Hello everybody!
I want to buy a Milestone 3 (actual DROID 3 outside U.S), but this smartphone have a DualCore. My doubt is: Gingerbread's Milestone 3 will use a full power of OMAP DualCore 1ghz? Or not, the Milestone 3 will use only one core? Because Gingerbread not support multicore (only 3.0+), right?
Thanks!
What? It has dualcore and it supports it. Whether it's used properly by android is another question....
DoubleYouPee said:
What? It has dualcore and it supports it. Whether it's used properly by android is another question....
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What? Droid 3 has android ???
DoubleYouPee said:
What? It has dualcore and it supports it. Whether it's used properly by android is another question....
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I know that android accepted dualcore a long time ago. But just like to know if I'll take advantage of dual core with Gingerbread, or if there some optimization of the system for the OMAP DualCore of DROID3.
Yes, it can use both cores
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AragornPE said:
Yes, it can use both cores
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But only source of Honeycomb and Ice Cream Sandwich have a Multicore support, right?
The Android Page said this: Honeycomb is a first platform Android optmized for Multicore proc.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html#multicore
I very confused about it. So, Gingerbread's Milestone 3/DROID3 work with multicore too? How?
PS.: AragornPE is a brazilian user, so i'll translate the my post above to portuguese, because i'm a brazilian user too:
Mas apenas o source do Honeycomb e o Ice Cream Sandwich tem o suporte ao Multicore, certo?
Na página do Android diz o seguinte: Honeycomb é a primeira plataforma Android otimizada para processadores Multicore.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html#multicore
Eu estou muito confuso sobre isso. Então, o Gingerbread do Milestone 3/DROID3 trabalha com o multicore também?
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I guess it's just better with ICS
TyoLoki said:
But only source of Honeycomb and Ice Cream Sandwich have a Multicore support, right?
The Android Page said this: Honeycomb is a first platform Android optmized for Multicore proc.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html#multicore
I very confused about it. So, Gingerbread's Milestone 3/DROID3 work with multicore too? How?
PS.: AragornPE is a brazilian user, so i'll translate the my post above to portuguese, because i'm a brazilian user too:
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it probably got support at kernel side after HC got it shoudnt be to dificult to port if you own the source code
I'm pretty sure GB supports multicore processors, just doesn't utilize them as well as ICS does.
TyoLoki said:
But only source of Honeycomb and Ice Cream Sandwich have a Multicore support, right?
The Android Page said this: Honeycomb is a first platform Android optmized for Multicore proc.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html#multicore
I very confused about it. So, Gingerbread's Milestone 3/DROID3 work with multicore too? How?
PS.: AragornPE is a brazilian user, so i'll translate the my post above to portuguese, because i'm a brazilian user too:
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I'm no dev, but I can "feel" the difference between Droid 2 and 3 (I have both). Droid 3 is snappier than Droid 2, and the main difference between both is the dual core processor. Droid 3 should be slower, since it has a bigger resolution, but it's not. So I assume it's using both cores
Thanks for the translation! But I understand english pretty well, so this is not needed =]
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Anyone knows when nvidia plans to release drivers so we can have hw acceleration working in ICS.
EDIT: There are binary drivers for Tegra2 and ICS in Acer A200 tablet.
http://www.acertabletforum.com/foru...4-0-3-ultrabase-rooted-busybox-installed.html
No one knows and as the scene looks like, they never will release it...
We have many hardworking devz out there, I'm sure before Nvidia releases the code or even think to, we would have got jellybean too
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nexus2515 said:
No one knows and as the scene looks like, they never will release it...
We have many hardworking devz out there, I'm sure before Nvidia releases the code or even think to, we would have got jellybean too
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and what good would jelly bee without drivers for our device?
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nexus2515 said:
No one knows and as the scene looks like, they never will release it...
We have many hardworking devz out there, I'm sure before Nvidia releases the code or even think to, we would have got jellybean too
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I'd understand that they're not releasing the drivers because they rule the scene, but open source guys are running circles around them.
Qualcomm just released drivers for the adreno 2xx series So there is some hope from manufacturers
grognaz said:
and what good would jelly bee without drivers for our device?
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I meant to say tht our hard wrking devs can find some way and get us jellybean android too
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Galaid said:
I'd understand that they're not releasing the drivers because they rule the scene, but open source guys are running circles around them.
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I think they are doing these coz they Don't want other manufacturers to copy thier drivers or something like that
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Scougar said:
Qualcomm just released drivers for the adreno 2xx series So there is some hope from manufacturers
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Qualcomm never hid anything from develpors( at least i never heard about it)
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nexus2515 said:
I meant to say tht our hard wrking devs can find some way and get us jellybean android too
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LOL, with all the work that ICS is giving just to release it for O2X i seriously doubt that we will ever get Jelly bean...
Sesto_Sento said:
LOL, with all the work that ICS is giving just to release it for O2X i seriously doubt that we will ever get Jelly bean...
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Have patiece bro
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Guys, ACER Iconia A200 has Tegra2 and ICS, why we cannot reuse those binary drivers for our Tegra2?
THE ROM IS here: http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-a200-roms/3974-rom-ics-4-0-3-ultrabase-rooted-busybox-installed.html
Atrix 4G also has Tegra2, ICS is comming soon..
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/02/15/update-motorola-ice-cream-sandwich-news/?pubid=987654
I believe Samsung Galaxy R (SGS2 with Tegra2) as well..
But A200 is here, I believe something can be cooked
First of all i'm not 100% sure about i'm about to say, but:
NVidia will probably never publish source codes of their drivers. They never did and they never will. Only phone manufacturer (LG in this case) can ask NVidia to make for them a specific kernel (or HAL?) with all required drivers. As far as i know LG is planning to do it becouse they want to give us official ICS "soon".
And about taking drivers from other devices...
It's quite complicated. In simple words hw video drivers are connected to specific kernel and somehow with other drivers (f.e sound, radio) which are diffrent then in f.e galaxy R. Samewhere on Ricardo Cerqueira's Google+ page was a discussion where someone explained how does it work and why it doesn't, but i can't find it atm.
Sorry about my english
RoXeon said:
First of all i'm not 100% sure about i'm about to say, but:
NVidia will probably never publish source codes of their drivers. They never did and they never will. Only phone manufacturer (LG in this case) can ask NVidia to make for them a specific kernel (or HAL?) with all required drivers. As far as i know LG is planning to do it becouse they want to give us official ICS "soon".
And about taking drivers from other devices...
It's quite complicated. In simple words hw video drivers are connected to specific kernel and somehow with other drivers (f.e sound, radio) which are diffrent then in f.e galaxy R. Samewhere on Ricardo Cerqueira's Google+ page was a discussion where someone explained how does it work and why it doesn't, but i can't find it atm.
Sorry about my english
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We don't need the source, just the binaries. Driver shouldn't depend on the kernel, afaik.
Galaid said:
We don't need the source, just the binaries.
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I never said we do
Galaid said:
Driver shouldn't depend on the kernel, afaik.
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HAL has to match kernel. Thats why we can't use GB divers and thats why we can't use drivers from other devices with same video hw.
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I never said we do
HAL has to match kernel. Thats why we can't use GB divers and thats why we can't use drivers from other devices with same video hw.
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What would be the purpose of Qualcomm releasing user-mode driver binaries for Adreno 2xx GPU on Google Android Ice Cream Sandwich if it wasn't possible to integrate them with AOSP for any Adreno 2xx GPU?
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What would be the purpose of Qualcomm releasing user-mode driver binaries for Adreno 2xx GPU on Google Android Ice Cream Sandwich if it wasn't possible to integrate them with AOSP for any Adreno 2xx GPU?
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Ok, i have no clue how it works, but still - HAL uses libs that are in kernel (HAL is dynamically linked with them). If other kernel version has diffrent structs, HAL simply won't work with that kernel. I thought that diffrent devices have a bit diffrent hw related libs (maybe some phones like O2X do?) in kernel which is messing up with HAL.
Taking into account Your post, at this point i have no idea why HAL is or is not related to specific device.
I found this link, may be someone can compile for ICS? ??
http://e2e.ti.com/support/omap/f/849/t/166461.aspx
http://e2e.ti.com/support/omap/f/849/t/166461.aspx
http://git.omapzoom.org/?p=kernel/omap.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/p-android-omap3-3.0
I hope cm9 for our device release soon
Nice
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I'm trying to make the kernel 3.0
Those sites and its contenet are well known here in xda ob development section. Btw until Ti will not release the improvments for the multimedia functionality there wont be a stable and daily use ics for our ob! we need to wait cm9 or lg itself in september to update officially to ics.
capocorp said:
Those sites and its contenet are well known here in xda ob development section. Btw until Ti will not release the improvments for the multimedia functionality there wont be a stable and daily use ics for our ob! we need to wait cm9 or lg itself in september to update officially to ics.
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true these sources are old but thanks for sharing any way.
Hi guys,
any news about kernel 3?
Did TI forget about OMAP3?
Thanks.
does this help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711061
making a kernel 3.0
its from the samsung galaxy s SL
same procesor
androidjel said:
does this help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711061
making a kernel 3.0
its from the samsung galaxy s SL
same procesor
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I have talked to him by PM.
Because it has the same AP I thought that it could help all devices that are OMAP3630 based, but apparently different devices need all the work that he made done again.
Hi All,
i am not a developer and found this link which is having kernel 3.X.X.X drivers, so i thought they may be ICS drivers for Tegra 2 Ventana board, so can some one who is have knowledge on the Kernel please validate these drivers...
By using these drivers can we have H/W acceleration with ICS/JB...
Link:http://www.nvidia.com/content/devzone/linux-for-tegra.html
Cool thread : D
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i dont know about that, but our board isnt a ventana board, it is a lg star board. ventana is a model of tegra 2
skylinegt77 said:
i dont know about that, but our board isnt a ventana board, it is a lg star board. ventana is a model of tegra 2
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*Facepalm*
Optimus 2X uses Tegra 2 AP20H chip, and that is Ventana.
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Hi, unfortunately are the drivers for linux
tatperson said:
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Optimus 2X uses Tegra 2 AP20H chip, and that is Ventana.
Sent from that Atrix.
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thank you for your facepalm just before you confirm what i just said... loooool
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Optimus 2X uses Tegra 2 AP20H chip, and that is Ventana.
Sent from that Atrix.
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Well, as far as I know, Android uses slightly modified Linux kernel. Starting from 3.X.X Linus T. started to include Android code into Linux. Anyway, conclusion is that provided code and binaries probably can be used to build fully-functional kernel for ICS, but it would be quite hard task and need a lot of effort. If LG will provide theirs plan to don't upgrade O2X, it looks reasonable to start such project, until that happened it can be waste of time.
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thank you for your facepalm just before you confirm what i just said... loooool
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You're welcome!
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frantic777 said:
Well, as far as I know, Android uses slightly modified Linux kernel. Starting from 3.X.X Linus T. started to include Android code into Linux. Anyway, conclusion is that provided code and binaries probably can be used to build fully-functional kernel for ICS, but it would be quite hard task and need a lot of effort. If LG will provide theirs plan to don't upgrade O2X, it looks reasonable to start such project, until that happened it can be waste of time.
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So do you think it will be very hard for kernel developers to include these drives in the 3.X.X kernel ...
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So do you think it will be very hard for kernel developers to include these drives in the 3.X.X kernel ...
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Obviously, it may need to develop kind of adapters between provided drivers and interfaces required by ICS. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of details regarding interaction between android (dalvik) and kernel, but according to my understanding it is possible.
http://madteam.co/forum/general-77/(dev's)(broadcom)-open-dialogue-with-broadcom/
possible source for the gpu in the near future?
Possible cm7 in future
Open source will be never released,maybe new drivers
Well since broadcom is looking into the rom of the Y or Ace (not sure which one, because the topic was about ace, but was posted in Y Section) It is probably going to have full CPU and GPU Drivers
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Well since broadcom is looking into the rom of the Y or Ace (not sure which one, because the topic was about ace, but was posted in Y Section) It is probably going to have full CPU and GPU Drivers
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Well let's hope so, so we can get CM7.2 on this baby? Also the broadcom guy just posted a new reply to that topic.
Any developers from here care to go over and offer what info they can to help speed this along or whatnot? He asks about the "Y" in his latest reply, if the sources are released will the devs be able to use them for CM7.2 for our S5380i?
Hi paradoxiumwind
you have to read a little more of Galaxy Ace "S5830" S5830 Young Galaxy and have the same CPU, same GPU, videocam IV .. totally the same drivers, the only thing that has more Galaxy Ace S5830 is a flash and other veicina screen 320 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches ... I use Ace S5830 And talking with Broadcom to release some of the drivers that are essential, Broadcom seeks solutions to dismiss some of the drier gpu, to Mogo to create CyanogenMod, AOKP, AOSP ... and I understand for a lot more applications ... A full drivers for the GPU will come out a little later...
My nick on this forum is: AmirChe
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Hi paradoxiumwind
you have to read a little more of Galaxy Ace "S5830" S5830 Young Galaxy and have the same CPU, same GPU, videocam IV .. totally the same drivers, the only thing that has more Galaxy Ace S5830 is a flash and other veicina screen 320 x 480 pixels, 3.5 inches ... I use Ace S5830 And talking with Broadcom to release some of the drivers that are essential, Broadcom seeks solutions to dismiss some of the drier gpu, to Mogo to create CyanogenMod, AOKP, AOSP ... and I understand for a lot more applications ... A full drivers for the GPU will come out a little later...
My nick on this forum is: AmirChe
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Thanks for the explaination, so since they're basically the same hardware when they release the source for the "Y", we (I mean the devs) can use it for our i to get CM7.2?
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Thanks for the explaination, so since they're basically the same hardware when they release the source for the "Y", we (I mean the devs) can use it for our i to get CM7.2?
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Yes.
Yes, I think they will only need to be replaced LCS Density from 120 to 160. or in the extreme case, to update and to add some more oddatak .. The whole system is done everything works great, but we can not be installing, means You can not get to the entrance, squardzone tested and missing his only got one driver ... look at the dialogue I think there you have everything else you need
will we able to see ICS or JB?
now a question... I know, is too soon, but, will we be able to see Ice Cream Sandwich or Jelly Bean in our loved devices? I'd like to help...
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now a question... I know, is too soon, but, will we be able to see Ice Cream Sandwich or Jelly Bean in our loved devices? I'd like to help...
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Sure, but they will run like ass? Our phones are not powerful. I will be happy with CM7.2
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Sure, but they will run like ass? Our phones are not powerful. I will be happy with CM7.2
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Cm9 & cm10 works perfectly on 5830. I hv used it. No lags. Then y do u say it wont work on this fone?
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Cm9 & cm10 works perfectly on 5830. I hv used it. No lags. Then y do u say it wont work on this fone?
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And on paper our Gpu is powerful..If it works well then cm7 should be the first step.
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Cm9 & cm10 works perfectly on 5830. I hv used it. No lags. Then y do u say it wont work on this fone?
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And on paper our Gpu is powerful..If it works well then cm7 should be the first step.
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CM9 & CM10 Work Perfectly on galaxy GIO too. And apart from a greater PPI value, galaxy gio is lesser in sepcs as compared to Ace-i. I also think (And Hope) CM9 & 10 should work like a charm on 5830i as well in the near future. :good:
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CM9 & CM10 Work Perfectly on galaxy GIO too. And apart from a greater PPI value, galaxy gio is lesser in sepcs as compared to Ace-i. I also think (And Hope) CM9 & 10 should work like a charm on 5830i as well in the near future. :good:
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Specs do not matter much to run CM9/10. But you need good specs to run it smoothly. Even HTC G1, the first android phone, has Jelly bean but it lags.
Availability of drivers for chipset matters the most.
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Specs do not matter much to run CM9/10. But you need good specs to run it smoothly. Even HTC G1, the first android phone, has Jelly bean but it lags.
Availability of drivers for chipset matters the most.
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You right mate, we should move like Galaxy Y users, but here is everybody ""waiting"" for a miracle, but if all of we don't do nothing the miracle will not happens...
For people thinking we are going to be running CM9/10 smoothly on our Ace, read this: https://plus.google.com/+CyanogenMod/posts/MRnnvs3oFUF
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For people thinking we are going to be running CM9/10 smoothly on our Ace, read this: https://plus.google.com/+CyanogenMod/posts/MRnnvs3oFUF
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This is old news.
It just means that they wont officially support snapdragon s1.
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For people thinking we are going to be running CM9/10 smoothly on our Ace, read this: https://plus.google.com/+CyanogenMod/posts/MRnnvs3oFUF
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It means cyanogen wont provide a official CM9 for our device. But developers here can make a port or tweak it to run in our device once all sources regarding the CPU/GPU/kernel are available. :beer:
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You right mate, we should move like Galaxy Y users, but here is everybody ""waiting"" for a miracle, but if all of we don't do nothing the miracle will not happens...
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But i think if Galaxy Y can have the sources, we can get too, because we have the same hardware and bla bla bla.
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But i think if Galaxy Y can have the sources, we can get too, because we have the same hardware and bla bla bla.
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He think he meant that we should also support them as much as we can....so that broadcom really feels that there is an urgent need for the sources.
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Hi guys, i have a big problem installing The chainfire Driver on my Ace whith CM 10.1-RCO-cooper!
the first time i install the phone stuck on boot animation!
then i reflash the rom! and all okay, but i still can't install the Chainfire 3D Driver!
anyone cant helpme!¿
(sorry my english suck im Costa Rican)
Paulhxc said:
Hi guys, i have a big problem installing The chainfire Driver on my Ace whith CM 10.1-RCO-cooper!
the first time i install the phone stuck on boot animation!
then i reflash the rom! and all okay, but i still can't install the Chainfire 3D Driver!
anyone cant helpme!¿
(sorry my english suck im Costa Rican)
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Chainfire 3d is not compatible with honeycomb, ice cream sandwich or jellybean.. It's written on their play store description.. Please read properly before creating a thread..
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Chainfire 3d is not compatible with honeycomb, ice cream sandwich or jellybean.. It's written on their play store description.. Please read properly before creating a thread..
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thnxs dude, exist other app like chainfire to play high gama games!?
With ics is compatible, i have cm9 and works Fine, is not compatible with jelly bean.
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estape11 said:
With ics is compatible, i have cm9 and works Fine, is not compatible with jelly bean.
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Mae si mala nota que no sirva en jelly bean!
pero esta tuanis la rom jaja entons vale la pena! :good::laugh: