Hi good folk!
I have my son's new GN and I want to help him to safely update to ICS OTA and root.
Is it safe and possible to go from unrooted GB, do the OTA update to ICS, then flash n' root the SpeedMod kernel via Odin?
It's wipe and restore with default ICS kernel that's unsafe if I've read right?
Thanks for your help!
Ok, I sound like a total noob, I admit it!
Safest way to get speed mod kernel onto unrooted stock ics please. I have been looking, but it's like spaghetti junction out there!
Thanks!
Yup, its wiping in recovery or factory resets which is causing problems. You should be able to safely upgrade to ICS.
Not sure about the kernel. Just read the stickies. I think it would be covered.
One advice: scrap stock ROM all together.. Flash something like Asylum ICS, or some safe custom ICS ROM based on stock ROM because frankly stock ICS sucks like hell.. if you need any help, feel free to PM me!
Sent from my Galaxy Note running ParanoidAndroid v0.4 using XDA Premium. xD
The safest and easiest method would be,
1. Upgrade to ICS via OTA
2. Root with temporary CWM method here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647148
3. Get Mobile Odin from Google Play (or search in xda)
4. Flash latest speedmod kernel for ICS (k3-5 .tar) via mobile odin
5. Reboot to recovery and do wipe from there if needed
Great! Thanks for your helpful replies, much appreciated!
i suggest you to be on gb to stay on safest side otherwise ics is a pain in ass.. go upgrade i can't stop you
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Anything is not safe if you don't know how to use it properly...
I don't advise you to go OTA, as if you read there are many posts are there describing battery issue, FC, unable to go to deep sleep. what are happens is likely due to previous ROM junks (thogh may not happen in all cases, b'coz there state of ROM may be clear at time of OTA update)
What i suggest best thing is to go this way
-Take backup of important data, as you have unrooted GB so you have limited scope for backup, but there is lots of applications then worth to get Root (if your RO is directly rootable) then create backup with titanium or same other application. just backup only user applications only not system junk.
-Wipe cache and data fro recovery (you can get recovery with Vol Up+home+power)
-Download ICS ROM and flash using odin from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
Here is installation and rooting guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26455511&postcount=2475
-Now you will feel fresh ICS experience. and you can restore your data which you have created earlier.
But if you dont have much application to backup, then escape root, Backup/restore steps i have mentioned. Contacts can be backup with google sync, as well from contact - import/export
and SMS can be backup with SMS backup and restore application
as well there is free appl for unroot ' My bakup" on market is good to backup these stuffs.
GoodLuck!
Edit : Yes wiping is not safe on ICS. but custom kernels are safer compare to stock. you can flash any safe kernel like CF,Franco,speedmod and some more (get it from development section) after finishing root ICS.
Just remember golden rule, avoid deleting big files, wipe and recovery function on ICS. then you are safe.
Ahh wow thanks but too late! My son started playing with his phone before I could speak to him last night, and this morning I looked at his phone and saw it had ICS. Either this phone came preinstalled with ics, or I suspect that it updated when he turned on wifi, as auto update was ticked.
So I root, flash speedmod kernel and reboot to recovery to be safe from the bad bug, then install a custom ics rom over the ota stock rom?
One question please. So I'm on stock ics from ota. After flashing speedmod kernel and rebooting to recovery, is it then safe to wipe cache and dalvik after doing this, and before installing a custom ics rom?
Many thanks again..bowled over by responses to a noob from respected xda peeps!
Okay, I'm on the Speedmod kernel and already the stock ota ics is visibly smoother. one step at a time!
Speedmod kernel is.safer.then stock.and disabled emmc erase cap command to remove brick bug. But still to be safe side avoid unnecessarily wipe as well.recovery function till that's not must. Here nobody claim 100% safe like gb kernel.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
hey
the gn is kl what is the speed mod
Rooted and custom rom installed safely, thanks for all your help!
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I want to Flash Team ICSSGS [Android 4.0.3] (Link to ROM Thread) but I am not for sure what Bootloaders or Kernel I need to use.
I currently have:
Firmware Version: 2.2
Baseband Version: I897UCKB1
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.9
Build Number: FROYO.UCKB1
In general, the Gingerbread bootloaders are preferred with any of the ICS ROMs, because they are more ubiquitous and can be used with virtually any version 2.1 thru 4.0. Kernel-wise, the ICS ROMs come with a kernel, and your only other option is Glitch v14 beta right now...but mostly, you shouldn't need to worry about flashing anything beyond what's in the ROM itself right now.
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In general, the Gingerbread bootloaders are preferred with any of the ICS ROMs, because they are more ubiquitous and can be used with virtually any version 2.1 thru 4.0. Kernel-wise, the ICS ROMs come with a kernel, and your only other option is Glitch v14 beta right now...but mostly, you shouldn't need to worry about flashing anything beyond what's in the ROM itself right now.
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So that ROM I listed in my OP comes with its own Kernel?
And is there a particular Bootloader I should use?
If there is, may you please link me to it?
Hey im currently running the ROM you are asking about. To answer your questions you have to be on the gingerbread bootloaders. You can flash those using odin, or since there is an official update out, use Kies mini to update your phone to gingerbread and that will flash the bootloaders for you.
About the kernel, the ROM you posted includes a kernel in the .zip and when you install the .zip it will flash the kernel for you. Its a fine kernel and works great so dont worry about changing it unless you have problems.
Here is the link on how to flash the bootloaders using Odin. Its not a hard process and pretty safe so let us know how you come out on the other side!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129821&highlight=gingerbread+bootloader
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Hey im currently running the ROM you are asking about. To answer your questions you have to be on the gingerbread bootloaders. You can flash those using odin, or since there is an official update out, use Kies mini to update your phone to gingerbread and that will flash the bootloaders for you.
About the kernel, the ROM you posted includes a kernel in the .zip and when you install the .zip it will flash the kernel for you. Its a fine kernel and works great so dont worry about changing it unless you have problems.
Here is the link on how to flash the bootloaders using Odin. Its not a hard process and pretty safe so let us know how you come out on the other side!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129821&highlight=gingerbread+bootloader
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Now when I flash this bootloader you listed, will Froyo still boot or will I have to flash my ROM afterwards?
froyo will still boot. GB BL are backwards compatible and the ISCSGS script should allow it to flash over any ROM
Hi all.
as i can't post yet in a thread mentioned by mrnapolean1 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362092) I'll try to ask my question here, as it related to a question asked by this thread starter
so i have gingerbread 2.3.5, installed CornKernel_UCKK4_v603 and custom rom SimplyStock KK4 V1.0 , so if i wanted to switch Team ICSSGS [Android 4.0.3] should i do following?
1. wipe data /factory reset
2.wipe system
3.flash from recovery mode Android 4.0.3 zip?
I already have a backup made with Efs Pro as a tar file
anything else i need to do?
thank you so much in advance
mrnapolean1 said:
Now when I flash this bootloader you listed, will Froyo still boot or will I have to flash my ROM afterwards?
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Yes, Froyo will still boot. If this were a layer cake it would go something like bootloader, kernel, rom. So basically, your bootloader has nothing to do with your kernel or your rom but it is at the bottom layer of the boot process. It does effect which ROMs you can use though as gingerbread and ICS roms require GB bootloaders. So flash the bootloaders, you will still be on Froyo. Update to GB. Root GB. Place the ROM on your internal SD and then flash it. If you run into any problems check the common problems page found on the first page of the SGSICS ROM.
gugman said:
Hi all.
as i can't post yet in a thread mentioned by mrnapolean1 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362092) I'll try to ask my question here, as it related to a question asked by this thread starter
so i have gingerbread 2.3.5, installed CornKernel_UCKK4_v603 and custom rom SimplyStock KK4 V1.0 , so if i wanted to switch Team ICSSGS [Android 4.0.3] should i do following?
1. wipe data /factory reset
2.wipe system
3.flash from recovery mode Android 4.0.3 zip?
I already have a backup made with Efs Pro as a tar file
anything else i need to do?
thank you so much in advance
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First, if you want to keep any of your apps or contacts backup those as well using Titanium Backup. Make sure to backup to the External SD card or make a copy of the backup somewhere other than the phones internal SD.
Second, you dont have to wipe data/factory reset before you flash. This is only if you have the problem of a bootloop when you try to install. I had this problem and when I did the wipe data afterward it fixed it immediately. So follow this:
1: Boot into CWM
2: install rom
IF you have an issue with a boot loop at this point
1: Get back into CWM using the button combination
2: Wipe data/Factory Rest and Wipe Cach
capocaccia
thank you !
one more question, i understood about data/factory/cash, but dont i need to format system before flashing new rom? i thought its always better to do before new rom flashing?
gugman said:
capocaccia
thank you !
one more question, i understood about data/factory/cash, but dont i need to format system before flashing new rom? i thought its always better to do before new rom flashing?
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I think this was true when flashing older roms. When I flashed that ROM I did not format system and it worked fine. Let me know if you have any problems when you flash.
capocaccia said:
I think this was true when flashing older roms. When I flashed that ROM I did not format system and it worked fine. Let me know if you have any problems when you flash.
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i see. okey, thanx a lot again. will be able to flash in about an hour and will let you know
after flashing all went good and phone booted with no problem, except that i don't have a wi-fi, it is connected after typing my password in, wifi icon is on home screen, but could not enter any website or connect to my google account. any ideas?
Try flashing this: http://code.google.com/p/ice-cream-.../detail?name=WifiFix.zip&can=2&q=#makechanges
Sent from my Captivate running Android 4.0.3 ICS
capocaccia said:
Try flashing this: http://code.google.com/p/ice-cream-.../detail?name=WifiFix.zip&can=2&q=#makechanges
Sent from my Captivate running Android 4.0.3 ICS
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so after flashing that file my phone gives me screen like this
Power Reset or Uknown Upload Mode
and it is stucked. so may i pull the battery off and go to recovery mode again and go back to my previous room? should i perform system format in this case?
Try to reboot. If it won't reboot then ask around in the icssgs Q and A thread.
Sent from my Captivate running Android 4.0.3 ICS
capocaccia said:
Try to reboot. If it won't reboot then ask around in the icssgs Q and A thread.
Sent from my Captivate running Android 4.0.3 ICS
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with keys+power button combination i've been able to exit that screen and reinstalled 4.0.3
do you know safe way how do i go back to SimplyStock KK4 V1.0? should i first flash CornKernel_UCKK4_v603 with odin? but is it safe to do over android 4.0.3?
sorry for bothering you, but i am kind of stucked
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ok, in the end managed to boot the phone with working wifi but still would like to know how to flash back to SimplyStock KK4 V1.0, just in case ;-) if that won't be problem for you. thank you !!!
IMHO the best way to go from gingerbread to ics 4.0 is to
- in the development section download stock kk4 without bootloaders, unless you dont have them http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
- then download a kernel of your choice probably cornkernal and put it on your internal sd card
- download ICS latest build and gapps and put them on your internal sd
- oneclick odin the stock kk4, let it boot up completely
- power off and install kernal via odin without aut reset
- boot into recovery, factory/data reset, clean cache, clear dalvik, install latest ics, then install gapps right after,
- reboot system and youre done.
IF you want to go back to your other rom the simplest way is to just kk4 fresh install, install kernal via odin, then isntall your rom.
I always keep all my contacts synced with gmail, and titanium backup any game data or app data i need, and reinstall apps through the market.
hope this helps
capocaccia said:
Yes, Froyo will still boot. If this were a layer cake it would go something like bootloader, kernel, rom. So basically, your bootloader has nothing to do with your kernel or your rom but it is at the bottom layer of the boot process. It does effect which ROMs you can use though as gingerbread and ICS roms require GB bootloaders. So flash the bootloaders, you will still be on Froyo. Update to GB. Root GB. Place the ROM on your internal SD and then flash it. If you run into any problems check the common problems page found on the first page of the SGSICS ROM.
First, if you want to keep any of your apps or contacts backup those as well using Titanium Backup. Make sure to backup to the External SD card or make a copy of the backup somewhere other than the phones internal SD.
Second, you dont have to wipe data/factory reset before you flash. This is only if you have the problem of a bootloop when you try to install. I had this problem and when I did the wipe data afterward it fixed it immediately. So follow this:
1: Boot into CWM
2: install rom
IF you have an issue with a boot loop at this point
1: Get back into CWM using the button combination
2: Wipe data/Factory Rest and Wipe Cach
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Now can I go strait from Froyo to the ROM i listed in my OP?
okey, so at the end i decided to switch Doc's Master ICS and so far so good thank you all again for your support !!!!
mrnapolean1 said:
Now can I go strait from Froyo to the ROM i listed in my OP?
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I gone ahead and flashed ICS onto my phone. It is working good but the Hang up button does not work. In order to hang up, i have to lock it and unlock it.
Now i did a Backup of Froyo from within CWM. if I do have a problem, can i go to DWM and restore the backed up Froyo?
Hi
i have just flashed ICS_Stunner_1.4.26.1 onto my Note.
Its amazing, I love it.
I have changed the dpi to 189 and changed it to forced landscape with 10 x 10 icon layout.
It was working fine the whole day and now when I turned on my phone the icons are cut in half. Not sure how to fix this?
Secondly I flashed from GB 2.3.6 with abyss kernal... they say you must charge battery to full then discharge empty and then charge to fill and delete some battery config. Is this true?
What would your path of action be when flashing a new rom? Also how do I restore all my contacts? I made a complete backup using titanium backup (system, apps & data) when I was on my root stock rom...
I got a few questions there and hopefully I can be pointed in the right directions...
One final question, if I wanted to try out KingDroid rom. How would I do it coming from this ICS Stunner Rom?
randomwalsh said:
Hi
i have just flashed ICS_Stunner_1.4.26.1 onto my Note.
Its amazing, I love it.
I have changed the dpi to 189 and changed it to forced landscape with 10 x 10 icon layout.
It was working fine the whole day and now when I turned on my phone the icons are cut in half. Not sure how to fix this?
Secondly I flashed from GB 2.3.6 with abyss kernal... they say you must charge battery to full then discharge empty and then charge to fill and delete some battery config. Is this true?
What would your path of action be when flashing a new rom? Also how do I restore all my contacts? I made a complete backup using titanium backup (system, apps & data) when I was on my root stock rom...
I got a few questions there and hopefully I can be pointed in the right directions...
One final question, if I wanted to try out KingDroid rom. How would I do it coming from this ICS Stunner Rom?
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I follow the procedure suggested by xda thread when I change from ICS rom to another ICS or GB rom:
1. download AbyssNote 4.2 kernel and place it on your internal/external SD Card
Also download the ICS Rom you want to install and put it on your SD card.
2. reboot to CWMR and do a backup of your current system
3. after your backup is done, stay in Recovery
4. go to install a zip from SD card --> select AbyssNote 4.2 zip and flash it
5. go back to CWMR's root menu --> advanced --> reboot recovery
6. you'll find yourself in AbyssNote's Touch Recovery
7. factory reset --> wipe cache --> wipe dalvik
9. flash the ICS Rom of your choice
10. reboot and let the Rom settle for a couple of minutes
I have no problem with this procedure so far.
If you want to be absolutely safe, you will use PC Odin back to stock Gingerbread, root it, then flash a safe rom/kernel combo. Abysskernel will work, but it's not 100% safe.
Your contacts should be restored if you had them synced with Google (Settings --> Accounts).
When you restore with TI Backup (if you do) don't restore anything system wise. Just apps and data with them only. If you have bugs, you will have to re-flash and NOT restore apps.
ok concerning my contacts... i didnt sync them with google... i know silly me. it was on the phone.
So doesn't titanium backup copy them anywhere.
I have made backup of my rom with cwm... would that contain my contacts if i restored that backup?
was its either use cwm which isnt 100% safe or use pc odin and stock gb...
Could i just restore the backup of my gb rom and then flash from there to a ics?
Use PC Odin back to gb stock prerooted, the stunner use a bad kernel i think and wipe can cause emmc to break?, so i suggest using PC odin back to stock prerooted gb , then follow some guides ( i used abysskernel ) then Asylum as its same and good rom!
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ok concerning my contacts... i didnt sync them with google... i know silly me. it was on the phone.
So doesn't titanium backup copy them anywhere.
I have made backup of my rom with cwm... would that contain my contacts if i restored that backup?
was its either use cwm which isnt 100% safe or use pc odin and stock gb...
Could i just restore the backup of my gb rom and then flash from there to a ics?
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If you restore "Phone" and Contacts app + data with TI backup, it MIGHT restore them but no guarantees.
You can restore the backup of your GB rom IF you are NOT using CWM on a stock ICS rom. Use Abyss Kernel to restore nandroid backup. Flash Abyss. Reboot recovery. Restore nandroid.
Go to stock ICS OR franco, speedmod, or CM9 kernels or a CM9 build.
ok I flash abyss kernel via cwm... then advance reboot recovery... restored my backup via cwm... merged my phone contacts with google...
Then i got curious about Kingdroid v2.0 with s3 add ons. So I downloaded that and flashed it via cwm... the play store wasnt downloading apps but i could browse internet, so reflashed abyss kernal via cwm and re flashed ics stunner...
I am back on stunner now. I prefer to look of this rom. So i guess as long as your flash abyss kernel you should be fine with flashing different roms and retaining root?
Just need to find out about the battery issue... when flashing a new rom what do you do concerning the battery to ensure correct % and charge...
edit: currently on Kernel : 3.0.15-I9220ZCLP6-CL343671
should i flash to one of the kernels you mentioned above?
also still having problem with cut off icons with apex set at 10x10 in landscape mode...
ok i think i has figured out the solutions...
At current apex doesn't support icon resizing so i changed my layout to 6 x 6 for now.
also was having problem making calls, it kept fc. I found out somewhere that if you use 160dpi you can use a fix or change to 200dpi and you don't need a fix and it works and still looks awesome.
I am very happy with this rom thus far... otg works which is a plus. I think i will use it for a week or so and then try the next one...
flashing roms is like eating pringles... once to flash you can't stop
Dont take me wrong dude but all these fixes including the call fc are in the stunner page,if u read everything before flashing u will not have problems and if u do, u would know how to solve yourself...and be careful restoring nandroids from cwm,flash abyss,then restore.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
Also for the playstore,u could only clean the caches in my apps or change the dpi that would work
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
hahaha why would i take it the wrong way?
but seriously there are like 500 pages... and sometimes your searches are using the right key words. But yip I will try my best not to ask questions that have already been answered... even tho those answers are hidden in the mine that is xda...
With time you learn to navigate such a mine without feeling lost and confused but i am still a wee padawan
Yes always flash abyss first ALWAYS
I don't feel comfortable rolling back to GB, but I used that root without a PC method and you can flash a kernel while doing that, I know that method and feel confident using it..
So what's the chances of hard bricking just from doing this and then installing a ROM through mobile Odin while being on ics, or maybe root it and then use mobile Odin to flash the kernel?
you will be fine providing you do not do a full wipe on a stock ICS kernel.
Franco's kernel is reported to be safe (Never used it myself) so you should be fine to flash it using ODIN / CWM / MobileODIN or what ever the instructions say.
Right, I rooted, and installed Franco kernel...so now I can just use mobile Odin yeah..
Is mobile Odin easy to use, eg only give you options available to your device like ROM manager does?
One more question for you, if I create a backup of my phone now ics through cwm to my sd card if I change my ROM can I just install my backup and go right back to ics?
Also I noticed on the mobile Odin thread it still says something about if your internal sdcard and OS are on the same partition then you will wipe the lot again? Seems like you can't get away from the hard brick? Lol
yes you can restore the backup to go back to your previous rom..provided you have not lost root..
Before I begin, yes... I did search and look through a few threads with similar titles but did not find my problem.
I am not a phone geek and I am new to all this, but I rooted my Note along with a "Franco kernel", which worked successfully. My phone booted up as it was before (in fact I noticed absolutely no difference in my phone, whatsoever).
The problems begun when I tried to install an "Abyss" kernel via CWM, which apparently installed successfully, but the phone would never get past boot-up (not so successful after all, huh?). I realized that it wasn't going to work, so I though no problem, and went back into CWM and re-installed the Franco kernel that I was using before (which worked). Strangely, this kernel, too, would now no longer boot.
I successfully restored the phone with a GB rom via odin (teriible rom), and proceeded to install the so-called "Hydracore" kernel (love the names) via cwm.... this kernel made things even worse. Once again the installation was supposedly "successful", but the phone doesn't go past boot. This time, it gets stuck on a very dim black screen, which isn't actually black, it is a dark creamy/pink hue that you can only notice in absolute darkness. (WTF?) This screen has random black blotches on it, but again, if you are in a lit up room the screen looks completely black and you cannot tell that it is actually lit. When I say that this kernel made the problems even worse, I say that because when this happens (dim black screen), I cannot even enter CWM recovery at all to try and install a different kernel. From here, I can only access download mode, and have no choice but to restore the phone with the GB rom via odin. I did so, and proceeded to install the latest version of "Hydracore" (v5.4) posted right here on XDA by the member 'chasmodo.' This time, I did the installation of the kernel via odin, which, once again, was supposedly successful... and once again a lie, as the phone just goes into the same black screen, with no option other than download mode.
The sole reason I have wasted hours of my life researching and understanding mobile phone terminology in the past few days is so that I can have jellybean on my Note. It seems that I am unable to do this because the Kernels are not working on my device. I have a very powerful and capable phone, which is currently stuck on this GB rom (which I think has to be the most terrible piece of coding ever made) so any help on this would be immensely appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
can you try go back to stock GB rom.. then upgrade to ICS and root using Dr Ketans method and then install Hydracore
You flashed Hydracore on GB rom? that's the main reason behind your problem, this Kernel is not for GB. Now either flash custom GB kernel or flash stock GB firmware using pc odin and then root it. Check post # 2 in this thread for rooting. (I guess you know how to do this )
Once you have root and cwm recovery, you can flash any custom rom you want.
jeetu1981 said:
You flashed Hydracore on GB rom? that's the main reason behind your problem, this Kernel is not for GB. Now either flash custom GB kernel or flash stock GB firmware using pc odin and then root it. Check post # 2 in this thread for rooting. (I guess you know how to do this )
Once you have root and cwm recovery, you can flash any custom rom you want.
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Hot damn you guys are quick!
Silly me! :silly:
If I install any GB kernal can I then install CM10?
S-pen said:
Before I begin, yes... I did search and look through a few threads with similar titles but did not find my problem.
I am not a phone geek and I am new to all this, but I rooted my Note along with a "Franco kernel", which worked successfully. My phone booted up as it was before (in fact I noticed absolutely no difference in my phone, whatsoever).
The problems begun when I tried to install an "Abyss" kernel via CWM, which apparently installed successfully, but the phone would never get past boot-up (not so successful after all, huh?). I realized that it wasn't going to work, so I though no problem, and went back into CWM and re-installed the Franco kernel that I was using before (which worked). Strangely, this kernel, too, would now no longer boot.
I successfully restored the phone with a GB rom via odin (teriible rom), and proceeded to install the so-called "Hydracore" kernel (love the names) via cwm.... this kernel made things even worse. Once again the installation was supposedly "successful", but the phone doesn't go past boot. This time, it gets stuck on a very dim black screen, which isn't actually black, it is a dark creamy/pink hue that you can only notice in absolute darkness. (WTF?) This screen has random black blotches on it, but again, if you are in a lit up room the screen looks completely black and you cannot tell that it is actually lit. When I say that this kernel made the problems even worse, I say that because when this happens (dim black screen), I cannot even enter CWM recovery at all to try and install a different kernel. From here, I can only access download mode, and have no choice but to restore the phone with the GB rom via odin. I did so, and proceeded to install the latest version of "Hydracore" (v5.4) posted right here on XDA by the member 'chasmodo.' This time, I did the installation of the kernel via odin, which, once again, was supposedly successful... and once again a lie, as the phone just goes into the same black screen, with no option other than download mode.
The sole reason I have wasted hours of my life researching and understanding mobile phone terminology in the past few days is so that I can have jellybean on my Note. It seems that I am unable to do this because the Kernels are not working on my device. I have a very powerful and capable phone, which is currently stuck on this GB rom (which I think has to be the most terrible piece of coding ever made) so any help on this would be immensely appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi there, sorry to hear of your challenges.
One thing to remember before flashing is the nature of safe / unsafe kernels. Equally as important is compatible / non compatible kernels. It's not clear from your post but did you flash Abyss on an ICS ROM? If so, Abyss is a GB kernel. It will install but the ROM wont run due to lack of compatibility.
Abyss is used by many as a Safe kernel, a base to flash a new ROM from . Alternatively, it can be used to "downgrade" to Gingerbread ROMs.
If you are intent on trying a JB ROM, I would suggest a doing a full wipe (use the numerous guides on XDA) and a kernel clean (jBroid Script Cleaner for example). Now, research Chasmodo's excellent Kernel Repository and choose a kernel. Hydracore 4.3 Standard is a good "benchmark" however you could try the Official CM10 kernel from Entropy. Reboot to Recovery and flash your JB ROM of choice.
You will now have "Full Wiped" (including Script Clean), installed a Safe (Compatible) Kernel and flashed a compatible ROM.
For what its worth, I found GB to be an excellent ROM, particularly 2.3.6 and 2.3.7. CheckROM was one of my favorite ROMs on the S2 and they didnt even feel the need (till recently) to make an ICS version.
I hope this helps. Please hit THANKS if it did.
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Hi there, sorry to hear of your challenges.
One thing to remember before flashing is the nature of safe / unsafe kernels. Equally as important is compatible / non compatible kernels. It's not clear from your post but did you flash Abyss on an ICS ROM? If so, Abyss is a GB kernel. It will install but the ROM wont run due to lack of compatibility.
Abyss is used by many as a Safe kernel, a base to flash a new ROM from . Alternatively, it can be used to "downgrade" to Gingerbread ROMs.
If you are intent on trying a JB ROM, I would suggest a doing a full wipe (use the numerous guides on XDA) and a kernel clean (jBroid Script Cleaner for example). Now, research Chasmodo's excellent Kernel Repository and choose a kernel. Hydracore 4.3 Standard is a good "benchmark" however you could try the Official CM10 kernel from Entropy. Reboot to Recovery and flash your JB ROM of choice.
You will now have "Full Wiped" (including Script Clean), installed a Safe (Compatible) Kernel and flashed a compatible ROM.
For what its worth, I found GB to be an excellent ROM, particularly 2.3.6 and 2.3.7. CheckROM was one of my favorite ROMs on the S2 and they didnt even feel the need (till recently) to make an ICS version.
I hope this helps. Please hit THANKS if it did.
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Yes, I forgot to mention that when I rooted it I was running official 4.0.3 which I got OTA. After I rooted I tried the Abyss kernel. I had read that if you try and install CM10 straight from ICS you can brick, and that you had to downgrade to GB to do this. There must have been a misunderstanding on my part as I though that installing Abyss would downgrade me to GB.
What I don't understand is that I have now installed a GB rom, yet the Abyss gb kernel still does not work.
The two members that posted mentioned that I should root, though I did mention in the OP that it is already rooted... Am I missing something?
Anyway, I want to avoid having to download any more big files. I already have the latest "nightly" build of CM10 in my SD card. Is there any GB kernel that I can install from where I am now that would make it safe to install the CM10 zip?
S-pen said:
Yes, I forgot to mention that when I rooted it I was running official 4.0.3 which I got OTA. After I rooted I tried the Abyss kernel. I had read that if you try and install CM10 straight from ICS you can brick, and that you had to downgrade to GB to do this. There must have been a misunderstanding on my part as I though that installing Abyss would downgrade me to GB.
What I don't understand is that I have now installed a GB rom, yet the Abyss gb kernel still does not work.
The two members that posted mentioned that I should root, though I did mention in the OP that it is already rooted... Am I missing something?
Anyway, I want to avoid having to download any more big files. I already have the latest "nightly" build of CM10 in my SD card. Is there any GB kernel that I can install from where I am now that would make it safe to install the CM10 zip?
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If I were on a GB ROM and wanted to run CM10 I would Full Wipe (including Cache and Dalvik) then do the following -
Flash Official CM10 kernel.
Reboot to Recovery (do not go straight to ROM flash)
Once back in Recovery, flash the CM10 ROM.
Reboot device.
Alba Donzo said:
If I were on a GB ROM and wanted to run CM10 I would Full Wipe (including Cache and Dalvik) then do the following -
Flash Official CM10 kernel.
Reboot to Recovery (do not go straight to ROM flash)
Once back in Recovery, flash the CM10 ROM.
Reboot device.
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So the official CM10 kernel is a gb kernel? Because remember that is what I'm currently on.
And just to make sure I got you... wipe everything, install kernel (I don't understand what you mean by "go straight to rom flash"), but then not "reboot system", instead "reboot to recovery", then install CM10 rom?
Also, when you say a "full wipe" do you mean that it will erase everything like a factory reset and delete all my apps and everything else? And is there anyway to install CM10 without doing this or is that the only way?
Cm10 kernel is a jelly bean kernel, so gb rom will not run under it.
Full wipe does mean erasing everything. Coming from gb, there is no other way to install, you need a full wipe, remember, you're updating two full revisions of the os, so it's not surprising a full wipe is needed. If you're worried about your apps, root gb before upgrading and use titanium backup to backup you're apps and then restore them when on cm10.
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Alba Donzo said:
If I were on a GB ROM and wanted to run CM10 I would Full Wipe (including Cache and Dalvik) then do the following -
Flash Official CM10 kernel.
Reboot to Recovery (do not go straight to ROM flash)
Once back in Recovery, flash the CM10 ROM.
Reboot device.
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If you are on rooted GB Rom and want to flash a custom JB or ICS one, this is what you do:
1. drop into recovery
2. do a full wife™ (factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik)
3. flash your JB/ICS Rom
4. reboob
Nothing else is needed, no intermediate steps like flashing another kernel in between, and especially no running Jbroid or Sybr kernel cleaning script.
chasmodo said:
If you are on rooted GB Rom and want to flash a custom JB or ICS one, this is what you do:
1. drop into recovery
2. do a full wife™ (factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik)
3. flash your JB/ICS Rom
4. reboob
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How original was that....
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SpyderTracks said:
If you're worried about your apps, root gb before upgrading and use titanium backup to backup you're apps and then restore them when on cm10.
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Once again, my phone is already rooted... I have mentioned this several times.
chasmodo said:
If you are on rooted GB Rom and want to flash a custom JB or ICS one, this is what you do:
1. drop into recovery
2. do a full wife™ (factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik)
3. flash your JB/ICS Rom
4. reboob
Nothing else is needed, no intermediate steps like flashing another kernel in between, and especially no running Jbroid or Sybr kernel cleaning script.
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You telling me that I can safely go straight to JB from my current GB rom and kernel?
I already have a "nightly" JB rom on my SD card, so just to be clear, all I do is go into CWM recovery, do a "full" wipe (how do I do that by the way?) and install the JB rom from zip?
Yes, you can go ahead. Just follow the instructions kindly provided by chasmodo.
But please, do not forget to flash GApps after you flashed the JB "nightly ROM which is on your SD Card". Otherwise you won't have Google account, play store etc yada yada.
Full wipe (aka full-wife™) means wipe data/factory reset. Nothing else.
AA1973 said:
Yes, you can go ahead. Just follow the instructions kindly provided by chasmodo.
But please, do not forget to flash GApps after you flashed the JB "nightly ROM which is on your SD Card". Otherwise you won't have Google account, play store etc yada yada.
Full wipe (aka full-wife™) means wipe data/factory reset. Nothing else.
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Great! I am downloading the GApps for JB now. How do I install them? I understand that this is also done through CWM recovery, but how do I instal them? do I install the JB rom and reboot to recovery and then just install GApps from zip before rebooting system?
Also, does the full wipe have to be done in CWM recovery, or can I just do the normal wipe on the phone menu before entering recovery?
You flash the ROM by pointing the recovery to the "ROM.zip", the same is valid for "GApps.zip".
So you do the following, no reboot in recovery in between those 2 steps!
Install zip (from where it is located, internal/external SD )
*ROM.zip
*Gapps.zip
*reboot system
Wipe data/factory reset is done (most of the times) in recovery. Just get used to it. Saves you some bad habits on doing it on stock ICS ...
AA1973 said:
You flash the ROM by pointing the recovery to the "ROM.zip", the same is valid for "GApps.zip".
So you do the following, no reboot in recovery in between those 2 steps!
Install zip (from where it is located, internal/external SD )
*ROM.zip
*Gapps.zip
*reboot system
Wipe data/factory reset is done (most of the times) in recovery. Just get used to it. Saves you some bad habits on doing it on stock ICS ...
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OK install ROM and then install GApps straight away, got it.
Just about the wipe, is it a simple one button wipe that wipes everything, or are there several things that I have to wipe independently? This is the part I'm not too sure about.
Just go into recovery and have a look. I mean, a really close look! Your topic was "need help to install a kernel" not "I don't know how to use recovery and please can someone come over to my place in order to explain me CWM recovery".
Sorry. Everything has been explained. Can't (or rather dont want to) help you further than what has been already mentioned. Period.
AA1973 said:
Just go into recovery and have a look. I mean, a really close look! Your topic was "need help to install a kernel" not "I don't know how to use recovery and please can someone come over to my place in order to explain me CWM recovery".
Sorry. Everything has been explained. Can't (or rather dont want to) help you further than what has been already mentioned. Period.
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That's fine. I'll go into recovery and have a look. Thanks for the help that you did give anyway.
It worked! I have been messing around with my new Note on Jellybean and looking through all the settings. It doesn't have project butter (or at least the project wasn't very successful), but still miles ahead of Touchwiz.
Just want to extend a big thanks to everyone that has helped me out. Much appreciated.
So, this is what happened. I first upgraded to the latest official JB 4.1.2 XXLSA firmware. I noticed that it still wasn't as fast as I'd like, and wanted to try a custom ROM instead. I read through the guides in here and get that I have to downgrade to a GB ROM first in order for me not to hardbrick my phone. So, I download "N7000XBKK4 ------ 2.3.6 2011 November------- N7000OXXKK5--------------------- Nordic countries" from that list over stock ROM's in the Q&A root guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997 . I follow the flashing guide to the letter, puts my phone in download mode, runs the flash via Odin, the phone restarts, and everything goes south. Basically this happens: When I start my phone it get's to the point in the GB initial startup where I'm to touch the Android to start, but then all it does is throw messages at me about this service and that service having stopped responding, untill the phone reboots. So now I have reflashed back to the JB ROM.
So basically, what am I doing wrong, and what can I do to make a proper downgrade so I can get rooted, install CWM and get down and get it on with some custom ROM's?
Thx in advance!
Same happened with me. I flashed GB and was getting force close messages. But not a big problem. Just flash GB rom again. And after flashing just delete all user data from recovery and reboot. U wont get those messages any more.
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You always need to WIPE data / factory reset after downgrading from JB .. GB is safe to go ahead.. if you choose ICS then first flash a safe kernel and then do wipe
It seems to me that KK5 is non wipe, which explains why you got those messages. The rest is detailed in nokiamodeln91's message BTW, JB is still not official for our Notes. What you installed was a leak with a safe kernel (if it was Philz).
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You always need to WIPE data / factory reset after downgrading from JB .. GB is safe to go ahead.. if you choose ICS then first flash a safe kernel and then do wipe
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Stock GB kernel its safe and Stock ICS Unsafe?
Yiannis75 said:
Stock GB kernel its safe and Stock ICS Unsafe?
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Exactly.
I had this issue too when downgrading to GB. Wipe Cache and Dalvik and you should be ok from then on.
Wow. A lot of replies in just a single day. You guys are awesome
Now you say that the KK5 is non-wipe. Are there any GB-roms which are wipe, so to speak? Or do I have to do the flash to GB, enter recovery, wipe cache partition and do wipe/factory reset, then reboot into a now working phone, set up for root with USB and so forth, root and install CWM, copy the custom ROM to my SD-card (gonna go for ParanoidAndroid) as well as Google services if I want those, and then install them via CWM/Mobile Odin?
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Wow. A lot of replies in just a single day. You guys are awesome
Now you say that the KK5 is non-wipe. Are there any GB-roms which are wipe, so to speak? Or do I have to do the flash to GB, enter recovery, wipe cache partition and do wipe/factory reset, then reboot into a now working phone, set up for root with USB and so forth, root and install CWM, copy the custom ROM to my SD-card (gonna go for ParanoidAndroid) as well as Google services if I want those, and then install them via CWM/Mobile Odin?
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GB LC1 is wipe. But if you want PA (which is an excellent choice) just flash a CM10 kernel in your recovery (if your recovery is safe, like GB for example). Then follow Utacka's instructions for the installation.
But if I want CWM I should do root and install CWM there? And then flash the custom ROM from CWM?
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But if I want CWM I should do root and install CWM there? And then flash the custom ROM from CWM?
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The CM10 kernel comes with its own recovery where you can flash from. If you have root issues, just flash CWM-SuperSU-v0.99.zip. In any case don't flash from stock ICS with CMW.zip: if you are on ICS and not rooted flash the relevant Philz kernel (which is safe and will give you root and CWM) then the CM10 kernel.
Edit: what ROM do you have now?
I use the 4.1.2 XXLSA ROM
Btw, anyone knows where I can download the Google Services Framework so I can install it alongside Paranoid Android? I have been led to believe it's not included as per default
Thx for all the replies!!
If you have downloaded the xxlsa rom then it's inside the rom zip file. Path system/app/GoogleServicesFramework
nokiamodeln91 said:
If you have downloaded the xxlsa rom then it's inside the rom zip file. Path system/app/GoogleServicesFramework
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Hmmm. not that I can see. Even tried unpacking the .tar files. Can't find it :/
Edit: Ah, found it Thx for all the help