I've been away from the forum for awhile. My NC is rooted at 1.0.1. Can I go to 1.3 without loosing root? How?
indeana said:
I've been away from the forum for awhile. My NC is rooted at 1.0.1. Can I go to 1.3 without loosing root? How?
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There's a whole OS change there, so no. The best thing to do is do a titanium backup of your apps/data, then restore to stock, then do the 1.3 update, then go run the manual nooter. I also posted a slightly modified version of manual nooter that you could use as well here.
Thank you for your help. I'll take a look at your posts.
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So, if I've understood correctly, my procedure would be as follows:
1) Create a bootable ClockWorkMod sd card and update it with the 3.2.0.1 files
2) Add both Manual Nooter files to the sd card
3) Back up the current state with Titanium BU
4) Wipe the System & Data directories
5) Restore to Stock 1.0
6) Register the device with B&N
7) Apply the 1.3 update
8) Run the first Manual Nooter file from the sd card
9) Reboot
10) Login to Market
11) Run the second Manual Nooter file from the sd card
12) Reboot
13) Run the "Fix Permissions" from the sd card
14) Reboot
15) Restore from Titanium BU
-Does step 10 require the Google login ID & password I originally used way back when?
-Will restoring with Titanium BU bring back all apps, data, settings like I've been used to seeing?
-Will I still be able to use ADB to sideload content, apps, etc?
indeana said:
So, if I've understood correctly, my procedure would be as follows:
1) Create a bootable ClockWorkMod sd card and update it with the 3.2.0.1 files
2) Add both Manual Nooter files to the sd card
3) Back up the current state with Titanium BU
4) Wipe the System & Data directories
5) Restore to Stock 1.0
6) Register the device with B&N
7) Apply the 1.3 update
8) Run the first Manual Nooter file from the sd card
9) Reboot
10) Login to Market
11) Run the second Manual Nooter file from the sd card
12) Reboot
13) Run the "Fix Permissions" from the sd card
14) Reboot
15) Restore from Titanium BU
-Does step 10 require the Google login ID & password I originally used way back when?
-Will restoring with Titanium BU bring back all apps, data, settings like I've been used to seeing?
-Will I still be able to use ADB to sideload content, apps, etc?
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That's about right. Except fix permissions is something you do in Rom Manager (at least that's where I do it).
TiBU will bring back the data/settings only or all 3 if you want. I reinstalled from market or amazon and then restored the data when I went that route.
Yes, you should use the same google id, although I'm not sure it's required. But you'll be able to use ADB and all that.
Is Rom Manager a paid app? I'm not familiar with it.
indeana said:
Is Rom Manager a paid app? I'm not familiar with it.
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No - it's available from the market as free. There is a paid version as well though. Not sure how exactly you get it on there without a working market though (if it's not working). Maybe AppBrain or a quick google search for the apk - the free one shouldn't be an issue to get.
Titanium BU Question
So far, the conversion has gone well. I followed the steps outlined above, except I went from 1.0.1 stock to 1.2 stock and then to 1.3 stock.
I am at the point where I would like to use TBU to restore applications and data. However, I get the following message:
INSTALL BLOCKED
For security, your phone is set to block installation of applications not obtained from Android Market.
How do I unblock? I used to go under Nook Tools but I don't see a tick to enable non-market installs.
indeana said:
So far, the conversion has gone well. I followed the steps outlined above, except I went from 1.0.1 stock to 1.2 stock and then to 1.3 stock.
I am at the point where I would like to use TBU to restore applications and data. However, I get the following message:
INSTALL BLOCKED
For security, your phone is set to block installation of applications not obtained from Android Market.
How do I unblock? I used to go under Nook Tools but I don't see a tick to enable non-market installs.
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I noticed the check box on the first page, but no lettering now after 1.3. Check and uncheck that one anyway and try it.
Are my Amazon Market annd Android Market apps retained when I sideload the 1.3 update? Do I need to reinstall all the apps and restore the settings? Thanks.
I am wondering if OTA updates will still work if I install apps as system apps. For example, Avast (anti-theft app, successor to theft aware) has an option to install as a system app on a rooted phone, thereby enabling the app to survive a factory wipe. The way I believe it does this is install in the root directory. My understanding was that OTA updates will check to see if the root directory is a recognized stock directory before installing, so this would imply at installing other apps to root will cause this check to fail. However, I believe superuser is installed to root directory as part of the rooting process, and I have been able to perform OTAs on phones with superuser installed.
Anyone have any experience with updating OTA with apps installed to the root directory?
I believe that it moves them from /data/app to /system/app, thus changing how the phone sees the app.
Rlin5741 said:
I am wondering if OTA updates will still work if I install apps as system apps. For example, Avast (anti-theft app, successor to theft aware) has an option to install as a system app on a rooted phone, thereby enabling the app to survive a factory wipe. The way I believe it does this is install in the root directory. My understanding was that OTA updates will check to see if the root directory is a recognized stock directory before installing, so this would imply at installing other apps to root will cause this check to fail. However, I believe superuser is installed to root directory as part of the rooting process, and I have been able to perform OTAs on phones with superuser installed.
Anyone have any experience with updating OTA with apps installed to the root directory?
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Usually the system apps are only updated individually with patch files. If there were extra files under /system, I don't think the patch would fail (or even care about it). I don't have any experience with it though, but that would be my logical guess.
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AFAIK any changes to system changes cause OTA to fail. But I could be wrong. Never tried
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I used to be on stock gb rom and rooted, then i flashed to stock ics rom through pc odin. However after being on ics rom i can't install titanium backup, it says device memory low or full, but i still have about 1gb of free space. All other apps would install without a hitch except titanium backup. Can someone please help?
First you should post exactly what rom you flashed and if you followed instructions if you rooted etc etc etc.
then maybe people can help you better.
- compumasterpr already mentioned it and you’re probably aware of it, anyway, TB of course needs root permissions
- TB stores the backups in /sdcard/TitaniumBackup, so you can copy this directory manually for safety’s sake
- delete /sdcard/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup if it exists
- clear data of TB in settings-> applications
- if that still doesn’t help, have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722145
http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/titanium-backup-kb
When i flashed my Note from gb to ics i also lost root. So i think you should re root it
i already re rooted thru cmw.
update: i read somewhere here that i need to delete a file associated with TB, what i did was installed es file explorer to go thru the system files and deleted the so called file in sys/apps. that seem to did the trick as i can install TB.
bratski said:
i already re rooted thru cmw.
update: i read somewhere here that i need to delete a file associated with TB, what i did was installed es file explorer to go thru the system files and deleted the so called file in sys/apps. that seem to did the trick as i can install TB.
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what file is this? I have the same error.
I have 2 issues that are really starting to tick me off. At first they were just an annoyance, but now... GRRR!!!
1st issue:
Randomly, my D3 will just reboot, and it goes to ROM Manager's Recovery and stays there until I do something. So if this happens at say 3AM, I don't have an alarm clock any more as I get a list to Reboot, Backup/Restore, Update from ZIP, etc.
2nd issue:
Everytime the phone reboots, the same 32 apps are uninstalled. No, not just missing the icon, COMPLETELY uninstalled as reloading the Homescreen DOES NOT load the applications, they are still uninstalled. It also refreezes an app I have to keep unfreezing. Some of the apps are installed to the phone, some are moved off the phone to the media area, some contain no extra data/download.
Things I've tried:
1. Mounting system as RW, reinstalling them all, and rebooting, no luck.
2. Mount system partition, used Permissions Pro to reset all permissions (I don't like some games having to load at boot, I think it's stupid, so I denied them that) and performed step 1 again, no luck.
3. Used ROM Toolbox Pro to fix permissions, and performed step 1 again, no luck.
4. Moved the apps that were in the media area back to the phone, back to the media area, and back to the phone, no luck.
5. Reinstalling and unfreezing and rebooting without doing anything special, no luck.
6. Yelling and screaming at it, as well as threaten it's life, no luck.
7. Begged it to behave, no luck.
Droid 3, Rooted, ROM Manager (with ClockworkMod Recovery), Titanium Backup, a few of the VZW bloatware removed.
I'm willing to do a factory reset, but will I have to re-root? I don't mind losing ClockworkMod Recovery if needed, as I want to safestrap it anyways. I have searched many forums over and over, includling those not for Droid 3 devices, but they all have to do with the app appearing uninstalled, not actually being removed off the phone.
Thanks greatly.
I'm pretty sure you should NOT use rom manager on you d3 to flash anything. Sounds like it might be time to sbf back to stock, reroot and start fresh with safestrap.
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Jason Roach said:
I'm pretty sure you should NOT use rom manager on you d3 to flash anything. Sounds like it might be time to sbf back to stock, reroot and start fresh with safestrap.
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Stock ROM.
if you made changes to settings, removed apks, device is not completely stock anymore
you should restore any stock apps you removed, best way to remove unwanted apps is to freeze with titanium backup pro, and unfreeze if needed
if you can not restore all stock app, made changes to settings, or still doesn't work
flash .xml recovery image, just use correct one, for your device and system version
menu/ system settings/about phone/ system version
if 5.6.890.XT862 use .5.6.890.XT862.xml and rsd lite
if 5.7.906.XT862 use .906 1-click-sbf.exe + tools [10-8-2012]
links in my list
sd_shadow's [Collection] of Links: FAQs, Guides, Rooting, SBFs, ROMs... - Google Docs
SBF and use Safestrap next time.
correct, just install minimoto, or XT861 5.8.25 Stock ROM. Android 2.3.6
sd_shadow said:
if you made changes to settings, removed apks, device is not completely stock anymore
you should restore any stock apps you removed, best way to remove unwanted apps is to freeze with titanium backup pro, and unfreeze if needed
if you can not restore all stock app, made changes to settings, or still doesn't work
flash .xml recovery image, just use correct one, for your device and system version
menu/ system settings/about phone/ system version
if 5.6.890.XT862 use .5.6.890.XT862.xml and rsd lite
if 5.7.906.XT862 use .906 1-click-sbf.exe + tools [10-8-2012]
links in my list
sd_shadow's [Collection] of Links: FAQs, Guides, Rooting, SBFs, ROMs... - Google Docs
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Thanks! I am on .906, so I'm downloading that huge 450 MB 1click file, but I have a few questions..
1. Do I have to re-root?
2. Is this going to put me back to .890?
3. I can follow the directions here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1872206) to install and use safe strap (the 4th link) even if I don't plan to dual boot?
4. What's the difference between bootstrapper and SafeStrap, or are they the same?
Thanks very much for you help thus far.
before flashing 906 sbf, you may want to back up app/data with titanium backup, texts/call log with sms backup+, confirm contacts are backed up
1. Do I have to re-root?
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yes, use motofail
2. Is this going to put me back to .890?
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yes but I would take update, like recommended by ovelayer
Once you have successfully sbf'd you will have to reinstall the .906 ota. you can accomplish this one of 2 ways
1. Go to settings/about phone/system updates and follow the steps
2. Download the update from this thread push it to your EXTERNAL sdcard boot your phone into STOCK recovery pwr+x choose install update
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3. I can follow the directions here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1872206) to install and use safe strap (the 4th link) even if I don't plan to dual boot?
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use the How to install and use safe strap 3.05 on the droid 3 for true multi booting on ROMs, video in that post
4. What's the difference between bootstrapper and SafeStrap, or are they the same?
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they are similar, with safestap you leave stock rom, custom roms are install differently so you can switch back and forth between reboots
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also ovelayer doesn't cover, wiping data
if phone bootloops, after flashing sbf, try wiping cache in android recovery
Android system recovery <3a>
with device off
hold X & power, when you see triangle, !, & Andy, press both volume buttons
if phone still bootloops go back to android recovery, and wipe data
or save sometime, and wipe data before flashing sbf
So, I did the whole 1-click-sbf thing, activated the phone, didn't install anything yet, but I did update all the system apps (GMail app, Play Store, etc) and everything was good. I also restored my text messages and call history.
I rooted the phone just fine as well.
Then I started to download and install some apps by using the market not my Titanium Backups.
Moved the ones to the Media Area that didn't automatically move.
Rebooted again, and some apps are uninstalled again, but this time, all of them are ones that were moved to SD card, but not all SD moved apps got uninstalled.
So, what I decided to do, is reinstall the missing apps and keep them on the phone to see what happens. The ones that were uninstalling are now staying installed, however, now some that never uninstalled (that are on the SD) are uninstalling themselves. GRR!
So, the last thing I tried is to now reinstall the uninstalled apps, move them back to the phone, and reboot to see what happens now... I finally got around to finishing up this and after this last reboot, NEW applications that never got uninstalled are now uninstalled.
Time for new phone perhaps?
maybe reformat, your sd card?
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maybe reformat, your sd card?
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Internal or External (32 GB MicroSD)?
I formatted internal when I did the1 click thingy.
formatting sd card is different then wiping data in android recovery
wiping data does not touch internal or external sd cards
sd_shadow said:
formatting sd card is different then wiping data in android recovery
wiping data does not touch internal or external sd cards
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I went to settings, storage, format.
I never did have good success with Titanium.
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MrObvious said:
I never did have good success with Titanium.
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It may depend on what you are trying to restore
I use the same backups on D2, DX2, and D3
but I don't play games, and use sms backup + for text and call logs
I've never had a problem with tibu, as long as I only use it for user apps.
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Since the topic of this thread isn't about TiBu, let's go back to the original topic....
I got tired of the issue and random apps unintalling, so I removed my external MicroSD, did a factory reset (which didn't un-root, therefore, I didn't have to re-root), formatted the internal SD (Media Area) and went through the setup again, I didn't have to activate again though. I updated all system apps, rebooted. All OK. Installed a few apps, reboot, OK. Moved what I could to the SD, and reboot, all OK. Installed about 20 other apps and reboot, all still OK. Moved what I could to SD, and reboot. 1 app uninstalled itself. Completely removed from applications and reboot. All ok, no further apps uninstalled. Installed about 20 more apps, reboot and all is ok, moved over what I could to media area (internal SD) and reboot. 2 apps were uninstalled, both moved to media area and neither one part of the original 32. Uninstalled both from the applications setting and rebooted. 4 more apps uninstalled, none part of the original 32.
I'm at a loss here...
Does TEC from VZW cover this type of issue? I can un-root the phone and they'd be none the wiser.
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Since the topic of this thread isn't about TiBu, let's go back to the original topic....
I got tired of the issue and random apps unintalling, so I removed my external MicroSD, did a factory reset (which didn't un-root, therefore, I didn't have to re-root), formatted the internal SD (Media Area) and went through the setup again, I didn't have to activate again though. I updated all system apps, rebooted. All OK. Installed a few apps, reboot, OK. Moved what I could to the SD, and reboot, all OK. Installed about 20 other apps and reboot, all still OK. Moved what I could to SD, and reboot. 1 app uninstalled itself. Completely removed from applications and reboot. All ok, no further apps uninstalled. Installed about 20 more apps, reboot and all is ok, moved over what I could to media area (internal SD) and reboot. 2 apps were uninstalled, both moved to media area and neither one part of the original 32. Uninstalled both from the applications setting and rebooted. 4 more apps uninstalled, none part of the original 32.
I'm at a loss here...
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Moving apps to the "media area" is a kludge at best and I avoid it. Every once in a while I check settings->applications to see if any apps snuck their way there, and I move all of them back to internal.
So I wiped the phone again, repeated the whole 1-click file thingy as last time, seems to be going rather smooth this time around. While poking around, I noticed a built-in (and probably bloatware) application not installed. I tried to google it to see what it does, but nothing is really all that clear. The package is called 'com.verizon.permissions.appdirectedsms' and I found it missing through TiBu. However, SMS works just fine.
Anyone able to advise what the package does, or did? I haven't updated to 906 yet, so perhaps it's something new with that and that's why it's missing? Guess I should update first shouldn't I? Ok, I will. I'll update when it's done.
Many, many thanks to all of you!
what do you mean not installed, if its in the system apps folder its installed
not all system apks show up in apps drawer
and titanium may have a different name for it
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