Really funny that the internal storage of the Note is called SDCard.
It´s definitly not an SDCard, it´s a chip. The only SDCard in a phone is always an external. Is there any possibility to change this stupid name (whatever you want:
harddisc, storage or just a letter like C:, everybody would understand)?
Thanks in advance
Are you on CM9-based ROM or Stock? Is this issue on both.
sam.wilder said:
Are you on CM9-based ROM or Stock? Is this issue on both.
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You might be able to change the name by editing the file ect/vold.fstab in the system folder. You should read the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454753
I´m using ICS TheMidTeam 1.61 with Kernel LQ3.
Thanks for the tip changing the two storages. I´ve read it already.
My question was only if it´s possible to change the stupid name of the internal storage ´cause my GS Note (and I think all Note users all over the world)
has an internal storage. The SDcard is always external. Just SDcard or external would be enough, double name is not necessary.
No other producer for example Motorola or HTC is using such a stupid name.
That´s why i´m asking if it´s possible only to change the name of the internal
storage.
Perhaps somebody has an idea.
Thanks in advance.
This is the standard for all Android devices the first storage that is mountable is always mounted to sdcard so that apps that require space to save files to can be sure there is somewhere to save it to.
Trust me its a very good reason to have it this way. Its been like this from the start as devices did used to only have external sdcards so to save every app dev changing there app it was just kept as the sdcard mount point
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Does anyone have the mount points of the internal memory and external SD swapped ?
When I installed the aokp from external SD this happened. With paranoid android I took care of install from the internal memory.
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Does anyone have the mount points of the internal memory and external SD swapped ?
When I installed the aokp from external SD this happened. With paranoid android I took care of install from the internal memory.
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The followings give the internal memory to be the sd card and the external sd card to be mnt/emmc
# internal sdcard
dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard 11 /devices/platform/dw_mmc/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0 encryptable_nonremovable
# external sdcard
dev_mount emmc /mnt/emmc auto /devices/platform/s3c-sdhci.2/mmc_host/mmc1
The followings give the external sd card to be the sd card and the internal memory to be mnt/emmc
# internal sdcard
dev_mount emmc /mnt/emmc 11 /devices/platform/dw_mmc/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0 nonremovable,encryptable
# external sdcard
dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard auto /devices/platform/s3c-sdhci.2/mmc_host/mmc1
Remember this is only for ro ms like liquid, paranoid, or cm9. For other ICS or GB rom the mount points will be different.
I'm curious how do I mount the sdcard as external_sd by some configuration. Now i'm using ics sd binder.
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I'm curious how do I mount the sdcard as external_sd by some configuration. Now i'm using ics sd binder.
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You should read the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1454753
This thread also provide the appropriate vold.fstab file for ICS rom if you want to mount the external sd card as the internal sd card. I use the file for both Rocket Rom and Kingdroid rom without problem.
It must have something more
Because in the file vold.fstab the internal memory is as /mnt/emmc and the external is as /mnt/sdcard. But they have the mount ponta swapped.:what:
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# internal sdcard
dev_mount emmc /mnt/emmc 11 /devices/platform/dw_mmc/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0 nonremovable,encryptable
# external sdcard
dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard auto /devices/platform/s3c-sdhci.2/mmc_host/mmc1
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Sorry, it's mount points.
I reinstalled the ics sd binder. And maybe it's only swapped descriptions. Can someone confirm this?
Sd card is also a chip. It's just that the other is internal and the other is external.
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I think what zacthespack said is the half of the truth.
My Motorola Milestone with Gingerbread is showing with root explorer the internal storage. There is one folder named "SDcard" and what´s behind: exactly how it should be: the EXTERNAL storage.
A SDcard is by definition a movable chip with a little bit of plastic around.
The internal storage never can be a SDcard because you cannot remove it of the device without damaging ist.
Since nearly 30 years I´m working with a PC. It´s soooooo!!! simple: in C:\ you find the system. If you have well programmed software you have the choice to install it where you want (d:\ for example), bad programmed software goes directly to C:\programs\???. Well done software offers you usually the possibility to put your data whereever you want.
Android stores the apps on the internal storage. With App2SD you can move them to the reel SDcard (external storage), with ICS they are moved to the root directory of the internal storage. Perhaps App2SD moves the apps there because of the stupid name SDcard for the internal storage.
Well done apps like Office Suite Pro giving you the choice to put your data wherever you want.-
I don´t want to change internal to externel (maybe also a matter of speed).
I ONLY want to change the WRONG name SDcard for internal storage to one which makes sense.
Sometimes I think there are engeneers tryin´to invent the wheel again by changing the round form to a triangle.
Poly0709 said:
I´m using ICS TheMidTeam 1.61 with Kernel LQ3.
Thanks for the tip changing the two storages. I´ve read it already.
My question was only if it´s possible to change the stupid name of the internal storage ´cause my GS Note (and I think all Note users all over the world)
has an internal storage. The SDcard is always external. Just SDcard or external would be enough, double name is not necessary.
No other producer for example Motorola or HTC is using such a stupid name.
That´s why i´m asking if it´s possible only to change the name of the internal
storage.
Perhaps somebody has an idea.
Thanks in advance.
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HAHA. I've noticed this since the day I bought my Note. Haven't done anything about it ever since. Share your solution when you find one, okay? Thanks!
Poly0709 said:
I think what zacthespack said is the half of the truth.
My Motorola Milestone with Gingerbread is showing with root explorer the internal storage. There is one folder named "SDcard" and what´s behind: exactly how it should be: the EXTERNAL storage.
A SDcard is by definition a movable chip with a little bit of plastic around.
The internal storage never can be a SDcard because you cannot remove it of the device without damaging ist.
Since nearly 30 years I´m working with a PC. It´s soooooo!!! simple: in C:\ you find the system. If you have well programmed software you have the choice to install it where you want (d:\ for example), bad programmed software goes directly to C:\programs\???. Well done software offers you usually the possibility to put your data whereever you want.
Android stores the apps on the internal storage. With App2SD you can move them to the reel SDcard (external storage), with ICS they are moved to the root directory of the internal storage. Perhaps App2SD moves the apps there because of the stupid name SDcard for the internal storage.
Well done apps like Office Suite Pro giving you the choice to put your data wherever you want.-
I don´t want to change internal to externel (maybe also a matter of speed).
I ONLY want to change the WRONG name SDcard for internal storage to one which makes sense.
Sometimes I think there are engeneers tryin´to invent the wheel again by changing the round form to a triangle.
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Would like to point out that the milestone doesn't haven't any internal useable storage it only has the sdcard other than what's used by the system which is completely different . This is my point the first mountable storage is called sdcard to save apps the trouble of asking the user.
And as android is based from Linux it would not use the drive lettering like windows.
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Hi zacthespack,
I didn´t opened this thread for talking about the milestone which I have since 2,5 years. Also I´m not talking about its 512mb internal space, which is of course not complete usable (I have 142mb left and this space is ubable!).
I know since years that Android is based on Linux, you don´t have to tell me.
My simple question was: Is it possible to give the internal space another name?
SDcard is definitly wrong!!
If this name is a convention it will be difficult to change it.
If somebody is able to change it the internal storage should be named in future
perhaps "zacthespack".
thanks
bitFault said:
It must have something more
Because in the file vold.fstab the internal memory is as /mnt/emmc and the external is as /mnt/sdcard. But they have the mount ponta swapped.:what:
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# internal sdcard
dev_mount emmc /mnt/emmc 11 /devices/platform/dw_mmc/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0 nonremovable,encryptable
# external sdcard
dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard auto /devices/platform/s3c-sdhci.2/mmc_host/mmc1
"
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Sorry, it's mount points.
I reinstalled the ics sd binder. And maybe it's only swapped descriptions. Can someone confirm this?
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This is only for rom like liquid, cm9, or paranoid. For regular ICS rom you need to download the vold.fstab from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1454753
Poly0709 said:
Hi zacthespack,
I didn´t opened this thread for talking about the milestone which I have since 2,5 years. Also I´m not talking about its 512mb internal space, which is of course not complete usable (I have 142mb left and this space is ubable!).
I know since years that Android is based on Linux, you don´t have to tell me.
My simple question was: Is it possible to give the internal space another name?
SDcard is definitly wrong!!
If this name is a convention it will be difficult to change it.
If somebody is able to change it the internal storage should be named in future
perhaps "zacthespack".
thanks
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Its likely possible to do but I have said it will cause issues with apps if there is no sdcard mount point and as you don't need to have a external sdcard then the internel memory must be mounted to /sdcard
Is it really that big a issue? Yes really android should have changed this by now but its already far to much a issue with the fact the external SD gets mounted where ever the phone company wants it to be.
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Hi there, I know that theres a lot of posts on this forum regarding this issue but i didn't find comprehensive answer to how to move Apps to an External SD card on the G Note.
I'm not an expert with Android as I am in the transition from the iPhone, but I'm not too much of a noob as I have a bit of knowledge due to hacking and jailbreaking with the iPhone.
Now here is my problem. I have a lot of Apps that are hogging my storage and I have come to a point where I cannot install anymore Apps. When I try to copy it to the external SD card (16gb Class 10), it is actually copying it to the internal SD card. I have tried all those Apps like App2SD and I still haven't had any luck. I even tried all the tutorials on this site and still no luck.
I know there are easy methods with Froyo, but I don't want to downgrade as I am currently on "ICS(4.0.4) Stunner Beta 5.0" and it runs like a dream on the Note! If worse case scenario that I have to downgrade to achieve this, the lowest I will go back to is a factory rooted Gingerbread.
Even when I was on factory rooted Gingerbread I still had this same problem before the upgrade.
Right now the only way is to edit vold.fstab file but that will cause bigger issues with ICS and Stunner in particular
Your best hope is wait for a new version of Stunner where the internal sd card is mounted @ /mnt/emmc and the external sd card is mounted @ /mnt/sdcard and that should solve your issues completely
I read Neo talking about it and I think he will implement this structure in the next release
Thanks for the quick reply! Thats great news.. If i have to wait for a Stunner update, is there another ICS or Gingerbread release or tweak that could fix this?
mango87 said:
Thanks for the quick reply! Thats great news.. If i have to wait for a Stunner update, is there another ICS or Gingerbread release or tweak that could fix this?
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Nothing I know about for certain, sorry
matius44 said:
... the internal sd card is mounted @ /mnt/emmc and the external sd card is mounted @ /mnt/sdcard a...
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I have micromax funbook with ICS 4.0.3..in my tablet internal sd card is mounted @ /mnt/sdcard and the external sd card is mounted @ /mnt/extsd - Even I need a solution as most HD games are huge and its usable internal memory is only around 2gb.
In my friends Samsung Galaxy S external sd card was mounted as "sd card" and we were able to move installed apps to 16gb memory card need this fix.
shazmekool said:
I have micromax funbook with ICS 4.0.3..in my tablet internal sd card is mounted @ /mnt/sdcard and the external sd card is mounted @ /mnt/extsd - Even I need a solution as most HD games are huge and its usable internal memory is only around 2gb.
In my friends Samsung Galaxy S external sd card was mounted as "sd card" and we were able to move installed apps to 16gb memory card need this fix.
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Guys please read this...I tries this on my funbook and works like a charm.
http://funbook.gizmolord.com/script-change-sdcard-to-memory-card/
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shazmekool said:
I have micromax funbook with ICS 4.0.3..in my tablet internal sd card is mounted @ /mnt/sdcard and the external sd card is mounted @ /mnt/extsd - Even I need a solution as most HD games are huge and its usable internal memory is only around 2gb.
In my friends Samsung Galaxy S external sd card was mounted as "sd card" and we were able to move installed apps to 16gb memory card need this fix.
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Get this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zbGYuTGlzdGdsQXBwIl0.
GL to SD. Basically it can move all/selected gameloft games to EXTERNAL SD card
Dont forget to thank if it works!!
Any solutions?
It has been 2 years. Has anyone found a solution to transfer huge games from internal SD card to external SD card..?
asim.sidz said:
It has been 2 years. Has anyone found a solution to transfer huge games from internal SD card to external SD card..?
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Try searching re-partitioning your internal memory. It increases your current 2 GB Max internal memory to 4-6-8-10 GB by reducing your internal sd card. This way you can install many apps without having to move it here n there. thread is by @metalgearhathaway.
A problem
Actually, i modified the vold.fstab file and partially bricked my tablet. It gets stuck on the booting logo and recovery console seems to be useless because the wipe data/factory reset option doesn't work. It's an A23 based 7 inch tablet for which i'm unable to find a ROM to flash it with. Any help would be appreciated. Or is there any way to re-modify the vold.fstab file to the old state? Or to reset the ROM?
Is there any way to repartition the size of rom?
i want to combine all internal sd card space to the rom and make the external sd card as for the only one of sd card.
Can i edit the pit file to do that? and how?
thanks for your help
tommyhui said:
Is there any way to repartition the size of rom?
i want to combine all internal sd card space to the rom and make the external sd card as for the only one of sd card.
Can i edit the pit file to do that? and how?
thanks for your help
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You want to combine the internal storage and the usb storage into one storage space and the internal and external sd storage become just sd storage?
tknguyencsu said:
You want to combine the internal storage and the usb storage into one storage space and the internal and external sd storage become just sd storage?
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Yes
I would like to do this too, I know it is possible because my Motorola Xoom does this. I was surprised that the ICS update didn't reformat the internal storage to work this way.
The internal "/data" partition stores both application and "user" data and it is done by having a subfolder of the data partition mounted as the "internal sdcard" (/mnt/sdcard) by a special filesystem that strips all user permissions from the files.
That way as far as the OS is concerned all the data is on one unified partition so I could install 20G worth of apps if I liked, yet all the applications that download data or expect music to be on the sdcard have everything in the right place.
The extra sd card shows up as /mnt/external1
Mokubai said:
I would like to do this too, I know it is possible because my Motorola Xoom does this. I was surprised that the ICS update didn't reformat the internal storage to work this way.
The internal "/data" partition stores both application and "user" data and it is done by having a subfolder of the data partition mounted as the "internal sdcard" (/mnt/sdcard) by a special filesystem that strips all user permissions from the files.
That way as far as the OS is concerned all the data is on one unified partition so I could install 20G worth of apps if I liked, yet all the applications that download data or expect music to be on the sdcard have everything in the right place.
The extra sd card shows up as /mnt/external1
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I have tried to do this by editing the "vold.fstab" file in the etc folder. However I have not been successful. I can only switch between the internal and external sdcard.
Each time I failed I have to recopy the original vold.fstab file before the Note working again if I am lucky. Most of the time I have to reflash the rom again. You can get some information from the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454753
I was quickly running out of room on my phone as everything was being installed to my internal SD card (4Gb) and not to my 32Gb external card.
I found an app called directory bind which I thought would move my large games data files and put them on my external card telling my phone where to find them while freeing up my internal SD card. So I tried the following
Source /mnt/extSdCard/Gameloft/
Target /sdcard/Gameloft/
I end up with a copy of my data files on my external sd card but the files are still on my internal sd card. So instead of saving me space this takes extra space on my ext SD card as well. I thought I'll just delete the data on my internal card as its on my external card. What happens? It deletes the files from my external card as well. Really strange. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Personally speaking I would've called the internal SD card the source and the external card the target. Perhaps thats where I'm going wrong but everything on using this app shows the ext card and int card used like this.
I've just found another app called link2sd would this be a better solution than directory bind?
Not sure about what you're asking. But this might help your problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078603
Link2SD won't work either.
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Not sure about what you're asking. But this might help your problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078603
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That sounds like the perfect solution. I still don't understand why directory bind doesn't move the folders for me and just copies them. Also at a loss why deleting from internal sdcard deletes the external sdcard contents too. It looks like there is a binding between the two folders but whats the point if it doesn't clear space on your internal sdcard and just duplicates the folders.
You aren't doing it correctly... I'm using Directory Bind without any problems, although it was a little frustrating at the beginning.
Go to its settings, then change the default data path to
Code:
mnt/extSdCard/
and the default target path to
Code:
/sdcard/
Also, have the Alternate dbase mgmt and Persistent service boxes checked.
Now, just follow this tutorial and it'll work http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889550. Of course, you can specify exact folders both in the data and target paths, I just like to specify each time.
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Link2SD won't work either.
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Hi, yes, Link2SD works on the S3 mini but we need the init.d support for the secured boot.img. I found the batchscript created by doomlord and I have modified this script for our S3 mini. Then I create a ext4 partition (Guide by einstein.frat) on my microSD and the apps with dalvik cache files (.DEX) and library files (libs) is outsource to the ext4 partition. Until now it works without bugs. I`ll later report this in the devlopment section.
Regards
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Hi, yes, Link2SD works on the S3 mini but we need the init.d support for the secured boot.img. I found the batchscript created by doomlord and I have modified this script for our S3 mini. Then I create a ext4 partition (Guide by einstein.frat) on my microSD and the apps with dalvik cache files (.DEX) and library files (libs) is outsource to the ext4 partition. Until now it works without bugs. I`ll later report this in the devlopment section.
Regards
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Any input about it? Is it still doing well?
And since you dealt with it, do some of you guys have any advice on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2227471
Thanks,
Directorybind works fine, or foldermount.
What you see in internal is actually files on external. Try to unmount or delete some file on external and you will see its not a copy.
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Data just pretends to be on internal storage. Use an app call DiskUsage to see exactly how much space it takes up in a nice visual graph
Hi all,
Just got me an Xperia T, very happy with it.
Only thing I am having trouble understanding is how the file system works, please let me try and explain.
I have a 16gb micro SD card in the device and it also has 16gb of internal storage.
When I mount the device to windows it shows two drives (Internal Storage and SD Card), now these are pretty obvious as to which each one is.
Now my quandary: When I use astro file manager to browse the phone the file system is different (in fact pretty much the opposite).
The micro SD card shows up as "ext_card" and the internal storage (I think) shows up as "sdcard" and then there is another folder called "int_storage" that is empty.
Is this correct?
Could someone please clarify this for me?
Thanks,
Dave
Yes, this is the way it's supposed to be.
When you connect to the PC using MTP, you mount SDcard and ext_card from mnt.
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Cheers for the super fast response!
I thought that was how it was working but it was just a little confusing since it swaps around the name of each drive when plugged into windows.
Thanks again.
The way the T handles internal storage is a little odd...
Older devices have the "internal SD" formatted as FAT32.
Newer Android devices have this trick called emulated storage, where a FUSE module does special permissions magic to allow /data/media (on an ext4 system) to be mounted to /sdcard
The T is a little odd in that instead of using /data/media, it has int_storage or something like that, which is then remapped via FUSE to /sdcard. It's the only device I know of to have the internal SD formatted as ext4 but not "unified" internal storage (e.g. /sdcard is just a directory under /data)
Didn't really understand any of that.
But it's nice to know that I was right and it does handle the storage a little strangely (I deduced that much from your post at least).
Hello!
Is there any method to swap internal storage and external storage (map external SD as internal)?
I see some posts about it, but all links are broken.
I just tried to install Omars rom, but realize that cant see any way to increase 4G of internal memory. This is very little for me and i dont want to go back to my old rom with many bugs but with swapped int and ext storage.
Please tell me any way to do this, thanks!
Swap, I'm not sure but maybe Folder Mount?? You can mount most folders from ext to int memory and it runs really stable. Now I have more than 10GB mounted from ext memory to int and I can see no difference to regular install in int memory.
Is Folder Mount something like Directory Bind app? I used it, but it is boring to mount all the separate folders for all apps.
Is it possible to mount tho whole android/data directory?
Never tried this but it has this possibility.
Wysłane z Motorola RAZR i.