Can someone explain how to do a stock carrier rom backup so it can be later (or if something goes wrong during installation of custom rom) restored via odin.
how to do that and which odin version should i use.
Thanks in advance,
Regards
Ummm...U can't make backups with Odin u can do it with CWM but not on stock....
So no backup but u can flash stock rom via Odin when you are done...
ANDROIDCUSTOMIZe said:
Ummm...U can't make backups with Odin u can do it with CWM but not on stock....
So no backup but u can flash stock rom via Odin when you are done...
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yea i know but i have locked phone and my provider gave me with something like "their custom rom" which is still stock but locked. so if something goes wrong with flashing sutom roms with network i want to have solution for coming back. that's the problem
ANDROIDCUSTOMIZe said:
Ummm...U can't make backups with Odin u can do it with CWM but not on stock....
So no backup but u can flash stock rom via Odin when you are done...
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We can backup stock rom with CWM...-_-
AnnoyingZlatan said:
yea i know but i have locked phone and my provider gave me with something like "their custom rom" which is still stock but locked. so if something goes wrong with flashing sutom roms with network i want to have solution for coming back. that's the problem
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Rooted+CWM installed in your phone?
Use cwm recovery to backup your stock rom.
Root your phone, instalar cwm and do a backup.
To restore it you need first to convert the file System to rfs, and then restore the backup through cwm. This is because custom roms use ext4 file system and if you don't convert it, cwm won't restore your backup.
dxppxd said:
Use cwm recovery to backup your stock rom.
Root your phone, instalar cwm and do a backup.
To restore it you need first to convert the file System to rfs, and then restore the backup through cwm. This is because custom roms use ext4 file system and if you don't convert it, cwm won't restore your backup.
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i know that, but how to do that "convertion" (manually or there's program) from ext4 to rfs after backup in cwm where to find backup file, please explain
To convert system to rfs you must flash a full package firmware via odin
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AnnoyingZlatan said:
i know that, but how to do that "convertion" (manually or there's program) from ext4 to rfs after backup in cwm where to find backup file, please explain
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I use cf-root ext4 Manager app, easy. There is also a way with adb commands, I don't have the link right now. Google is your best friend (and big brother)
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I use cf-root ext4 Manager app, easy. There is also a way with adb commands, I don't have the link right now. Google is your best friend (and big brother)
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O, please give me link for that app. does that go like this:
install apk as any other
convert
do i have to have some special kernels or i can install it on custom rom
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158197 this is the link from ketut. do i have to flash whole cf root kernel or i can just install the app on my custom rom's kernel??
AnnoyingZlatan said:
O, please give me link for that app. does that go like this:
install apk as any other
convert
do i have to have some special kernels or i can install it on custom rom
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158197 this is the link from ketut. do i have to flash whole cf root kernel or i can just install the app on my custom rom's kernel??
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Well, if you are going to use cf-root ext4 manager to restore a stock backup its probably recommended to use cf-root kernel, and you will lose the custom rom you're using, so why do you care if it's just the app or the entire kernel?
I don't know if just the app will work, but it's irrelevant. Just Flash a custom rom with cf-root applied, or Flash the cf-root kernel, convert to rfs and you're good to go. You'll restore a backup and basically wipe any custom rom you were previously using.
Otherwise, a Odin one package will revert your file system to rfs, and wipe cwm recovery (so you need to root and istall cwm afterwards and then restore backup)
1. Root your phone
2. Install CWM
3. Backup your Current ROM*
4. Install yuour Custom ROM, and if something happen
5. Flash Stock ROM with odin
6. Root your phone
7. Install CWM
8. Restore your Current ROM*
Make sure you didn't wipe anything in your SD card..
CMIIW
Backup via CMW via recovery
dxppxd said:
Well, if you are going to use cf-root ext4 manager to restore a stock backup its probably recommended to use cf-root kernel, and you will lose the custom rom you're using, so why do you care if it's just the app or the entire kernel?
I don't know if just the app will work, but it's irrelevant. Just Flash a custom rom with cf-root applied, or Flash the cf-root kernel, convert to rfs and you're good to go. You'll restore a backup and basically wipe any custom rom you were previously using.
Otherwise, a Odin one package will revert your file system to rfs, and wipe cwm recovery (so you need to root and istall cwm afterwards and then restore backup)
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So, first I have to make nandroid backup, I did that.
EDIT : Ok, I have installed cf root kernel, but now how to convert system file to rfs and do backup.. Thanks in advance
Ext4 Manager app will convert your file System to rfs, so do it before restoring backup.
The other way, Flash a Odin one package, root, install cwm and restore.
AnnoyingZlatan said:
So, first I have to make nandroid backup, I did that.
EDIT : Ok, I have installed cf root kernel, but now how to convert system file to rfs and do backup.. Thanks in advance
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3 ways to do it:
1.EXT4 Manager App
2.Flash Cf-root
3.Flash Odin full package file.
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dxppxd said:
Ext4 Manager app will convert your file System to rfs, so do it before restoring backup.
The other way, Flash a Odin one package, root, install cwm and restore.
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Thanks, so i just after converting that system file to rfs, do a restore in cwm?
Download .md5 file for stock n flash it via odin 4.38 with Cooper
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Yes, once you converted to rfs your stock backup can be restored.
Uhh... Yes you can................
PulseDroid said:
Ummm...U can't make backups with Odin u can do it with CWM but not on stock....
So no backup but u can flash stock rom via Odin when you are done...
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You can do that, just make sure you root with odin, or the z4root app
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Okay, I want to start with flashing ROMs other than my current one (KK5), but before I start, I want to check few things...
What I got:
-rooted my phone using Zerg Rush method (Dr.Ketan's tutorial), which gave me CWM Manager
-selected Create backup in CWM Manager, which rebooted my phone into recovery and made nandroid backup on my external card
-copied nandroid backup from card to a safe place on PC
-bought Mobile Odin Pro
What I want:
-to try other and newer stock roms for start
-after that some custom roms, maybe ICS leak, but nothing that involves flashing custom recovery, or using PC Odin that will increase my binary counter
What I want to know:
1) is mobile odin sufficient for flashing stock ROMs and most of the custom roms?
2) if I decide to return my phone to previous state (other than flashing stock ROM), I should only restore nandroid backup I made ?
3) what will the nandroid backup restore ? ROM, kernel, installed apps and user data, or only apps and data ?
Thanks in advance
turshija said:
Okay, I want to start with flashing ROMs other than my current one (KK5), but before I start, I want to check few things...
What I got:
-rooted my phone using Zerg Rush method (Dr.Ketan's tutorial), which gave me CWM Manager
-selected Create backup in CWM Manager, which rebooted my phone into recovery and made nandroid backup on my external card
-copied nandroid backup from card to a safe place on PC
-bought Mobile Odin Pro
What I want:
-to try other and newer stock roms for start
-after that some custom roms, maybe ICS leak, but nothing that involves flashing custom recovery, or using PC Odin that will increase my binary counter
What I want to know:
1) is mobile odin sufficient for flashing stock ROMs and most of the custom roms?
2) if I decide to return my phone to previous state (other than flashing stock ROM), I should only restore nandroid backup I made ?
3) what will the nandroid backup restore ? ROM, kernel, installed apps and user data, or only apps and data ?
Thanks in advance
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1) Mobile Odin is the only way for you to flash new stock Roms without increasing your binary counter and getting the yellow triangle, so yes.
2) yes
3) Nandroid restore will give you everything back just the way it was when the backup was made: Rom, kernel, modem, user apps, user data, everything.
isn't it that custom roms should be installed only via cwm and not mobile odin?
custom = cwm
stock = mobile odin
noob here myself
praetorius said:
isn't it that custom roms should be installed only via cwm and not mobile odin?
custom = cwm
stock = mobile odin
noob here myself
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Custom ROMs can be flashed using Mobile odin too.
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ranjan.alva said:
Custom ROMs can be flashed using Mobile odin too.
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Custom = Mobile Odin/CWM
Stock = Mobile Odin
I thought it was safe to flash stock roms with pc Odin? Is that not so?
I'm also pretty sure that the Nandroid doesn't restore modem (baseband).
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qsec said:
I thought it was safe to flash stock roms with pc Odin? Is that not so?
I'm also pretty sure that the Nandroid doesn't restore modem (baseband).
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PC odin is safe to flash stock ROM of course. But it will erase Root.
I never flashed ROMs via (mobile)odin. Only via CWM Recovery - works fine for me, no triangle (not sure about binary counter though)
two_handed said:
I never flashed ROMs via (mobile)odin. Only via CWM Recovery - works fine for me, no triangle (not sure about binary counter though)
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Your binary counter is 0 (NO) if you don't have the triangle. You're OK.
i flashed to HydraCore_v3.5 and CWM version cannot be used.The titanium backup dont show any backed up apps.When i revert back to CWM version all were in place.Do i need t download the apps again 1 by 1.
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i flashed to HydraCore_v3.5 and CWM version cannot be used.The titanium backup dont show any backed up apps.When i revert back to CWM version all were in place.Do i need t download the apps again 1 by 1.
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you want to see cwm recovery or what?and if you did backup of your apps and system files before flashing the rom then it should be there.....
shivg86 said:
you want to see cwm recovery or what?and if you did backup of your apps and system files before flashing the rom then it should be there.....
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i didnt flash the rom,still using the cyanogenmod nightly cm9.I just replaced the kernel." This version of cwm manager should be used with cf-root v5.0 or newer."
pannerch said:
i didnt flash the rom,still using the cyanogenmod nightly cm9.I just replaced the kernel." This version of cwm manager should be used with cf-root v5.0 or newer."
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Its not the cwm recovery, this message is for the cwm manager installed as app, it comes with cf root kernels. You can still use it but not fully functional. And you still have cwmr flashed by hydracore. Go to recovery mode manually or use this cwm manager to boot in recovery to confirm.
And did you earlier flash cf root kernel on CM rom?
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jeetu1981 said:
Its not the cwm recovery, this message is for the cwm manager installed as app, it comes with cf root kernels. You can still use it but not fully functional. And you still have cwmr flashed by hydracore. Go to recovery mode manually or use this cwm manager to boot in recovery to confirm.
And did you earlier flash cf root kernel on CM rom?
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yes,i flash cf root kernel on CM rom.
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pannerch said:
yes,i flash cf root kernel on CM rom.
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As far as i know cf root kernels are for tw roms only. Now since you are on hydracore then you should have cwm recovery installed with it, did you check it? Just ignore cwm manager or remove it using titanium.
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Rescan the backup folder of your titan backup
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If one flash CF root kernel and later update to hydracore, kernel will replace but CWM remains still. Just delete it with titanium/Syst app remover or same other.
hey all
my note is on ics 4.0.4 stock rom and notecore v14.1 kernel
i did a backup with cwm recovery and it was done correctly to my sd card
the question is:
if i install any other custom kernels,will the cwm recovery version change??(i think yes, am i right?)
and will that affect the restore of the backup that i made with the another version of cwm recovery if it was changed??
thx in advance
jjojo525 said:
hey all
my note is on ics 4.0.4 stock rom and notecore v14.1 kernel
i did a backup with cwm recovery and it was done correctly to my sd card
the question is:
if i install any other custom kernels,will the cwm recovery version change??(i think yes, am i right?)
and will that affect the restore of the backup that i made with the another version of cwm recovery if it was changed??
thx in advance
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Yes, the cwm recovery version might change but it should not affect the restore of your backup.
Nope, it shouldn't. Your version of CWM won't change unless you change it. When you flash a custom ROM, it changes /system and /data to name a couple. Your recovery doesn't get touched.
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inphamous36 said:
Nope, it shouldn't. Your version of CWM won't change unless you change it. When you flash a custom ROM, it changes /system and /data to name a couple. Your recovery doesn't get touched.
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Yes, the cwm recovery version might change but it should not affect the restore of your backup.
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thx for both of u
but if i want to change my current custom kernel which is notecore v14.1 to another custom kernel such as PhilZ-cwm6 v3.72 ,should i do extra procedures or just flash it through pc/mobile odin or cwm recovery normally without any other steps??
As note 1 has the recovery built in the kernel, any change of kernel will change the recovery to what is included in the new kernel. This will not affect your backups. You can restore your old backups with new cwm. No special procedure, use mobile odin or cwm, pc odin will give you yellow triangle, increase counter.
nokiamodeln91 said:
As note 1 has the recovery built in the kernel, any change of kernel will change the recovery to what is included in the new kernel. This will not affect your backups. You can restore your old backups with new cwm. No special procedure, use mobile odin or cwm, pc odin will give you yellow triangle, increase counter.
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That's unique, I've owned a couple Samsung devices and none of them ever had the recover built into the kernel. that doesn't make sense, but I guess it works.
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thx for any reply
but my power on sound does not work(play) with boot animation when the device is booting
so i tried to place sgs3 power on sound instead of the stock power on file but also it is not working and the device is booting in absolute silence
what should i do??
should i change permisiions or what?
any help is apreciated and thx in advance
my galaxy note is in ics stock rom 4.0.4and philz kernel
i backed up the system with cwm recovery successfully
but when i wanted to restore my backup there is a problem that the cwm recovery says
failed to unmount system
error while formatting /system !
what should be the solution for that problem
Try to change the kernel to speedmod and check. Install via mobile odin or recovery
nokiamodeln91 said:
Try to change the kernel to speedmod and check. Install via mobile odin or recovery
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is there any other way other than flashing another kernel coz i love philz kernel ??
try that and check. you can always revert back to philz anytime
nokiamodeln91 said:
try that and check. you can always revert back to philz anytime
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as nokiamodeln91 said, u can flash philz anytime...
jjojo525 said:
my galaxy note is in ics stock rom 4.0.4and philz kernel
i backed up the system with cwm recovery successfully
but when i wanted to restore my backup there is a problem that the cwm recovery says
failed to unmount system
error while formatting /system !
what should be the solution for that problem
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Down load the Rom customizer free from the playstore and try to restore the backup from there.
Hi everyone!
Maybe I have a basic doubt, but because I don´t understand, I like have clear this. Yesterday I decided root, replace the recovery and install a custom rom on my Note (N7000). I choose the kernel from PhilZ and install following the recommended method (very easy).
After this all work perfect, I do a full backup of actual system (this is nandroid backup, right?) and after this I install the CM 10.1.3 that also work well. I not rememeber exactly, but following some steps to install this ROM I do before or after install this procedures also: WIPE/DATA FACTORY RESET, WIPE CACHE, WIPE DALVIK CACHE. This procedures are correct?
The device work well, but I have a big doubt because if I boot into recovery I not see anymore the PhilZ touch interface, now I see:
CWM Based Recovery 6.0.3.6
that is other recovery, right? Is normal this behavior? I not understand in what step I change the PhilZ recovery to CWM.
Thanks in advance for all info and help to clear this
This is the CWM recovery same as philz, the difference is that, the version you used before.. It was touch, and after flashing the recovery changes as the CM 10.1 flashed their own kernel...
so it is the same recovery, do not worry
and yes, AOSP/CM roms have their specific kernels, so please do not flash philz on the current recovery...
and one more thing... the process is correct, do a wipe data and factory reset and then format system and preload
Thanks NoteboyTech, yes, I know that work basically like PhilZ, but my main doubt is in what moment of all procedures are installed the CWM Based Recovery. This mean that this CWM are installed in the moment that I install the CM 10.1.3?
Now if I like keep the PhilZ, is safe if I boot again in recovery and install from the .zip file from PhilZ again? or not recommend this?
The wipe: I need made the wipe factory, cache and dalvik before each time that I like restore a ROM or also kernel?
Thanks!!!
You are using a cm rom. Philz kernel Tw doesn't work with cm rom. If you flash philz on cm, phone won't boot.
There is no need to wipe if you just changing the kernel.
If you want the touch recovery, you can install nx kernel which includes philz recovery and is a cm based kernel.
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Thanks NoteboyTech, yes, I know that work basically like PhilZ, but my main doubt is in what moment of all procedures are installed the CWM Based Recovery. This mean that this CWM are installed in the moment that I install the CM 10.1.3?
Now if I like keep the PhilZ, is safe if I boot again in recovery and install from the .zip file from PhilZ again? or not recommend this?
The wipe: I need made the wipe factory, cache and dalvik before each time that I like restore a ROM or also kernel?
Thanks!!!
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Read my post again, I edited it!!!
Thanks to all!
Now I believe that understand a bit more
Perfect. This mean that if I like keep the PhilZ as recovery I need install the nx kernel, right?
Now, if for example in the future I like try one new version or actual version of my stock ROM, is safe to download from Samsung Updates website, install from .zip like I do with the CM, and ready, I have the stock ROM. Is correct?
OK, I not need wipe anything for kernel installations, but yes for ROMs, right?
Only data/factory and cache or also dalvik?
This wipes I need made before install the ROM or after?
Thanks for all!
Stock rom has be be installed using odin not like the cm
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Stock rom has be be installed using odin not like the cm
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Thanks!, ah, right, because stock rom´s should be installed using download mode instead recovery mode, right?
And the last: all the native apps from Samsung like SPen, etc, that go with the stock rom, I can download from any place or installed now into the CM 10.1 or future versions of CM? Thanks!
DroidAR said:
And the last: all the native apps from Samsung like SPen, etc, that go with the stock rom, I can download from any place or installed now into the CM 10.1 or future versions of CM? Thanks!
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Sorry bro, CM roms cannot do TW features like SNOTE, SPEN, and all.. so with CM you loose all samsung goodies..
NoteboyTech said:
Sorry bro, CM roms cannot do TW features like SNOTE, SPEN, and all.. so with CM you loose all samsung goodies..
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Ups! :S Small detail Thanks!
One more that I detect: when I boot into recovery (CWM-based Recovery v6.0.3.6) I see that the last and bottom line on main screen say this message bellow. Its important this? Thanks!
Code:
Warning: No file_contexts
Nothing wrong with it. Comes on new Cwm recovery.
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Today I try make a complete nandroid backup, but can be possible that the CWM Based Recovery 6.0.3.6 don´t have this option?
Some days back, with the PhilZ recovery, I can do very easy.
To restore a nandroid backup I need use the same recovery or the generated files are compatible with all recovery?
????
CWM 6 versions are compatible.. it can be restored using any recovery.
Why can you make a nandroid back on 6.0.3.6?
Main Menu> Backup & Restore> Backup to Internal or External SD
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Thanks nokiamodeln91!, maybe yesterday when I try Im a bit sleepy at night Also in this moment I found a "nandroid" name into the menu.
Have a link to read how backup the IMEI number?
Can be possible that I detect that after I made all these changes (change the recovery, root, install new rom, etc) the Serial number of the device has changed? I can change from any area to the original one?
Option to backup efs is in the philz recovery. Or you can use ktool from the playstore to backup efs. This has to be done as soon as you root. There is no point of backup if the imei has already changed.
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Option to backup efs is in the philz recovery. Or you can use ktool from the playstore to backup efs. This has to be done as soon as you root.
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OK, as already tell me I can´t install the PhilZ recovery on CM 10.2, this mean that my only option is install the ktool and backup EFS (this backup the IMEI), right?
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There is no point of backup if the imei has already changed.
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No, the IMEI is correct, the change is in the SERIAL NUMBER of the device, not IMEI. This can be fixed writing the correct serial number?
Not sure how to correct the serial number.
Ktool is a good tool to backup efs.
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