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i really hope its me............. i hope its something i am doing wrong
i have heard virtually all HTC products...........and everyone has paired up just fine with my car bluetooth kit (BMW 3 series, 06 plate)
i eagerly awaited the Kaiser as the complete utopic device.............and i still think it is..............except..............THE WEEDY, TINNY, LOW VOLUME audio when on Handsfree !!!!!!!!!!!!
my carkit allows upto 4 devices to be memorised, so i have paired my HTC Touch, my HTC S710 and the TyTn II to it.......... the first 2 are perfect, rich, bassy sound with good volume that is perfectly audible even on the motorway.................
the TyTn II is VERY low, just about audible in stationary traffic and not at all bassy........... you remember those weedy HiFi systems that had about 5w Total output and could be bought for £29.99 !!!!!
i have seen a few posts saying the same thing........... i wonder if it is HTC's ROM that has this??? what about the T-Mobile users or perhaps the Dopod users??
i guess it is objective........... if you have never had a HTC device, you would have nothing to judge it by and therefore you are probably satisfied......but i have had LOADS of different devices, HTC and Mobile carrier branded, and none are as pathetic as the TyTn II on Bluetooth audio........... it is seriously stopping me using it as my main phone device which is such a big shame
PLEASE......... if anyone has any reg tweaks, rom upgrades, suggestions, ideas let me know.............. this £450 device is nowhere near as good as my wife's £30 mobile phone when it comes to audio...............
cheers
Mark
PS have to say, the audio is fine when you listen into the internal speaker or on speakerphone, so not sure it is the audio chip ???
Hi. I have the AT&T tilt and I noticed the same thing when using the audio section for playing mp3's via my Jabra BT620's when I play music using the built in wmp I cant quite get the volume I like so I switched to using CorePlayer 1.1.1 which has a preamp option in it and I can tell you for a fact there is nothing wrong with bluetooth volume when you do that. So it is probably going to be an easy software fix or even a simple registry hack to fix the volume issue.
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Hi. I have the AT&T tilt and I noticed the same thing when using the audio section for playing mp3's via my Jabra BT620's when I play music using the built in wmp I cant quite get the volume I like so I switched to using CorePlayer 1.1.1 which has a preamp option in it and I can tell you for a fact there is nothing wrong with bluetooth volume when you do that. So it is probably going to be an easy software fix or even a simple registry hack to fix the volume issue.
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that sounds good.............but as well as the Bluetooth volume its also the quality of the audio that i find hard to explain, no bass, just really tinny
but....... i would be happy to even increase the volume only at this stage!
Something to try: when bluetooth connection is active, tap the speaker icon on the taskbar of your today screen and turn the left hand volume slider up for more A2DP volume and the right hand volume slider up for more handsfree volume. I've tested the left hand slider & it works like a charm for hifi audio. On my 5 series, the audio sounded fine if I just bumped the volume using the steering wheel controls so I haven't tested the effect of the right hand slider on handsfree audio.
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Something to try: when bluetooth connection is active, tap the speaker icon on the taskbar of your today screen and turn the left hand volume slider up for more A2DP volume and the right hand volume slider up for more handsfree volume. I've tested the left hand slider & it works like a charm for hifi audio. On my 5 series, the audio sounded fine if I just bumped the volume using the steering wheel controls so I haven't tested the effect of the right hand slider on handsfree audio.
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yep, bluetooth active, tap the icon, both sides up at maximum. place a call, turn 'in call' volume up to maximum, still really low and weedy !
tried the steering wheel volume and also the radio volume and still no joy!
as i said, all other devices are fine, just the tytn!
thanks for the suggestion though
maybe theres a problem with the bluetooth/wifi ariel as i have issues with my bluetooth totally failing when i turn on wifi
It works fine with the Lexus car kit. However the audio is mono and comes from the left channel only
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It works fine with the Lexus car kit. However the audio is mono and comes from the left channel only
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if you dont want it in mono try PocketPlayer it will more then likely fix your problem. I love audible books, and this is now my default program for listening to them over bluetooth.
Definitely something wrong with mine. I think we should keep communicating with HTC until they fix it. My Blueant Z9 is unusable. No bass, and when I had the volume turned all the way up [both phone and headset], it almost broke my ear drum. Yet, I hardly can make out the sound coming from the ear set. I had no problem with 8525. It definitely has something to do with the antenna or the driver.
I am hoping HTC will respond to this asap.
I'm using a JawBone and what I notice, is when I use the headset to increase volume, the volume doesn't seem to actually be increasing, even tho the headset is giving acknowledgment beeps.
Seems I don't really have any control over the bluetooth headset volume. Nothing I can perceive anyway.
-James
I can say that the fidelity on the bluetooth stereo is absolutely awesome on mine. I just used Coreplayer so I could boost the volume a tad using the preamp settings.
maybe each profile in your car kit stores unique settings for bass etc - have you tried fiddling with its settings?
There are several threads running about this. I have Jawbones and it appears that it's mainly the phone BT audio that has issues. I can use BT audio toggle and divert Coreplayer or SlingBox or iGuidance Nav sounds out to the Jawbone and they sound loud, bassy and clear.
I then place a call and the sound is wimpy and low. It's not and antenna problem, I use BT internetsharing and BT headsets all day long with this Kaiser with good range. It's "hopefully" a software issue between the phone's audio output to bluetooth. The phone's audio quality on the naitive phone's earpiece and speaker are very good quality, better quality, than my 8525 had.
It's frustrating, it's the only major flaw in the phone and HTC seems clueless in all the responses I've seen to date.
just in case anyone is interested, i have found a small improvement by doing the following:-
using a registry editor
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/Settings
change USEJOINTSTEREO from 1 to 0
if nothing else, it just seems louder.....................
hope it helps
Mark
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just in case anyone is interested, i have found a small improvement by doing the following:-
using a registry editor
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/Settings
change USEJOINTSTEREO from 1 to 0
if nothing else, it just seems louder.....................
hope it helps
Mark
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Perhaps this tweak could be included in Chainfire's utility?
its really to low to listen music!! i have the original rom fr of the kaiser help please
Not loud enough, how about the earphones?
Assuming you've mastered the volume slider or jog wheel on the side (see the instruction manual for further details on that) and it's already at maximum, the next step is to change the device you're listening through. I use the Kaisers speaker to output the TomTom Navigator 6 instructions when cycling around with the phone mounted on my bicycles handlebars, thats loud enough for me even in most traffic. If I plug in the original earphones though, when playing music on the train, I can get it very loud (unpleasantly so). If it's just the speaker volume you want to crank up, I suspect thats a hardware limitation of the tiny speaker and you'd risk damaging it even if there was a way to increase the signal going to it. Personally, I'm pleased the speaker isn't 'to' loud, it makes it less likely that yobs will want to create noise pollution with their 'music' from these devices on public transport!
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its really to low to listen music!! i have the original rom fr of the kaiser help please
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I agree with you the volume is low period, either it be from headphones or internal speaker. Instead of wasting your time like Flying KiWi (dude, whats with your post, you just typing junk to get a post count up?) I will offer some suggestions.
I use TCMP (or CorePlayer) to play mp3's and there's an actual volume booster in the options. in core player to find this option, goto menu, tools, preferences, select page, audio, adjust Preamp accordingly.
Give it a shot, I think you will be pleased..
I Agree TCPMP has an excellent Audio / Preamp volume Increase that works excellent. Sure would be great if someone could create an app that would do the same to anything you use.
I use Resco Radio and the volume is too low at Max. I work in a factory where there's grinding going on with the compressor kicking in every few mins.
I end up having to switch to TCPMP to get enough volume to hear. I've Tried HTC Equalizer / Booster but it does nothing. Maybe someone could tweak it so it Does Work?
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I Agree TCPMP has an excellent Audio / Preamp volume Increase that works excellent. Sure would be great if someone could create an app that would do the same to anything you use.
I use Resco Radio and the volume is too low at Max. I work in a factory where there's grinding going on with the compressor kicking in every few mins.
I end up having to switch to TCPMP to get enough volume to hear. I've Tried HTC Equalizer / Booster but it does nothing. Maybe someone could tweak it so it Does Work?
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Well, are you sure your mp3 songs have been ripped to a good volume? Do they play at normal/loud levels in any other MP3 player (I'm assuming they're encoded in mp3 format) It's no use trying to crank up the volume with HTC Equaliser/Booster etc if your original song files are of low volume/quality...Then you'd have to use a Sound Normaliser/Booster like MP3 Gain on your PC etc to first boost and normalise the volume before you try and squeeze your device for every volume gain you can get...
i owned the htc wisard before and with the bridage_gain_headset.cab i had no pb to fix the volume up but by now i cant listen music without hearing everything around me :'(
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Well, are you sure your mp3 songs have been ripped to a good volume? Do they play at normal/loud levels in any other MP3 player (I'm assuming they're encoded in mp3 format) It's no use trying to crank up the volume with HTC Equaliser/Booster etc if your original song files are of low volume/quality...Then you'd have to use a Sound Normaliser/Booster like MP3 Gain on your PC etc to first boost and normalise the volume before you try and squeeze your device for every volume gain you can get...
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I understand your post but I was talking about streaming radio from Resco Radio. Has nothing to do with .mp3 files.
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i owned the htc wisard before and with the bridage_gain_headset.cab i had no pb to fix the volume up but by now i cant listen music without hearing everything around me :'(
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Do you have that .cab? Can you post it? would like to fool with it. Thanks.
this is the bridage
Thanks! I'll let you know how or if it works out.
okay thx
Just one question. What exactly does this .cab do?
Its tiny -- only 1 kb. I installed it but not sure what it does. Does it just kick up the volume / registry setting?
I opened a few media players and it does seems louder but not sure. I will fool around with it more later.
Please Advise. Thanks.
yes change the registry setting..
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I understand your post but I was talking about streaming radio from Resco Radio. Has nothing to do with .mp3 files.
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Apologies, I totally misread your post. I use Resco Radio as well and my volume is OK there and I actually have to turn it down quite a bit...What ROM are you running? Maybe let's start there...I'll post my Resco Radio settings (screenshot) later if that helps...
yes maybe its because of this rom i run the originale french rom from htc...
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Apologies, I totally misread your post. I use Resco Radio as well and my volume is OK there and I actually have to turn it down quite a bit...What ROM are you running? Maybe let's start there...I'll post my Resco Radio settings (screenshot) later if that helps...
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Hi, I'm just using the Stock Rom TMO HTC Wing. Only thing I've done is change the pagepool to 4mb, which improved things alot. Resco Radio volume is fine except when I'm at work and all the machinery and compressors are running, which is like all day. I just need a little bit more, not much. TCPMP does it with preamp volume boost.
I can change the knob to one that has 11 instead of 10.
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Hi, I'm just using the Stock Rom TMO HTC Wing. Only thing I've done is change the pagepool to 4mb, which improved things alot. Resco Radio volume is fine except when I'm at work and all the machinery and compressors are running, which is like all day. I just need a little bit more, not much. TCPMP does it with preamp volume boost.
I can change the knob to one that has 11 instead of 10.
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Well, you do know stock ROMs have been proved (SPB Benchmarks and others) to perform sub-optimally compared to "cooked" ones in many respects (file transfer speed, write speed etc inter alia)...I'm not suggesting you go out and start "flashing" cooked ROMs just to solve this but maybe a different stock ROM to start with...coz we're really trouble-shooting here to find out if it's a hardware (HTC Wing + resco Radio) or software (stock sound drivers, TCMP application etc) related limitation...
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Well, you do know stock ROMs have been proved (SPB Benchmarks and others) to perform sub-optimally compared to "cooked" ones in many respects (file transfer speed, write speed etc inter alia)...I'm not suggesting you go out and start "flashing" cooked ROMs just to solve this but maybe a different stock ROM to start with...coz we're really trouble-shooting here to find out if it's a hardware (HTC Wing + resco Radio) or software (stock sound drivers, TCMP application etc) related limitation...
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Yeah I hear ya. The only reason I don't wanna flash it is because its Warrantied by T-Mobile for one year. They've already replaced it two times. If I flash it, I'm on my own. After one year is up, yes, I'll start messing with it.
My Old Audiox 5600 worked much better once I flashed it from WM 2003 to WM5.
What about max level via a2dp?
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I agree with you the volume is low period, either it be from headphones or internal speaker. Instead of wasting your time like Flying KiWi (dude, whats with your post, you just typing junk to get a post count up?) I will offer some suggestions.
I use TCMP (or CorePlayer) to play mp3's and there's an actual volume booster in the options. in core player to find this option, goto menu, tools, preferences, select page, audio, adjust Preamp accordingly.
Give it a shot, I think you will be pleased..
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Does anyone know if this affects overall sound volume. I listen to music on my Tilt via A2DP and the sound volume is so low it's almost unusable.
Hi there
I'm having something of a weird problem. I was playing around with my MDA Compact IV (might i add: this housing looks much slicker then the standard), and i pulled out the headset while listening to music in the standard TouchFLO mediaplayer. When i put the headset back in the audio-quality became really crappy, as if i was calling to someone who's holding up a radio on his side of the line. This also now affects Windows Media Player, but not the FM Radio. Has anybody else had this issue?
Today I used my MDA Compact IV for the first time as a mp3 player, with the standard (crappy) headphones.
I've noticed that the sound is SH!T.
No bass at all, tried the 'audio-booster' option, but the sound doesn't get better.
Than I tried the FM-modus, and noticed that the radio sound was better.
Not verry good, but BETTER....
HOW comes? Are the standard headphones crap? Is the 'soundprocessor' crap, or what?
At this moment it's not usable as a good mp3 player...
And what about the volume? At max, it's still not really loud.
EDIT: Strange.... unplugged/plugged the headphones again, tried it in windows mediaplayer (first I tried it in the touchflow audio player) and now it sounds better, also more/deeper bass, in both player.
But still: The sound is absolutely nothing compared to a good Ipod. Is this due to the crappy headphone (thought that the mda compact IV headphone isn't the same as the touch diamond one...)
Well thing is, using the Audio Booster i had the audio to pretty decent quality, nice and warm with enough bass. So then i yanked out the headset and now it's ****ty... What gives?
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hi guys,
i got this problem a couple of times, and it was really annoying as i knew it wasnt right cos listening to music was the first thing i did with my diamond and i was amazed by the sound quality, but i had exactly the same issue a few days later, tried to listen to music and audio quality was so poor it hurt my ears! so i did a hard reset and the sound quality was perfect again. then a few days later it happened again. i have narrowed it down to installing 'advanced config'. both times the issue came about was after i had installed advanced config. i havnt installed since and my sound has been perfect for ages. i have installed games and other apps and still fine, so for me, im damn sure its advanced config that did it, hope this helps, just do a hard reset and it will be fine again, just keep an eye on what happens after you install something!
Okay, found the answer:
There is a BUG in the AUDIO-BOOSTER.
Try:
Plug in your headphone, choose MUSIC in TFL3D, go to menu-audio-booster, turn it on, listen to the music, unplug the headphone while music is playing. Plug it in again and you here that all the bass is gone and quality is crap.
Stop music, disable the Audio-Booster option, play your music again and the sound quality is good again!
So DON'T use the AUDIO-BOOSTER, cause everytime you unplug your headphones, the music becomes crap again!
Wow thanks, that really helped d'you suppose HTC will bring out a fix for this?
Another solution
Hi everyone,
You're right, there is a bug with the bass sound on the Diamond.
After some experiences, i found this way to solve the problem:
1- Plug de headphones (original)
2- Open de Radio Fm application and after hearing some sound, close it.
3- Goto the music tab and play the MP3 (with equalizer on).
4- Change de volume.
After this steps normally there is bass again.
By the way, does anyone know if the use of other headphones (not the original) improves the quality of Diamond's sound (Hi frequencies) ?
I want to buy an usb adapter for "normal" jack headphones but I don't have idea whether it is worth.
Regards
i found that bluetooth headsets are not affected by this problem, whenever i had this problem, if i used a A2DP headset, it was not affected by the loss of bass or any quality at all, just the USB headset was affected
Hi guys, actually I haven't searched for this problem (doesnt work somehow :/)
so don't lynch me
I have one little problem with my xda diamond - it's too loud.
When I'm listening to music with the standard headset (haven't bought a 3,5mm adaptor yet) I'm always on the last bar and even sometimes that seems to loud (yeah, I have to admit, my ears are pretty sensitive - but that was never a problem with other mobiles). I'm afraid that if I buy that 3,5mm socket and use it with my standard headphones it will get even louder, because their output is very high....
I tried to reduce the volume in the options - I can reduce it to 2-3% which is optimal. But sometimes I get this horrible bug, that some songs are on 2-3% volum WAY louder than on 10 or 20%. Just imagine, you listen to a song and when it ends the next song just starts like "BAMBAMBAMBAM" and your ears are completly numb
Somebody knows how to fix this, or can recommend me a different player?
Would be very grateful
Cheers,
Kashik
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Hi guys, actually I haven't searched for this problem (doesnt work somehow :/)
so don't lynch me
I have one little problem with my xda diamond - it's too loud.
When I'm listening to music with the standard headset (haven't bought a 3,5mm adaptor yet) I'm always on the last bar and even sometimes that seems to loud (yeah, I have to admit, my ears are pretty sensitive - but that was never a problem with other mobiles). I'm afraid that if I buy that 3,5mm socket and use it with my standard headphones it will get even louder, because their output is very high....
I tried to reduce the volume in the options - I can reduce it to 2-3% which is optimal. But sometimes I get this horrible bug, that some songs are on 2-3% volum WAY louder than on 10 or 20%. Just imagine, you listen to a song and when it ends the next song just starts like "BAMBAMBAMBAM" and your ears are completly numb
Somebody knows how to fix this, or can recommend me a different player?
Would be very grateful
Cheers,
Kashik
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Mine is also the same when i have the original headset plugged in, i think the audio booster is set to very high or something, try changing the settings :]
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Mine is also the same when i have the original headset plugged in, i think the audio booster is set to very high or something, try changing the settings :]
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its not even activated :/
other solutions?
Use mp3gain to adjust the volume of your tracks. This is done (losslessly and reversibly) by adjusting the gain settings encoded into the mp3.
I have all the tracks on my PC set to 92dB but I have increased that volume up to 95dB for the tracks on my Diamond
to make sure:
when you use the up and down volume keys, volume is changed 3 bars at a time (3 out of 15 bars). Have you noticed u can change the volume a bar at a time bij using the touch screen?
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to make sure:
when you use the up and down volume keys, volume is changed 3 bars at a time (3 out of 15 bars). Have you noticed u can change the volume a bar at a time bij using the touch screen?
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yeah, but on the first bar with some songs its still too loud.
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yeah, but on the first bar with some songs its still too loud.
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I´d like to have this problem I permanently looking for some tweak to make mp3s playback louder...n I think I´m not stone-deaf
NOT JUST YOU
the speakerphone on my diamand is poo!
liamhere said:
NOT JUST YOU
the speakerphone on my diamand is poo!
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Speakerphone volume seems like to be a joke or what
tommm said:
I´d like to have this problem I permanently looking for some tweak to make mp3s playback louder...n I think I´m not stone-deaf
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maybe its a specific problem with my diamond... anyways, maybe its because of the player - can you recommend me other players?
You haven't been very clear about which player you're actually using!
I assume it's the HTC audio manager in TF3D? You've adjusted the volume of the player (in Schaps Advanced Config or something) down to 2-3% and it's still too loud? Something wrong there.
Try the Windows Media player that should already be installed.
Have you tried downloading and using mp3gain as I suggested above? It sounds like part of your problem is mp3 tracks with wildly different levels.
Hi I don't know if you have tried this obvious sollution yet or not; however, I thought I should mention it anyway, just because I know that when people tend to get frustrated, sometimes the obvious just slips by us.
Remember you have two volume controls on your device when playing MP3's. Your Audio player volume and your main phone volume. Try reducing both until you reach the optimim output level. I know that this really does not solve the problem because really you should not have to do this, but it might work for now.
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maybe its a specific problem with my diamond... anyways, maybe its because of the player - can you recommend me other players?
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Like said above - wm player has its own volume control so try to reduce both
I just bought the bluetooth headset Jabra-3030, and the volume control on that headset acts as a audioplayer control, and not as general volume control (like HTC RC E100). So I can reduce the volume more and it's far better (because when I work I like a low low volume )
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You haven't been very clear about which player you're actually using!
I assume it's the HTC audio manager in TF3D? You've adjusted the volume of the player (in Schaps Advanced Config or something) down to 2-3% and it's still too loud? Something wrong there.
Try the Windows Media player that should already be installed.
Have you tried downloading and using mp3gain as I suggested above? It sounds like part of your problem is mp3 tracks with wildly different levels.
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i'm using the TF3D integrated player. no i didnt try mp3gain yet. no at 2-3% it is perfectly fine - but sometimes the volume seems to explode, especially with some songs - i see the point there. where can i find the standard WM mp3player btw?
Start digging in Programs
I have the same problem - if I use TFL3D and the standart headset that comes with the device, music is WAY TOO LOUD, even when I bring the volume control to just one bar. Using another music player (even MP) works, but hey, there should be a solution to fix that in TFL3D as well!
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I have the same problem - if I use TFL3D and the standart headset that comes with the device, music is WAY TOO LOUD, even when I bring the volume control to just one bar. Using another music player (even MP) works, but hey, there should be a solution to fix that in TFL3D as well!
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Hmm. I use the music player in TFL3d too. And yup, the volume was a little too loud at first..
Here's a fix :
Using a registry editor, I've changed the following key values:
HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config\music_player_volumn --> 20 (default: 100)
HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Information\volumn --> 20 (default: 100)
Music volume is now comfy, even at 3 to 4 bars
kcinc said:
Hmm. I use the music player in TFL3d too. And yup, the volume was a little too loud at first..
Here's a fix :
Using a registry editor, I've changed the following key values:
HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config\music_player_volumn --> 20 (default: 100)
HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Information\volumn --> 20 (default: 100)
Music volume is now comfy, even at 3 to 4 bars
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It works like a charm, thanx
This fix works brilliantly! Thanks!!!
Now I don't have to carry another mp3 player to the library
i know a lot of people were having issues with their speakers and notifications. ive never had that problem, however i do have issues with the in-call volume on my headphones.
is there a way at all to adjust the volume output on the DX? ive seen DSPmanager for other stuff along with the louder volume hack for other stuff, but nothing for the DX. as it is right now, if im driving any significant speed i cannot even use my headphones to talk on the phone as i cant hear anything. when using the phone itself its still very low but at least useable.
im also still looking for a global equalizer. the stock "presets" for sound are horrible at best to me and id prefer to have something i can adjust globally. i know mixzing along with a couple other media players incorporate an equalizer, but id really like something across the board if possible.
Interested in this as well. The sound and volume is sooooo poor it's a shame.
For such a powerhouse...one would think the device would have 1/2 way decent sound
Agreed. I'm really missing Audiobooster right now, as well as the volume tweaks available for my old TP2.
check out the last page here volume HACK for a true volume "hack"
Yeah that's a bit too desperate for my taste...
yeah im not looking for that kind of modding yet. its also not the issue ive got.
my speaker is fine but the outputs are for some reason being cut when i use pandora/music/youtube versus phone call volume. music is fine for me. im usually 1-3 steps below max volume depending on the music, but even when the phone call volume is at full volume it sounds like it's 1/2 as loud as it needs to be.
btw im using the older style earphones to do this. they actually somewhat work with droidshuffle or beyondpod pausing/playing and as a mic for calls.