I see a similar question was asked but never answered.
When I go to check my storage my USB storage has 4.98gb classed as misc.
when you click misc it shows you the misc files.
4.66gb of this data comes from external_sd.
Does anyone know where I can find this with a file explorer? (or on computer)
Does anyone know why these files are put in to external_sd?
If I delete the file what will I be deleting?
My SD card seems properly mounted i.e I can access files from it play music and copy files to it.
Thanks
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I just noticed the same thing today - showing 33.5GB of misc on a USB storage with total 11.07GB space ... "Ye canny defy the laws of physics cap'n", I thought
My view is that "USB storage" is just poorly named, and it should really say "internal SD storage". The "SD card" section below that is also poorly named as it should really be named "external SD card". (note - I haven't looked at this screen while I have had a flash drive connected via "real" USB, so I'm not sure whether the bizzare naming starts making more sense in that scenario?)
Anyway, as your "external" (i.e. removable) sd card is mounted under the "internal" storage as /sdcard/external_sd, it seems the capacity on the external sd card is just being treated (in this settings/storage summary screen) as being part of the internal sd capacity.
The bit of the "USB storage" labeled "misc" is part of a colour coded bar chart of total space, nominally part of the internal SD card. It's purpose is to give a non-technical breakdown of the types of media that are occupying space (hence separate colours for "known categories" apps, audio, video, pictures etc.).
"Misc" is clearly just what they've used to cover everything else on the storage (so, designed for stuff like database files, text files and other random app data stuff that isn't easily classifiable).
As they've treated the mounted sd card as if it were part of internal SD, my guess is that it all just got too messy for the underlying script that was trying to identify and summarise media files recursively through all the sub-directories under /sdcard.
End result, they have lumped the total capavity of the external sd card into "misc" on the internal sd (whilst confusingly labeling that as "USB storage"), even though they have also itemised the same space separately down below under "SD card", without trying to display pretty coloured barcharts showing the usage profile.
In short - a total balls up of an attempt at summarising storage usage on the phone in laymans terms, but understandable once you get your head around it;; The "misc" discrepency doesn't indicate any problem ... beyond bad scripting & UI design
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Hello everyone, I'm using SGS I9000, with Darky's V10.1 ROM. I recently discovered that my memory space have become extremely low, System Storage has only 1.53GB Storage available space. However, there is a category called USB Storage, where a total space of 13.43GB, with 11.53GB available. I have no external SD card inserted.
So i go to memory usage area, and i try to shift some apps to the "usb storage", apps like angry birds, adobe reader etc, but it gives me this error message "Failed to move application. Not enough memory."
Anyone know what's wrong with my phone?
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Hello everyone, I'm using SGS I9000, with Darky's V10.1 ROM. I recently discovered that my memory space have become extremely low, System Storage has only 1.53GB Storage available space. However, there is a category called USB Storage, where a total space of 13.43GB, with 11.53GB available. I have no external SD card inserted.
So i go to memory usage area, and i try to shift some apps to the "usb storage", apps like angry birds, adobe reader etc, but it gives me this error message "Failed to move application. Not enough memory."
Anyone know what's wrong with my phone?
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you have 2 SD in your SGS, one internal and one external
The problem is, i don't have 2 SD in my SGS right now. There's only the internal one, and there is no external sd card inserted in my phone. How can it be possible that my internal memory space has only 1.53GB space left when i don't have much stuffs installed at all?
i9000 has 3 different storages Eg : 16GB
2GB - Phone Storage (ROM)
14GB - Internal SD (Internal Storage)
XGB - External SD (renamed to USB Storage)
Normally the applications are installed in Phone Storage. Don't know why cannot move to "Internal Storage". Only can move to "USB Storage".
Thanks for the clarification, does that mean the internal SD is totally useless? Or just for you to store music/pictures ETC?
I have the same problem: my phone has the orange sd card on the slide down menu which say "internal memory full"
I have no apps other then a timer, a virusscanner and whatsapp and then all the apps that come with the phone. All the files I have on the phone I have stored on the external SD.
I deleted all my sms messages, whatsapp chats and I even uninstalled whatsapp to make sure that it's not that, but it still says my internal memory is full.
When I look at the apps, Thinkfree is the biggest program on it with 9mb, followed by Adobe Reader with 8mb.
What can be done? I have this phone for not even 6 months now and I'm ready to brick the phone but by this I mean: throw a f*cking brick on it!
Why the hell won't my phone save my songs from Spotify, my photos from Vignette, videos from the camcorder, and anything other data the apps create??
Where the hell is the option to save on SD card?
Simmah down.
The actual SD card is mapped as /sdcard-ext/ in the filesystem. The /sdcard/ mount point is the internal storage. Apps need to be written so you can choose the storage location, and this will only be a larger problem going forward because as internal storage space goes up, more and more manufacturers will be doing this.
The built-in camera app does ask if you want to use the real SD card when you put one in and load the program.
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The actual SD card is mapped as /sdcard-ext/ in the filesystem. The /sdcard/ mount point is the internal storage. Apps need to be written so you can choose the storage location, and this will only be a larger problem going forward because as internal storage space goes up, more and more manufacturers will be doing this.
The built-in camera app does ask if you want to use the real SD card when you put one in and load the program.
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Yeah, see I use Vignette so that doesn't help... geez.
Guess I'll have to make sure the main camera app is at least on SD card storage. I don't remember if the video files are automatically saving to the SD card (I did notice the SD-ext difference and figured that was the external vs internal memory).
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Yeah, see I use Vignette so that doesn't help... geez.
Guess I'll have to make sure the main camera app is at least on SD card storage. I don't remember if the video files are automatically saving to the SD card (I did notice the SD-ext difference and figured that was the external vs internal memory).
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If they're not being stored to the external on the stock app, boot the phone without the SD card in the phone, launch the camera app, then shut the phone down. Pop the SD card back in, boot up and launch the camera app again. It should say as soon as you launch that a new SD card is found and ask if you want to use it.
Going forward, /sdcard-ext/ is going to be more common on more phones, so app developers need to start providing an option for where users want to store data files. I'd contact the Vignette developers (they're pretty responsive) and let them know that they need to add a feature to choose the storage location of saved pics because most likely all Motorola devices will be set up this way going forward, with other manufacturers following.
The partitioning on the droid 4 is kinda annoying me. I really don't like mnt/sdcard being internal storage and my actual sd card being mnt/sdcard-ext. Will the have to be fixed with a rom, or can it be changed on stock somehow?
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I was annoyed at that too until I understood the reasons behind it.
Here are the storage locations and what they are for:
/system
This is were the System ROM storage is
I don't recall the size on the original Droid, the size on the Droid 4 is 667MB.
/data
This is the internal memory for internal apps and data.
This is used on the Original Droid and the Droid 4.
On the Original Droid it's 300MB in size and on the Droid 4 it's 3.22GB in size.
/mnt/sdcard
On the Droid 4 this is a partition that is 8.59 GB in size.
By having the main storage for user data like Photos, Music, etc. be a separate partition you then have an internal storage place that you can mount on the computer via USB and organize via file managers.
Thus you don't need an external SD card for the Droid 4 like you did with the Original Droid to have 1GB+ storage space and the ability to mount it via USB to the computer.
The Droid 4 settings shows this partition as a "Media Area" referencing the usage of putting media like music, photos, videos, etc. on it.
On of the down side to this is features like MoveToSD put apps in this "Media Area" instead of the real SD card.
On the Original Droid this partition was not there so to keep compatibility with existing apps, it's mounted at /mnt/sdcard instead of say /mnt/MediaArea.
/mnt/sdcard-ext
This is where the real SD Card is due to the above path being used as a "Media Area".
I'm not sure weather the decision to make a "Media Area" was something Google did with Android 2.3.3 or if Motorola did it but I suspect it was something Google did with Android as from what I've read online other manufacturers do this too though it appears others use different mount points like Samsung apparently uses /mnt/sdcard/sd for the location of the real SD Card.
Motorola has an API for apps to get this path if they want to use the actual SD Card and all the built-in MotoBlur apps use this path.
So if you want to use an SD Card you need an app that supports getting the actual SD Card.
You probably can change the paths via updating the fstab file or creating a symlink but if want both paths that will just create problems.
If both /mnt/sdcard and /mnt/sdcard-ext are mounted then MotoBlur apps and apps using Motorola's API will expect the SD Card to be at /mnt/sdcard-ext so if you decided to switch the mount points around and have the real SD Card at /mnt/sdcard and the "Media Area" at /mnt/sdcard-ext then those apps would be storing data on the "Media Area" not the sdcard.
You could try to somehow change the fstab file to mount the real sdcard at /mnt/sdcard and replace /mnt/sdcard-ext with a symlink to /mnt/sdcard so all apps look at the real SD card but then you can not access the 8GB of storage in the "Media Area" partition.
So the safest thing to do is to just keep things the way they are and either:
1. Use the "Media Area" and no real SD Card (This is what I'm doing as the 8GB is enough space at the moment).
2. Tell applications that have the option to use the /mnt/sdcard-ext mount point when you want them to go to the real SD Card.
The MotoBlur apps like "My Gallery" support this, Titanium Backup knows about the two mount points and can be switched and File Management Apps usually let you pick the directory they display when you open them so you can set it to the /mnt/sdcard-ext mount point.
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My file system is totally confused. When I browse to EMMC from a file manager it goes to my SD Card. If I browse to SD Card it actually goes to the internal drive.
I've had my rooted Nook Color for about 5 weeks now (CM7 booted from a SD card). Everything was working great until I tried installing some different launchers. I tried GoLauncher, Zeam, ICS, Honeycomb and maybe one more. The default was ADW. Maybe I confused the system by constantly switching from one to the next but at some point the system crashed and I rebooted.
Once rebooted I noticed that many of the games I installed told me I needed to redownload their data files. I looked on my card, through my Mac, but the original files were still there. Turns out the Nook now installs apps on the internal drive rather than the card as it had been before.
Wouldn't be so bad but, as mentioned earlier, the file system is confused. When i need to manage files I've loaded on my SD card I have to browse to EMMC and vice versa. Makes my head spin.
Is there a way to fix it without starting from scratch? I'm using CM7.2.0.
Thanks for your help
That's not a bug, it's a feature. Anyway, what you likely did is Settings -> Cyanogenmod Settings -> Application Settings -> Use internal storage (checked). If you do this, then it swaps the mount points for the SD and the internal memory, so the SD card is mounted at "/emmc" and the internal memory is mounted at "/sdcard". See the first post in the thread in my sig for more information about this.
If you really want to return it to the original way, wasting 5G of internal storage space, then you can uncheck that box in the settings and it'll go back to normal.
Thanks for pointing that out and glad to see there's an easy fix. Seems a bit confusing though, like it's renaming your hard drives or something. I had been using the internal drive for storing media files, video, music, comics. Does it matter where apps or files are stored?
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Thanks for pointing that out and glad to see there's an easy fix. Seems a bit confusing though, like it's renaming your hard drives or something. I had been using the internal drive for storing media files, video, music, comics. Does it matter where apps or files are stored?
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Well, the "fix", IMHO, is to leave it with them swapped.
Yes, it matters where apps are stored and it matters what is mounted at /sdcard. Apps use space on the /sdcard partition for settings, temp storage, downloads, etc. Mounting that 5G partition at /sdcard instead of /emmc allows these apps to use that space rather than cluttering your actual SD card. And apps are going to wind up on your 1G partition, not on either the /sdcard or /emmc mountpoint.
You can go read up in my guide on my recommendation on how to best use this space. The normal way is inefficient and wasteful of internal memory, IMHO. But you know, maybe you like it that way
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You can go read up in my guide on my recommendation on how to best use this space. The normal way is inefficient and wasteful of internal memory, IMHO. But you know, maybe you like it that way
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I think efficiency is more in how you choose to utilise the spaces rather than fundamentally in which switch option you use. For example, I choose to completely fill the 5GB of internal with sound and picture media as they get included in the normal app scanning process. Leaving the SD card to hold yet more media, app data and back ups.
It's still good to have the choice offered by the switch.
Ok first off sorry if this has been asked before. (The Auto "Simular Threads" Pop-up were NOT Device specific enough for me).
This being the Samsung Galaxy Tab (GT-P1000) Board, the question is only about this that Device. The question being...
Is it possible to move the useless and dead 12.83GB (of "Internal Storage" i.e. Internal SD Card), to the proper Internal Storage (e.g. The default App Directory), which currently only has ~1.4GB of useable Storage, and is now not only quite full... But is starting to really lag hard now.
I never quite understood the need for Internal SD (or by whatever means its called on your Device). when we had proper External Storage. (e.g. 32GB MicoSD). Which IIRC was also pretty much useless. Sans Movies, and or MP3 Files.
But, I'd really love to repartition as much of that useless Internal SD to the Internal Memory as I can by using modified EBR 1&2 files on other Mediatek style Devices.
So is this possible?
Thx