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I get a black screen and have to wait 15-30 seconds for the launcher and icons to show up when exiting an application. This has happened to me with earlier cyanogenmod versions as well. I was thinking maybe I should wipe and reflash the ROM. Does anyone know the cause of this and any fixes?
Thanks.
Wipe is definitely in order but first you should look at your usage:
1. How many widgets do you have on your screens? How many apps do you have on your phone? Do you use "Advanced launcher"? Obviously all of those factors will make a difference.
2. Get an "Advanced Task Manager" from the market and see how many programs do you have running that you don't need. You can set it up so ATM closes unneeded programs once every 30 min thus freeing up your ram memory, make sure to exclude google stuff and programs that need to be running at all times (like weather widgets)
3. Do you use any 3D graphic intensive apps or watch a lot of video? If not, then 10mb hack is in order and is the best thing to happen to a man since the sliced bread.
4. Go into Spare Parts and activate "Keep home app in memory", it makes a world of a difference but may drain your battery faster, although not a big deal for me.
5. Wipe your dalvik-cache from SD. A regular wipe only goes so far so you need to make sure that you wipe Dalvik-cache every now and then.
All in all, let's face it, our G1s are very limited in terms of CPU power and Ram memory so anything we do will have trade-offs. Cyan's roms push it pretty much to the limit so lag is expected, although can be minimized.
Good luck.
nasman1993 said:
I get a black screen and have to wait 15-30 seconds for the launcher and icons to show up when exiting an application. This has happened to me with earlier cyanogenmod versions as well. I was thinking maybe I should wipe and reflash the ROM. Does anyone know the cause of this and any fixes?
Thanks.
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get rid off linux swap it slows down the phone cuz cy doesnt use swap in his rom b get Set cpu or overclocking widget.
Thanks for the info borodin.
I wiped and reflashed the ROM, as well as flashing the 10 mb RAM hack. I've also done everything else you mentioned.
Is there a way to get rid of the regular launcher after installing advanced launcher?
Reboot into recovery, make a back-up, drop into console and
Code:
mount /system
mount /system
rm /system/app/Launcher.apk
rm -r /system/sd/dalvik-cache
reboot
Same thing with any other system apps you don't like (such as amazon.mp3, or whatever else). Just make sure to make a back up and stay away from google stuff. If you need to see exact names of apps you can use ls command
So, a little history...
I'm on my 2nd Captivate (unrelated issue). The boot problems didn't arise until I restored my data onto it. The first time I tried restoring system data along with my apps (which I figured was safe since I was going from 2.1 stock to the same) but that had lots of issues. So I did a factory reset, and started over. This time I just restored apps and their data, and a few specific pieces of system data (contacts, wifi APs, etc). That worked better. But later I got too aggressive with what system apps I "froze" (using Titanium Backup), and it got into boot loops I couldn't break out of. So I did another factory reset.
This time, first I carefully froze only apps I was to confirm were safe to freeze. I didn't proceed restoring my apps until I was done freezing and ensured it was booting fine. I then restored all my apps (and their data). The problem is now that it takes forever to boot... in fact, it'll go into a boot loop if I just leave it be. It seems the only way I can gain access is to try and unlock it before it's done booting, clear any "Force close" errors (sometimes takes a few tries) and given enough attempts, I can get in. But the boot takes an unbelievable amount of time, and even with my original apps is many times longer than before on my previous Captivate. Once I fuss my way in, it seems mostly fine, but something is obviously wrong and I want to get it straightened out.
Aside from doing another factory reset, and reinstalling all my apps (which takes like a day without troubleshooting after each, since batch restores in TB don't seem to work well on the Captivate so I have to do them one by one), I'm hoping there's a way to troubleshoot it in its current state and try to fix the problem surgically versus erasing and starting over. I looked at the logcat logs but got in over my head... there are so many errors and warnings and I don't know what's normal and what isn't... too many to know where to begin with searching Google.
So... advice? What tools are available? Even the logcat doesn't seem to kick in until the boot is mostly done, so I'm not sure if it can catch the problem while it's happening. One frustrating thing about Android is that is seems to have no "safe mode" or other diagnostic boot or full logging where you can methodically look at what's happening and experiment with the config. If this was a Windows, Linux or FreeBSD box I'd be in my element and able to get to the bottom of this, but on Android I feel even more crippled, locked-out and helpless than even on Windows. Urgh.
There's got to be a better way to troubleshoot and fix than endless random factory resets. This is something us anti-Windows people scold PC makers for, with all their use of "Restore CDs" for every minor and trivial software issue.
Thanks!
I can't help but think you are still disabling some essential system apps. Either that or one of your apps is causing major problems. Please list what you have frozen in tibu. Btw, the batch function works fine and is what most people on here use.
Also, what is force closing after you restore your apps.
newter55 said:
I can't help but think you are still disabling some essential system apps. Either that or one of your apps is causing major problems. Please list what you have frozen in tibu. Btw, the batch function works fine and is what most people on here use.
Also, what is force closing after you restore your apps.
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First of all, thanks for taking a stab at this.
My frozen apps are:
* AllShare
* AT&T FamilyMap
* AT&T Hot Spots
* AT&T Maps
* AT&T Music
* AT&T Navigator
* AT&T Radio
* Daily Briefing
* Days
* Instant Messaging
* Media Hub
* Mini Diary
* Mobile Banking
* Mobile Video
* MobiTV
* Where
* Write and Go
* YPmobile
I also tried removing my MicroSD card, as well as switching back to Touchwiz (from LauncherPro). Didn't help.
Yeah the batch problem in TB is very frustrating. I'm using the pay/donate version so I'm missing out on a feature I paid for. I've been exchanging emails with Joel (the author) and we haven't figured it out yet. Batch backups work fine. Batch uninstalls also work fine (update: phone just spontaneously rebooted after about 50 or so uninstalls in a batch). It's the batch restores that seem to choke it. It's not corrupt backup files... a verify runs fine, and I can individually restore the same handful of apps one by one that will choke and hang/reboot the Captivate if attempted to restore in a batch.
The FC error I get is on boot-up, as I try to unlock the screen prior to the boot finishing. I often see "Process system is not responding".
I have aLogcat installed, if that's any use. A few questions about that:
- What's the best logging level to view on? In other words, do I care about "Warnings"?
- What errors are common, harmless, and safe to ignore?
Currently I've tried uninstalling everything down to just a few core apps. Certainly boots fine now, but I get plenty of warnings and errors in logcat.
Are u restoring just the user installed apps+data, or system apps too? Or restoring system stuff like contacts data, accounts prefs, etc?
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Are u restoring just the user installed apps+data, or system apps too? Or restoring system stuff like contacts data, accounts prefs, etc?
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I did not do a "restore system data" or any batch/bulk option in TB that restored all system data. As I recall, the only system data I restored a-la-carte (by selecting the individual item from the TB list) were:
Accounts
Bluetooth pairints
Bookmarks
Calendar
Contacts
Wi-Fi Access Points
These were all items in green in TB. I don't believe I restored anything else. Possibilities I suppose are wallpaper settings, "Country, Launguage, Time Zone"... but I definitely would not have restored anything not green.
Are these items safe? Is there any system data definitely not safe to restore? I have to wonder though, if "system data" is unsafe to even restore to the same stock OS version... why back it up at all?
I'm not a long distance from doing yet another factory reset I suppose, if it must come to that. But I'd love a way a bit more analytical/exacting to try and troubleshoot this other than "reinstall one app, reboot, see what happens" as that will take me a week to get back to where I was. I also suspect it's not just one single app that would suddenly show a huge difference after installing, but instead might be the cumulative errors from several apps and knowing how to identify that and clean them up would be useful.
Using adb logcat you can view what is occurring while the phone is booting and possibly see where it is hanging or what is causing the slow boot times. I have seen problems from restoring data such as accounts and contacts with titanium backup but does not seem that it should be an issue when using the same system though I have very little experience with the stock firmware. I know it is not an answer to your question but it seems that you are wanting to remove all the att/Samsung BS so why not flash a rom that does this as well as much more?
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
Thanks for the tip about adb. I've actually not needed adb for anything yet so I've never set it up or used it. I wasn't aware that the service would be active early enough on the phone's boot process to allow it to log boot logs... nor was I even aware it could do this. I'll definitely check out how to set this up... however, if you have a free second and can point me in the right direction (FAQ, instructions, etc) it'd certainly be appreciated otherwise I'll search around and try to find it.
I could probably find other ways to restore contacts and could set my accounts up again manually but I really doubt that's the cause and the other ways are sort of a pain and imperfect. Since neither of us is really convinced that'd be it I won't bother yet until/unless you really suspect it.
I wondered how long it'd take before someone would suggest a custom ROM, this being XDA and all. Short version is I'm not really sold on the concept, as they are all based on the buggy beta leaked ROM, or 2.2 ROMs from other devices that have been hacked up to sort of work as well as possible on the Captivate. All seem to have issues... enough that I'm not really left feeling confident about them. Seems every release unleashes new issues despite addressing old ones, and all seem to have at least a handful of gremlin items that just don't work quite right. Don't have a warm fuzzy feeling, and I still feel like Samsung is going to release an official 2.2 for the Captivate within the next month or so, so I'm interested to see what comes of that. If nothing else, it'll give a better baseline for custom 2.2 ROMs. Then there's the 2.3 being worked on... now that might be interesting.
I don't really think my issue here is related to me running 2.1.
On my phone so it is a pita to search and add a link for you but search for android sdk and you will find what you need to get adb up and running.
And as far as the rom issue goes..it is your phone and I respect your concerns I just had to ask
I would think its media hub that slows it down. It will search your SD cards on every boot. I would start there first.
smokestack76 said:
I would think its media hub that slows it down. It will search your SD cards on every boot. I would start there first.
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That's one of the apps I've frozen though.
For me the longest process while booting is the stupid media scanner upon bootup. Takes FOREVER for the phone to finally "boot" all the way up.
Been looking for a way to disable it (not really lol) and only have it scan manually to see if the boot time will improve. I'd start searching there.
Also - from what I've read nothing you did should have affected the phone. BUT - if your using Google for your Calendar and Contacts.. and they all get synced up to Google? Why bother doing the restore for those? After you sign up with the Market they get pulled back down to your phone automagically
It's definitely more than just the media scanner. I watch that. When everything is loaded up, it actually reboots in a loop unless intercept the FC. The media scanner will rerun over and over each time... far more than the standard two times.
And I use Google Calendar for my events, but I keep my contacts locally on my phone.
So what is the FC again?
Yep.. my media scanner will run at least 3 times before it stops checking everything.
Very frustrating that the software does this EVERY time I boot back into my phone - you'd think a programmer would put a check to see if it had run before or make it user configurable to scan when you want it to.
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So what is the FC again?
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See my second post (reply #3):
"Process system is not responding"
LOL sorry not enough coffee and a lil' guy that decided to wake up at 4a.m. = not a good mix.
Well.. did the ol' wise search of Google and came up with:
Might be a permissions issue. Easiest way to fix it is to run ROM Manager and have it fix permisions.
Run the command yourself in ADB:
Code:
Open terminal and
>su
$mount -a
$fix_permissions -r
The -r is optional, but necessary if you find orphaned apps (the app not found please reinstall message)
And reboot. That may help.
And it was also stated that you might have an errant widget/application causing the issue as well. That will be fun trying to figure out what it is.
And.. from my non-dev/non-professional experience - I have checked the logs on my phone and do see a large number of warnings on the phone - but never hindered performance.
So.. 99% of the time you can probably ignore them.
But back to the FC issue - I would try doing a restore of your apps/data again (I read where you have it back down to the "core) and then run the permission script or have ROM Manager do it for you and see if it returns.
Just an update that I think the "fix permissions" thing solved most (but perhaps not all) of my issues. Thanks so much for the tip. I've been reinstalling apps in batches and it's much better, although I see it getting bogged-down bit by bit and I can't pin down what or why.
Thing is, the apps I'm installing in these later rounds/batches shouldn't be resident all the time, shouldn't be auto-loading, and don't come up in things like Startup Cleaner or Advanced Task Killer. Nor do the various process monitors I've tried seem to have the granularity/ability to catch them while they're happening.
So things are better, but I still have some issues without a suitable means to diagnose. I don't get why just having more apps installed, but not running, should affect boot time so much. Hmm...
An inability to troubleshoot certainly rains on my love-affair with Android... not that I'm jumping to another platform anytime soon, but I really want this to work well (as well as be a good salesman to friends and family who often turn to me to show off quality technology).
I think there are flaws to the way android operates. Let's take Windows operating system for example. I have hundreds and hundreds of programs, software and applications -- but is it running all the time? Nope.
When I reboot my Android phone, I hit the "advanced task manager" widget to close all running apps (sometimes I get 45-50). About 2 mins later I do it again (and now 30 close)
The question begs to be asked. Why, if they are being closed, are they opening up again by themselves ? How do I make it so they don't open up by themselves ?
The "auto-killer" in the task manager is set at the highest level (insane) and yet it STILL has 20-30 apps "open" every time I hit task manager.
This phone is incredibly laggy.
(2.1 eclair, stock, no root, no OCLF)
Those apps aren't actually running and eating cpu cycles, they are stored in ram so when you do open one of them or another app requests them it doesn't take so long or lag. If your phone is slow I would do a factor reset because these phone are not slow. Hope that works!
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
I've only had my phone less than a month (after doing a reset because of what I perceived to be a faulty SD issue)
Maybe it's time I should start messing around with the flashing etc.
spectre85 said:
Those apps aren't actually running and eating cpu cycles, they are stored in ram so when you do open one of them or another app requests them it doesn't take so long or lag. If your phone is slow I would do a factor reset because these phone are not slow. Hope that works!
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
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Says the guy running a speed mod kernal lol
I'd suggest factory reset, plugging into PC and upgrading to v2.2 via Kies, then get v2.2.1 from Kies if you want or samfirmware.com
You can use titanium to backup all your user apps and data, works a treat.
Contacts can be synced with your google account (if they aren't already).
SMS can be backuped if you wish using one of the free apps in the market.
Funkadelick said:
I've only had my phone less than a month (after doing a reset because of what I perceived to be a faulty SD issue)
Maybe it's time I should start messing around with the flashing etc.
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Until I started flashing custom ROMs my SGS was quite laggy...flashing is the way to go, just make sure you do your research. Check the link in my signature for a load of guides.
Sorry For making another Battery Thread But I'm getting more than 65% in use of the Android System on the Battery
But i Saw this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013469&highlight=android+system&page=4
And then this under the same topic
- Flashed V10F EUR OPEN
- Rooted (follow the guide!)
- Factory Reset
- Updated SuperSU + binary
- Reboot
- Installed Titanium Backup Root Pro
- Re-installed my backed up apps (no mods, no root apps yet!)
- Reboot
- Installed CWM, GPS mod, Camera mod (follow the guides!)
- Reboot
- Uninstalled most of the apps in the Application Manager from LG; SmartWorld, Today+, ...
- Freezed the following apps with Titanium Backup Root Pro:
Quote: - Alarm/Clock
- Application Manager
- Calculator
- Calender
- Calender Widget
- Cell Broadcast
- Chrome
- Downloads
- E-mail
- E-mail Widget
- Face Unlock
- Favorite Contacts Widget
- Finance
- Google+
- Internet
- Media Home
- Memo
- Memo Widget
- Messaging
- Music Player 3.
- Music Player 2.
- MusicFX
- News
- On-Screen Phone
- Remote Support Service
- Remote Call Service
- SIM Toolkit
- Smart Log Service
- SmartShare
- Social+
- Streaming Player
- Tags
- Talk
- Video Player
- Voice Recorder
- Voice Search
- Weather
- Reboot
- Installed Memory Booster (paid version)
- Installed my other root apps: CPUTuner, Autostart Manager, SDMaid
Quote: - In Autostart Manager I disabled most of the apps I don't want to start after a boot, so I filtered the 'Boot Completed' enablers. And disabled all those unnecessary.
- In CPUTuner I use an Uniform configuration with 2 Triggers (battery 100% and battery 50%). I have 6 Profiles with different CPU clock speeds, governors, I/O, ... settings. If you want details about those I can add them at request.
- Reboot
- Clean-up the device a bit with SDMaid, optimize the databases
- Reboot
- Reboot into Recovery Mode, Wipe the Dalvick Cache
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And I did flashed and rooted, but didn't Restore to Factory, also i did upgrade SuperSU and istalled the CWM and then Deleted Dalvik and Paritition cache files
What i wanted to ask, is that after all this should i make a factory reset? if not should i UnInstall only the LG programs and then freeze all the other apps?
Am asking this because it seems alot for me having 70-80% on the Android System usage for the battery
Edit: IDK, for example i consume alot of Battery just for using facebook and the music player, but it's not fair that in my ipod i don't use more than 5% and on the 4x i used 20%
or consuming(airplanemode) even if im not uisng it
Hopefully one day our Mods on here will just take all these threads and roll them into one.
STOP OPENING THREADS ABOUT BATTERY USE!!!
We know there are some problems with it. Solutions have been posted that may help some people. We don't need every person who owns an LG 4X opening s thread to complain about the battery :banghead:
SimonTS said:
Hopefully one day our Mods on here will just take all these threads and roll them into one.
STOP OPENING THREADS ABOUT BATTERY USE!!!
We know there are some problems with it. Solutions have been posted that may help some people. We don't need every person who owns an LG 4X opening s thread to complain about the battery :banghead:
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Sorry, but i can't resolve it on my own, and i can't figure it out why i have this problem while other people already fixed it.
Edit: I did a fabric restore and then downloaded GSAM Battery Monitor and it shoed that Android System is using 99% of my battery
In the Easy Battery Saver it says that the Adroid System uses 80% of my charge... And i don't have any apps installed
And in my Battery Settings the Android System is always on 66%-75%, Should i install a custom ROM?
Necromancer077 said:
Sorry, but i can't resolve it on my own, and i can't figure it out why i have this problem while other people already fixed it.
Edit: I did a fabric restore and then downloaded GSAM Battery Monitor and it shoed that Android System is using 99% of my battery
In the Easy Battery Saver it says that the Adroid System uses 80% of my charge... And i don't have any apps installed
And in my Battery Settings the Android System is always on 66%-75%, Should i install a custom ROM?
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If you don't know, Android System includes:
--Settings
--SystemBackupService
--com.lge.internal
--VpnDialogs
--Smart Log Service
--System Interface
--LGSetupWizard
--Image Updater
--com.android.providers.settings
--Android System
--Key Chain
--com.lge.lockscreen
--Shutdown Monitor
--LGSystemServer
--Task Manager
--LG MLT
--Google Backup Transport
--com.lge.hiddenmenu
--LocMgrProvider
--LockScreenSettings
--Home Selector
--Camera Test
As you can see, its not an app but several, its normal that they are in the top of usage list.
That depends also how you use your phone.
Some of them can be frozen, search in other threads and you'll find a list or screen shots of my frozen apps (if you're interested of course...)
RuedasLocas said:
If you don't know, Android System includes:
--Settings
--SystemBackupService
--com.lge.internal
--VpnDialogs
--Smart Log Service
--System Interface
--LGSetupWizard
--Image Updater
--com.android.providers.settings
--Android System
--Key Chain
--com.lge.lockscreen
--Shutdown Monitor
--LGSystemServer
--Task Manager
--LG MLT
--Google Backup Transport
--com.lge.hiddenmenu
--LocMgrProvider
--LockScreenSettings
--Home Selector
--Camera Test
As you can see, its not an app but several, its normal that they are in the top of usage list.
That depends also how you use your phone.
Some of them can be frozen, search in other threads and you'll find a list or screen shots of my frozen apps (if you're interested of course...)
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Thx for responding, seriously :laugh:
Umm but im not using my phone, I restored it from fabric, and i don't have anything, I'm using wifi and airplane mode, 0% brightness and the Android System at 70%
Also do i need to buy Titanium Backup to freeze them?
Edit: How much is your Android System % at??
On my samsung galaxy s ll my battery get very very hot screen gets hot I have to pull the battery out for a few mins then its ok. This happen about 3 times out of the week my brother had told me that my phone might be hacked and thats why its was doing that along with some other crazy things lol
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app
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Thx for responding, seriously :laugh:
Umm but im not using my phone, I restored it from fabric, and i don't have anything, I'm using wifi and airplane mode, 0% brightness and the Android System at 70%
Also do i need to buy Titanium Backup to freeze them?
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70% because once your not using other apps, is logic that those that you use are in the top.
Some of them run in background, thats the reason to freeze them.
RuedasLocas said:
70% because once your not using other apps, is logic that those that you use are in the top.
Some of them run in background, thats the reason to freeze them.
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Ok, i'll try that app,
Sound logic when im no using anything the System is on top of that,but it's been always like that, even if im playing GTA vice city or just isng facebook,
But i'll try to freeze those apps, and delete the LG ones
Like this guy over here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013469
um did you had this problem before?
I didn't had that problem cause it was one of the first things that I took care about since I have the phone
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I didn't had that problem cause it was one of the first things that I took care about since I have the phone
Sent from my LG-P880 using xda app-developers app
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Well thanx for all the help,
I managed to Lower that 70% to a 35-30%
Now is under my phone idle (Hope it's good news)
Also i'll start to use the gearbox in EcoMode to use only the main cores
Install the battery fix http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933099
and tomorrow i'll delete the dalvick cache :3
Also i think i put my expectations too high.. i mean it's a 4core-4.7 inch Smarthphone :9, XD alot different from my last S.E.X(Xperia)
The title is the real starting place of my issue. Out of the devices 2 GB, 1.5 GB is the average amount that is used and its really starting to impact the performance of the phone. The few things that I have tried never seem to be a more permanent solution. My Moto X is Rooted with a Sunshine Unlocked Bootloader.
Normally on my phone I have the following running in background:
tasker & Related plug ins
Xposed framework
Some widgets( Evernote, weather & Calendar)
Here is what I've tried so far:
Greenify, to help manage what apps are operating in the background.
Uninstalled a large number of my tasker plug ins
Reduced the number of Xposed plugins that I have running
Reduced the number of widgets that I have my launcher running
Here are my ideas that I have left but I don't know what it will fix.
Find an app launcher with lower RAM requirement that still meets my needs. Currently using an old version of GO Launcher I like.
Wipe the phone and start over with the stock AT&T 4.4.4 ROM.
Another possibly related issues is that I've been having apps crash often, like Touchless controls and Contacts, but when I try and send the bug report it has my own address listed instead of Motorolla's.
Icon000 said:
The title is the real starting place of my issue. Out of the devices 2 GB, 1.5 GB is the average amount that is used and its really starting to impact the performance of the phone. The few things that I have tried never seem to be a more permanent solution. My Moto X is Rooted with a Sunshine Unlocked Bootloader.
Normally on my phone I have the following running in background:
tasker & Related plug ins
Xposed framework
Some widgets( Evernote, weather & Calendar)
Here is what I've tried so far:
Greenify, to help manage what apps are operating in the background.
Uninstalled a large number of my tasker plug ins
Reduced the number of Xposed plugins that I have running
Reduced the number of widgets that I have my launcher running
Here are my ideas that I have left but I don't know what it will fix.
Find an app launcher with lower RAM requirement that still meets my needs. Currently using an old version of GO Launcher I like.
Wipe the phone and start over with the stock AT&T 4.4.4 ROM.
Another possibly related issues is that I've been having apps crash often, like Touchless controls and Contacts, but when I try and send the bug report it has my own address listed instead of Motorolla's.
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have you tried flashing a stock firmware through RSD LITE? have you tried doing a hard reset? from stock recovery? your problem sounds like that a 3rd party app has screwed up your phone... And please dont use 3rd party launchers... They cause alot of problems.
whizinc said:
have you tried flashing a stock firmware through RSD LITE?
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I was hoping to use this as a last resort
whizinc said:
have you tried doing a hard reset?
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When you say hard reset do you mean a reboot? Factory Reset? I'm not 100% sure what your talking about.
whizinc said:
your problem sounds like that a 3rd party app has screwed up your phone... And please dont use 3rd party launchers... They cause alot of problems.
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If you asking to me stick with stock launcher I don't think I can do that. There are a lot of features the stock launcher is missing like Folders that sync to folders within the App Draw, just the way they display an open folder, the ways you can organize the app folder, how you hide apps you don't use, ie keyboards and the visuals associated with the uninstall process. But if you have suggestions on how to resolve some of the feature differences I'd be interested to hear.
Icon000 said:
The title is the real starting place of my issue. Out of the devices 2 GB, 1.5 GB is the average amount that is used and its really starting to impact the performance of the phone. The few things that I have tried never seem to be a more permanent solution. My Moto X is Rooted with a Sunshine Unlocked Bootloader.
Normally on my phone I have the following running in background:
tasker & Related plug ins
Xposed framework
Some widgets( Evernote, weather & Calendar)
Here is what I've tried so far:
Greenify, to help manage what apps are operating in the background.
Uninstalled a large number of my tasker plug ins
Reduced the number of Xposed plugins that I have running
Reduced the number of widgets that I have my launcher running
Here are my ideas that I have left but I don't know what it will fix.
Find an app launcher with lower RAM requirement that still meets my needs. Currently using an old version of GO Launcher I like.
Wipe the phone and start over with the stock AT&T 4.4.4 ROM.
Another possibly related issues is that I've been having apps crash often, like Touchless controls and Contacts, but when I try and send the bug report it has my own address listed instead of Motorolla's.
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You should check the running apps in the settings also check the cached background processes.
You'll find the culprit there.
Post screenshot if possible.
It's probably Facebook or something like that
adity said:
You should check the running apps in the settings also check the cached background processes.
You'll find the culprit there.
Post screenshot if possible.
It's probably Facebook or something like that
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What would you say is a good threshold to use to consider if an app is a problem? Would you say more than 25MB? 50MB?
A screen shot isn't going to be possible until after 7 pm
Icon000 said:
What would you say is a good threshold to use to consider if an app is a problem? Would you say more than 25MB? 50MB?
A screen shot isn't going to be possible until after 7 pm
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Apps like chrome consistently use 100mb..
Otherwise 50mb
Also post screenshots man
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I was hoping to use this as a last resort
When you say hard reset do you mean a reboot? Factory Reset? I'm not 100% sure what your talking about.
If you asking to me stick with stock launcher I don't think I can do that. There are a lot of features the stock launcher is missing like Folders that sync to folders within the App Draw, just the way they display an open folder, the ways you can organize the app folder, how you hide apps you don't use, ie keyboards and the visuals associated with the uninstall process. But if you have suggestions on how to resolve some of the feature differences I'd be interested to hear.
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Take that last hope..Rsd lite your stock firmware and all your problems will be vanished.. Im sure..
A hard reset is a reset which you do thorough the Bootloader of your phone without booting to actual android home screen... Like you open your Boot loader by pressing appropriate keys and select recovery and Erase Cache and Factory reset from there... Google Hard reset and learn about it. Its really important to learn about hard reset if you own an android device..
As far as your launcher is concerned i can understand... And i dont really think that the launcher might be causing the problem... You just need an RSD LITE flash to completely wipe your phone and bring it to the factory state and make it completely fresh... I bet rsd lite flash will fix your problem because it erases the whole device and reflashes everything like boot,modem,system,kernal etc... GO FOR RSD LITE FLASH... and please take extra precautions before Flashing through RSD LITE.. because its risky if you do it in the wrong way.... Make sure to find the exact firmware of your phone which matches the carrier.. and also check the bootloader version of the firmware.. DOWNGRADING THE FIRMWARE WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE PERMANENTLY.. so always upgrade or flash the same firmware as you have now.. Take extra precautions.. Good luck..
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It is Linux based, free RAM is wasted RAM. The system will put stuff into memory as needed, and remove it as needed. The system tries to keep as much stuff in memory as possible to improve performance so it doesn't have to put it back into memory if you launch it again. It is how the Android memory killer works, and the kernel is what controls the free memory.
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It is Linux based, free RAM is wasted RAM.
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if this is true why do i have more performance issue when the ram is full? I have to wait for the phone to respond to the touches on the screen.
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if this is true why do i have more performance issue when the ram is full? I have to wait for the phone to respond to the touches on the screen.
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If that is the case, then your device is likely not freeing memory properly. Either an app is not closing properly, or you have a lot of background apps running that can't be freed from memory, or you have a rogue app killing your phone.
As he said, "free memory" will always be very low.
This is part of why people freaked out over vista... As modern kernels do, it was using most available ram for tasks that might happen because this memory can be cleared instantly. But vista actually reported this memory usage, and people freaked out, not being used to the concept. I believe they adjusted how memory was reported in 7...
Give this a read
http://serverfault.com/questions/85470/meaning-of-the-buffers-cache-line-in-the-output-of-free
If you have a terminal emulator the command "top" will show you memory usage by category so you can see not only how much is free, but how much COULD be free at a moments notice if needed. This is what you want to know.
"atop" is another version of top, it reports slightly different statistics and can be a little more readable...(it may be htop not atop, if one doesnt work try the other. They both exist but only one is prepackaged and... I forget.)
You should also be able to look at processes to see what is using up significant amounts of memory....