I recently flashed my P1000 with both Cm9 & AOKP Roms, after a quick installation of both Roms, i decided to AOKP rom as it seemed to offer more features and a secondary launcher which i found quite useful.
My question is in comparing the two roms, what are the main differences and features of each rom? Given that people are clearly fond of both.
I've that the Usb host Control apparently works using a Y cable in the Cm9 Rom,
I've read through AOKP rom thread where this feature is barely if even mentioned.
i am planning on getting a female converter next week to test this and am hoping i can stay on the AOKP rom but if not the Usb host feature might swing me.
Can someone spread some light on this thread please.
Since you are getting the cable anyway, why not you try and let us know if AOKP works with that.
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I sure will do that Though it does say on the 1st page of Cm9 USB HOST works with Y cable and nothing related to USB hosting in AOKP thread, though i read the kernels were merged, so as well as trying to find out if AOKP supports USB hosting, i am wanting to find out what features Cm9 has that AOKP doesnt and visa versa.
Yeah, the "secondary" features such as USB host and TV out are not tested/mentioned in AOKP.
We need more users to feedback.
As for direct features comparison, it is also hard. Each gas their tweaks.
But AOKP allow me to toggle off the navbar completely easily even in the middle of a game.
That is superb.
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I will be sure to add my feedback once tested, im hoping to to get a mouse and keyboard working on a Usb hub, but not sure if they can both be run at the same time, hopefully they can.
TV-out also brings up some interesting questions, as far as i know TV-out isnt working on the either builds, however i cant confirm that since i dont have a TV-out cable, and reading it doesn't work has made me somewhat reluctant to get one. Possibly someone else could confirm the workings of the TV-out as this is another feature which i am interested in.
The Tweaks part is also interesting as i understand each Rom has its little Tweaks which are hard to pin point, but that is somewhat what i am hoping to do with these questions.
AOKP rom control seems to have quite a few more options than the cm9 builds, I found the option to change music tracks via volume buttons was a really nice touch.. I would love a option for a LED torch as well but i dont think that feature is working in either builds.
I thought Humberos got HDMI Out working for CM9.
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Tv out is working on Cm9, but sound is not working through the RCA cable.
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Thanks for replies ; It would seem Cm9 is offering secondary features such as
USB hosting & TV out and possibly a few others which are yet to be mentioned.
I am unaware if AOKP currently supports these secondary/hardware related features. I have read that the kernels were merged but am unaware if the merging has brought these features though, It would be awesome if they have been.
Regarding TV-Out on Cm9 ~ If it is working in Cm9 i assume you mean only the HDMI cable is working with sound and the RCA with video and no sound?
More like it works completely using HDMI pin out.
As for RCA cable only video.
Something like that.
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I take it the TV-Out feature is untested on AOKP but confirmed on Cm9 with pin out cable, As well as the Usb host.
These seem like 2 solid features cm9 is offering that AOKP currently isn't, hopefully the TV-out will be implemented into in the near coming future. I will update the status on USB hosting hopefully later this week.
Stimpz0r just announced AOKP #40
Tv-out working.
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That truly is awesome news Seems like all the features are being integrated Between the two.. thanks for the update..i will now reconsider getting a HDMI cable along with a USB converter.
UPDATE ~ ON USB HOSTING
Usb hosting is somewhat currently working on AOKP.
I currently have my Tab wired up to a Usb hub, where i can view my 8gb memory stick and mount it.. I am also able to pick up my Cannon camera, however i cannot mount it.
Keyboard and mouse are not detected, though i think to get this working i need to try a different wiring method.
Question ~ I would like to know if anyone has got a mouse and keyboard working on a Hub ? on AOKP or CM9 as i think its the hub which causes a issue in this area, meaning as i currently stand i need to get a different configured Y cable.
USB Host Capability P1000
Awology said:
UPDATE ~ ON USB HOSTING
Usb hosting is somewhat currently working on AOKP.
I currently have my Tab wired up to a Usb hub, where i can view my 8gb memory stick and mount it.. I am also able to pick up my Cannon camera, however i cannot mount it.
Keyboard and mouse are not detected, though i think to get this working i need to try a different wiring method.
Question ~ I would like to know if anyone has got a mouse and keyboard working on a Hub ? on AOKP or CM9 as i think its the hub which causes a issue in this area, meaning as i currently stand i need to get a different configured Y cable.
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Hi sir, kindly share which thread for the Y cable configuration, ROM and kernel. I cant seem to find these threads.
Thank you
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Hello everyone. Just picked up a second-hand SGS - best phone I ever had!
Anyway, so far I'm still on stock 2.2.1. What I'm looking for is a ROM that supports both TV-Out (3.5mm to RCA) and the Wiimote / Classic Controller / Datel Wireless Retro Controller.
Together, they'd make the SGS the perfect retro gaming console.
I know CM7 supports the Wiimote, but not TV-Out. I know most other ROMs support TV-Out, but not the Wiimote.
So is there any possibility to have both yet?
If not, would it be hard to do?
Maybe copy the Bluetooth implementation over from the Nexus?
Or any chance that the TV-Out will work on CM7?
I hope those are legitimate questions. Looking forward to your input.
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Hello everyone. Just picked up a second-hand SGS - best phone I ever had!
Anyway, so far I'm still on stock 2.2.1. What I'm looking for is a ROM that supports both TV-Out (3.5mm to RCA) and the Wiimote / Classic Controller / Datel Wireless Retro Controller.
Together, they'd make the SGS the perfect retro gaming console.
I know CM7 supports the Wiimote, but not TV-Out. I know most other ROMs support TV-Out, but not the Wiimote.
So is there any possibility to have both yet?
If not, would it be hard to do?
Maybe copy the Bluetooth implementation over from the Nexus?
Or any chance that the TV-Out will work on CM7?
I hope those are legitimate questions. Looking forward to your input.
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I did a lot of searching on the web and cm7 is the only way i know off.
I would kill for tv output and wiimote support both in a rom.
Does anyone know if Darky's ROM (preferably the newest one) would rectify the problem with the BT that stops Wiimotes from working?
any progress?
I've not tested it, but I think the tv-out is working on cm7, maybe not completely nor perfectly but you should look for more informations in the CM7 Q&A thread.
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I've not tested it, but I think the tv-out is working on cm7, maybe not completely nor perfectly but you should look for more informations in the CM7 Q&A thread.
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I follow the CM7 development forum closely (as well as using the ROM). TV-OUT is not yet implemented.
I *suspect* that it is being worked on but there are no ETA's.
Well I follow the CM7 development forum closely too, and I think I've read some time ago that the tv-out was working, but there is no settings yet (like there is nothing in the menus about it).
But maybe my memory is not as good as it used to be, as I can't find the post in the thread.
All roms sans CM7, MIUI (based on CM7) and the sense port use samsungs bluetooth stack, which is incompatible with the wiimote. Yes, this includes your beloved Darky ROM. CM7 has basic TV-out support but it isn't fully supported yet. Your best bet is to wait it out for CM7 to support it. I can't wait for wiimote + TV-Out either xD
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CM7 has basic TV-out support but it isn't fully supported yet.
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That's what I thought but I couldn't find the source of the info anymore. Maybe you can help me to find where I've read that ?
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I have been using the Honeycomb Hybrid - RC1 ROM from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062626 for a couple of weeks now. I really like it; except for the SD card being a bit of a pain to load. I am just wondering if this ROM is dead or still in development!? I guess I could move on to another ROM; just really like this one... Or if anyone is using another Honeycomb one that they really like that they could recommend... I am pretty much a noob when it comes to this stuff; only had my Nook Color for about a month.
Unfortunately, since there is no source code available for Honeycomb (HC), there is limited development work ... just patching of the SDK image to try to get features to work.
I originally used the Honeycomb (HC) ROM by Deeper Blue because it was the sanctioned "tablet" UI (eventually I tried the HC Hybrid you're running) ... But once I used CM7, I haven't been disappointed.
I prefer some of the Honeycomb features such as the landscape lockscreen and split screen interface of apps like GMail and Settings.
Unfortunately the full potential of the device can't utilized since there is no source code.
Great work by Deeper-Blue, Divine_Madcat, and others on the Honeycomb "port"!
CM7, on the other hand, makes the nookColor a fully functional tablet!
Even fully exploits the hardware: bluetooth, flash, great video, and now USB Host support (connect USB devices via the USB port at the bottom)!
I'd suggest you give CM7 a try. My $.02
hmmm I had been wondering about CM7... Yea I am really curious to see how this puppy is as a fully functional tablet.... it has quite a few kinks in the HC Hybrid I am using...and seems to freeze quite a bit. I really like how my Gmail looks with the split sceen...
I will give CM7 a try off the SD card to see how it is....
Thanks Kem....your reply was very helpful...
There are a couple of different threads talking about Honeycomb, (i.e. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093521 ) but for the most part, its just a patch work of different things to kind of getting it working. It does run, and it is beautiful, but there are a lot of little things to overlook, kinks and bugs and other things that just agrivate me and ruin the experience. I went back to CM7 and am using the nightlies with Dalingrin's latest OC kernel and tools. Stable with out any issue. When it comes down to it.... it just works. If you want to give it a shot, by all means, flash Honey Comb, but do give CM7 a try, is the way to go for now.
I'm find have to agree. I was stoked to try Honeycomb when I got my nook, but CM7 is just more functional. Can't wait forty ICS tho.
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Is there any way to display 3D games with the HDMI cable facing upward? I am gonna get a 3D TV soon and would love it if the screen on my phone would be oriented so the HDMI cable wouldn't be near my left palm.
Thank you!
What? I suppose you could look for a right-angle adapter online.
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I think the question involves the ability to rotate the device to the opposite landscape orientation. I know cyanogenmod allows any orientation, but the Self-KANG build doesn't support 3d yet. You may need to wait until a developer builds a ROM for our machine that allows any direction auto-orientation.
Some third-party launchers allow this functionality, but such would not give you that ability while playing a game. Have you tried flashing some of the custom ROMs that our dedicated hackers have been building in our Development forum?
Once you've tried a few and find one comfortable for you, try requesting full orientation functionality from the Dec that's building your favorite ROM.
If you are looking to get your feet wet with some ROM testing, I suggest Thrill Seeker. It's bugless as far as I have noticed, and it's more up to date than Thriller.
Good luck, and happy hacking!
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As far as i am aware the games themselves pick the orientation...
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It is the only thing that stops me from using CM9 ROMS... I'm using these features almost daily.
well the rom itself is very stable and very good, I'm very happy with it, although i'm waiting for the HDMI Support too... but yes, MHL is one of that "nice to have" features, I suppose that they will add it to the rom after they'll fix some other serious bugs and problems.
but since samsung already released the KERNEL source code maybe someone can take that MHL code lines and add it to CM9 kernel? I suppose it's not that easy as you and me think it is...
well, lets wait for it... after all, this is the best AOSP rom ever
Looks like the Thor kernel has the MHL code/module now... so just userland to port or replicate (license issues for CMx?) I guess.
Hey folks,
I'm thinking about to build a ROM for people that use their Nexus 7 in their car.
Actually a ROM build for a built-in Nexus 7.
Does anybody like this idea? If yes,
- Should this rom be AOSP, Paranoid Android, PAC, Cyanogenmod, AOKP, ... based?
- Which apps should be included? (ODBTorque, OTA Updater, Navigon, ...)
All ideas are welcome!
If you do, there are alot of things to consider. the biggest, being otg host mode charging. A few more are usb dac drivers, landscape-able media players, modded shortcuts for easily accessible volume control..... There is actually alot more than most would suspect. Not to mention the issue of correct sleep/wake modifications.
All that said, I hope you do carry through with this, as it will be alot of work. Timur has a rom "USBROM" and kernel which provide all these things, and is geared primarily towards in dash and other fixed install options. You might give it a good study to get ideas on how to proceed with your own creation.
"What do you tell a man with two black eyes? Nothing. He has already been told twice."
Why not just use a car app? My personal favorite is CarHome Ultra.
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Why not just use a car app? My personal favorite is CarHome Ultra.
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Because if it is a fixed install in which the charger port is not accessible, then just an app wont get it done. Especially if you intend to use things like odb, usbdac (which is crucial in a dash install), and other external components.
"What do you tell a man with two black eyes? Nothing. He has already been told twice."
Take a look at Timur's USB ROM if you have not already. I believe that's what most of us are using since he has implemented some amazing things like otg while charging and even fast charging while in otg mode!
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To the above, I think this is the ROM I had in mind.
I was going to say theirs a dev already working on a Car Dedicated ROM, perhaps the OP could help contribute to that? Get a really unique and useful CAR ROM made?
Interesting....
but I think it's wrong form post in Android development section instead