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Quick question guys thinking of geting a bionic from a friend but I have a few questions first
1. I see there is and awesome noob root and custom rom guide however how easy is it to go back completely to stock for warranty reasons with my charge I could just use a cwm install to get back to stock is it that easy for the bionic or is more required?
2. Does the bionic have a working ics port yet?
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1. Is not as simple as the charge, but yes. there are guides on how to go back to stock from a custom ROM. Follow them to a T and you shoud be good.
2. Theres a few ics roms, axiom, gummy, etc. just look in the development section or on rootzwiki. You're going to have to install a safestrap or cwm bootstrap in order to use them though.
Don't
Sorry to be blunt, but don't get a Bionic. Sadly, this phone has become a leper in Motorola's lineup. It seems like they shifted so much attention to the Razr/Maxx so fast that this one has been left behind. I wouldn't expect the official ICS build on the Bionic until way later than the Razr, if at all.
Aside from the apparent lack of love from Motorola, there's some goofiness on the Bionic with images not containing radio versions and such that cause some extra hoops to jump through if you got off the beaten upgrade path when messing around with it.
The screen on the Bionic isn't that good either in my opinion. Unless you're getting one for dirt cheap, don't.
Obviously, others may have a different opinion.
really how many people are going to post this every week just freaking search dude!! or try it out for a week or so and if you don't like it return it!!!
Dont get a bionic unless you find one for free...I'd def get Galaxy Nexus or RAZR.
I agree with Averix, do not get a Bionic even for free!
If you can find one around $200 I would. I had one, it's an excellent phone. never lagged, speedy, etc. personally I'd rather have a Bionic than a Nexus, with HDMI, a microS card slot, & much much better build quality. The phone's have identified specs (dual core lmao, 1GB ram, FCC, etc) besides the above. ICS will come, it's not even needed to make this phone great, as there aren't any problems with GB, and there are still several excellent ROMs a soluble if flashing is your thing. People just need to be more patient.
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I liked my Bionic now that I've rooted it. I'm not a fan of the stock OS. Currently I'm on Eclipse 2.2 because I had problems with Gummy.
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Bionic with ICS here - I like it, but I think it's time to switch it up. If you're used to constant flashing...don't look for it here =/
Personally I have 2 bionics and find them to be very stable, good (not great) screen rez and can be purchased on eBay for a decent price (I got both of mine for around $180). RAZR's and GNEX are going to run a lot more, though I admit they are both superior devices. For me I simply wanted a dual core w/ very good LTE performance (Hotspot at home) and I get around 15-20Mbps-down, 12-16Mbps-up at home and on the road. ICS would be a plus but I would rather wait 4-5 months when VZW ships an update. I decided NOT to use my upgrade yet, I would rather wait for the next gen of phones w/ Tegra 3 or Exynos Quad processors and hang with the Bionic for the time being.
But if you want to be on a devices with regular ROM updates, yeah the ship has sailed on the Bionic.
DO NOT GET THE BIONIC. though i am still using it and toughing it out for the moment. Moto really screwed all Bionic users in 2 ways:
1. the phone in stock OS is terrible. it is slow, laggy, atrocious battery life (even with extended battery) and has many bugs that updates have not fixed.
2. Moto delayed its release for so long that they rolled out the RAZR (which has much better hardware and runs much smoother) a month after the bionic effectively stabbing all Bionic users in the back by killing further development of the bionic. A lot of developers have jumped ship from the Bionic to new phones. It looks like the RAZR will be getting ICS before the Bionic showing that Moto doesn't have much loyalty to the Bionic.
If you're gonna get a new phone, get a RAZR MAXX
Agree eclipse 2.2 on bionic is awesome excellent battery life ;-)
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If you can get a bionic for a price you like. Great phone. Not the most development for it, but its still better than most androids in users hands right now. If you like flashing a lot, go with HTC or the nexus. I've been.seeing people sell their nexus for cheap on Craigslist lately. I wouldn't get a nexus though. No HDMI and screwey 3 on screen button is a deal breaker for me. Android been using 4 buttons for so long, I see no reason to change that's up.
The majority of the complaints about the bionic can be found with any android. At this point, a lot of it is nitpicking.
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Came from the Droid X and found a gently used bionic with an extended battery and door and the stock battery and door with the lapdock for 200 bucks. In less than an hour had it rooted and gave Gummy ICS, liberty 3.2 (radio didt work. I'm on 902.) and settled on eclipse 2.2. It's a major improvement over the X. And I still have something to look forward to when ICS matures or even Jelly Bean is released.
I'm happy
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I just recently upgraded to bionic from an incredible 2 and love it. Plus I couldn't beat the deal Verizon gave me. Traded in the incredible, got the bionic, extended battery, shell and holster, screen protectors, headphones and a car charger and only spent four dollars.
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Bionic has some pros over Razr
I actually decided on the Bionic over the Razr/Razr Maxx for a few reasons:
1. Bionic fits very securely into the Bionic Lapdock. I can sit in bed, on train, plane, etc., with the Bionic in the Bionic Lapdock and it stays in securely. I much prefer this over the Razr and the Lapdock 100/500 which is a universal Lapdock that very loosely hold the Razr. I found unless you are sitting at a table with these Lapdocks and Razr, than it is going to be cumbersome to use with the Lapdock. Also, easier to just drop Bionic straight into Bionic Lapdock than having to fiddle with cable of Lapdock 100/500.
2. Bionic Lapdock's build is much better. Bionic Lapdock is aluminum and feels more sturdy than plastic of Lapdock 100/500 used with the Razr.
- theses reason were more specific to use with Lapdock obviuosly, which for me was a deciding factor. however, Bionic has another pro I feel is overlooked, and that is its removable battery...
3. Bionic has removable batteries. Though everyone goes on about battery life of Razr Maxx, it is still not removable. Granted, it last a long time, but when it runs out, then what? Unless u got charger with you, you are out of luck. With Bionic I can easily carry a couple of extra batteries with my Lapdock to keep me going as long as i need. And I do not have to be tied down to a charger cable and outlet if Razr Maxx runs out of juice. I am often on Bionic with Lapdock in coffee shops, web browsing on LTE, streaming Pandora, editing files, the whole works. Even the Razr Maxx cannot keep up with me. And I never get a seat by a power outlet. With Bionic, I carry a extra battery and extra battery wall charger and usually have this extra battery charging on wall while i work across the room. When one battery runs out, i simply walk over, switch out batteries, and while I'm using up the new one, I still got one charging and I do not need to be tied to a cable. Works great. Razr Maxx cant do that and LTE is a killer.
Raxr Maxx = 3300mah
Bionic Batt = 1760mah....get 2 of them and swap one out while another is charging with a extra battery wall charger and you got = unlimited battery life = unlimited mah!!...for cheap!!
The extra bulk, updates of Bionic, dont compare to this nearly inexhaustible battery life with removable batteries that everyone seems to overlook with Razr Maxx. Plus I got my Bionic, extra batteries, extra battery wall chargers and other accesories for less than what Razr Maxx costs. Bionic all the way for me! Now just give me ICS with Webtop 3.0 tablet mode and I do not see a phone in sight for the price that has this many features.
Well if anyone wants a Bionic with a silicone case, extended battery, and charger let me know
Time for me to move on
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ROB281 said:
Well if anyone wants a Bionic with a silicone case, extended battery, and charger let me know
Time for me to move on
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Are you looking to get cash for it or donate it so I have a plaything to program on and not risk bricking my actual phone =)
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Are you looking to get cash for it or donate it so I have a plaything to program on and not risk bricking my actual phone =)
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would like to get cash to help buy the replacement phone
Just got my Bionic at Best Buy for Free.
Nice phone.
Better than the Pantech Breakout I returned for it.
Leaving my Thunderbolt and have access to either a Razr or Bionic. Which should I activate???
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Leaving my Thunderbolt and have access to either a Razr or Bionic. Which should I activate???
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They're both practically the same phones except the Razr is thinner and has ICS. So I'd go with the Razr
Bionic has ICS too just not OTA. The leaked builds for the Bionic is a higher version number then the ICS version on the Razr. Not sure if that is of importance. Correct me if I'm wrong. The Razr's screen is a higher resolution then the Bionic though (1280x720). Both good either way. Let us know what you chose
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Bionic has ICS too just not OTA. The leaked builds for the Bionic is a higher version number then the ICS version on the Razr. Not sure if that is of importance. Correct me if I'm wrong. The Razr's screen is a higher resolution then the Bionic though (1280x720). Both good either way. Let us know what you chose
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The Droid Razr has the same basic screen as the Bionic (540x960 for both), and mostly the same hardware. With the impending ICS leak, I would suggest the Bionic, mainly because you can get an extended battery for it, which is much better than the stock battery or the non-removable of the Razr. If it's the Razr Maxx however, it's got the bigger battery, so I'd go for that.
Go Bionic:
Replaceable batteries!
I have both and still love my Bionic...swapping batteries just feels right, ya know....Amazon has stock Bionic batteries for between 3 and five bucks!
But to each their own...Bionic, that is!
Be strong and very Koragus, my ninja...
Get the Razr. Moto hates the bionic now
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The Droid Razr has the same basic screen as the Bionic (540x960 for both), and mostly the same hardware.
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I would have lost my left arm... I could of sworn the Razr had higher resolution. Linuxgator is correct that the resolution is the same. The Razr does have a super AMOLED display while the Bionic's is a TFT so the Razer still has the edge.
I traded my Bionic for a RAZR. Bionic was a good phone, but once you hold them both in your hands you'll want to make the switch.
My two closest friends have a RAZR and a Maxx. I don't think you can go wrong between the RAZR and Bionic, but I definitely benefit from the extended battery I have in my Bionic.
But the difference between ICS and GB is night and day, so if you're not willing to put a leak on there, the RAZR may be better for you (though ICS is seemingly impending for the Bionic).
I've read many complaints from Razr owners not being able to watch online videos once they got their ICS update, and some of the people are pretty mad since one day they could and then the next they couldn't.
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I've read many complaints from Razr owners not being able to watch online videos once they got their ICS update, and some of the people are pretty mad since one day they could and then the next they couldn't.
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I think thats a Adobe Flash issue and all Android users will have issues with that on ICS. works for some, doesn't for others. Adobe will not support it past 4.0.x which means it will NOT be made available on JB. That puts Androids back in the same unfortunate feature lacking category as the iPhone.
Those same exact issues are on the Bionic with ICS. All you need to do is sideload Flash (there's a link in the RAZR forums) and it will work perfectly. All flash video works fine on my RAZR.
Considering not everyone can sideload flash on the ics leak for the bionic and have it work, I'd be willing to bet that not every razr will be able to sideload it and have it work also.
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Try it like in this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1855735 - uninstall clear data for Flash and clear your cache, uninstall whatever version you have, then add the version posted. It will work.
I am completely pleased with my Bionic and the high price I paid for it when it was released. HAHA however if you sought out this forum, I have a feeling you should go with the newer, slightly better supported phone. The razr will get JB first. The AMOLED screen is super nice, and the non-removable battery is considered not as nice. I would def rec the MAXX, but still my vote is RAZR.
Best of all, you will be pleased no matter what you pic. Both good phones
Hey guys,
Having a Defy for 2 years now, gives me the opportunity to get a new phone. Not wanting a Iphone or sgs3, simply because they are TO mainstream (no hipster) and the sgs is ugly as fck. The razr i cought my eye. Not only because of its look but alsofl because of its hardware. Only I had a problem with my defy, I am affraid of to have with this device too. Motorola makes awefull roms and kernels. I saw how on stock rom the razr i got owned Buys the sgs3 simply because of the rom. The performance made by Samsung is mostly because of the rom. But the moto users are do damn lucky with the community. I remeber Quarx giving the defy an icredible boost. So I was wondering: is it worth it to buy a razr i or razr hd? And will we get eventualy good working roms that will peform as good as the sgs3? And which phone is better: the razr i or razr hd (i prefere Intel dat_fanboy)? Thanks in advance
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I'm also interested in the responses this thread might get. I'm currently a Defy owner, and I'm also looking forwards the Razr i as my next phone (The battery duration and Intel's chip got to me, and here in Argentina, the phone is currently on presale). I'm wondering what led to the current owners to purchase the I instead of the m or hd, and if their expectations were fulfilled so far.
I don't have the choice of the M here but I chose to buy this device instead of waiting for the HD because I loved the georgous edge-to-edge screen and the design overall and because I'm a Motorola fanboy. But the phone even lifted my expectations: I got superb battery life, great performance and yes the screen really is a beauty.
Definetly worth the buy, you won't be disappointed at all!
Planning to get either phone. Also considering Galaxy S4 + HTC One. Time is not of essence, good phone is. I want performance, megapixels (Camera) and long battery life. Right now edge is Droid MAXX. Interestingly I don't see a forum for the new Droid MAXX/Ultra on VZW which is already released. Also the phone MUST be globally capable as I travel and like to use AT&T/T-mobile SIM's from time to time.
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Planning to get either phone. Also considering Galaxy S4 + HTC One. Time is not of essence, good phone is. I want performance, megapixels (Camera) and long battery life. Right now edge is Droid MAXX. Interestingly I don't see a forum for the new Droid MAXX/Ultra on VZW which is already released. Also the phone MUST be globally capable as I travel and like to use AT&T/T-mobile SIM's from time to time.
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I'm in the same boat. Really want the battery life of the maxx and wireless charging ability. In fact really for me the only downfall of the maxx is the capacitive buttons. I really like the soft on screen buttons. Don't know if that will bug the heck out of me or not. I think I will at least play with both and make my final decision.
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If you want Development, there is going to be a lot more people getting the Moto X since it's on all of the major US carriers. Just be sure to get a Developer Edition
Add me to the list of the undecided. I still have the Galaxy S4 on my short list. Im leaning towards the Maxx for the aforementioned reasons.
The development issue has me balking at the Maxx though. That and some of the issues reported with last years Droid Razr Maxx HD. I know this SOC is different, but some of the sluggishness reported on the Razr Maxx after using them for a while has be wondering if i shouldnt wait a month or so.
Was an early adopter of the Droid X and its been my only phone for over 3 years. Still going for now running VXLR 2.2.0, but im seriously overdue for a new phone. I tend to hang onto phones for at least 2 years or more, so i want something i can ROM when and if it starts bogging down or i just want better features.
At the bare minimum id like to get root access on the Maxx. I guess its still a little too soon to know if that will happen. Anyone have any thoughts or a best guess on whether root will be achievable on the Maxx?
I'm completely in the same boat. My renewal just came up. The X seems like a good phone, but it seems very similar to the Maxx and I would love to have the Maxx's battery life. The X/Maxx/etc have virtually the same specs. All of them have the same screen type that I dislike, I prefer the soft buttons so Maxx/Ultra are one down for that, no sd card (minor as I have a nexus right now), non-removable battery (minor but annoying).
I do love the HTC one, similar issues, I like the screen better & love the speakers in the front, because well its nice they are directed AT me, but the camera is weak and HTC hasn't been know for its quality in the last several phones it released.
The S4 is a possibility, my co-worker has it and loves it. The note 3 is coming out soon but that phone is massive! lol
What to do, what to do. If I had any choice I would really love another nexus, but alas that ship has long sailed and is most likely never coming back.
The two major differences comes down to screen size and battery life. Maxx has a slightly larger screen size and double the quoted battery life for mixed use. Personally, screen sizes are getting out of control so MotoX is an easy pick.
From what i read and experienced
Battery life:
MAXX > S4 > Moto X > One
Design:
One > Moto X > S4/MAXX
Screen:
One/S4 > Moto X > MAXX
Storage:
S4 > One > MAXX > Moto X
Camera:
S4 > One > MAXX/Moto X
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From what i read and experienced
Battery life:
MAXX > S4 > Moto X > One
Design:
One > Moto X > S4/MAXX
Screen:
One/S4 > Moto X > MAXX
Storage:
S4 > One > MAXX > Moto X
Camera:
S4 > One > MAXX/Moto X
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I disagree with the battery life that S4 is better than MotoX. Yes, the S4 has a 400mAh larger battery, but that is offset by the larger screen and higher resolution that requires more juice. The MotoX mainly comes short in 3G talk time. But let's face it, most people don't really spend a lot of time talking on their phones. We mainly use it for non-talk stuff (email, texting, music, video, etc), which is where the MotoX excels. Life all battery life tests, none of them matter because it depends on actual user.
Also the HTC One and MotoX should be tied for design as they both worthy for different reasons. Aluminum body on the HTC One is pretty sleek, while the motomaker and build quality on the MotoX makes plastic look expensive.
True. If it's not the MAXX, battery life is all pretty much the same. As for the the design, i agree with you, but i also took into consideration the speaker design, I.E. the front facing goodness
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No regrets with getting the maxx as long as signal with Verizon is good enough for me indoors where it matters (work) in happy with the switch. Went from 49% to 25% first day initial charge with 2hrs screen on time.
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Apparently the OS takes up 6.5GB. I'm going to go with the Maxx, I want more than 9.5GB for all my stuff on stock. But God, I hope this thing gets unlocked
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Was waiting for the X this hole time. I went and took a look at the MAXX yesterday and went ahead and picked it up. Awesome device!!!!
Feels really solid. Great battery. External speaker is kick butt for a small speaker. Like the 5" screen.
Why is there not a Droid Maxx forum yet?
Someone else recently brought this up - why isn't there a Verizon Droid Maxx Forum yet? I see today they put a Verizon HTC One forum in, and that's not even out yet?!
I'm planning on going with the Maxx for battery life. If this had soft keys I'd be 150% sure, but right now am about 90%.
Yeah it's a little odd there is no section yet... Unless they are tying it in this one because the four phones are practically the same but that would be weird and you'd think they would state that.
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On Maxx now. Battery is amazing. Love the design and weight. Screen is great. Moto X almost had me sold the "design it yourself aspect", but wasn't enough for me.
Hope this gets enough love for root. But loving it so far.
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I got a Ultra and love it. I'm using it with my ATT Sim at the moment. Every thing works too Calls, data (HSPA+) and mms..right out the gate. No messing around with apns.
If people is deciding to grab the Moto X and not pick up one of the new Droids up because of the possibility of no development because of the locked bootloader..if I remember correctly, the Verizon and ATT Moto X has locked bootloaders too. And since the new droids and the Moto X devices is so similar, I would assume that they have a similar bootloader and maybe even all locked down the same.
Maxx looked nice in store, but trying to decide if I should wait for moto X unlocked.
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I got a Ultra and love it. I'm using it with my ATT Sim at the moment. Every thing works too Calls, data (HSPA+) and mms..right out the gate. No messing around with apns.
If people is deciding to grab the Moto X and not pick up one of the new Droids up because of the possibility of no development because of the locked bootloader..if I remember correctly, the Verizon and ATT Moto X has locked bootloaders too. And since the new droids and the Moto X devices is so similar, I would assume that they have a similar bootloader and maybe even all locked down the same.
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Hmmm... I wish I could slap my work att sim in a maxx to try it.
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How do you get Verizon to sell it to you if you don't have a Verizon account? I might want to pick up a mini to try on att.
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I am surprised there is no conversation on the LG G2 coming. I am ready to part with the DNA due to battery and wanting the latest. Tempted by the Maxx but I had the earlier version and Moto is just boring. Then I get stuck flashing and ignoring my wife. :laugh: The Maxx is heavy compared to the S4 or LG by 20%. Had the S4 and took it back since I wasn't in love with all the gimmicky stuff and it was just okay. Think Sense is better. Today I just decided to wait for the LG with the larger battery and slightly larger screen. Still tempted to go toy with the Maxx since no one does battery better.
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I got a Ultra and love it. I'm using it with my ATT Sim at the moment. Every thing works too Calls, data (HSPA+) and mms..right out the gate. No messing around with apns.
If people is deciding to grab the Moto X and not pick up one of the new Droids up because of the possibility of no development because of the locked bootloader..if I remember correctly, the Verizon and ATT Moto X has locked bootloaders too. And since the new droids and the Moto X devices is so similar, I would assume that they have a similar bootloader and maybe even all locked down the same.
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Isnt ultra a CDMA phone? How would it work with AT&T?
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I have the razor maxx hd (xt926) and thought that kitkat was going to be released by the end of the first quarter....... so far still no OTA on verizon here in Wisconsin. I have played w the X and really don't like not having the smart actions, and the app they have for that is okay..... it doesn't have the ability to add more actions...... so I guess another smart action type app would need to be found. !?!?! Thats easy i guess.....
Or, do I root the Maxx hd and call it a day? There are a lot of nice features on the X but I was holding out to see what Lenovo and Moto come up with after the X.
Waiting on the software update is starting to really upset me when I can't get an answer to when the update is gonna be available. So to sum it all up..... what wold you all do??? Keep the maxx or order a X????
Please and thank you.
If you're gonna buy the X....then sell it in a few months for the x2 or whatever....I'd wait.
If the x meets your needs for the next while, get it. Its better than what you have now.
Basically its your needs that matter. No one here can decide for you.
Read up.....and decide. ?
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I had the Maxx HD with an unlocked bootloader, a couple months ago I got the X and gave the Maxx HD to my wonderful mother. To me, the difference isn't that huge, and I do miss the battery life I got with the Maxx HD. Having said that, the Moto X is a great phone, honestly I don't think you can lose no matter what you decide. Good luck!
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I'm kind of disappointed in moto for promising kitkat to a few of the older droids and not delivering quickly like they did 4.4 on the Moto X. Just saying, if I had an hd or m I'd be more than a little irked.
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I'm kind of disappointed in moto for promising kitkat to a few of the older droids and not delivering quickly like they did 4.4 on the Moto X. Just saying, if I had an hd or m I'd be more than a little irked.
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Us on at&t were waiting for the 4.4.2 update and were the last to get it...
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I also had the Razr Maxx HD. The only reason I upgraded was because I wanted to try the phone out for a couple days. I got it for free through Best Buy since another line on my plan had an upgrade available. I do like the phone and I kept it. I gave my rooted/unlocked Razr Maxx HD to a friend of mine, but I don't think he's activated it yet.
As one of the other posters said, I miss the extra battery life of the Maxx HD...but these days I'm usually ALWAYS around a charger. The few times out of the year that I go camping I can bring an external battery to give the phone a charge. Rooting it was also much more of a process for me than the Maxx HD since you can't unlock the bootloader. Also, I never did use the HDMI port on my Maxx, so losing that didn't bother me. My SD card that I had only contained my titanium backups and other things like photos. Now I auto-upload my photos/videos to Dropbox so the limited 16Gb of space hasn't affected me yet. I actually almost enjoy it since it keeps me from keeping un-used applications on the phone.
The biggest advantage I noticed is that when I was switching between apps a lot, the Maxx kind of started slowing down (probably due to only 1Gb of RAM). I haven't noticed this yet with the Moto X since it has double the memory. For me it was a no brainer to try it out since it was free, and didn't take my line's upgrade away. In less than a year I'll be able to upgrade again if I wish. I love the fact that the screen size is the same as the Maxx and yet the phone still feels super small! I don't need a 5+ inch screen on my phone.
The Maxx HD is definitely a tank. I didn't put a case on it and it held up fine through drops, however I did decide to put a Speck case on my Moto X. It's so light it feels like it would break easier. If I were you, I would probably stay with the Maxx HD and see how the 4.4 update is (when it finally comes). I'm guessing sometime in May/June. The Maxx is a great phone and if my friend didn't need mine (he broke his Razr HD) I would have definitely kept it for a backup phone.