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Less free RAM after v20 GB upgrade

Anyone encounter the same issue? Used to have around 180mb before upgrade. Now most times less than
100Mb
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Not less than 100MB but also less than with Froyo.

cheeese said:
Anyone encounter the same issue? Used to have around 180mb before upgrade. Now most times less than
100Mb
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Get a task manager and kill some tasks then, after killing tasks and only excluding stuff i need, eg. messenger app, music ect i get 205mb free ram and never go below 100mb.

I did still?at most 120 only.
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OMG guys, why don't people get this:
Free RAM is wasted RAM.
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kiljacken said:
OMG guys, why don't people get this:
Free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Because your phone slows down when it gets below 100mb, don't bother arguing that because i know from experience that my o2x slows down and becomes choppy when the free ram goes below 100mb, because there is so much crap stored in memory.
If i need something to run ill run it and leave it there and exclude it from task manager but other wise its no use.
Its also a huge battery drain to have so many apps running that you are not using so that's a pretty stupid statement...."free ram is waste ram" lol wtf...., your battery life must be really long.
As for OP, i suggest you install a better rom, i use topigigis 1.7 rom and after killing a bunch of tasks i get up to 205mb free, altho this gets less the longer it goes without a reboot, so try rebooting and hen killing some useless tasks and see what your ram level is at.

eraldo said:
Because your phone slows down when it gets below 100mb, don't bother arguing that because i know from experience that my o2x slows down and becomes choppy when the free ram goes below 100mb, because there is so much crap stored in memory.
If i need something to run ill run it and leave it there and exclude it from task manager but other wise its no use.
Its also a huge battery drain to have so many apps running that you are not using so that's a pretty stupid statement...."free ram is waste ram" lol wtf...., your battery life must be really long.
As for OP, i suggest you install a better rom, i use topigigis 1.7 rom and after killing a bunch of tasks i get up to 205mb free, altho this gets less the longer it goes without a reboot, so try rebooting and hen killing some useless tasks and see what your ram level is at.
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Free ram is wasted ram. And taskkillers will only make you battery life worse if not some app is using all the cpu. The reason RAM is used by android is to keep apps preloaded, for better launch times. The built in task handler is all what is needed. My phone runs blazingly fast at all times, and I don't use a taskkiller.

yupe.. Mine is mostly below 100mb.. 70mb on average. but it's smoother than froyo with 140mb.. list of applications and files are faster to load and smoother.. so i have no complain at all.

I'm also experiencing the lower free memory in the default configuration with GB compared to Froyo. Although I'm not trying to get as much free RAM as possible (because I support the reasons given above for usage of the RAM, having apps in there doesn't mean that they're running) I'm still curious where the missing amount of memory went... Does anybody have any clue what was introduced or changed with GB that could use up about 70MB?

kiljacken said:
Free ram is wasted ram. And taskkillers will only make you battery life worse if not some app is using all the cpu. The reason RAM is used by android is to keep apps preloaded, for better launch times. The built in task handler is all what is needed. My phone runs blazingly fast at all times, and I don't use a taskkiller.
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Oh really and what is your logic for thinking having no unused apps running will use more battery than having lads running.....you make no sense an have no logic or fact to back up such a ridiculas assumption.
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kiljacken said:
Free ram is wasted ram. And taskkillers will only make you battery life worse if not some app is using all the cpu. The reason RAM is used by android is to keep apps preloaded, for better launch times. The built in task handler is all what is needed. My phone runs blazingly fast at all times, and I don't use a taskkiller.
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Clearly you've been on cm7 so long you forgot how bad stock is..
Stock firmware for my phone was horrible and backgrounding was working for only seconds due to lack of ram, Opera would never background, always a new boot.
Cm7 > stock
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I m on stock v20 ROM. Sometime my fone will b sluggish and it seems like e low RAM is causing it. Also wondering where e RAM went After upgrading.

use supercharger
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276

And there's a bug in original stock kernel about memory management, horse power kernels are better for that.

Its not just about the rom your choosing its about the kernel, flash a good kernel and it will improve memory usage.

So does flashing custom kernel void e warranty and does it need rooting? Which is e best kernel for stock ROM v20?
Thanks
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cheeese said:
So does flashing custom kernel void e warranty and does it need rooting? Which is e best kernel for stock ROM v20?
Thanks
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Yes most of the time and Yes. Some providers accept phone customization in warranty, ask yours.
If you have v20L you only have Horse Power kernel (Neoblaze seems bootloop) + Power pack 7 (mandatory, orbootloop, see dedicated threads).

If I reflash my phone using one of the original images availabe and reset it, is there any chance for the provider to detect previous flash operations?
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Yes most of the time and Yes. Some providers accept phone customization in warranty, ask yours.
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So does flashing custom kernel void e warranty and does it need rooting? Which is e best kernel for stock ROM v20?
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Befor i flashed hp sr2 i had 70 to 90 mb free ram now i had 130 to 150 free ram and my baterry seems better.
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I'd tend to relate the better battery life to the new kernel than the increased free ram. I'm on RC9 (w. PP7, no init.d-scripts) and my LGOS reaches almost two days of battery standby with ~50-60MB free RAM.
luka2858 said:
Befor i flashed hp sr2 i had 70 to 90 mb free ram now i had 130 to 150 free ram and my baterry seems better.
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[Q] Low available Ram !!!

Hey Guys ... Did you look to the Ram status in the Galaxy Note ???
I have 600+/800 usage in normal situations !!! and when I clear ram it reached to 400+ which goes back to more than 600 Mb after moderate usage !!! what about in your Notes guys ??? Any solution for this ?? plz comments ....

What is it you are planning on doing with the free ram? Has the use of ram caused any problems? Don't worry about it and use the device. There is no point in trying to worry about something which is being used or not being used which is not affecting you in any way. Until it does have fun with the phone.

Do you think Android is running on air? The Note has 1GB RAM which the OS takes 200MB at boot. The rest is used by apps and other things. If you're not going to use the RAM, then why do you need it?
"My computer uses 50MB of RAM, And i have 32GB of it!" WHAT'S THE POINT?!

Try RAM Manager by Juwe. Be aware that the more memory you free up the worse multitasking will be.

Are you kidding me? Use RAM Manager when your device has 1GB of it? Please slap me as hard as you can.

This thread needs to be deleted.
RAM is there to be used.
I would use 100% of my RAM 100% of the time if I could. If it's not being used, it's being wasted.

Unused RAM is totally wasted. When 2GB devices come out OMG my device is using 1GB out of my 2GB!!!

To each his own, who are you to tell others what to do with their RAM? I'm not your typical "as much free memory as possible freak" but how comes that when I kill some apps before running something more intensive it's usually smoother and performs better?

pjm77 said:
To each his own, who are you to tell others what to do with their RAM? I'm not your typical "as much free memory as possible freak" but how comes that when I kill some apps before running something more intensive it's usually smoother and performs better?
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I've never had to manually kill apps with my G-Note, so I dont know what your doing wrong, Could be a faulty device as far as I can tell.

Thanks for your advice, I'm running to get it replaced.

pjm77 said:
Thanks for your advice, I'm running to get it replaced.
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600mb usage is totally normal on moderate use. Obviously you don't know how RAM Management work on Android. Go and replace your phone but nothing will change.
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Would you replace your computer because it's using to much RAM?
Chances are you would find the RAM hog and keep it from starting up when not neccesary.
600mb is normal usage.... if you are not happy with that high of usage delete the apps that have services running or are always in the background. Android does this for you as you approach full RAM usage anyways though...

garytube said:
600mb usage is totally normal on moderate use. Obviously you don't know how RAM Management work on Android. Go and replace your phone but nothing will change.
Ever heard of irony?
Of course I'm not gonna get it replaced I'm happy with the way it is.
Yes, I've read about Android memory management quite a while ago. Very smart and very convincing. Now on the other hand - every now and then after some intense moments - let's say I'm driving and I'm using offline satnav then online satnav then there is a phonecall, then I make a voice note, I get out, send a text, use my GTD app and whatever else - after hours of such use when I get home, stretch my legs and I fancy to play let's say Galaxy on Fire 2, I find it smoother and less likely to crash if I just press "kill all apps" button in Task Manager. And since I installed RAM Manager I don't have to do it. And I haven't noticed any side effects that would interfere with my style of using my phone.
So guess what - I really don't give a **** about Android memory management and all expert opinions because I know what works for me and I'm happy with that state of things.
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pjm77 said:
garytube said:
600mb usage is totally normal on moderate use. Obviously you don't know how RAM Management work on Android. Go and replace your phone but nothing will change.
Ever heard of irony?
Of course I'm not gonna get it replaced I'm happy with the way it is.
Yes, I've read about Android memory management quite a while ago. Very smart and very convincing. Now on the other hand - every now and then after some intense moments - let's say I'm driving and I'm using offline satnav then online satnav then there is a phonecall, then I make a voice note, I get out, send a text, use my GTD app and whatever else - after hours of such use when I get home, stretch my legs and I fancy to play let's say Galaxy on Fire 2, I find it smoother and less likely to crash if I just press "kill all apps" button in Task Manager. And since I installed RAM Manager I don't have to do it. And I haven't noticed any side effects that would interfere with my style of using my phone.
So guess what - I really don't give a **** about Android memory management and all expert opinions because I know what works for me and I'm happy with that state of things.
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I liked your response, but it's not irony, it's sarcasm
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pjm77 said:
garytube said:
600mb usage is totally normal on moderate use. Obviously you don't know how RAM Management work on Android. Go and replace your phone but nothing will change.
Ever heard of irony?
Of course I'm not gonna get it replaced I'm happy with the way it is.
Yes, I've read about Android memory management quite a while ago. Very smart and very convincing. Now on the other hand - every now and then after some intense moments - let's say I'm driving and I'm using offline satnav then online satnav then there is a phonecall, then I make a voice note, I get out, send a text, use my GTD app and whatever else - after hours of such use when I get home, stretch my legs and I fancy to play let's say Galaxy on Fire 2, I find it smoother and less likely to crash if I just press "kill all apps" button in Task Manager. And since I installed RAM Manager I don't have to do it. And I haven't noticed any side effects that would interfere with my style of using my phone.
So guess what - I really don't give a **** about Android memory management and all expert opinions because I know what works for me and I'm happy with that state of things.
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it looks like to me that you posted in this thread just to promote RAM Manager
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TeeeJaay said:
pjm77 said:
it looks like to me that you posted in this thread just to promote RAM Manager
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I posted in this thread beacuse another user complained about the problem that I came across and found solution to. It's certainly not the best one, but it's the one that works for me.
In the meantime I got ridiculed by more social-oriented users who need to accept and be accepted. To which I got upset and posted some crap. As a result I hijacked the thread. I apologize and shut up.
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LordManhattan said:
Are you kidding me? Use RAM Manager when your device has 1GB of it? Please slap me as hard as you can.
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Samsung makes us fool it has only 800MB RAM. Even i thought it was 1GB.

It has 1GB. 200MB is reserved for the system.
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Memory usage
My daughter started a game where a photo is used in the programme, and I got the message "Free RAM low, resolution of photo reduced". Had to kill running services to be able to run it without the reduced resolution. Checked the overall Galaxy Note ram usage and just out of the box I have around 230mb free of RAM, I have an HTC Desire HD (768 ram) that has the same free and it is filled with running apps. When you get that kind of messages from a new phone, from some ****ty simple kid programme before I have even filled it up with stuff I get really annoyed. When I kill all I can i can get max up to 400mb.

Yup, TouchWiz is a greedy RAM eating whore. Wait for CM9 and then you'll see why custom UIs like TouchWiz and Sense is bull****.
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Low free RAM on ICS

Hello all XDA devs and users!
I've decided to run a new thread becasue recently a few users (including me) had a discussion about low free RAM available on our ICS roms and kernels (different ones i.e. Infinitum + Devil kernel, CM9 and others).
What I have found on my devices after running a couple of days without restart I end up with 40 - 50 MB of free ram with Devil XL kernel (389 MB), where the other users with similar configuration have more than 100 MB.
I know that some of you might say, this is how the Android handles the RAM and that is good when most of the memory is consumed. I would totally agree with that however when there is around 40-50 MB left, the phone starts to perform slower and starting another app result in lags.
I do not want to use any task killers because what I have read, they simply do not work well with android (see rule above).
Maybe some of you have an experience or knowledge, why on some devices there is more than 130 MB of RAM left even if there are 8 - 9 apps running (i.e. services) - after couple of days and on some others there is only 40-50 and phone lags more and more.

Reboot the phone everyday when you're having a shower.

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Reboot the phone everyday when you're having a shower.
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Thx for the tip, but I do not see this as a good solution. It's hard to predict when or how often the phone gets slower due to low Ram available.
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Play some good games that require higher system requirements once in a while. You'll have a lot of free ram (around 200+ cm9 nightly).
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i always get min 130 mb amount of ram and i dont restarted phone for 6 days.
(ICSSGS RC4.2 + Devil xl VC 0.72)

~N.A.W.Y~ said:
i always get min 130 mb amount of ram and i dont restarted phone for 6 days.
(ICSSGS RC4.2 + Devil xl VC 0.72)
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That's the proof that RAM doesn't get consumed by the android system after a day or two.
Do you use any task killers or modification to your system?
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vitoski said:
That's the proof that RAM doesn't get consumed by the android system after a day or two.
Do you use any task killers or modification to your system?
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nope.. only using this config with 1200 mhz overclock.
i also not restarting phone.because fearing for that damn bootloop on these new huge mem config kernels

You can flash Semaphore Kernel sbm, it gives 410MB of RAM, the HD recording gets broken but i think its a good sacrifice for a good performance.

-Dante- said:
You can flash Semaphore Kernel sbm, it gives 410MB of RAM, the HD recording gets broken but i think its a good sacrifice for a good performance.
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Yes I can but the point is that the more available RAM will be eventually taken by the system at the end of the day. Increasing more RAM by the kernel will not help here. Right now I have Devil with 389 so only 20 mb less than with semaphore but still more as with the default kernel.
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I notice this as well. You have to either run a Rom that includes a low memory killer, e.g. aokp. Or you need to use a kernel where you can set the lmk, e.g. semaphore. I think if you don't do either of the above, the default free ram is around 45-50mb. I am using aokp with midnight kernel at the moment, with free ram set to 75 mb free.
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tips -
try GO
Menu > Setting > Developer options > Background process limit
set to 4
u shuold have more ram most of the time~should be always above 60 around 100
give u best multitask also, i feel got bug but i really dun no which and what is it...
but it still ok for daily use

I got 220mb free with many process. But on miui and aokp its arround 50.
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Ok i reckon the best way to improve RAM and system memory is by using this tweak.
I have around 120mb also and multitask around up to 4-5 apps without it closing.
I use ICS btw.
Ok go to google or XDA search and type supercharger, follow instructions and Wolla, U should have about 120mb of RAM all the time.
If that is to hard for you here is a simply method. Go to Play Store and type RAM manager (PRO). there is a free version but its not that good. Trust me the PRO version is way better, buy the app and use it!
It is really good!

THX guys for all concepts and advices!
After a couple of tests and research I've done so far there is one method that simply works perfect for our SGS devices.
No matter how much free RAM you push from the kernel (THX to all DEVS for BM kernels) we will not have enough free RAM for the hardware our phones have. I my opinion SAMSUNG simply f**** up here and gave not enough RAM for the phone that can act so fast and handle pretty resource hungry apps and games(
I have used 'Supercharger' script extensively when I was on GB Roms. It did pretty good job, nevertheless you always end up in the situation where more RAM is needed. In this case 'Android' (LMK) kills running or buffered apps to make new rom for the app you started.
Some time ago I have compared GS2 with GS1 against RAM. The key thing why S2 works so well is amount of RAM. Even if the system is loaded and RAM reserved for GPU and sensors the S2 has at least 500 MB FREE, which we will not have never...
SOLUTION:
The solution I have found (in fact it was not me, I simply started to using it) is SWAP. Recently one of the greatest kernel devs (DerTeufel1980) here on XDA published his kernel (Devil v0.79) with SWAP option enabled. If you create a partition or file with apps from Google Play store (like the pagefile in MS Win) you have more RAM (not physically, but still apps are being loaded into swap file).
I was doing some tests few minutes ago and got that:
- 10 tabs opened in ICS+ browser (each was unique - not Google search)
- Any.DO
- QuickAccess
- PowerAmp
- Snowstorm
And I could access every single app quicker than ever before. In fact I could not start 10 tabs in web browser not to kill launcher before or any other app I had buffered in RAM.
For those of you who are wondering if that is a good solution I can say that you should try it. If you do not like it will not use it and stay with kernel and LMK you have now.
I am happy with that so far and of course will do some more tests.

Autostarts
I use an app called Autostarts which you can purchase in google play store. What it does it stops apps from starting up on there own, you wont believe how many apps start up when they are not needed e.g - when you plug the charger in Google Mapps will start up in the background or when Wi-fi is switched on the calender will start up and run in the background, why??? i havnt got a clue but with Autostarts you can pick and choose which apps you want to start or not. I've used it for the past 8 - 12 months and i cant fault it one bit. I'm on AOKP Milestone 5 SGS at the mo and i always have between 170mb & 210mb of Ram availible because i stop uneccessary apps from starting up

i'm using ics with many running service as i can,and i never get lower than 80...gtalk,viber,Y!,any.do,gesture search,and so on...
1-first of all,try NOT to kill useful and auto restart-able apps like the ones u use sometime your widgets of course!;in my case it includes viber,facebook,any.do...
cause in every restart android lost a little of ram,and it cant recover that anymore
2-try disabling location service and force close google maps(if you've installed),it really helped me!
3-try "auto start manager" apps
4-use system tuners and tune ur ram auto kill levels.
i've tested many combinations and found 16,32,40,50,50,80 with GB 2.3.4 acting nice to me,but now i have 14,19,24,32,37,50 on ics 4.0.3 CGen.Mod and i had no problem so i didn't bother myself to test any other combination

Rebooting doesn't really help. Limiting background processes or ReChild's Advanced Task Killer as an easy solution. 400mb kernel and/or force closing/disabling apps, clearing cache if you know what you're doing.
If you're flashing CM9 nightlies every few days, you won't have too many troubles with free RAM.

Did anyone try CM9 SNAPSHOT? any reviews? Also when a new nightly comes out..is it getting better? ..in short ..devs..must be implementing new changes..
Correct me if i am wrong
Thanks

Shoot, I have just started similar thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632914

Abyv said:
Did anyone try CM9 SNAPSHOT? any reviews? Also when a new nightly comes out..is it getting better? ..in short ..devs..must be implementing new changes..
Correct me if i am wrong
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im running snapshot as of now. no problem so far. battery seems better.
never try 02Apr build. dont see any interesting fix on the release. Basically i will just try it if the fix is interest me. well that just me.

Ram management

So I'm sure we all know about launcher redraws and such, how to reduce such issues? My BL is unlocked but I'm enjoying doomkernel and don't want to take the plunge into CM just yet
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So I'm sure we all know about launcher redraws and such, how to reduce such issues? My BL is unlocked but I'm enjoying doomkernel and don't want to take the plunge into CM just yet
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You can try using Clean Master.Recently a user had problem with ram management(especially when playing games) and clean master fixed his issue.You should also try it or wait for android 4.3 and hope for a better ram management :fingers-crossed:

UltraWelfare said:
You can try using Clean Master.Recently a user had problem with ram management(especially when playing games) and clean master fixed his issue.You should also try it or wait for android 4.3 and hope for a better ram management :fingers-crossed:
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I installed the 4.3 leak already, at least I haven't parted with stock completely thanks anyway
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UltraWelfare said:
You can try using Clean Master.Recently a user had problem with ram management(especially when playing games) and clean master fixed his issue.You should also try it or wait for android 4.3 and hope for a better ram management :fingers-crossed:
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I tried clean master yesterday but the result was not great... I search some tuto about how to use it and if I understand well, it's just a task killer.
I also tried an experiment : I enabled the little widget (in clean master) which show the percentage of RAM used in real time, then I opened a game (dear hunter 2014).
After 1 minute in the game, the percentage of RAM used (if the information of clean master is exact) was 67% and suddenly, the widget disappeared : I think all the app in background had been closed. So why? It shouldn't happend because a lot of RAM was free.
And finally, even with all app in background killed, after 2/3 minutes, I have a FC in the game...
So if someone has an idea/theory about what happen with RAM management, I would be very happy to know!
Informations :Xperia SP Rooted, BL Locked, ROM : Existenz 1.3.7.

Jamprojekt said:
I tried clean master yesterday but the result was not great... I search some tuto about how to use it and if I understand well, it's just a task killer.
I also tried an experiment : I enabled the little widget (in clean master) which show the percentage of RAM used in real time, then I opened a game (dear hunter 2014).
After 1 minute in the game, the percentage of RAM used (if the information of clean master is exact) was 67% and suddenly, the widget disappeared : I think all the app in background had been closed. So why? It shouldn't happend because a lot of RAM was free.
And finally, even with all app in background killed, after 2/3 minutes, I have a FC in the game...
So if someone has an idea/theory about what happen with RAM management, I would be very happy to know!
Informations :Xperia SP Rooted, BL Locked, ROM : Existenz 1.3.7.
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The little widget dissapears when a fullscreen app is being used..It continues in background.

@non4 said:
I installed the 4.3 leak already, at least I haven't parted with stock completely thanks anyway
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ram management in 4.3 leak seems like not working. as ram drops to as low as 14mb.

panjgoori said:
ram management in 4.3 leak seems like not working. as ram drops to as low as 14mb.
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That is probalby because it's a leak, only meant for testing

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The little widget dissapears when a fullscreen app is being used..It continues in background.
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I'm not sure we are talking about the same "widget". I'm talking about the option "flotting widget". And yes, it is supposed to stay all the time on screen (and by the way it stayed a minute aproximatly).

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I'm not sure we are talking about the same "widget". I'm talking about the option "flotting widget". And yes, it is supposed to stay all the time on screen (and by the way it stayed a minute aproximatly).
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Check clean master settings or install battery doctor

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Check clean master settings or install battery doctor
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Thank you for the answer and the idea.
But I really would understand what happen with the RAM.
Before, I used LMT Launcher (pie control) and the same thing happened: LMT was killed after 1 minute in the game.
To sum up: I have 300mb RAM free, I open the game and then all app are killed. And I don't understand why. The game don't use more than 300 mb RAM no?
Plus, this problem don't happen with my brother's galaxy tab 3 (1Gb RAM too).

Jamprojekt said:
Thank you for the answer and the idea.
But I really would understand what happen with the RAM.
Before, I used LMT Launcher (pie control) and the same thing happened: LMT was killed after 1 minute in the game.
To sum up: I have 300mb RAM free, I open the game and then all app are killed. And I don't understand why. The game don't use more than 300 mb RAM no?
Plus, this problem don't happen with my brother's galaxy tab 3 (1Gb RAM too).
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First of all you can click the thanks button .That's why it is there to shorten the length of telling thanks.Back to our point.
LMT things that your game is eating a lot ram and doesn't know if you are really using it.So it kills it to save up ram.
Each games uses different amount of ram.Like a 2d game would use 50mb ram and a 3d game may use 100mb of ram.
It depends on.Xperia SP has a bad ram management for now and onwards to the next version (4.3) it will be fixed a lot.
The rollout starts early Feb / ends of Jan...You can wait a little can't you?

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First of all you can click the thanks button .That's why it is there to shorten the length of telling thanks.Back to our point.
LMT things that your game is eating a lot ram and doesn't know if you are really using it.So it kills it to save up ram.
Each games uses different amount of ram.Like a 2d game would use 50mb ram and a 3d game may use 100mb of ram.
It depends on.Xperia SP has a bad ram management for now and onwards to the next version (4.3) it will be fixed a lot.
The rollout starts early Feb / ends of Jan...You can wait a little can't you?
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Of course I can wait but I'm afraid that it won't be better in the future (the leak of 4.3 don't improve this point obsviously even with more free RAM).

Jamprojekt said:
Of course I can wait but I'm afraid that it wan't be better in the future (the leak of 4.3 don't improve this point obsviously even with more free RAM).
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Days pass devs improve...We don't know what they will bring ...I will find some more apps to free your ram later on but until the devs won't fix it you will have bad ram management(Not only you)

UltraWelfare said:
Days pass devs improve...We don't know what they will bring ...I will find some more apps to free your ram later on but until the devs won't fix it you will have bad ram management(Not only you)
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you could also use greenify (with xposed features) and fast reboot before playing a game. works like a charm to me

Nanostray said:
you could also use greenify (with xposed features) and fast reboot before playing a game. works like a charm to me
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Nanostray you are a magician.I totally forgot greenify(even though i have it installed)

UltraWelfare said:
Nanostray you are a magician.I totally forgot greenify(even though i have it installed)
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If you need a really powerful combination, put the hibernate-shortcut together with the fast reboot app on the same homescreen. Then first use the fast reboot (system apps etc) and then use greenify (all other apps, including fast reboot).Instant 300mb+ RAM (with my phone)

Nanostray said:
If you need a really powerful combination, put the hibernate-shortcut together with the fast reboot app on the same homescreen. Then first use the fast reboot (system apps etc) and then use greenify (all other apps, including fast reboot).Instant 300mb+ RAM (with my phone)
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So only 400mb are being used from the device?

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So only 400mb are being used from the device?
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I'm not sure, but the first 5 minutes after the killing, free RAM is usually 350-360mb

Nanostray said:
I'm not sure, but the first 5 minutes after the killing, free RAM is usually 350-360mb
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Then how is it possible that Chrome kills music player? My Desire X has 768 mb ram and can keep both running (on a heavy sense rom)

GtrCraft said:
Then how is it possible that Chrome kills music player? My Desire X has 768 mb ram and can keep both running (on a heavy sense rom)
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No clue mate, better drivers maybe?

[Q] how to free more ram

hi everyone i want to know how to free more ram in stock rom when i restart its almost 700mb ram usage and after normal use its goes to 1200mb but i want free memory like my nexus 4 which use ram 350mb to 700mb max please help me guys

pradatta said:
hi everyone i want to know how to free more ram in stock rom when i restart its almost 700mb ram usage and after normal use its goes to 1200mb but i want free memory like my nexus 4 which use ram 350mb to 700mb max please help me guys
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My RAM usage is about that high, 700mb. But since the Z1 has about 1.6 gb of RAM, you shouldn't really worry. If it does get to the point where apps stop working or services become unresponsive, restart the phone or kill the app that's using the RAM. I believe when your RAM usage is about 1.5 GB it starts becoming a bit unresponsive.
Nexus uses less RAM because it only has stock apps. Sony has their own software running in the background along with some of Google's apps.

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My RAM usage is about that high, 700mb. But since the Z1 has about 1.6 gb of RAM, you shouldn't really worry. If it does get to the point where apps stop working or services become unresponsive, restart the phone or kill the app that's using the RAM. I believe when your RAM usage is about 1.5 GB it starts becoming a bit unresponsive.
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ya actually u r right but this is not related mobile lag or hang i just want my mobile should use less ram so i m searching for that kind of answer any way u really help me with ur fast reply thanks:good:

You have to be rooted and delete all the unnecessary application which working in background.

eclyptos said:
You have to be rooted and delete all the unnecessary application which working in background.
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i have rooted device and how to know which app i should delete from background ?

pradatta said:
ya actually u r right but this is not related mobile lag or hang i just want my mobile should use less ram so i m searching for that kind of answer any way u really help me with ur fast reply thanks:good:
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That doesn't makes sense. As long as your device isn't unresponsive or laggy you shouldn't bother about RAM-Usage. Android handles your available Memory quite well.
Try looking at it like this:
There isn't any use in having more and more RAM, if people on the other hand go and try to keep the RAM-usage low. As long as you don't have problems (lags or such) having free RAM is just eyecandy.
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For every app killed, Android needs to load it from storage the next time, resulting in more battery drain than just letting it idle in memory

xXFlippyXx said:
That doesn't makes sense. As long as your device isn't unresponsive or laggy you shouldn't bother about RAM-Usage. Android handles your available Memory quite well.
Try looking at it like this:
There isn't any use in having more and more RAM, if people on the other hand go and try to keep the RAM-usage low. As long as you don't have problems (lags or such) having free RAM is just eyecandy.
Additionally:
For every app killed, Android needs to load it from storage the next time, resulting in more battery drain than just letting it idle in memory
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ohh thanks reply and and suggestions :good:

pradatta said:
i have rooted device and how to know which app i should delete from background ?
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It's a kind of thread like this one for Arc
but for Z1 somewhere, I remember a saw that thread with a list of apps to uninstall, search for it.