with my Note 2. It was effortless and look really seconds to recognize and pair up with a phone, no need to enter any codes, etc. Right away I tried making phone call, check the dialing by voice, adjust the volume up/down, redial last number, etc. - all the typical voice functions. Everything worked as expected. Then, I decided to test multimedia controls. Playing songs, controlling play/pause, skip to next/prev track, watching videos, playing video games, controlling volume (not the actual volume of the phone, but a typical min/max range of bt stereo headphones) - everything works perfect. No pauses, no breaks or stuttering, no delays, and everything was in perfect sync. I also tested the range of bt connection by leaving the phone on the kitchen table while walking around first floor, going upstairs to a second floor and down to a basement where I observed coverage on par with other bt stereo headphones I've tested.
One thing was bothering me, the sound wasn't as good as I would expect. I selected medium size tips by default, but apparently that was a cause of my problem because it didn't create a proper ear canal seal. As soon as I switched to large tips - WOW!!! I couldn't believe my ears!!! Yeah, it was that good with every detail of the sound coming right at you in almost surround like stereo sound, everything from crisply highs to super clean mids and down to deep lows. With a properly selected tip to seal your ear canal - you are in for a big treat where drivers of these headphones deliver a full rich frequency spectrum of the sound. I know Jaybird mentions a special Shift Premium Bluetooth Audio technology. But no matter what digital protocol you use to enhance the sound, if your drivers can't deliver it - nothing will help. I also decided to figure out which wing cushion to select, and that turned out to be less painful than I thought, where those are actually soft hex perforated wings that hug into the surface of your ear and give you an extra support to keep earbuds from falling out when you run/jump. I mean, those should stay in by themselves, but considering intention of these earbuds to be used with extreme sports - cushion wings are a bonus. Earbuds itself could be worn in two different ways, normal under ear and also over ear. Under ear you can just let chord hang on the back of your neck/shoulders. With over the ear you have an option to use 2 provided clips to snake the excess cord around to shorten it up (like in the last picture I have below).
As I mentioned before, these earbuds are treated with water/sweat repellent Liquipel technology, and I actually tested it out by spraying some water on the cord - water stayed in little droplets. So it definitely will work if you are sweating a lot during exercise or went running under a light rain. So, how about using it in a different environment, just at work or outside while running errands? I believe it's doable. Because of the relatively short cord and rubber material, you can leave these earbuds dangling around and down without a worry they will slip and fall of your neck. It's not going to be as secure like a necklace option, but it can definitely work. Also, if they are dangling down and you get a call, there will be a short pause while you are getting these inserted properly into your ears. It's not as easy as just putting basic earbuds in. So that something you need to work with to figure out the best optimal use. Also, due to a proper ear seal, you get a good basic outside sound isolation, so I wouldn't recommend walking around with these in all the time. My concern is not ear fatigue, but rather not being able to hear what's going on around you. BlueBuds X are definitely designed with sport use in mind, but there is definitely a lot of room for these in everyday life as well. Just for the sound quality itself and how comfortable they fit in - at the current moment with all the headphones (wired and wireless I have) I can't imagine listening to music, or watching the movie, or playing the games with anything else. And on top of that you also get 8 hours of battery life which is incredible considering you only deal with two earbuds connected by a cord.
What can I say, I was VERY impressed with an experience of using these BlueBuds X headphones. Can I say they are a must-have accessory for Note 2? Absolutely not. These are premium bluetooth stereo headphones with a relatively premium price in comparison to other headphones in the same category. It's just like I said in my other reviews where tempered glass is a premium options where you have other much cheaper choices. You can get wired headphones for a tiny fraction of these buds. You can get stereo bt headphones for a fraction of the price as well. But out of everything I have tested so far (and my testing headphones journey is not done yet) these stand head and shoulders above competition in sound quality, integrated phone and audio controls, complete compatibility with our Note 2, and also the best solution for an active lifestyle!
Now, here comes some pictures for your enjoyment!
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I use these headphones almost everyday.
One thing I'll tell you guys is that you MUST MUST MUST get some comply ear tips. They make a huge difference in terms of isolation and comfort.
http://www.complyfoam.com/products/Tsx-500/
or
http://www.complyfoam.com/products/Tx-500/
I used to have my ears hurting after like 2 hrs+ of wearing them. Now I can wear them almost all day while at work.
soulesschild said:
I use these headphones almost everyday.
One thing I'll tell you guys is that you MUST MUST MUST get some comply ear tips. They make a huge difference in terms of isolation and comfort.
http://www.complyfoam.com/products/Tsx-500/
or
http://www.complyfoam.com/products/Tx-500/
I used to have my ears hurting after like 2 hrs+ of wearing them. Now I can wear them almost all day while at work.
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Oh, I had these for other headphones long time ago. Those were like soft earplugs. Actually still have it, but for a small inner core diameter. I just tried them, too small to fit on blue buds. I assume your link about for tsx/tx are for a bigger diameter? I'm not talking about outside shape, but inner diameter of flexible core. Which one did you find to fit?
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Oh, I had these for other headphones long time ago. Those were like soft earplugs. Actually still have it, but for a small inner core diameter. I just tried them, too small to fit on blue buds. I assume your link about for tsx/tx are for a bigger diameter? I'm not talking about outside shape, but inner diameter of flexible core. Which one did you find to fit?
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So the TSX and TX 500 lines are ones that Comply says specifically fit the JayBird BlueBud's X. One provides superior isolation, the other provides superior comfort. I found that in terms of isolation their about the same with the TX ones having slightly more isolation if you aren't playing anything but when you have music playing (you'll definitely have to get used to having things at a relatively low volume due to the isolation.) it doesn't matter all that much. They both feel relatively the same to me but everyone's different.
I personally first ordered a trial pack that had all 3 sizes and I found that the mediums fit the best with my ears. Honestly there's no easy way to figure out what size you are without really trying all 3. The other sizes I just gave away.
The 500 series is indeed the one that the inner diameter fits the Bluebuds X, its a bit tight first I thought it won't fit, but after couple tries, it's actually went in and fits theBluebuds X.
I don't know how it will be in a long run, but for right now I'm OK with original ear tips supplied with these. Watched a few movies/tv shows for over an hour and it was very comfortable and no ear fatigue. You also get a decent noise isolation, which is obviously not an active noise cancellation but rather a isolation by nature of these fitting into your ear. Also, while making a phone call people suggested they can hear me very loud and clear, although while making calls I hear people back in a little "tunnel" sound. Not echo or delay or distortion, just sounded a little distant. Probably depends on how I have them sitting in my ears, in under-ear position. If I'm not mistaken, JayBird has a note they don't even recommend phone calls with over the ear position. I wonder if that's due to mic placement?
confirmation on audio delay for games
vectron said:
This is a review for Jaybird BlueBuds X Bluetooth wireless headphones: http://www.jaybirdgear.com/bluebuds-x-bluetooth-headphones/
I'm going to be honest with you, I was skeptical when I approached the review these buds. People say not to judge the book by it's cover - the cover for this "book" was a premium price tag and heavy connection with athletic world. I wasn't really sure how it's going to fit with everyday use (not just sports), how will it integrate with Android phone such as Note 2 (considering Apple store is one of their top authorized resellers), and in general how comfortable it's going to fit. Sound quality wasn't even at the top of my expectation list, just hoping it wasn't influenced by yet another music celebrity who thinks we only care about exaggerated bass. With all that said, I got a review sample directly from Jaybird and have been testing it for the last couple of days.
First, let's start with a packaging it came in. In additional to original retail package, I also received a small traveling case which is definitely of a premium quality that kind of sets the tone of what to expect. That was a top notch premium box with a magnetic flap that opens up to reveal the goodies available inside. I know you want to read more about headphones itself, but I have to mention this is a very high quality packaging on par, if not even better, with some of the best top price headphones. Everything from a little rectangular box with manual book and a separate 20% liquipel coupon (to use for any of your other gadget since BlueBuds X already comes protected by Liquipel nano sweat/water repellent), to another hard clam case that looks like something for your wife's jewelries, and even usb to micro-usb cable with a custom flat noodle cable, something I have never seen before. It was very impressive!!!
But package aside, if headphones doesn't deliver - nothing else matters. In this case headphones itself are just a pair of beefy size earbuds that come with 3 sets of tips and another three sets of cushion wings to mix'n'match for a comfortable fit, and also a pair of wire clips. Earbuds are interconnected with a narrow flat rubber ribbon hosting the wires and in-line remote with 3 buttons. It looks very minimalistic, yet packs a huge powerhouse of technology. I didn't even bother reading instructions thinking I'm going to figure out how it works by myself, until I stumble across where the heck am I going to stick micro-usb cable? Device was probably pre-charged already, but still? After fumbling around for a few minutes, I had to open manual book to read about it. Actually the back of one of the earbuds pops open to reveal hidden micro-usb connector. I quickly installed the medium size ear tip and proceeded to pair these up with my Note 2. It was effortless and look really seconds to recognize and pair up with a phone, no need to enter any codes, etc. Right away I tried making phone call, check the dialing by voice, adjust the volume up/down, redial last number, etc. - all the typical voice functions. Everything worked as expected. Then, I decided to test multimedia controls. Playing songs, controlling play/pause, skip to next/prev track, watching videos, playing video games, controlling volume (not the actual volume of the phone, but a typical min/max range of bt stereo headphones) - everything works perfect. No pauses, no breaks or stuttering, no delays, and everything was in perfect sync. I also tested the range of bt connection by leaving the phone on the kitchen table while walking around first floor, going upstairs to a second floor and down to a basement where I observed coverage on par with other bt stereo headphones I've tested.
One thing was bothering me, the sound wasn't as good as I would expect. I selected medium size tips by default, but apparently that was a cause of my problem because it didn't create a proper ear canal seal. As soon as I switched to large tips - WOW!!! I couldn't believe my ears!!! Yeah, it was that good with every detail of the sound coming right at you in almost surround like stereo sound, everything from crisply highs to super clean mids and down to deep lows. With a properly selected tip to seal your ear canal - you are in for a big treat where drivers of these headphones deliver a full rich frequency spectrum of the sound. I know Jaybird mentions a special Shift Premium Bluetooth Audio technology. But no matter what digital protocol you use to enhance the sound, if your drivers can't deliver it - nothing will help. I also decided to figure out which wing cushion to select, and that turned out to be less painful than I thought, where those are actually soft hex perforated wings that hug into the surface of your ear and give you an extra support to keep earbuds from falling out when you run/jump. I mean, those should stay in by themselves, but considering intention of these earbuds to be used with extreme sports - cushion wings are a bonus. Earbuds itself could be worn in two different ways, normal under ear and also over ear. Under ear you can just let chord hang on the back of your neck/shoulders. With over the ear you have an option to use 2 provided clips to snake the excess cord around to shorten it up (like in the last picture I have below).
As I mentioned before, these earbuds are treated with water/sweat repellent Liquipel technology, and I actually tested it out by spraying some water on the cord - water stayed in little droplets. So it definitely will work if you are sweating a lot during exercise or went running under a light rain. So, how about using it in a different environment, just at work or outside while running errands? I believe it's doable. Because of the relatively short cord and rubber material, you can leave these earbuds dangling around and down without a worry they will slip and fall of your neck. It's not going to be as secure like a necklace option, but it can definitely work. Also, if they are dangling down and you get a call, there will be a short pause while you are getting these inserted properly into your ears. It's not as easy as just putting basic earbuds in. So that something you need to work with to figure out the best optimal use. Also, due to a proper ear seal, you get a good basic outside sound isolation, so I wouldn't recommend walking around with these in all the time. My concern is not ear fatigue, but rather not being able to hear what's going on around you. BlueBuds X are definitely designed with sport use in mind, but there is definitely a lot of room for these in everyday life as well. Just for the sound quality itself and how comfortable they fit in - at the current moment with all the headphones (wired and wireless I have) I can't imagine listening to music, or watching the movie, or playing the games with anything else. And on top of that you also get 8 hours of battery life which is incredible considering you only deal with two earbuds connected by a cord.
What can I say, I was VERY impressed with an experience of using these BlueBuds X headphones. Can I say they are a must-have accessory for Note 2? Absolutely not. These are premium bluetooth stereo headphones with a relatively premium price in comparison to other headphones in the same category. It's just like I said in my other reviews where tempered glass is a premium options where you have other much cheaper choices. You can get wired headphones for a tiny fraction of these buds. You can get stereo bt headphones for a fraction of the price as well. But out of everything I have tested so far (and my testing headphones journey is not done yet) these stand head and shoulders above competition in sound quality, integrated phone and audio controls, complete compatibility with our Note 2, and also the best solution for an active lifestyle!
Now, here comes some pictures for your enjoyment!
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thanks for the great review, i've been thinking of buying these for a very long time, but one thing stopped me which is a problem for all Bluetooth headphones with Android.
this thing is there is an audio delay when playing games (little less than 1 second), but this delay is enough to make playing games very annoying as for example when you press the shoot button in a game, you will hear the shot after 1 second.
Can you confirm whether this issue is solved with the Bluebuds X ? if yes i am gonna buy it today itself
please go ahead and try a game like "Dead Trigger" and come back to me on whether there is an audio delay or not with games
Thanks a lot.............
RADLOUNI said:
thanks for the great review, i've been thinking of buying these for a very long time, but one thing stopped me which is a problem for all Bluetooth headphones with Android.
this thing is there is an audio delay when playing games (little less than 1 second), but this delay is enough to make playing games very annoying as for example when you press the shoot button in a game, you will hear the shot after 1 second.
Can you confirm whether this issue is solved with the Bluebuds X ? if yes i am gonna buy it today itself
please go ahead and try a game like "Dead Trigger" and come back to me on whether there is an audio delay or not with games
Thanks a lot.............
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Ok, will try this game and report it to you later tonight.
very good review, if this phone had FM radio would be perfect.
Good review. I'd like to see a comparison between these and the Sony ones that came before it. To see how they are better in terms of range, sound quality and general usability.
ady said:
Good review. I'd like to see a comparison between these and the Sony ones that came before it. To see how they are better in terms of range, sound quality and general usability.
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Which Sony ones do you have in mind? Let me know the model number, maybe I can score a sample for review/comparison
vectron said:
Ok, will try this game and report it to you later tonight.
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No delay playing Dead Trigger. Although now I will have nightmares after playing this game lol!
vectron said:
Which Sony ones do you have in mind? Let me know the model number, maybe I can score a sample for review/comparison
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HBH-IS800
I like that the review, which has a further person in my country selling a used one with a nice price, but I miss FM, with that I think I'll pick up the sony MW1.
vectron said:
No delay playing Dead Trigger. Although now I will have nightmares after playing this game lol!
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Sorry to be pushy but I am now going to buy this bluetooth headset based on your reply.
So you confirm that when you press the fire button in dead trigger, you immediately hear the fire sound? There is no delay (less than1 second) none whatsoever?
Thanks again and sorry for being pushy.
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RADLOUNI said:
Sorry to be pushy but I am now going to buy this bluetooth headset based on your reply.
So you confirm that when you press the fire button in dead trigger, you immediately hear the fire sound? There is no delay (less than1 second) none whatsoever?
Thanks again and sorry for being pushy.
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I'm not here to sell headphones and don't care if you buy it or not. I'm just sharing my experience so you guys can make an educated decision or narrow down the choices. I don't play games with my phone, it's used for work/business, and I actually had to install the game in order to test it out for you. I do understand your concerns and persistence to get an answer to your question, but after installing and playing this game for about 5-10min, I did not see any delay when I tap to fire the gun and hear the fire sound. I don't know what else I can say man. Could it be variation from one phone to the other? Possible. Someone reported about using Tone+ headphones and getting delays in video or buffering/stuttering, while I didn't experience that problem. BlueBudsX is expensive purchase, I understand. So if you decide to invest you money into this product, if something doesn't work you can always return it back. Like I said, you can have a different experience with the same phone and headphones from what I see, due to other apps you have, ROM, general config of the phone, etc. Good luck!
thanks
vectron said:
I'm not here to sell headphones and don't care if you buy it or not. I'm just sharing my experience so you guys can make an educated decision or narrow down the choices. I don't play games with my phone, it's used for work/business, and I actually had to install the game in order to test it out for you. I do understand your concerns and persistence to get an answer to your question, but after installing and playing this game for about 5-10min, I did not see any delay when I tap to fire the gun and hear the fire sound. I don't know what else I can say man. Could it be variation from one phone to the other? Possible. Someone reported about using Tone+ headphones and getting delays in video or buffering/stuttering, while I didn't experience that problem. BlueBudsX is expensive purchase, I understand. So if you decide to invest you money into this product, if something doesn't work you can always return it back. Like I said, you can have a different experience with the same phone and headphones from what I see, due to other apps you have, ROM, general config of the phone, etc. Good luck!
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Thanks for your efforts, appreciated. Now i have the information i want.
RADLOUNI said:
Thanks for your efforts, appreciated. Now i have the information i want.
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If you decide to get it, please come back and share your experience. It will benefit others who might have similar concern and would like to know if it works consistently! You probably have a lot more games to test it with, so it will be good to hear it!
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HBH-IS800
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The one you mentioned looks like an old product from 2009, discontinued already. So perhaps someone else can chime if they had these before? From Amazon reviews it looks like a good product, ahead of it's time back in 2009 but in comparison to BlueBuds X I don't think it stacks up. I would assume sound quality could be on par, although I'm very impressed with buds X. Then, Sony ones had a proprietary bulky charger, short battery life, and some durability problems. Only time with tell with buds x, but so far first week impression is very good. I'm also trying to get review samples of a.m.p ISO for a comparison since it was mentioned in another thread as a worthy alternative.
vectron said:
The one you mentioned looks like an old product from 2009, discontinued already. So perhaps someone else can chime if they had these before? From Amazon reviews it looks like a good product, ahead of it's time back in 2009 but in comparison to BlueBuds X I don't think it stacks up. I would assume sound quality could be on par, although I'm very impressed with buds X. Then, Sony ones had a proprietary bulky charger, short battery life, and some durability problems. Only time with tell with buds x, but so far first week impression is very good. I'm also trying to get review samples of a.m.p ISO for a comparison since it was mentioned in another thread as a worthy alternative.
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fair enough. These are actually an old product, although I still have mine functional even after once dropping them in knee high water. I have only two gripes with them:
1. Short battery life ~2hours
2. Short range and prone to interference: For example they would occasionally jitter in a gym on a busy day. Also occasional skipping if the phone goes more than 2 meters away or if you're passing near high tension lines.
I switched to MW600, which seem to last forever ~5hours+ and while they aren't as minimalist, you do get an OLED display.
Overall it sounds like the bluebuds are worth giving a try.
Thanks
Hi, it's about time for me to do an upgrade, my TF Prime is dying, just random lags and can't handle most new apps well anymore. Was looking at Google Nexus 10 and others including Win8 tablets, but deciding to perhaps give TF series another try. A few questions for people that updated from TF201 (or early devices) to TF701:
1. The speaker, is it louder on TF701, the same, or softer?
2. The headphone jack: is it improved in terms of how tight it holds the connector? The TF201 headphone jack is so loose it always falls out
3. Is it thicker or thinner than the TF201? And weight?
4. Does the device slow after a considerable amount of use? I was really happy with my TF201 initially but it's been slowing like crazy these days
5. Docking issues: seems to be the most talked about one here, is it still a big problem, or does new shipments fix it?
Much thanks in advance.
david90531 said:
Hi, it's about time for me to do an upgrade, my TF Prime is dying, just random lags and can't handle most new apps well anymore. Was looking at Google Nexus 10 and others including Win8 tablets, but deciding to perhaps give TF series another try. A few questions for people that updated from TF201 (or early devices) to TF701:
1. The speaker, is it louder on TF701, the same, or softer?
2. The headphone jack: is it improved in terms of how tight it holds the connector? The TF201 headphone jack is so loose it always falls out
3. Is it thicker or thinner than the TF201? And weight?
4. Does the device slow after a considerable amount of use? I was really happy with my TF201 initially but it's been slowing like crazy these days
5. Docking issues: seems to be the most talked about one here, is it still a big problem, or does new shipments fix it?
Much thanks in advance.
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1. Probably little louder
2. It is ok
3. Thinner I think (compare the specs on Asus website)
4. No
5. New shipments with production month 2013.11 or later must be ok. We are wating for confirmation about this from users.
Snah001 said:
1. Probably little louder
2. It is ok
3. Thinner I think (compare the specs on Asus website)
4. No
5. New shipments with production month 2013.11 or later must be ok. We are wating for confirmation about this from users.
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Thanks for the reply, more inputs from others would be much appreciated
So did Asus claim that the newer productions fixed the issue, or we are just being optimistic about it?
david90531 said:
Hi, it's about time for me to do an upgrade, my TF Prime is dying, just random lags and can't handle most new apps well anymore. Was looking at Google Nexus 10 and others including Win8 tablets, but deciding to perhaps give TF series another try. A few questions for people that updated from TF201 (or early devices) to TF701:
1. The speaker, is it louder on TF701, the same, or softer?
2. The headphone jack: is it improved in terms of how tight it holds the connector? The TF201 headphone jack is so loose it always falls out
3. Is it thicker or thinner than the TF201? And weight?
4. Does the device slow after a considerable amount of use? I was really happy with my TF201 initially but it's been slowing like crazy these days
5. Docking issues: seems to be the most talked about one here, is it still a big problem, or does new shipments fix it?
Much thanks in advance.
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1. The speaker, is it louder on TF701, the same, or softer? Sounds better to me - richer
2. The headphone jack: is it improved in terms of how tight it holds the connector? The TF201 headphone jack is so loose it always falls outNo probs with mine
3. Is it thicker or thinner than the TF201? And weight? I would say that docked it is thicker than the prime.
4. Does the device slow after a considerable amount of use? I was really happy with my TF201 initially but it's been slowing like crazy these days No where near as bad as other devices but I think it is the 2GB of ram that fixes that issue
5. Docking issues: seems to be the most talked about one here, is it still a big problem, or does new shipments fix it? Mine from 2013/10 had a loose dock. Connection was fine but I have RMA'd it to get a better dock
One change that you did not mention is the microSD card slot. It's much improved in the 700 and 701. Previously on the 100 and 201 models, an inserted microSD card would protrude by a few millimeters, making it susceptible to to being bumped and accidentally ejected (and lost!). On the more recent devices with the new and improved iteration of the slot, microSD cards are now completely flush with the shell. Accidental ejection is now all but impossible.
sbdags said:
1. The speaker, is it louder on TF701, the same, or softer? Sounds better to me - richer
2. The headphone jack: is it improved in terms of how tight it holds the connector? The TF201 headphone jack is so loose it always falls outNo probs with mine
3. Is it thicker or thinner than the TF201? And weight? I would say that docked it is thicker than the prime.
4. Does the device slow after a considerable amount of use? I was really happy with my TF201 initially but it's been slowing like crazy these days No where near as bad as other devices but I think it is the 2GB of ram that fixes that issue
5. Docking issues: seems to be the most talked about one here, is it still a big problem, or does new shipments fix it? Mine from 2013/10 had a loose dock. Connection was fine but I have RMA'd it to get a better dock
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Thanks! Yes when I saw the 2GB RAM I was much relieved, they should've done that for the Prime... good to hear.
Too bad they had to sacrifice the weight and thinness for the power though.
But I think I'm still positive about this machine, just need to hear even more about the dock. I guess in the worst case I can always just RMA it. Is there a possibility that they won't let me exchange for a better dock?
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One change that you did not mention is the microSD card slot. It's much improved in the 700 and 701. Previously on the 100 and 201 models, an inserted microSD card would protrude by a few millimeters, making it susceptible to to being bumped and accidentally ejected (and lost!). On the more recent devices with the new and improved iteration of the slot, microSD cards are now completely flush with the shell. Accidental ejection is now all but impossible.
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Oh that's right, I have read something about the improved slot for microSD. That is good to hear, thanks for the note :good:
Just got new 701, Date 2013.11
I have only few hours, and after semi detailed inspection, everything seems to be OK. Dock doesn't disconnect, even before update was working fine. Headphone jack works as one would expect, no issue to report. No problems with front glass panel. Fingers crossed it stays that way.
turbinea said:
Just got new 701, Date 2013.11
I have only few hours, and after semi detailed inspection, everything seems to be OK. Dock doesn't disconnect, even before update was working fine. Headphone jack works as one would expect, no issue to report. No problems with front glass panel. Fingers crossed it stays that way.
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Does the tab sit firmly in the dock hinge with no lateral flex when you open and close from the full open position?
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Does the tab sit firmly in the dock hinge with no lateral flex when you open and close from the full open position?
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I don't know exactly what do you mean by lateral flex. Tablet is somewhat loose in the hinge, but that seems to be design, and it 'works' same way as i saw in some videos. I can lift tablet few degrees from closed position before hinge on the dock starts to rotate. If you mean if it twists in the hinge along axis, then only little bit, and it is because of loose nature of the hinge. If you mean something completely different then please make me some very basic diagram or something, I'll try.
However, i discovered some very strange phenomenon with this tablet. It maybe well known effect, but i see it for the first time and it is somewhat hard to describe.
Before, i had only TF101 and it has plastic back. This model has brushed aluminum back. When i trace my finger on the metal surface of tablet's back, i feel subtle... resonance, rumble (?) in my fingertip. Not sure how to describe it. It only occurs when tablet is in the dock and charging from charger, and i have to move fingertip over surface, simply touching surface is not working. I really hope this thing is not possessed.
turbinea said:
I don't know exactly what do you mean by lateral flex. Tablet is somewhat loose in the hinge, but that seems to be design, and it 'works' same way as i saw in some videos. I can lift tablet few degrees from closed position before hinge on the dock starts to rotate. If you mean if it twists in the hinge along axis, then only little bit, and it is because of loose nature of the hinge. If you mean something completely different then please make me some very basic diagram or something, I'll try.
However, i discovered some very strange phenomenon with this tablet. It maybe well known effect, but i see it for the first time and it is somewhat hard to describe.
Before, i had only TF101 and it has plastic back. This model has brushed aluminum back. When i trace my finger on the metal surface of tablet's back, i feel subtle... resonance, rumble (?) in my fingertip. Not sure how to describe it. It only occurs when tablet is in the dock and charging from charger, and i have to move fingertip over surface, simply touching surface is not working. I really hope this thing is not possessed.
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Unfortunately sounds like Asus haven't fixed the loose hinge on the 11 models then.
The resonance is because the device is not earthed. Happens on metal laptops as well as on my TF201 and TF700 as well. Not much you can do about it
sbdags said:
Unfortunately sounds like Asus haven't fixed the loose hinge on the 11 models then.
The resonance is because the device is not earthed. Happens on metal laptops as well as on my TF201 and TF700 as well. Not much you can do about it
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yes it is loose, but it wont loose contact with the dock, and it sounds worse than it really is. but i guess it's a matter of personal opinion.
anyway, thanks for 'resonance' explanation, going to cancel exorcist now
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I don't know exactly what do you mean by lateral flex. Tablet is somewhat loose in the hinge, but that seems to be design, and it 'works' same way as i saw in some videos. I can lift tablet few degrees from closed position before hinge on the dock starts to rotate. If you mean if it twists in the hinge along axis, then only little bit, and it is because of loose nature of the hinge. If you mean something completely different then please make me some very basic diagram or something, I'll try.
However, i discovered some very strange phenomenon with this tablet. It maybe well known effect, but i see it for the first time and it is somewhat hard to describe.
Before, i had only TF101 and it has plastic back. This model has brushed aluminum back. When i trace my finger on the metal surface of tablet's back, i feel subtle... resonance, rumble (?) in my fingertip. Not sure how to describe it. It only occurs when tablet is in the dock and charging from charger, and i have to move fingertip over surface, simply touching surface is not working. I really hope this thing is not possessed.
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Haha yes, that was the case for TF201 too and I guess with all the brushed aluminum spin finish products. The first time I felt it I thought my tablet was vibrating non-stop, so I got a bit worried. Its' a strange feeling
I was also wondering, with the updated specs (esp. improved WIFI and 2GB RAM), is the browsing experience much improved now? Is it comparable to other major tablets like Nexus 7, iPad Air and Surface 2? Because that's one of the major let down for me on the TF201, browsing experience is simply awful especially after a long time usage, the 1GB RAM and crappy Wifi just won't do, no matter what browser I use.
david90531 said:
I was also wondering, with the updated specs (esp. improved WIFI and 2GB RAM), is the browsing experience much improved now? Is it comparable to other major tablets like Nexus 7, iPad Air and Surface 2? Because that's one of the major let down for me on the TF201, browsing experience is simply awful especially after a long time usage, the 1GB RAM and crappy Wifi just won't do, no matter what browser I use.
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Yes it is however you can easily fix that on the TF201 with CROMi-X which uses browser to ROM. My prime runs faster than the browser here with browser to ram installed.
I do a lot of walking in Central London, barging through countless tourists and so on. I use wireless headphones so keeping my phone in a pocket affects the line of sight and breaks up the Blutooth signal, so I keep the phone in my hand (also i like to manage my music and check train times, etc). I currently use a Nexus 6P and it is so big, I have put a Spigen Style Ring on the back to allow me to use the phone without fear of it being knocked out of my hand, or even grabbed by some thieving crapbag (even though the joke would be on them, as I have the dreaded battery/shutdown issue).
Anyone else planning on using one, or similar device? Any better option out there? I will also have a skin and have bought a Ringke Slim in case the skin doesn't work out.
Shhmmooove said:
I do a lot of walking in Central London, barging through countless tourists and so on. I use wireless headphones so keeping my phone in a pocket affects the line of sight and breaks up the Blutooth signal, so I keep the phone in my hand (also i like to manage my music and check train times, etc). I currently use a Nexus 6P and it is so big, I have put a Spigen Style Ring on the back to allow me to use the phone without fear of it being knocked out of my hand, or even grabbed by some thieving crapbag (even though the joke would be on them, as I have the dreaded battery/shutdown issue).
Anyone else planning on using one, or similar device? Any better option out there? I will also have a skin and have bought a Ringke Slim in case the skin doesn't work out.
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I have used Bluetooth headphones on a couple of phones including my note 8. I always keep my phone in my pocket and have never had a problem with Bluetooth breaking up. When I was a machinist I would keep my phone in my toolbox and walk around the shop and it never broke up. Try different headphones.
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The headphones aren't the problem, bluetooth naturally suffers in the outdoors, where line of sight is reduced. My phone usually lives in my back pocket, hence the worsened connection problems. Anyway, this thread was for any suggestion re. the use of a Style Ring of any kind....
Shhmmooove said:
The headphones aren't the problem, bluetooth naturally suffers in the outdoors, where line of sight is reduced. My phone usually lives in my back pocket, hence the worsened connection problems. Anyway, this thread was for any suggestion re. the use of a Style Ring of any kind....
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Bluetooth doesn't rely on LOS. It does however rely on 2.4ghz spectrum which is overly crowded. And anything that interferes with that spectrum will interfere with bluetooth.
I have one on my S7 Edge.
I'm thinking about getting it on my Note 8, but there are both strong pros and cons to it.
Pros:
- Once it becomes used too much it's much easier to rotate, you can use the phone as a fidget spinner!
- When I was in Thailand, it probably saved my phone a few times as I was able to take photos on a really unsteady speedboat without fear of dropping my phone.
- The phone is much easier to hold when taking selfies. Just push your middle finger (XD) through the ring and use your thumb to take photos. Piece of cake.
Cons:
- I couldn't get wireless charging to work anymore as the ring was in the way, not a huge deal to me but it's somewhat of a deal as I do have a powerbank with wireless charging.
I am probably not getting the ring and get a nice dbrand skin instead.
But for those who care about holding their phone safely, the ring is a fantastic option. Just remember, it messes up wireless charging and is probably not removable. I never tried to remove the ring but it IS really strongly glued which is how it's supposed to be, you don't want your phone decoupling while you're fidget spinning it around
Shhmmooove said:
The headphones aren't the problem, bluetooth naturally suffers in the outdoors, where line of sight is reduced. My phone usually lives in my back pocket, hence the worsened connection problems. Anyway, this thread was for any suggestion re. the use of a Style Ring of any kind....
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I used to have a FlyGrip on my Note 4's Caseology bumper. They are made for iPhones, but will work for other phones. Ruins wireless charging but they are perfect for one-handed use of large phones.
I just bought this detachable lanyard and hope it works well, it should not effect the wireless charger since it is pretty thin and goes on at the bottom
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072WNXRW3/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also put this on my phones, and depending on the placement or how big the phone is depends on it stopping wireless charging, I have a previous phones one, on my note 8 at the bottom and it does not stop wireless charging when it is naked, not sure how it will work with a case on and or with the strap i bought on also.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZXSM9GX/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
We will see!
sageki said:
I just bought this detachable lanyard and hope it works well, it should not effect the wireless charger since it is pretty thin and goes on at the bottom
hxxps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072WNXRW3/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also put this on my phones, and depending on the placement or how big the phone is depends on it stopping wireless charging, I have a previous phones one, on my note 8 at the bottom and it does not stop wireless charging when it is naked, not sure how it will work with a case on and or with the strap i bought on also.
hxxps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZXSM9GX/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
We will see!
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Your links don't work, they both say 'hxxps://'
RaymondPJR said:
Your links don't work, they both say 'hxxps://'
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That has to be a joke, right?
If not:
replace hxxps with https
Nebell said:
That has to be a joke, right?
If not:
replace hxxps with https
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I did, and those links still didn't open. Copied it with my SPen and made the change. When they still didn't open, I posted. I'm not up on my XDA rules, but is there a prohibition against posting links to products?
EDIT: My apologies, this time it worked!?
Repaired the links so they work for me now...
Hi,
I have a problem with the buds pro, thet don't stay in my ear, they fall out even though I'm still and sitting .
does anyone else have the same problem? is there a solution?
Thanks
Have you tried switching to the larger size eartips that come with the buds? Another option is to find a 3rd party eartip that better fits your ears, for example -- https://www.amazon.com/SpinFit-CP100-M-Patented-Silicone-Replacement/dp/B01B793SLU
The trick is to give them a twist when you insert them into your ear, this helps them dig into the right position.
And as above you may need to experiment with the different size eartips.
How to wear your Samsung earbuds
If your Samsung earbuds don’t seem to fit correctly, simply change the earbud tips and wingtips for new ones. Your earbuds come with different sized earbud tips and wingtips so you can get the ideal fit for your ears. You should also make sure that you are wearing the earbuds properly.
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Actually this is why I prefer the Galaxy buds live, because they sit in your ear without going into the canal, and I think they sound fantastic. also, if you do any kind of sports, such as running, you don't get the 'boom boom' sound every time your foot hits the ground, which drives me crazy about in-canal earbuds
Maddmatt said:
The trick is to give them a twist when you insert them into your ear, this helps them dig into the right position.
And as above you may need to experiment with the different size eartips.
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Yeah you definitely need to screw them in
Not so with the Pro's except for sound Q.
I concerned about fit as well. For some they may not work well.
You can also go with foam tips which may work better. Sammy is allegedly considering releasing a foam tip version of the silicon.
I'm considering upgrading to the Pro's from the plus.
mattlcfc said:
How to wear your Samsung earbuds
If your Samsung earbuds don’t seem to fit correctly, simply change the earbud tips and wingtips for new ones. Your earbuds come with different sized earbud tips and wingtips so you can get the ideal fit for your ears. You should also make sure that you are wearing the earbuds properly.
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No wing tips with the Pro's...
Foam, foam, foam. I can't stick silicone tips. Itchy, weird pressure and that odd seal break when you chew or smile. I just can't get on with them.
I've been using foam on IEMs for 13 years now and the benefits are so great compared to silicone - great seal, comfy, better isolation.
I have some of these coming tomorrow as saw them recommended:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B085WLKLJC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_847PYM5WRPGW88GR6JNY
Hopefully these will do the trick until comply come up with the goods.
Got my buds pro today and they sound great, but that silicone.... No good, just no good
thank you all.
i have tried all 3 sizes but they are too big.
i can use them without eartips but so they are too small.
I need something between the smaller eartips and nothing.
I will try with the memory foam and
ventolino said:
thank you all.
i have tried all 3 sizes but they are too big.
i can use them without eartips but so they are too small.
I need something between the smaller eartips and nothing.
I will try with the memory foam and
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Try putting them in loosely at first, don't twist.
Allow a minute or two for them to warm up then twist them home.
A small amount of coconut oil in the ear canal helps them seat and prevent swimmer's ear.
ekerbuddyeker said:
Actually this is why I prefer the Galaxy buds live, because they sit in your ear without going into the canal, and I think they sound fantastic. also, if you do any kind of sports, such as running, you don't get the 'boom boom' sound every time your foot hits the ground, which drives me crazy about in-canal earbuds
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I'm actually in the process of returning the Buds Live I just got with the promo because they won't stay in my ears. I tried both sets of wingtips, got the silicon sleeves from Sammy - nothing worked. They stay in for a little bit but eventually fall out with movement, chewing, etc. Was planning on upgrading to the Pros instead, but now this thread has me contemplating that!
With the silicone they stay in fine for me using largest size tip, it's just the preference thing of silicone vs foam that is my personal issue.
So I have no problem with fit and stability, just the comfort and preference factor of foam
The issue with the pro's is that you can't easily fit 3rd party tips because of the oval shape and extremely short nozzle ... so unless samsung make some better wing'd tips (would love them) they are how they are i think
One of my buds wont stay in either. Keeps falling off no matter what The other day hit my guinea pig on the head
I found even the large tips were a bit loose.
I've ordered some SpinFit cp360 tips instead, but would prefer some foam tips.
I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on those replacement tips @heartyparty
Do they fit well without pulling off too easily and do they fit the charging case?
Just tried out the linsoul foam tips I ordered.
Nice blue colour, wide fitting hole so easy to push in to an oval and slide on to the buds pro nozzle.
Feels pretty secure.
And they seem quite good, definitely giving me a comfier fit and better isolation.
Fit in the case ok, slightly pushing the buds up a fraction but that will settle as they compress over time. Not affecting charging.
Only thing is that they are not a particularly 'tall' tips if that makes sense.
I would prefer something a little taller (longer?) to sit further in my ear canal. As it is the body of the buds are rubbing a bit on my ear and also the oval nozzle section is pretty wide so slightly uncomfortable at first until you get the fit just right. Longer foamies would allow that deeper fit and give a bit of space to keep the wide nozzle bit just a little further out your ear and also stop the buds catching the ear to.
Pretty much nit picking here though. As a 3rd party tip not designed for the buds, they do a decent enough job, thumbs up!
I found these ones earlier which say they're designed for the buds pro. But they only seem to be available on Amazon US
Amazon.com: diofit Premium Designed for Galaxy Buds Pro Eartips/Galaxy Buds Pro Eartips - Black (Foam): Electronics
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