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Keyboard Case Under $10!

I ordered http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OB0EBQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 in hopes it'd work with my Nexus 7... and it works beautifully. $9.48 shipped isn't a bad deal!

speednub said:
I ordered http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OB0EBQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00 in hopes it'd work with my Nexus 7... and it works beautifully. $9.48 shipped isn't a bad deal!
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Nice, usb to micro adaptor?

Doesn't make sense why they just slapped on a normal USB and not just added a small micro USB connector. Honestly they could have integrated the cable behind the screen and used a 90 degree micro USB to make a fairly seamless design.

yup!
I agree. But it's china made, and i think its totally worth it for the price.

Is there a way to conceal the USB cables? I'm looking for a case with a keyboard but I don't want it to look that jumbled

speednub said:
yup!
I agree. But it's china made, and i think its totally worth it for the price.
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Except there's no way to connect it on it's own.

redmonke255 said:
Doesn't make sense why they just slapped on a normal USB and not just added a small micro USB connector. Honestly they could have integrated the cable behind the screen and used a 90 degree micro USB to make a fairly seamless design.
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i bought the same case and it arrived already. havent got my nexus yet but it should arrive next week. the case works with my galaxy note though. its not a bad case, but its not a full size keyboard, so the keys are a bit smaller and squished together. it has decent tactility when typing, and overall is quite usable for a portable keyboard case. it can take a while to adapt to it if you're normally used to a full size keyboard.
the only major gripe i have with mine is that the keys are recessed, not raised. so for people like me, who normally use the side of their thumb for the spacebar, you may find that you'll keep hitting leather unless you raise their hands to tap the spacebar.
i'll probably only use it when im out and about or when im at work. when im at home, i can just hook up my ducky cherry red mechanical keyboard via usb on the go for full backlit fullsized keyboard goodness. but i feel like this keyboard case is $10 well spent.
oh and the reason why they didnt have it going straight to microusb is to maintain compatibility with other devices that may have their own proprietary connectors and devices that have a full sized usb port. this way, they'll only need to give you a different adapter cable (usb on the go) rather than having to mass produce different keyboards with different cables. ive got a right angled usb on the go adapter so it doesnt look as bad as the one in the pics previously posted.
overall i'd give the case a 7 out of 10. its fairly decent quality for the price, and does a good job of turning a tablet (or a phablet like my galaxy note) into a netbook. it doesnt have the backup battery function or usb ports or tight fit that you would see in the keyboard dock of the asus transformer series, but considering the price, would you really expect it to?

How good does the case hold the Nexus? It looks to only have through grapple points, but surely the Nexus could just slide out.
I will be moving around a bit with the nexus, and have it in my bag, etc.
I would hate to drop it....

specwarop said:
How good does the case hold the Nexus? It looks to only have through grapple points, but surely the Nexus could just slide out.
I will be moving around a bit with the nexus, and have it in my bag, etc.
I would hate to drop it....
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the grabble points are fairly stiff. from the way they feel, i believe theyre metal (probably aluminium as they are bendable with a bit of effort) coated in leather. The top grapple point is also aluminium coated in leather and it is also spring loaded to hold it in place and to allow it to be adjustable for different width tablets. because of the spring, the clamping force is at its peak when the top grapple point is at its highest, but i probably wouldnt rely on that alone to hold a device in place if you place it in a bag that you tend to throw around a lot. if you wrap your nexus in a TPU or silicone case before putting it in this case, then that will assist in keeping the device in place a bit better. the grip would be better if these grapple points were coated in TPU or silicone instead, but its good enough for the price.
but this is from my experimenting with my galaxy note though. according to google, my nexus 7 should arrive sometime this week so i wont be able to provide you guys with more hands on info until later this week.

I purchased this after reading about it here. I am actually slightly impressed with the idea; typing on a keyboard that small isn't the best idea, but it is also not that bad. As long as I remember to type a bit slower than I want to try to type, I can do rather well -- and the keys are a bit mushy regardless.
The clip doesn't hold the Nexus 7 in very well at all, though; one of my photos shows how you can just slide it in and out. Also, it is giant -- bigger than the Nexus 7 in all dimensions, and 3 or 4 times as thick altogether when closed (with the Nexus 7 inside.) However -- it was only $10. I might pull it apart and tinker with it later; for this price, I regret nothing, but wouldn't really recommend it.
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USB keyboard for Nexus 7

Since we've only had our tablets for a short time, I might be a little premature in asking but has anyone used any of these USB keyboards with the N7? If so, if the tablet is placed on the stand in portrait mode, does the cable reach the USB port? I assume they're not full-travel keys but do people find them ok for touch typing? Do any of them suck the battery or are they usable for hours at a time?
Does anyone have any recommendations for better keyboards?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Afunta-Tabl...2OF4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343181250&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Leather-Key...XMEO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1343181250&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HDE-Tablet-...0EBQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1343181250&sr=8-5
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Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard. If I were you I would get one of the following:
http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Univer...768&sr=8-12&keywords=bluetooth+keyboard+stand
(This is what i purchased ---->) http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLE...183895&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=zagg+keys+flex
(There's a review on this keyboard on this forum. You can get this on eBay for $30) http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tabl...5&sr=1-2&keywords=logitech+bluetooth+keyboard
I hope i helped. The problem with cheap keyboard cases is that a lot of times they don't work. Sometimes you get what you pay for.
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Nxxx said:
Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard.
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I think the cases he linked actually would work -- I have one that looks identical, and is indeed functional, though the Nexus tends to slide out the sides of the case.
However, I think you are right; you DO get what you pay for. The keys are bit mushy and so on, the case is huge, etc. Hey, for the price, it might be worth it, though I wouldn't recommend it. I don't have any regrets either, though.

Have a few questions on keyboards I hope someone can help with.
On the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android. Logitech's website is quite clear that the iPad version is incompatible with the Android version. Has anyone tried? The Android one isn't too easy to get in the UK (well not reasonably priced) but the iPad one is.
Any first hand experience of the Logitech versus the Motorola Xoom keyboard? I like the Logitech case/stand thingy but past that both keyboards are the same size so which is better?
And back to the Logitech, any recommended UK suppliers?

Jelster said:
Have a few questions on keyboards I hope someone can help with.
On the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android. Logitech's website is quite clear that the iPad version is incompatible with the Android version. Has anyone tried? The Android one isn't too easy to get in the UK (well not reasonably priced) but the iPad one is.
Any first hand experience of the Logitech versus the Motorola Xoom keyboard? I like the Logitech case/stand thingy but past that both keyboards are the same size so which is better?
And back to the Logitech, any recommended UK suppliers?
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I'm in the same boat - was looking to get an Asus Pad Infinity upon release, but tempted by the Nexus 7 + Logitech combo instead.
Now I'd just need to secure the keyboard in the UK and I'm good to go...!

Jelster said:
Have a few questions on keyboards I hope someone can help with.
On the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android. Logitech's website is quite clear that the iPad version is incompatible with the Android version. Has anyone tried? The Android one isn't too easy to get in the UK (well not reasonably priced) but the iPad one is.
And back to the Logitech, any recommended UK suppliers?
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I ideally want a keyboard/case combo but everything seems to have too small a keyboard for my liking (I put it down to the size of the Nexus 7). I have seen the Logitech stuff mentioned a few times and I am interested in it although I haven't found anything online. I've been using Logitech computer accessories for years (mouse/keyboard/speakers etc) and I'm always impressed with the build quality and performance. I have an unfortunate habit of not buying cheaper accessories as now I can afford better products and I have experienced the "buy cheap, buy twice" too many times to warrant shelling out £15-£20 on a case that doesn't fit properly or has sub standard build quality. After all, I'm going to be putting a £200 tablet in it.

Nxxx said:
Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard. If I were you I would get one of the following:
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I would guess none of the keyboards the OP linked would cause any lag at all, since they are all attached to the tablet via USB/OTB
the ones that you link are bluetooth keyboards, which vary in performance greatly.

(The OP here...)
I'd go with the Logitech if there wasn't any lag. I expect a powered BT keyboard would use less of the N7's battery than a USB one. And though the BT keyboard's battery would only last a few hours, I'm sure that would suffice for my use case.
I'd be surprised if Logitech don't bring this keyboard to the UK. They'd miss a lot of sales, IMO.
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Nxxx said:
Not trying to burst your bubble, but i don't think any of those will work with N7. When getting keyboards, I would go for name brand items because you don't want a laggy keyboard.
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actually, they all work. ive got one of them, and it works fine.
pretty much any usb keyboard will work. my thermaltake meka g unit with its cherry black mechanical switches works fine, as does my ducky shine with cherry red mechanical switches and full led backlit powered from the nexus 7 via usb. no notable lag, they all work as expected.

You don't have to buy a keyboard case to get a nice USB keyboard for the tablet. Just about any USB keyboard will work fine as long as you have a USB OTG cable.
That said I also have the Logitech Bluetooth keyboard, and it's one of the best slim keyboards, tablet or otherwise, that I have used. I haven't seen any lag so far, though if you sit really far away from the tablet I suppose you could introduce some signal issues. Usually if your keyboard is lagging, it's either a software issue or the batteries are going dead.

The Logitech keyboard seems pretty nice, but isn't it a bit large for pairing with a 7" tab?

joamiq said:
The Logitech keyboard seems pretty nice, but isn't it a bit large for pairing with a 7" tab?
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You wouldn't want a 7" keyboard to go with it, trust me. It does look a little awkward at first to have the keyboard wider than the tablet in landscape, but no more awkward than the promotional photos of the iPad and its portrait keyboard dock.
I used to have an Asus TF101, and even as a 10" tab the keyboard dock was really cramped, and the keys were about 10% smaller than normal so that they would fit. With the Logitech keyboard you get full size keys, so it feels more natural to type on.

earlyberd said:
You wouldn't want a 7" keyboard to go with it, trust me. It does look a little awkward at first to have the keyboard wider than the tablet in landscape, but no more awkward than the promotional photos of the iPad and its portrait keyboard dock.
I used to have an Asus TF101, and even as a 10" tab the keyboard dock was really cramped, and the keys were about 10% smaller than normal so that they would fit. With the Logitech keyboard you get full size keys, so it feels more natural to type on.
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Yeah, a 7" keyboard would probably be too small to be useful. The Zagg keyboard though looks like it might be a nice compromise. I'm leaning towards that one, as it seems small enough to stick into a large pocket and to fit on, say, an airplane tray table if needed, but big enough that you could type on it for a little while before it got uncomfortable. How portable would you say the Logitech one is?

joamiq said:
Yeah, a 7" keyboard would probably be too small to be useful. The Zagg keyboard though looks like it might be a nice compromise. I'm leaning towards that one, as it seems small enough to stick into a large pocket and to fit on, say, an airplane tray table if needed, but big enough that you could type on it for a little while before it got uncomfortable. How portable would you say the Logitech one is?
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I'd say it's portable enough for most people. It's about the same dimensions as the Zagg keyboard. If you have a full size keyboard somewhere nearby, you can do a good comparison by just measuring the width from the left edge of the left Shift key to the right edge of the right Shift key. That's how wide the Logitech keyboard is, and it's about the same height from the bottom of the space bar to the top of the Function keys on standard keyboards.

Anyone using a stylus on their Nexus 7?

what is the difference between these so called Samsung Galaxy Note Pen
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NYAHD4/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=itemasin0f-20&adid=1QAB4P8XS0A3TRDHSKEY
versus these dollar stylus?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0075IQKYA...questasin-20&camp=0&adid=0MYMVG22DXMJ5QDJVJMK
i haven't used a stylus since my old wm pda and palm pilot days, but now i see people with galaxy note scribbling stuff on their phone i am tempted to try it out again
my guts telling me i should just get those cheap ones, but wants some opinion from you fellas

testaccount said:
what is the difference between these so called Samsung Galaxy Note Pen
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NYAHD4/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=itemasin0f-20&adid=1QAB4P8XS0A3TRDHSKEY
versus these dollar stylus?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0075IQKYA...questasin-20&camp=0&adid=0MYMVG22DXMJ5QDJVJMK
i haven't used a stylus since my old wm pda and palm pilot days, but now i see people with galaxy note scribbling stuff on their phone i am tempted to try it out again
my guts telling me i should just get those cheap ones, but wants some opinion from you fellas
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First, that's not a Samsung Galaxy NOTE stylus. That's a Samsung Galaxy Tab stylus which is an entirely different technology. The Note's stylus is an active stylus capable of things like pressure sensitive writing with a fine tip (as opposed to the other sausage-tipped styli that just pretend they're your finger).
As far as the difference between the ones you point out go.... performance varies from person to person and device to device, so you've really just got to try some and see if they work well with the Nexus and your particular writing style. Just make sure that the tip is firm enough that the body of the pen can't hit the screen while you write.
And if you're hoping that writing with any capacitive stylus will be just like writing with a real pen....then neither of them will be good for you since they can't handle that type of precision (you usually need to write large letters that programs shrink down). The type of styli used with the Galaxy Note are the only ones that can actually handle this, but there aren't any for use with the Nexus.

I'm using the Kensington Virtuoso Touch, there are a couple of threads on this forum giving links to reviews of various styluses that tell you why the better ones are 'better'.

I'm using these (In the picture) with my Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 which both have xtreme guard screen protectors on them. They work perfectly. They aren't pressure sensitive or anything extravagant like that, but they write well and draw well. That's what I was looking for. I like that I can lose them and it doesn't matter since they are dirt cheap.
I purchased these in an 8 pack. 4 Large and 4 small for my phone. They are all identical in build quality which is good. Made out of aluminum.
I also own a few other stylus (Bamboo, Cosmonaut) which are good but compared to price/performance for me, these are the best I've used.
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randpost said:
I'm using these (In the picture) with my Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 which both have xtreme guard screen protectors on them. They work perfectly. They aren't pressure sensitive or anything extravagant like that, but they write well and draw well. That's what I was looking for. I like that I can lose them and it doesn't matter since they are dirt cheap.
I purchased these in an 8 pack. 4 Large and 4 small for my phone. They are all identical in build quality which is good. Made out of aluminum.
I also own a few other stylus (Bamboo, Cosmonaut) which are good but compared to price/performance for me, these are the best I've used.
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Got the one on the right from the dollar tree. Work great with 7note for a "keyboard", evernote for note taking/syncing, and skitch for pictures with evernote.
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Im using one I got from the pound shop its brilliant..

Yea don't waste your money on a stylus outside of a few bucks. I almost purchased a $20 stylus at Microcenter then while checking out, they had the exact same one for $3. I tested both and both felt the same.
Outside of acting like I can draw anything good on a tablet (or on paper for that matter) they are a fad. I also don't take notes with a pen.
Just invest money in a good keyboard from the market and practice thumb typing. Or buy a little Bluetooth thumb keyboard off eBay for $5 which also doubles as a handy gamepad for emulators.
Capacitive screens just aren't good for fine tuned motor skills required for writing. The tablets that have pens like the Note use a combination of technologies that let it be much more precise.
I also think the pens come separate and cost a good chunck of change (~$50?). The HTC Flyer does it that way. I just can't see writing with a stylus on a 5" screen.
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http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...nref-20&qid=1343568905&sr=8-5&keywords=stylus
thanks for all the replies, i went with this one at the end, not too expensive also not the dollar cheapo ones
figured that amazon's own brand is worth a few bucks, hope it is as good as the reviews

testaccount said:
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...nref-20&qid=1343568905&sr=8-5&keywords=stylus
thanks for all the replies, i went with this one at the end, not too expensive also not the dollar cheapo ones
figured that amazon's own brand is worth a few bucks, hope it is as good as the reviews
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Wow, that's a whole lotta box for shipping an itty bitty stylus! :cyclops:

player911 said:
Outside of acting like I can draw anything good on a tablet (or on paper for that matter) they are a fad. I also don't take notes with a pen.
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I don't know... I have lots of things I could use a fine tipped accurate stylus for. The biggest issue I see for things like the Note and the Note Tab is app support.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

the only thing that i can think of using a stylus is drawsomething, at least for now

I just ordered this one just to test. For $1.69 and free shipping, I wouldn't really care if it doesn't work.

Nicraz said:
I just ordered this one just to test. For $1.69 and free shipping, I wouldn't really care if it doesn't work.
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Exactly the one I was looking at, will be intestinig to see how you like it, my buddy got a couple in China. 1$ a piece... This is a pretty good deal if they 1/2 way work...
Keep us posted...
Thanks!

I use a clooly and definitely recommend it. Works great on the gnexus too.
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rpwhite3 said:
Exactly the one I was looking at, will be intestinig to see how you like it, my buddy got a couple in China. 1$ a piece... This is a pretty good deal if they 1/2 way work...
Keep us posted...
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Sure will, np.
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i tried my amazon stylus versus my buddy's one dollar no brand stylus
to be honest, they are almost the same, i emailed amazon back and want to return the stylus, told them that it felt no different than the 1 dollar one my buddy got, they told me to keep it and will give me my money back, i told the csr that it won't be necessary and they issued the credit anyway
i don't recommend anyone doing this with the intention of asking amazon for a refund but they did do the right thing for me

rpwhite3 said:
Exactly the one I was looking at, will be intestinig to see how you like it, my buddy got a couple in China. 1$ a piece... This is a pretty good deal if they 1/2 way work...
Keep us posted...
Thanks!
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The stylus works just fine. I really don't see a reason to spend more than $2 for these! It's smooth and comfortable to use.
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I bought the Kensington Virtuoso Touch Stylus + Pen and replaced the pen with a Parker fine black refill. Works great and nice weight to it.

I'm not gonna lie, I bought one of those dollar store styluses yesterday and... Using my Nexus 7 is a LOT more fun with a stylus than without. I was pleasantly surprised

I've had the Kensington for a couple of weeks now and I'm using it more and more, it's really fast and accurate for typing, keeps the fingerprints down and the inbuilt Parker pen is great.

Best on the go keyboard case duo

I already bought my Poetic Hardback and I'm pretty impressed, so I'm feeling less reluctant about buying 3rd party cased.
Has anyone gotten a case with a built in / removable keyboard?
It looks like the keyboard on these 4 are exactly the same. Only the case may be different. My only concern with the keyboard is that in a review someone noted that there's F1-12 keys that don't do anything unless you hold down fn -- seems like bad design.
These seem to be the top keyboard cases for the Nexus 10:
Poetic
KHOMO
Ionic
MoKo
Ionic and MoKo look pretty much the same. They seem superior to the Poetic in that they don't cover the Notification LED. And the KHOM seems the most different with its swivel.
Anyone have experience with any of them? Or see other differences?

Bump.. anyone have experience with any of these??

Khomo Keyboard Case
Royal2000H said:
Bump.. anyone have experience with any of these??
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I purchased the Khomo keyboard case and I was going to return it. They actually gave it to me half off to review it so it cost me like $17. I can tell you the build quality is pretty nice along with its look but, it has some stability issues. The keyboard was terrible since I had already purchased the zagg flex keyboard/stand. After using zaggs keyboard the khomo keyboard pales in comparison to the functionality of what the zagg keyboard offers. These are tablets not laptops and the keyboard should be designed with that in mind. The screen on/off function works as it is supposed to when closed and opened. Also I noticed that it was hard to close fully. The magnetic area had to be pulled tightly to align with the other magnets for it to close securely. It closes easily without the nexus 10 inside but with it the added depth just causes it to take a little more effort than what should be needed to fully close it. The keyboard is removable and bluetooth connectivity worked as it should with no issues. I guess it may be a good deal for some but after using the Zagg Flex Keyboard I would easily recommend it even without it being a case over the Khomo. I got the Zagg for $37 and made a thread a while back of where to find it if still available at that price. If requested I can still upload the first reaction video I made of it to youtube.
Also rotation to portrait is iffy because you cannot get it in a position I would deem useful. If I want portrait I pretty much want it standin straight not at an angle. Videos are uploading though for those who may want to look at it. Thanks to Khomo for the discount and support them. They may produce better designs after a few drafts.

Thanks momulah.. it seems like the khomo has the same removable keyboard as the 3 other ones I linked.
What problems are you having with the keyboard? Just the F keys or are there other issues?
Which ZAGG keyboard by the way? It seems like they have several, ranging from $70-$100+ and they look possibly less portable?

I just received my poetic dual case and the quality is quite excellent. The leather looks nice and the tablet fits snuggly. Keys also feel pretty good.
Unfortunately, I'll likely be returning this and looking for something just slightly better. There are two big problems. The first of which you've mentioned before: there are android function keys but they are hidden underneath F1-12 and you have to press the FN key in conjunction to access the Android function keys. Since this is supposedely designed specifically for the Nexus 10 I find this to be a huge oversight. The biggest issue, however, is that the right shift key is moved away from the keyboard separated by both the 'end' and up arrow key. I have no idea why this was done seeing as the left shift is where it should be bordering the 'z' key. I've attached an image below. Perhaps given some more time I could get used to it (in fact, I'm already naturally using left shift exclusively while typing this post). I want to like this case; for the price it's simply phenomenal. Very sturdy, setup and connection was a breeze and it looks good. I'll report back in a few more days.
Edit: there is also another awkward keyboard layout problem. The home key is wedged in between the main keyboard and enter key. It appears that the manufacturer tried to squeeze a full sized keyboard into the dimensions of the tablet and made some...questionable design choices.
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Royal2000H said:
I already bought my Poetic Hardback and I'm pretty impressed, so I'm feeling less reluctant about buying 3rd party cased.
Has anyone gotten a case with a built in / removable keyboard?
It looks like the keyboard on these 4 are exactly the same. Only the case may be different. My only concern with the keyboard is that in a review someone noted that there's F1-12 keys that don't do anything unless you hold down fn -- seems like bad design.
These seem to be the top keyboard cases for the Nexus 10:
Poetic
KHOMO
Ionic
MoKo
Ionic and MoKo look pretty much the same. They seem superior to the Poetic in that they don't cover the Notification LED. And the KHOM seems the most different with its swivel.
Anyone have experience with any of them? Or see other differences?
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I have the... um, haha wow, it really is hard to tell, but I believe I have the Moko case. I was going to say Poetic, but my notification LED definitely isn't blocked. Although I'm not too disappointed with it, I wouldn't order it again; not only does it add bulk (which I anticipated, and doesn't bother me too much), but it adds significant weight, and gives it an unwieldy feel. How are you supposed to read books/current/magazines with the case? You find yourself pressing the keys when you swing it around to the back. Fortunately, the keyboard is incredibly easy to pull on and off (this is the saving grace, otherwise I would have returned mine), but the case feels a little.. "off" without the keyboard.
It offers decent protection, and the keyboard is acceptable. When you're sitting at a desk, or lying down with the keyboard on your stomach and the case stand is holding up the N10 on a nearby table, it's pretty nice, although the omission of a mouse means you still need to poke at the screen or pair a mouse through a USB OTG adapter (there is probably an easier way, but I haven't figured it out yet). However, for me, those situations are outnumbered by the times I want to use it sitting on a bench, bus, metro, standing, reading in bed, etc.
If I were to buy another case, I would go for the best slim case available. I think my ideal case would be something like a gel case with a simple "flap" screen protector and a plastic kickstand molded into the back of the gel case. That's enough protection for me to feel comfortable putting it into my messenger bag without worrying too much about scrapes.
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: logitech K400. Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
Anyway, even with all that said, I'm happy enough with the case that I'm keeping it. It's a good price for bluetooth keyboard, okay case, and it fits together nicely. I suggest thinking about how you use your nexus 10, and if the pseudo-netbook form factor makes sense for you, then I would suggest the Moko without reservation. If not, consider going for your favorite case and your favorite bluetooth keyboard separately.
A request: if you get the k400 keyboard, PM me and let me know if it's as good as I thought!

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I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: . Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
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Hi there,
I would recomment looking for a real bluetooth keyboard, like logitech k810 amazon DOT com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp/B0099SMFVQ
As it's my first post, i cannot link outside xda..
Cheers
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Komodo Rogue;36292779
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I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: . Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
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Hi there,
I would recomment looking for a real bluetooth keyboard, like logitech k810 amazon DOT com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp/B0099SMFVQ
As it's my first post, i cannot link outside xda..
Cheers
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Here's a link to a review, the first link on google when I searched for k810: PC mag review
They gave it a great review, thanks for the suggestion It looks really nice, I personally love chiclet keys, and illuminated keys make a big difference.
But still, I feel like having mouse input would be incredibly helpful, especially if it supports gestures.
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I have the... um, haha wow, it really is hard to tell, but I believe I have the Moko case. I was going to say Poetic, but my notification LED definitely isn't blocked. Although I'm not too disappointed with it, I wouldn't order it again; not only does it add bulk (which I anticipated, and doesn't bother me too much), but it adds significant weight, and gives it an unwieldy feel. How are you supposed to read books/current/magazines with the case? You find yourself pressing the keys when you swing it around to the back. Fortunately, the keyboard is incredibly easy to pull on and off (this is the saving grace, otherwise I would have returned mine), but the case feels a little.. "off" without the keyboard.
It offers decent protection, and the keyboard is acceptable. When you're sitting at a desk, or lying down with the keyboard on your stomach and the case stand is holding up the N10 on a nearby table, it's pretty nice, although the omission of a mouse means you still need to poke at the screen or pair a mouse through a USB OTG adapter (there is probably an easier way, but I haven't figured it out yet). However, for me, those situations are outnumbered by the times I want to use it sitting on a bench, bus, metro, standing, reading in bed, etc.
If I were to buy another case, I would go for the best slim case available. I think my ideal case would be something like a gel case with a simple "flap" screen protector and a plastic kickstand molded into the back of the gel case. That's enough protection for me to feel comfortable putting it into my messenger bag without worrying too much about scrapes.
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: logitech K400. Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
Anyway, even with all that said, I'm happy enough with the case that I'm keeping it. It's a good price for bluetooth keyboard, okay case, and it fits together nicely. I suggest thinking about how you use your nexus 10, and if the pseudo-netbook form factor makes sense for you, then I would suggest the Moko without reservation. If not, consider going for your favorite case and your favorite bluetooth keyboard separately.
A request: if you get the k400 keyboard, PM me and let me know if it's as good as I thought!
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Also been thinking of the K400 but the problem with it is that it uses Logitech Unifying, which means you have to use an OTG cable to connect the adapter to. Personally I don't want that dangling around everytime I want to use the keyboard.

tct08 said:
I just received my poetic dual case and the quality is quite excellent. The leather looks nice and the tablet fits snuggly. Keys also feel pretty good.
Unfortunately, I'll likely be returning this and looking for something just slightly better. There are two big problems. The first of which you've mentioned before: there are android function keys but they are hidden underneath F1-12 and you have to press the FN key in conjunction to access the Android function keys. Since this is supposedely designed specifically for the Nexus 10 I find this to be a huge oversight. The biggest issue, however, is that the right shift key is moved away from the keyboard separated by both the 'end' and up arrow key. I have no idea why this was done seeing as the left shift is where it should be bordering the 'z' key. I've attached an image below. Perhaps given some more time I could get used to it (in fact, I'm already naturally using left shift exclusively while typing this post). I want to like this case; for the price it's simply phenomenal. Very sturdy, setup and connection was a breeze and it looks good. I'll report back in a few more days.
Edit: there is also another awkward keyboard layout problem. The home key is wedged in between the main keyboard and enter key. It appears that the manufacturer tried to squeeze a full sized keyboard into the dimensions of the tablet and made some...questionable design choices.
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Thanks for your post!
Interestingly enough, your Poetic case looks like it has a small hole for the notification light. Maybe the Amazon picture is wrong.
I rarely (if ever) use the right shift key, so that's not an issue for me. But the squeezing of the home key to the left of the enter key is really an odd design decision! I use Home & End a lot on my laptop, so it's nice that the keyboard includes them (usually they're first to be left off!) but the placement is indeed questionable.
Clearly it's a generic keyboard due to the odd F key layout. Who needs F1-12 keys on an Android-specific keyboard? I just wonder if there's a way to hack the firmware or maybe even something on the tablet side to reverse the need to press the Fn key. Seems like it would be a nice project, but I'm not sure I have the time for it.
@Komodo - I agree that all keyboard cases are going to be bulkier. I do already have a normal case, so I think I would just switch off between keyboard case and the normal one depending on my needs for that day. So that being said, for my uses, a slim/portable keyboard is more useful.

CazeW said:
Also been thinking of the K400 but the problem with it is that it uses Logitech Unifying, which means you have to use an OTG cable to connect the adapter to. Personally I don't want that dangling around everytime I want to use the keyboard.
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I have the K400. It works with the Nexus 10 & 7 and HTC Rezound & DNA. But I bought it for my laptop when doubling as a HTPC.
I don't see the point in a touch pad. far easier to touch the screen, I prefer a mouse over touchpad too.
I just ordered the iHome Universal Bluetooth Keyboard then I can have the option to use an usb sd card or a mouse simultaneously. I think staying with bluetooth is a better way to go.
Use code A4C5OFF and standard shipping, $2, for a $24.75 out the door price.
For me, a keyboard is a seldom used item with a tablet. It was hard to find reviews for it but at more than half the price of the logitech android keyboard, why not?

I wonder if this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelper will solve the problem with having to press fn + function-key to use the android specific keys?
It was recommended for a different keyboard in another thread. Anyone with the khomo/poetic/etc keyboard able to test? The app description said there is a demo too.

Icyman said:
I have the K400. It works with the Nexus 10 & 7 and HTC Rezound & DNA.
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How did you get it to work with Nexus 10? I bought an OTG-cable-adapter but it does not work. I tried a G11, which works perfectly. And I checked it on my desktop (Win 7), where it works. So there should be an issue with either the Nexus or Android itself. Do I need root and a custom rom?

Was anyone able to try the app to see if it can improve the keyboard?
Maybe momulah or tct08 or Komodo Rogue ?

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How did you get it to work with Nexus 10? I bought an OTG-cable-adapter but it does not work. I tried a G11, which works perfectly. And I checked it on my desktop (Win 7), where it works. So there should be an issue with either the Nexus or Android itself. Do I need root and a custom rom?
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I've read that the K400 keyboard is supported by version 4.3 and later.

I need a car dock

Yes.....so....my car dock is broken....can't stick to anything anymore.
I need a really good one (like someone doesn't want a really good one) duh. ...anyway
I love the flexible arm option....anyway nd need a big suction cup. The one(s) I had were 'too small' and couldn't get enough surface area for a good "stay". I looked all over amazon ...and ironically no good write up if not any that have options as I mentioned. Anyone have anything out there like above mentioned?..I really need the flex bc I different vehicles I use.
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ganggreen777 said:
Yes.....so....my car dock is broken....can't stick to anything anymore.
I need a really good one (like someone doesn't want a really good one) duh. ...anyway
I love the flexible arm option....anyway really need a big suction cup. The one(s) I had were 'too small' and couldn't get enough surface area for a good "stay". I looked all over amazon ...and ironically no good write up if not any that have options as I mentioned. Anyone have anything out there like above mentioned?..I really need the flex bc I different vehicles I use.
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Car Dock
How much does a car dock cost?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192333 - scroll down to Mounts/Stands/Grips section of my reviews (I know, there is a ton in there ). Pretty much, I reviewed almost every single car mount available on the market. What I can HIGHLY recommend is Slim Grip Ultra by Arkon. The quality of their mounts and sticky gel suction cups is bar none. Been using it for years. Plus what I like about Slim Grip Ultra is that you can use it either with a phone or 7"/8" tablet. And it fits with any case, even Defender. Plus, when you go to their website, for every mount you get something like a dozen of different mounting arm options. Typically, all their mounts are around $20-$25 (on amazon it's cheaper), and come with 2 year warranty.

I will sooo definitely take a looong read lol
Lots of good stuff....thanks Bra
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vectron said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192333 - scroll down to Mounts/Stands/Grips section of my reviews (I know, there is a ton in there ). Pretty much, I reviewed almost every single car mount available on the market. What I can HIGHLY recommend is Slim Grip Ultra by Arkon. The quality of their mounts and sticky gel suction cups is bar none. Been using it for years. Plus what I like about Slim Grip Ultra is that you can use it either with a phone or 7"/8" tablet. And it fits with any case, even Defender. Plus, when you go to their website, for every mount you get something like a dozen of different mounting arm options. Typically, all their mounts are around $20-$25 (on amazon it's cheaper), and come with 2 year warranty.
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Thanks for this link. I always find it hard to get what I want out of the search bar.

I'm using a RAM Mount setup for my Note 2. Phablet X-Grip, RAM-B-201-C Long arm and twist-grip suction cup.
Not the cheapest option out there, but it works great, is solid and can be moved from one vehicle to another relatively easily. I'll try to take photos when I get the chance.

I've been using the iOttie that is windshild mount. I stick mine to the dash. Very similar the Anker recommended above. Been working well for me for over a year. I use mine every day. I don't switch cars very often, but I haven't had issues. I just kept the little plastic cup cover when transporting or putting away to keep the sticky area of the cup clean.
I will say, it's kind of pain to get the mount off the dash because it sticks very well.

lovekeiiy said:
I've been using the iOttie that is windshild mount. I stick mine to the dash. Very similar the Anker recommended above. Been working well for me for over a year. I use mine every day. I don't switch cars very often, but I haven't had issues. I just kept the little plastic cup cover when transporting or putting away to keep the sticky area of the cup clean.
I will say, it's kind of pain to get the mount off the dash because it sticks very well.
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Arkon, not Anker I make this mistake as well since I review so many different products, including a lot from both Anker and Arkon lol!!!
iOttie is not bad, but I found a problem using it with rugged cases. Something like Defender or Zerolemon Zeroshock with ZL battery not going to fit well because iOttie grip arms are short. Plus, Arkon slim-grip ultra can also fit my Nexus 7 (or Note 8 or iPad Mini) so it makes it a better value for the same or cheaper price (depending on amazon sales).

vectron said:
Arkon, not Anker I make this mistake as well since I review so many different products, including a lot from both Anker and Arkon lol!!!
iOttie is not bad, but I found a problem using it with rugged cases. Something like Defender or Zerolemon Zeroshock with ZL battery not going to fit well because iOttie grip arms are short. Plus, Arkon slim-grip ultra can also fit my Nexus 7 (or Note 8 or iPad Mini) so it makes it a better value for the same or cheaper price (depending on amazon sales).
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Opps, I didn't even realize I wrote the wrong company name. I believe I have products from both companies too. I have one of Anker's 10A external batteries, and, I believe, my dash tablet holder/mount is from Arkon.
I knew the iOttie had limitations. I just didn't remember them all. Then again, the issues you mentioned, especially in regards to cases like Defender, and extended batteries is very common. It's part of the cost of getting a thick case or big battery.
I wouldn't dispute the value of the Arkon. I especially like the idea of the various mounting brackets. Although, from what it looked like, they're all separate units, running about $20 to #40 a piece, which could end up being very expensive. More useful if the cost was, say, halved and just get the mounting bracket and can just use one cradle with any bracket. I think this could a good deal for the person who travels a lot and may need or want various ways to mount their mobile device.
As for the iOttie itself, it's worked well for me. Granted, I only use the normal OEM battery, and have a cheap Cruzerlite case on my phone:
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Although now it has a yellowing to some degree. Anyway, what I like is that the cup and it's additional stickiness works on my dash board. The dash although not extremely curved, is curved just enough that unless it's small cup, can't maintain or establish suction. Plus, I prefer not use the windshield if I don't have to; plus, California law actual prohibits it as well. I don't want to use the airvent. And I want something mostly secure, so those weighted friction dash mount pads, didn't fit the bill. I'm concern if I get an accident or something it flying around. I also liked it had a small arm. Adjustable a different parts of bracket. The ball is actually doing well in keeping position. I've had other mounts that after a year couldn't keep a hold, and ultimately ended having to rest the holder on the dash. I just couldn't fasten the holding nut any tighter. The push button fastener is a nice bonus touch to it as well. Just pop the phone in, the holding bracket on the faster cling the device. The release button opens up a releases the device.
I'm not quite as sold on the Arkon's value in regards to being able to hold larger devices. Not so much whether it can, but more how many people have that need. Given how some smart phones are getting bigger, I do see it as a valid argument. How many of use end up getting new mounting devices every time we get a new mobile device. Yet, I don't see a lot of people having a phablet and small tablet. Personally, since I wanted to get phablet, since the first Dell streak was released (Sprint didn't offer a phablet till the Note 2 and I didn't want to switch carriers), I just did not see significant benefit of a 7" tablet over a phone that was almost 6" in size. I got a 10" tablet instead which does give a different experience beyond the user interface between the devices. Granted this last bit is really a subjective matter and I do think Nexus 7 and other such tablets give an excellent value and experience, and are overall very good devices.
On a side note, for me, I think a more ideal car mount would be something similar to a Clingo but with suction cup of the iOttie or Akron. I have a clingo neklit I use with a Gameklip and the first generation pivot pad, which both use similar sticky pads. They work really well and even better with a nonTPU surface. When it starts losing stickiness, I just rinse it off under cold water and rub it thoroughly with my finger and let drive. And best part, the device limitation is about the device's weight, not it's dimensions. Plus, their commercials can be a bit funny
I have used the PivotPad with my 10" tablet. It worked, but the weight and size compared the PivotPad's sticky pad were ideal. It was easy to knock off. It does work well with GN2.

I recommend Tetrax. You only need a magnet.
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