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Jerky performance problem, is it RAM or too many apps etc?

Hi all,
Was wondering if anyone experience jerky performances.
I have about 10 pages of apps installed mostly games and stock apps.
When I use advance app killer, usually i see stock apps eg. facebook, browser, ebook, etc.. When I kill them all, performance doesn't improve much.
If the 10 pages are the reason, any way to know which is running in background and sucking up resources?

The performance of your Gtab is jerky coz of the apps that run in the background even if you close them they restart.. u cn use startup auditor app to increase performance... if all fails hard reset nd install only required Apps not the apps u don't use but run behind nd eat up RAM nd battery
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a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error

I was in a similar situation until I last had to factory reset my Tab due to the whole issue with Google Apps Google Accounts not having access to Google Checkout on the Android Market.
Installed over 100 apps on my first day with the Tab (over-excited, I know ), and realized that my Tab started to lag when opening the app drawer. The problem became most apparent when I shut down or rebooted the Tab; it would literally take minutes to boot up, and often it would freeze and force close my launcher several times in a row.
I chalked it down to having too many apps, but later read that many apps start themselves up on boot even if they had no reason to (e.g. Amazon, Aldiko, etc.)
I've since only installed apps that I would really use throughout the day, but would you guys say that so long these apps do not run on startup (say I disable them using the Autostarts app), I can install a hundred or even two hundred apps without the boot up lag?

So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?

From my RAM manager, I see like 180+ to 200mb out of 400+mb. I think that's the remaining RAM ?
Anyone knows the stock RAM out of the box?

It might be because carriers pre load crap on them
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Installed the free startup app and found the culprits ... GAMELOFT games. They are huge in size and think they eat up the memory in background/at startup.
After disabling, all back to normal.

olyloh6696 said:
a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error
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Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
bzie said:
So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?
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Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.

TheATHEiST said:
Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.
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wow. i never knew of such app. please share.

olyloh6696 said:
wow. i never knew of such app. please share.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1

StarLog said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1
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cheers!
sorry outta 'thanks'

[Q]Backround apps

Are there any solutions for the follow problem.
On my lg2x are there all installed apps in the backround. I use task killer but all apps came to gether. And i can‘t realy quite the apps
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magicmarkus said:
Are there any solutions for the follow problem.
On my lg2x are there all installed apps in the backround. I use task killer but all apps came to gether. And i can‘t realy quite the apps
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I'm having a hard time understanding you. If you don't want the apps running, root and remove/freeze them.

As LeJay said, root your device and remove the apps from /system/app/ or freeze (kind of disabling it) them with an app like Titanium Backup.
Also certain apps are required by the LG framework and can't be removed or frozen. They remain in memory and come back after you kill them. There are threads to be found about which app you can remove /freeze and which not.

[question]regarding default task killer and free/usage Ram

after reading in one thread about atk somewhere in xda, I agree with the author and immediately remove from gt my P1000. then after a few days without atk there are some things I want to ask:
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the killer task default samsung just ending not more than 4-5 applications where my habit to always use the back button from one application to another. this is much different where atk while still using 17-20s can reach the applications in turn. what makes the difference between this 2application?
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Since i'm back to defat task killer, i always been 80-90% of ram usage and everytime i killed it always been around 350 ram, way different with atk which might reached 175 of usage ram. What is all about?
I'm running with default GtP1000 firmware no rooting. Appreciate those whom willing to brighten me up about this free ram
Regards
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You probably want to go through and freeze any garbage/bloat apps that you don't need or use. Personally i use Titanium backup to freeze things, but there are a handful of free apps in the market that will do something similar.
As far as ATK, I generally don't use task killers, and rarely have any issues with my devices.

pvtjoker42 said:
You probably want to go through and freeze any garbage/bloat apps that you don't need or use. Personally i use Titanium backup to freeze things, but there are a handful of free apps in the market that will do something similar.
As far as ATK, I generally don't use task killers, and rarely have any issues with my devices.
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Meaning no need apps to clear-uninstall right? i can see that your device is rooted? yhanks for respond
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freezing apps isn't uninstalling them (though there are plenty that come with stock firmware from any carrier that can and should be uninstalled) when you freeze them, you basically prevent them from running in any way on your Tab. You can defrost them to run if you find you need something you've frozen. Bloat Freezer on the market is a good cheap app that works very well.

pvtjoker42 said:
freezing apps isn't uninstalling them (though there are plenty that come with stock firmware from any carrier that can and should be uninstalled) when you freeze them, you basically prevent them from running in any way on your Tab. You can defrost them to run if you find you need something you've frozen. Bloat Freezer on the market is a good cheap app that works very well.
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I'll try to look at the bloat freezer
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Still curious what is the main different the way atk and default in killing task?
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the default task manager, only kills apps you manually started that are currently active. atk will kill the inactive apps, as well as some background tasks.
Once you get all the bloat frozen, you should see a better battery life, and better performance..

pvtjoker42 said:
the default task manager, only kills apps you manually started that are currently active. atk will kill the inactive apps, as well as some background tasks.
Once you get all the bloat frozen, you should see a better battery life, and better performance..
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I've seen the bloat frozen but it required root,mine not rooted yet
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Prevent apps like Facebook from automatically running

I'be had fairly poor battery performance. When i went into running services i saw that quite a few were running that i didn't start up myself. Like Facebook. Tripit, hootsuite. I've made sure that notifications have been turned off but these apps are still loading up. Any way of making sure they don't load unless i manually load them?
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I've been using watchdog. It lets me know when an app is running in the background and lets me kill it. If there's an automatic solution, I'd like to know about it too.

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Don't use task killers/managers. It's like shutting your computer off repeatedly without shutting it down properly and has the ability to screw **** up.

idefiler6 said:
Don't use task killers/managers. It's like shutting your computer off repeatedly without shutting it down properly and has the ability to screw **** up.
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Agreed, task killers... kill batteries.
Honestly, having it run in the background doesn't kill your battery. Its the syncing. I'm assuming you are NOT rooted? If so, then there are a number of apps to help you, primarily Titanium Backup so you can FREEZE the app.
If you want to have a quick free fix, go under accounts, and turn off sync for those apps. Saves battery life like you wouldn't believe.
There's also an app called "LTE Switch" that brings you to the LTE Menu so you can switch to CDMA (Also a HUGE battery saver)
Good luck!

I am rooted and running UNL3ASH3D V2.0. And yes I understand it's the syncing that kills the battery. I've turned off syncing on these apps but they're still loading which makes me think they are still using at least some battery. None of these programs (like Facebook) are listed in Accounts.

lmsilver said:
I am rooted and running UNL3ASH3D V2.0. And yes I understand it's the syncing that kills the battery. I've turned off syncing on these apps but they're still loading which makes me think they are still using at least some battery. None of these programs (like Facebook) are listed in Accounts.
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None are showing under Accounts? Hmm, thats odd. Usually, when you first get your phone, it asks to set these up. What all apps start up upon reboot? And you are NOT rooted, correct? I'll do some research

I'm not using the Social Networking app. Standalone versions of Facebook, Hoot Suite, etc.

What I'm using is a program that is a part of my file explorer, ES Task Manager. Instead of KILLING the apps, I can force them at startup to not run. So I stopped Gun Bros and Contract Killer from running at startup because they had these annoying notifications they would send me about buying in-game stuff and really didn't need to be run at all. And I couldn't find a way to turn them off lol, so this works out well for me. If you don't want something running at startup, you can do it this way, and it could potentially help battery life because it would only run when you tell it to. And you need root access to do this.

Great suggestion
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Look for program called "Startup Manager" in market - works great!

hello...i used a auto start manager, works great..but i also want that when i close facebook from recent app that it kills the process...in rom tools task manager i see that facebook is a hidden app (like whatsapp) so the built-in task manager doesn't kill it when i close the app..any ideas how to make the facebook app "visible" so that the task manager auto kills it like other apps and games?

idefiler6 said:
Don't use task killers/managers. It's like shutting your computer off repeatedly without shutting it down properly and has the ability to screw **** up.
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People say that but whenever I haven't used one, I can notice the difference in performance. My bionic runs better with ATK.
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[Q] how to freeze the wifi sharing?

Hi there
There alot of roms like RoCKeT RoM for example couse alot of battary drain because this rom have alot of futures and performence but i,m sick of my battary
Any help on how to freeze the wifi
Pleeeeeezzzzzzzzzza
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I am not sure you need to freeze it. I had a rooted Arc before, and used Android Assistant to stop apps like this starting up. The real benefit of it is you can block all the listeners' every app and service has. The listeners are what makes it pop back up again when you have killed it (like WiFi sharing does, and &*^% Social Hub & Buddies!).
Used with the start up kill as well, you have a clean fast start, more RAM, and more battery. The price is zilch too, although I recommend buying it just to support it. What's not to like?
Edit: It is autorun that stopped things loading, and listening to events. Android Asst just prevents loading on boot.

Install Titanium Backup or AntTek App Manager and freeze it/them. I've done it myself.

And how to do it with antek application manager
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1. You must be rooted of course
2. Open the app and hit the "Apps" tab
3. Search for "Wi-Fi Sharing Manager" and "Wi-Fi Sharing"
4. Tap on it/them and choose "Freeze"
5. Done!

Thank you very much
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Is this the only way to get rid of this? I think this is also the case for my bad battery performance as well. So, no way to stop it or kill it without 3rd party software?

Nope, it's a system process, so you'll need root to freeze/delete or do anything about it. If you kill it manually using a task manager the process with start again within seconds.

How long should it take? I'm using Titanium Backup-Pro, been sitting on "freezing Wi-Fi Sharing manager 1.0" for over 5 minutes.

Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?

straycat said:
Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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When you freeze an app with Titanium (or some other system app manager), the system doesn't see it anymore. It's still there, but out of action until you defrost it.
It's a useful feature to experiment with temp shutting down of system apps - if you see that something is wrong, you defrost it, and everything's fine.
If you uninstall it, OTOH, if something bad happens, you're stuck.

straycat said:
Sorry noob questions, but...
What is the benefit to freeze those apps?? What is its purposes? What would be the cons?
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If you mean "why freeze those particular apps?", then the answer is that if they are not used, they are just wasting battery and RAM by running. This is true of a large number of built-in apps that Samsung, and indeed carriers, put on your phone for you.
These particular ones serve no purpose for 90% of users [sorry, needed for Kies air, disregard], so are best stopped. Even if you do use them, they are best prevented from starting up until you want to use them.

freezing wifi sharing and wifi manager will cause kies air not working. unless you never used kies air and planning to freeze it too then i think it should be ok

I want to ask WHAT THE HELL IS THAT WIFI SHARING APP?! How can it be so badly done... I mean it's killing battery as once launched it never stops. I just can't get it...

And that's why we freeze/remove it If you don't use Kies, then get it over with and kill it (the permanent way)
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Fact is, after i froze them (all social hub) wifi sharing came and freezing it didn't change anything, it was still running from boot!

Freeze both wifi sharing and wifi sharing manager.
It will not come back after boot. Tested on 2 S2s and a Note.
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I use Autorun manager to disable all the 'listeners' that these apps have (one is for boot). This is in many ways better because I can still use them by actually running them, but they do not start by themselves.