http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ay-ghosting-just-take-a-look-at-these-photos/
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Damn, doesnt sound good
Still, google did say that the tablets are still 'under testing' and should be getting a few more updates before released to us. Hopefully one of those will fix it
I'd be interested to know if any of the members here have encountered this issue?
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I'd like some corroboration if anyone has it.
Edit: Corroboration and comments. Are any of you seeing it in daily use? Etc.
Probably just from the bad batch
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Ha. This figures. I have a Prime and have had numerous display problem, along with many other Prime owners. Take a look in the Prime forums if you're interested. Asus uses crappy displays.
I'm sure if this was a big problem there would have been a lot more complaints by now.
Mine doesn't seem to have this issue, it does have a slight flicker though, but I'm hoping that will get sorted out with a newer build.
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Mine doesn't seem to have this issue, it does have a slight flicker though, but I'm hoping that will get sorted out with a newer build.
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Did you test that image?
Well, I have to say I have never taken my prime, set the screen to max bright, left and image static on it for "several minutes" and then checked.
Seems like an odd thing to do in day to day use.
my prime display operates & looks fine. way too early to associate this with prime issues. I hope this nexus forum doesn't get influenced by negative assumption driven mentality and the consumer version of Nexus 7 isn't even released yet.
way to soon to jump the gun on a reported issue. I see I may need to create Positive Nexus 7 thread also...lmfao
lets not become divided in this forum like prime one. it was the ones whose primes worked fine vs. those with issues. SMH. it got ugly in there, especially in the beginning. I thought I would be escaping the madness by this being a Nexus driven forum/device.
This is NOT a problem, ghosting is a common occurrence for all IPS displays. Just a quirk they have, don't leave the display on full brightness on a static image for 5min and you will be fine.
Hi,
my Nexus 7 has this problem.
I don't think it's a common "ghost IPS problem", because I get it also if I leave the tablet for 5 minuts in stand by (so screen off). When I power it on the screen is white and it takes about 1 minute to get normal.
The Ars Technica review suggests that the ghosting issue gets better over time. Fingers crossed.
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My G2x has an IPS display and doesn't ghost. This does however remind me of people going Max brightness in a dark room to test for "screen leak" and complaining when they find it under such drastic conditions. Yes, the article above does say even under automatic brightness but the fact that they tested with Max brightness made me chuckle.
I don't know... just not really worried about it. If it seriously ghosts really bad I'll return it, and if it doesn't I'll keep it.
Definitely jumping the gun on this one. No one has even seen a production model afaik, so just chill until you actually get yours.
Thanks OP for bringing the issue to our attention though.
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The Ars Technica review suggests that the ghosting issue gets better over time. Fingers crossed.
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I really hope. My Nexus 7 has been opened for the first time couple hours ago, but for now the problem is really annoying.
Hmmmm interesting thread. Guess we will know within the weeks to come!!
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My G2x has an IPS display and doesn't ghost. This does however remind me of people going Max brightness in a dark room to test for "screen leak" and complaining when they find it under such drastic conditions. Yes, the article above does say even under automatic brightness but the fact that they tested with Max brightness made me chuckle.
I don't know... just not really worried about it. If it seriously ghosts really bad I'll return it, and if it doesn't I'll keep it.
Definitely jumping the gun on this one. No one has even seen a production model afaik, so just chill until you actually get yours.
Thanks OP for bringing the issue to our attention though.
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My Prime had serious screen bleeding in a dark room, no wonder what the brightness was, so dont write off all the people who experienced screen bleed..That being said, and like others have mentioned, it is way too early to lump the nexus7 in with the TFP...although I did have my reservations about the nexus7 because of Asus's track record with tablets
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Hi,
my Nexus 7 has this problem.
I don't think it's a common "ghost IPS problem", because I get it also if I leave the tablet for 5 minuts in stand by (so screen off). When I power it on the screen is white and it takes about 1 minute to get normal.
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got my 16G Nexus 7 last night and experienced the exact same problem as yours, the washout took more than 5 mins to disappear
Ghosting, washout, flicker
I got my 16GB yesterday and have all three problems. After I close Chrome, for example, I can still see (faintly, but legibly) my tabs, the URL bar, the URL even, etc.
I have a slight flickering problem.
I definitely have a washout problem - and it changes, too. Sometimes it's severe, sometimes not so bad.
I'm going to give it another day or two and if it hasn't resolved itself I will probably return it for another one.
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I've received much from xda-developers forum, so I wanted to give a little back.
My Nexus 7 8GB had the flicker issue and some screen separation on the left hand side, I contacted Google and did the RMA process, yesterday I received the new one, and the change in hardware has eliminated the flicker issue. I know many people are waiting, hoping it's a software fix (and there may be one), but there is definitely some hardware change that fixed the flickering.
The panel in the new Nexus 7 seems different, as the color temperature is significantly cooler than on my original Nexus 7.
I recorded a quick video, which shows them side by side, it's hard to tell unless you're running full screen and HD, but the flickering is visible. Hopefully this helps those waiting for a software fix not get stuck with a bad screen...
Other than the flickering problem, this tablet rocks!
Could you post your serial# and CSSN off the box?
Doesn't have to be your exact serial#...just a rough one. E.g., mine is 338Kish and it still has the flicker issue...
What makes you so sure there's been a hardware revision?
I have one of the first N7's shipped from Google, and it's flicker free.
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What makes you so sure there's been a hardware revision?
I have one of the first N7's shipped from Google, and it's flicker free.
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Do you have the 8 or 16 gig version?
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What makes you so sure there's been a hardware revision?
I have one of the first N7's shipped from Google, and it's flicker free.
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I'm not sure there's been a hardware revision at all... It could just be two batches of the panels, one faulty? Or something else. All I know is that one panel is distinctively warm in color (the original) and has the flicker issue, and the other panel is cool and with no flicker. Maybe just a bad batch of panels? Or some of the other accompanying driver hardware? Assembly?
I'm just saying that a hardware change made a major and distinct difference for me.
When I get a chance I'll post the CSSN/SN.
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I'm not sure there's been a hardware revision at all... It could just be two batches of the panels, one faulty? Or something else. All I know is that one panel is distinctively warm in color (the original) and has the flicker issue, and the other panel is cool and with no flicker. Maybe just a bad batch of panels? Or some of the other accompanying driver hardware? Assembly?
I'm just saying that a hardware change made a major and distinct difference for me.
When I get a chance I'll post the CSSN/SN.
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My dads Nexus 7 16gb has quite a yellow tint to the screen and the left side of the screen is sticking up - although I don't think it flickers.. He's getting a replacement tomorrow although it won't be directly from Google. (Tesco's)
I'll post up whether the screen is any different.
This is good info. Once we get more confirmation that perhaps a RMA will solve the issue, then we'll see how good Google is at doing exchanges from the Play store. This entire issue has been so hard to pin down.
It would be nice if Google was more proactive about it and just offered a solution, but that is wishful thinking, I know.
Thanks!
PS my SN on a 16GB model that demonstrates the flicker is:
SSN: C60KBC226---
I just got off the phone. Was on hold for all of 2 minutes. The whole phone call was 8 minutes and 18 seconds. Hopefully it all works out.
heh I did the map test too and saw flicker and planning my return, but I saw some other users were saying tegra devices had this problem. so I turned OFF the wifi, and there was still flickering!
so.. before anyone jumps to conclusions maybe try the map scroll with wifi off
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heh I did the map test too and saw flicker and planning my return, but I saw some other users were saying tegra devices had this problem. so I turned OFF the wifi, and there was still flickering!
so.. before anyone jumps to conclusions maybe try the map scroll with wifi off
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I had wifi on for both of them in the video, brightness set to the lowest setting, and the auto brightness checkbox off. It was happening to me in all applications, the map just seemed the easiest to reproduce in, so it may actually be related to the wifi receiving/sending data.
The new one does not have the issue at all.
can you try them both with wifi off?
I just got around to trying to find this issue on my Nexus 7, and I do see that the Maps app has some "flicker" (i.e., color or brightness changes). If this is what everyone is talking about (sorry, haven't kept up with this particular issue), then let me say that the EXACT same thing happened on my Transformer Prime.
I remain pretty sure that this whole issue is related to the PRISM power-saving tech that's a part of the Tegra 3 platform. I've seen too many wonky issues like this on too many Tegra 3 tablet to think it's not related (that includes the Prime, the Toshiba Excite 10, and the Toshiba Excite 7.7, the latter of which is even an AMOLED screen and so not subject to LCD-type issues).
So I tried to reproduce the flicker on my N7 and was only able to reproduce flicker upon panning in google maps. When I drag the map around and the street names are loading I can sometimes see a minimal flicker (generally when I a lot of loading is occurring). Its pretty subtle and only visible when brightness levels are low.
Don't see any flickering at any brightness level besides that.
To OP, can you see any flickering at all upon panning in your new device? my N7 doesn't flicker like the old one you have, I could probably bare with it.
In a dark room with a Strong wifi full bars and barely and WiFi signal had the same Flickering issue with google maps. It is something else.
So for me it doesn't appear WiFi signal effects it.
Going to be calling Google tomorrow.
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The change in colour temp is probably just normal variation. No mobile devices are calibrated (including the iPad3) and they all show a fairly wide variety in their white balance. It is possible, though, that the flicker has some sort of causal relationship with the screen lift.
My search led me here after noticing the flicker issue while browsing the web on my n7 at night.
I just did the map test and it flickers every 5 secs with the WiFi ON. With WiFi OFF there is no flicker. Same with all the apps that use WiFi.
So is a this a HW or SW issue?
There's already a large thread on screen flicker. Not sure why we needed another. Maybe a mod can merge them.
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Thanks for the post. I received mine on Tuesday and noticed the screen flicker with the auto brightness. Called last night and they're sending me another. If the RMA flickers, I'll wait until Google's new Motorola division begins creating actual PURE Google products.
Here's my Nexus serial: xx0KBC019770
My first device had the screen separation issue. I have since had this replaced and the new one has the screen flicker.
It is most noticable when the brightness is at its lowest, above 20% it _almost_ disappears. turning wifi off seems to stop the flicker.
In the video did you have the brightness the same on both?
Well, as soon as I purchased my Nexus 7 tab and received it I thought to my self for 199$ I just robbed Google for this high spec tech giant of a tablet, packing a 1280x800 HD display, Tegra 3 CPU, 12 core GPU, 1 GB of RAM, NFC, GPS and Jelly Bean! WOW! and the list goes on and on and I thought I just couldn't complain even if I tried to. The first thing I wanted to do was to test it out with some apps and ROMs and kernel's and then the second thing was to hop on XDA Nexus 7 general thread to see if I missed any cons after my tests with the device and boy was there a lot of unhappy people with a lot of issues. So, I checked my device for dead pixels, screen lift, blown speakers and screen flicker...I thank GOD that I didn't have any of the issues stated, but I asked myself after seeing all of these people returning, upset, and bashing Asus and Google for quality issues, I thought to myself, if this had happened to me would I be among the bashing group? After a deep breath and thinking after all this is a 199$ premium spec tablet and with specs like this given for a price like 199$ and issues I've seen hardly even looked like a issue, hell! I wouldn't mind buying another for the bathroom as a electronic newspaper when I'm taking a LMAO! So guys, at a price like this for Nexus high spec like this I would have still purchased it even if it didn't have a chassis!
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Please post pictures of you defective Nexus 7's THANKS!
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You'd feel differently if your screen was lifted so badly that when you pressed on it, the screen cracked. This has actually happened to a few people. Being a good value isn't an excuse for poor quality control.
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You'd feel differently if your screen was lifted so badly that when you pressed on it, the screen cracked. This has actually happened to a few people. Being a good value isn't an excuse for poor quality control.
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QFT.
Normally I would agree with the expectation that a $199 tablet would feel like a toy, but that was until I owned a Kindle Fire. That thing is built like a tank for the same $199, and its build quality I think is something I've never seen a complaint about despite the low price. So after owning a Fire, I would say I did expect the same sort of solid build quality at $199 out of the Nexus 7. Packing in high end internal hardware is no excuse to cheap out and have exterior bits and pieces failing, screens not calibrated well, etc etc. IMO for the sake of the manufacturer's reputation, either do it right or don't do it at all.
Whoever built the Kindle Fire is who Google should contract for the next Nexus tablet...
Google made this with the intent on gaining market share. I'm sure they make little to no money on the tablet itself. It all come from the Play Store.
That being said, I would still expect Google and Asus to put out a quality product, regardless of price. Now, I thankfully haven't had any issues, but if I did, I would still be upset. $200 is still a good chunk of change.
I cannot imagine that these two companies are happy that they have released a product with so many defects. Thankfully it seems that that they are handling the issues quickly and being helpful. Too bad they don't get any credit for that.
All said, I am very happy with my purchase, and feel better knowing if an issue does arise, I will be taken care of.
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You'd feel differently if your screen was lifted so badly that when you pressed on it, the screen cracked. This has actually happened to a few people. Being a good value isn't an excuse for poor quality control.
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Not really! For 199$ I would suck it up and not make a big deal about small issues.
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Not really! For 199$ I would suck it up and not make a big deal about small issues.
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Your first post was on the money, but I find it hard to believe you wouldn't care if your screen shattered due to poor build quality
I think most people would understandably be a little bit mad lol.
I've got minor screen lift on mine, and zero ****s given. It is an amazing device and the more I use it the more I love it.
It seems to have matured a bit over time too, had a rocky start with a bit of lag etc, maybe that was because I didn't know how to close backgrounded apps at first lol.
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Your first post was on the money, but I find it hard to believe you wouldn't care if your screen shattered due to poor build quality
I think most people would understandably be a little bit mad lol.
I've got minor screen lift on mine, and zero ****s given. It is an amazing device and the more I use it the more I love it.
It seems to have matured a bit over time too, had a rocky start with a bit of lag etc, maybe that was because I didn't know how to close backgrounded apps at first lol.
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I too think people have out of kilter expectations, and they are being manipulated by the Apple shills into RMAing perfect good units, because they have been lead to believe that screen lift will get worse etc.
It's all part of the delaying plan whilst Apple prepare their 7in tablet.
I know of 7 Nexus7's with friends and family and all of them are perfect to our specifications. My mothers has a small amount of screen lift, but she will never notice it, and it has no effect on daily use. I'm also pretty sure that before the internet age, there wouldn't be this sheep mentality into RMAing units... Those people wouldn't have even noticed these things.
CrazyPeter said:
I too think people have out of kilter expectations, and they are being manipulated by the Apple shills into RMAing perfect good units, because they have been lead to believe that screen lift will get worse etc.
It's all part of the delaying plan whilst Apple prepare their 7in tablet.
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Apple shills, I love it! I'm totally prepared to believe this as a fervent Apple-hater. Is there an evidence? I so want there to be!
I picked up one last night(office depot) a C70 batch. Expected a quality product and got one. Very happy.
I guess it sounds strange around here, but yes. I do expect to buy a quality product. And I believe some people have gotten quality Nexus 7, so it's not like we are expecting the impossible.
Just waiting for ASUS to consistently reproduce that quality.
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I picked up one last night(office depot) a C70 batch. Expected a quality product and got one. Very happy.
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Nice! I thought I was the only one.
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I bought one of these because it was the first Google tablet and it has pure, unadulterated Jelly Bean. With a Nexus device, you don't need to worry about app compatibility or updates. Your tablet is the only officially supported Android tablet.
Tell me what other, more luxuriant tablet has this much to offer in terms of software and compatibility. Then you can criticize me for being cheap.
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I too think people have out of kilter expectations, and they are being manipulated by the Apple shills into RMAing perfect good units, because they have been lead to believe that screen lift will get worse etc.
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Google CSRs have been telling customers that any screen lifting at all should be exchanged. We've been infiltrating the intern placement program in Cupertino for months, and when they corralled us into answering phones our preparations were complete.
Steve has a moustache. I repeat, Steve has a long moustache.
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I expected quality and I got it
I agree and disagree to certain extents.
The screen lifting is definitely inexcusable, although I'm still a believer of the idea that these forums makes the % of defective units sound a lot higher than it actually is.
However, there are a lot of other things that people are just being ridiculously OCD about:
1. Backlight bleed. Okay, I dont have it on this unit, but I've had it on my phones in the past, a bit on my 20" Dell IPS monitor and even some of my $1k+ TVs (thankfully not on my newest 50" plasma ;D). Considering the problem is really only obvious at a pure black screen and high brightness, I dont consider it a problem. Its more of a inherent disadvantage of using these kinds of displays.
2. Dead pixels. Same as above... My monitor has a dead pixel somewhere, although after years of using it I dont even remember where it is anymore. My 42" Toshiba LCD has two "stuck" pixels (one red one green) on the screen, bothered me for the first two weeks of owning it, but literally impossible to notice under normal use. Again, its an inherent disadvantage. Unless you have a good few dead pixels scattered all over the screen, just deal with it.
3. The flickering issue. I tried this myself; couldnt replicate it. Then I was told I need to have only 1 bar of WiFi signal, max brightness, light background, and be downloading a large file while keeping the screen on for at least a few minutes to begin noticing the issue... WHAT THE HELL? Are people serious about this one... its just stupid.
4. Multi-touch Axis crossing. I made a post on the thread and attached my own youtube video. My N7 doesnt have the issue unless I use four fingers in a square formation with all axis overlapping. Two fingers pose no problem.
Discovered that my G2 has the same issue, after years of using and not noticing a problem.
Not sure how real this issue is, but I guess if my device went wonky with just two fingers I'd be annoyed too.
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Nippero said:
I expected quality and I got it
I agree and disagree to certain extents.
The screen lifting is definitely inexcusable, although I'm still a believer of the idea that these forums makes the % of defective units sound a lot higher than it actually is.
However, there are a lot of other things that people are just being ridiculously OCD about:
1. Backlight bleed. Okay, I dont have it on this unit, but I've had it on my phones in the past, a bit on my 20" Dell IPS monitor and even some of my $1k+ TVs (thankfully not on my newest 50" plasma ;D). Considering the problem is really only obvious at a pure black screen and high brightness, I dont consider it a problem. Its more of a inherent disadvantage of using these kinds of displays.
2. Dead pixels. Same as above... My monitor has a dead pixel somewhere, although after years of using it I dont even remember where it is anymore. My 42" Toshiba LCD has two "stuck" pixels (one red one green) on the screen, bothered me for the first two weeks of owning it, but literally impossible to notice under normal use. Again, its an inherent disadvantage. Unless you have a good few dead pixels scattered all over the screen, just deal with it.
3. The flickering issue. I tried this myself; couldnt replicate it. Then I was told I need to have only 1 bar of WiFi signal, max brightness, light background, and be downloading a large file while keeping the screen on for at least a few minutes to begin noticing the issue... WHAT THE HELL? Are people serious about this one... its just stupid.
4. Multi-touch Axis crossing. I made a post on the thread and attached my own youtube video. My N7 doesnt have the issue unless I use four fingers in a square formation with all axis overlapping. Two fingers pose no problem.
Discovered that my G2 has the same issue, after years of using and not noticing a problem.
Not sure how real this issue is, but I guess if my device went wonky with just two fingers I'd be annoyed too.
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While i do expect to get a quality product with anything I buy, I couldn't agree more in terms of the over the top OCD. When I first opened my N7 from its packaging my first thought I had was WOW! I honestly thought the silver bezel was metal simply because the build quality felt so good. We all know the under the hood specs are top notch and it came sporting Jelly Bean. Do some units have a few early launch manufacturing flaws? Sure but that's usually the case with most new devices. So for $199/$249 I think ASUS and Google hit the nail on the head. Im 100% happy with my purchase.
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Well, I don't know about other countries but when the tablet gets to Sweden they are gonna lose very much cash if they don't fix these problems as the laws are very good for customers. For example, if having to return the same product twice/2 repairs without any difference you can claim your money back.
Expecting a perfect device or not it should be working as it is stated to do. I would not accept a device with the screen moving around when touching it for example, that is not how it is supposed to be.
What a silly question.
I expect to get quality on any device I purchase...especially a Nexus device.
That said, I have a tiny smidgen of screen lift, so minute that I had to really look for it to see it. I do not care.
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4. Multi-touch Axis crossing. I made a post on the thread and attached my own youtube video. My N7 doesnt have the issue unless I use four fingers in a square formation with all axis overlapping. Two fingers pose no problem.
Discovered that my G2 has the same issue, after years of using and not noticing a problem.
Not sure how real this issue is, but I guess if my device went wonky with just two fingers I'd be annoyed too.
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See my response in that thread. It's a real issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30614118
I'd like to thank Mungulz, but I'm out of thanks for the day, so a "high-five" will have to do.
^5 Mungulz
I, too, had screen lift, and was able to repair it, myself. I also had a noticeable creak I was able to MacGuyver away with little effort.
I must say this is one hell of a device for two-hundred bucks, but if my homegrown fix hadn't worked on the screen lift, I would have surely RMA'd it after a couple of months (as others have done/are doing).
Had I had screen lift to the point where it cracked, I would have been quite (righteously) sore at Google/Asus, but would have definitely not taken things to the extremes I've seen on these forums.
Yes we did expect a quality product. And we got one.
Everyone has issues in their initial roll out, and Google seems to have corrected the issues in their next batch. So if you have a defective device, hold onto it for a little bit. Once the next batch reaches wide circulation, call Google and get a replacement. Problem solved.
Hey guys,
I started noticing bit of red tint on lower half of the screen.
I am aware viewing angle make difference, but no matter which orientation/angle I look from it is still there.
Anyone else having similar issue?
Also, if this is a defect, is this the kind that retailer usually replace for consumer?
It is giving me headache looking at the screen for a prolonged period even though the tint is not severe.
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Its very, very slight on mine. Nothing that would make me consider returning it though.
Also, screen tint shift based on angle is a lot more frequent than my s3 (i9300). I tilt note4 by even 5deg and I see colour shift already, but nothing like that on s3.
Can someone confirm this please.
Thank you.
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mkim055 said:
Also, screen tint shift based on angle is a lot more frequent than my s3 (i9300). I tilt note4 by even 5deg and I see colour shift already, but nothing like that on s3.
Can someone confirm this please.
Thank you.
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Yes, my phone does this. However I've checked a lot of shop display units and have noticed many are better and some are worse than mine. The sad fact is that there seems to be a bit of a screen lottery going on and it's luck whether you get a good screen or a bad one.
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Yes, my phone does this. However I've checked a lot of shop display units and have noticed many are better and some are worse than mine. The sad fact is that there seems to be a bit of a screen lottery going on and it's luck whether you get a good screen or a bad one.
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So you reckon retail wouldnt replace it.
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You can try it. If they have a display unit that is obviously better than your current one and they can see that. Problem is you might end up with a replacement that is just as bad or worse!
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You can try it. If they have a display unit that is obviously better than your current one and they can see that. Problem is you might end up with a replacement that is just as bad or worse!
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That is not right.... =(
People spend $1000 just to go into lottery of getting 'normal' one....
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mkim055 said:
That is not right.... =(
People spend $1000 just to go into lottery of getting 'normal' one....
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Thats been the case since the Galaxy Note 2, even my note 3 has a slight reddish tint on the top part of the screen.. most if not all the units ive seen either has a red tint or a more warmer color tone at a certain part of the screen. People have accepted this as a norm.
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Thats been the case since the Galaxy Note 2, even my note 3 has a slight reddish tint on the top part of the screen.. most if not all the units ive seen either has a red tint or a more warmer color tone at a certain part of the screen. People have accepted this as a norm.
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Yeah funny it is a norm for Note series when it is not for S series when both using same display technology
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Agree. My old s5 was much better with colour shift and tinting. As are the new tab s tablets. I'm disappointed with the note 4 screen.
Have you tried setting the display to photo mode?
I am still wondering if we talk about the same phone, my Note 4 has no red tint and no color shift at all, no matter how much I turn the phone.
Also looking at a totally white/red/yellow picture, I can't find any part of the screen that is warmer. Some people also reported that greys look terrible, I can't comfirm that for my display.
Coming from the Nexus 5, this display looks so much better in all aspects, I am still stunned after using the phone for 3 days now.
There seems to be quite a disparity between phones. Some are good, some are bad. That tends to be why people are having different experiences.
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Yeah funny it is a norm for Note series when it is not for S series when both using same display technology
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It was the norm for the S series up until the S4 came out. The S4 was the first Samsung screen since the Note 2 that had a very nice and even screen.
S1, S2, S3, Note 1, Note 3 all suffer from poor screen uniformity. Guess you can add the Note 4 to that too.
This worries me as I'm planning on skipping the Note 4 for the Nexus 6. Samsung will already be giving Motorola last years Amoled tech, and stretched across the bigger screen the unevenness will be even more obvious.
Especially now that Android Lollipop will be mostly light grey everywhere! Amoled's worst nightmare.
red tint?
What red tint, is this when the screen is on? off? I haven't noticed any red tint but now I'm worried...
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What red tint, is this when the screen is on? off? I haven't noticed any red tint but now I'm worried...
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Wow, if you do not notice it - do not find a reason to notice it. Be happy with your device.
My display is a very slightly more blueish/pinkish towards the top half, specifically the top right. It's only noticeable on white content. It's subtle enough that I won't go through the hassle of getting a replacement especially since the replacement could be even worse... At least my display has been brightness and no banding or anything. Overall though, this display is simply phenomenal. Hopefully these slight display issues will improve as time goes on, although the screen on my S4 was very uniform, doesn't even come close to the performance of the Note 4 screen though.
Seems like the problems are much less pronounced that the typical uneven backlight of LCD?
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Wow, if you do not notice it - do not find a reason to notice it. Be happy with your device.
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Then I shall not look for it! Hope those who do have it find a solution!
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Have you tried setting the display to photo mode?
I am still wondering if we talk about the same phone, my Note 4 has no red tint and no color shift at all, no matter how much I turn the phone.
Also looking at a totally white/red/yellow picture, I can't find any part of the screen that is warmer. Some people also reported that greys look terrible, I can't comfirm that for my display.
Coming from the Nexus 5, this display looks so much better in all aspects, I am still stunned after using the phone for 3 days now.
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Love to see some youtube videos from people who have issues, mine looks fine to me.
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Yeah trust me, you will end up paranoid and find a reason to dislike your phone (even if you never noticed the problem in the first place). Like they say, ignorance is bliss! Enjoy the phone.
Please help. I am planning to buy nexus 6. I have read a lot about nexus 6 display issues like burn in issues , uneven color, grey lines and lower half of screen freezing. Some say these are present in all devices to variable extent and in most exist in mild form.
Should i get nexus 6 ? does these screen issues still exist?
Else i will buy Galaxy s6
drnishant123 said:
Please help. I am planning to buy nexus 6. I have read a lot about nexus 6 display issues like burn in issues , uneven color, grey lines and lower half of screen freezing. Some say these are present in all devices to variable extent and in most exist in mild form.
Should i get nexus 6 ? does these screen issues still exist?
Else i will buy Galaxy s6
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I've had mine since November 2014 and I have none of those issues.
Smooth sailing here
I keep it adaptive 66% brightness and its all good no burn-in that I can see I have noticed some specific apps like chrome cause a weird freeze on the right screen half happens maybe once a month with no pattern (a quick screen off/on fixes it could possibly be a custom kernel thing). Only other thing I'd say is the screen has a very warm color palette by default, I use code blue with kcal 237, 235, 255 to make a cooler feel, there's a thread about it somewhere. I've had mine since February.
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Please help. I am planning to buy nexus 6. I have read a lot about nexus 6 display issues like burn in issues , uneven color, grey lines and lower half of screen freezing. Some say these are present in all devices to variable extent and in most exist in mild form.
Should i get nexus 6 ? does these screen issues still exist?
Else i will buy Galaxy s6
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The Galaxy S6 has lots more software issues then the N6 atm and besides that i have never personaly had this screen issue. The N6 is a great phone especialy now it is beeing discounted here and there (US and UK).
Been rocking N6 for last 1 month and i am loving it. No issues at all. Like u i was also very concerned to put into huge sum of money into N6 purchase after reading soooooo many discouraging videos and reviews and comments.
But i am using it as my daily driver for like 1 month now and i haven't seen any issue related to screen, battery, or even software. 5.1.1 is very stable.
I keep the adaptive brightness on and brightness level at 50% and i get 4 - 4.5 hours SOT with everything on...including google now, location history, location reporting high accuracy.
No screen burn, no battery swelling, no battery life issues, no screen freezes, bt yes i'll admit the screen colour is more on a warmer side.
I got a Nexus 6 from Google Play and a friend got one from Motorola in June 2015. Both have screen issues, one have vertical banding noticeable on gray or dark backgrounds, the other has a yellow tint and very uneven backlighting. I'm not sure if most have these issues and simply aren't bothered or what. Not sure what to do at this point.
Flawless here
No issues with mine ....
mine works fine never had any of the issues above
No issues for me.
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There's no backlighting.
What I meant to say is that strips of the screen are brighter or darker than the rest of the screen and it looks blotchy. If I hadn't viewed a solid gray screen, I might not have noticed but this doesn't make me happy, especially knowing that Android M has a dark theme with lots of grays.
I've had my white 64gb from Motorola since March. Had it replaced once already for the screen tearing issue when running a custom dpi. The replacement I got a month ago does the same. Will be calling again soon
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I got a nexus 6 at ATT through the next program a couple months ago. It had banding on the right side of the screen right out of the box. It was pretty discouraging. I took it back and got it swapped for another unit and honestly couldn't be happier. The n6 is an amazing phone.
crzycrkr said:
I've had my white 64gb from Motorola since March. Had it replaced once already for the screen tearing issue when running a custom dpi. The replacement I got a month ago does the same. Will be calling again soon
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Screen tearing or half black?
Issues relating to custom DPI happen on them all.
I received mine on 6/18, no issues other than a pink hue at low brightness (with adaptive brightness turned on) which seems to be software based.
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Screen tearing or half black?
Issues relating to custom DPI happen on them all.
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Half black, and half freeze, which I've seen be referred to as screen tearing in just about all the posts I could find on it. Funny thing is on every kernel or ROM thread ice asked about it I've been told it does not happen on all of them. Seems many have had their phones replaced and had no issues in the replacement and that has led to people believing it's a hardware issue. Only other explanation I had seen was something about Franco saying it's a possible display driver issue. Sucks that I can't use Franco kernel at AOL because it becomes horrible
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Half black, and half freeze, which I've seen be referred to as screen tearing in just about all the posts I could find on it. Funny thing is on every kernel or ROM thread ice asked about it I've been told it does not happen on all of them. Seems many have had their phones replaced and had no issues in the replacement and that has led to people believing it's a hardware issue. Only other explanation I had seen was something about Franco saying it's a possible display driver issue. Sucks that I can't use Franco kernel at AOL because it becomes horrible
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The tearing, which by that I mean freezing definitely seems to be a graphics card issue. The half-black if you change the DPI and rotate clockwise so buttons are on the bottom, afaik happens to them all. I think this is related to the GPU to, though I don';t think that is hardware issue. The tearing issue seems to manifest more when the device is warm/hot
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The tearing, which by that I mean freezing definitely seems to be a graphics card issue. The half-black if you change the DPI and rotate clockwise so buttons are on the bottom, afaik happens to them all. I think this is related to the GPU to, though I don';t think that is hardware issue. The tearing issue seems to manifest more when the device is warm/hot
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The tearing is a graphics card software or hardware issue? I love this phone, but it's getting very frustrating. Especially since my RMA prices with Motorola turned out to be a series of clusterf*cks.
I'm running Chroma right now and with the included Franco it's unusable in both my phones at a lower dpi. Half screen freezes left and right within seconds of starting up. The reasons I initially believed it was software was that it only seems to happen in certain apps. Specifically ones that required a lot of scrolling, like XDA, Facebook, and chrome. But no one else in the thread seems to have the issue
The half black screen I figured had to be software because the soft buttons are still on the screen.
I just wish there was a solid answer so I could stop guessing
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The tearing is a graphics card software or hardware issue? I love this phone, but it's getting very frustrating. Especially since my RMA prices with Motorola turned out to be a series of clusterf*cks.
I'm running Chroma right now and with the included Franco it's unusable in both my phones at a lower dpi. Half screen freezes left and right within seconds of starting up. The reasons I initially believed it was software was that it only seems to happen in certain apps. Specifically ones that required a lot of scrolling, like XDA, Facebook, and chrome. But no one else in the thread seems to have the issue
The half black screen I figured had to be software because the soft buttons are still on the screen.
I just wish there was a solid answer so I could stop guessing
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I've never had the tearing issue and not everyone has that one. The guys who have had an RMA have generally said that it had stopped the issue happening. Im not sure that has any link to DPI either. My suspician based on not really any evidence at all is that it is hardware related, since some have it and some do not.
The half black is definitely linked to DPI and there is no fix to that that I am aware. I just turn that rotation mode off so I can only go anti-clockwise.
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I've never had the tearing issue and not everyone has that one. The guys who have had an RMA have generally said that it had stopped the issue happening. Im not sure that has any link to DPI either. My suspician based on not really any evidence at all is that it is hardware related, since some have it and some do not.
The half black is definitely linked to DPI and there is no fix to that that I am aware. I just turn that rotation mode off so I can only go anti-clockwise.
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The weird thing with me with the tearing is it only happens in certain situations and has been consistent across both devices I had. Certain kernels I get it, other ones I do not. Franco has been unusable for me on both. It has only happened at lower dpi. Never on stock. Send to be less frequent with interactive governors than ondemand or conservative
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As we all know the AMOLED lotto is real even if the display was given "the highest A+ from DisplayMate". Wanting to keep track to see if anyone is having any of the following issues: Screen uniformity, banding on gray, dark gray looking purple at lower brightness, blotches, black crush, black smear. If there is something I haven't listed feel free to post the issue. While I know some of these issues are inherent of the technology I would like to gather data and see other's experiences thus far.
On my my device my 128 GB white XL exhibits the "dark gray looking purple at lower brightness". I've also added poll options and I look forward to seeing everyone's responses and thank you for taking the time to read and respond!
While it's true any oled can get these problems, it does seem there's a fair amount of complaints about display issues already. I think that's because there LG panels, while we know have improved a lot since the 2 XL but they don't seem to be the same standard as samsung ones .
Something like the OnePlus 7 pro I didn't see any things on Reddit, xda about screen faults
Reuben_skelz92 said:
While it's true any oled can get these problems, it does seem there's a fair amount of complaints about display issues already. I think that's because there LG panels, while we know have improved a lot since the 2 XL but they don't seem to be the same standard as samsung ones .
Something like the OnePlus 7 pro I didn't see any things on Reddit, xda about screen faults
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Ifixit's tearodwn actually shows that Samsung actually manufactured the display. From what I know Samsung's own devices don't have 90hz panels yet. So this could be their first batch and the 4 is their guiena pig to iron out any production issues. But some other reports to report that it is LG. I'll poke around Reddit and see what the folks say down there as well. I could of just been the unlucky one and got shafted on the panel lottery. But everything else is working flawless (for now) and I don't really want to play the exchange lotto. Thanks for the response.
I guess I won the lottery. No issues at all. My P3XL had the purple shift at low brightness though.
What I would like to know is, the devices that are being affected, are they the XL or the standard version? The XL has all but been confirmed to be samsung, but we don't know about the regular version
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What I would like to know is, the devices that are being affected, are they the XL or the standard version? The XL has all but been confirmed to be samsung, but we don't know about the regular version
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Really? I see it being Poled everywhere which is LG
GohanBurner said:
I guess I won the lottery. No issues at all. My P3XL had the purple shift at low brightness though.
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Nice to know and congrats on winning the panel lotto! My 3XL was the opposite and had no purple shift at low brightness.
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Really? I see it being Poled everywhere which is LG
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Some are saying LG and the others are saying Samsung. I'm more inclined to believe it's Samsung since in the teardown it was confirmed. https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Google+Pixel+4+XL+Teardown/127320 Unless they really went with LG and Samsung for both variants? Last year smaller gets the LG while the XL gets Samsung.
Maybe not?
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Who-m...Google-Pixel-4-XL-Samsung-or-LG.439878.0.html hopefully this posts right. Screenshot shows that it has the samsung driver. In the xl at least. Dunno about the standard
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe..._pixel_4_display_a_big_step_forward_in_black/ This thread here shows that several people have posted about purple and some even green. Whereas some are saying even at higher brightness levels some grays appear purple and then at other times it appears as normal.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe..._pixel_4_display_a_big_step_forward_in_black/ This thread here shows that several people have posted about purple and some even green. Whereas some are saying even at higher brightness levels some grays appear purple and then at other times it appears as normal.
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It would be nice if we could get some confirmation on which device this was happening on. So we can at least eliminate one other variable. We still don't know if the panels are the same on both devices. I'm willing to bet that is happening on the smaller version, since no one I know that has received an XL has mentioned it
I guess I won the lottery. None of the above for me so far. I haven't had the phone for even a day though, so the bottom two are possible yet. I checked the others and it's good to go. Very glad to hear they're Sammy displays too. I had the 2xl, and those LG's sucked.
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I guess I won the lottery. None of the above for me so far. I haven't had the phone for even a day though, so the bottom two are possible yet. I checked the others and it's good to go. Very glad to hear they're Sammy displays too. I had the 2xl, and those LG's sucked.
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XL?
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XL?
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Yes sir! My wife got one too, I'll check hers later and report back.
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Yes sir! My wife got one too, I'll check hers later and report back.
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Ok, so there's another XL confirmed working fine. Starting to think there may be some credence to my earlier statement
Mine looks great. No complaints. This thing is a Beast!
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And yet, another XL user. Makes me feel better, since that's what I ordered ?
My 4 XL screen is very nice too. No problems like above. I like it better than the Note 10 plus I just sent back.
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It would be nice if we could get some confirmation on which device this was happening on. So we can at least eliminate one other variable. We still don't know if the panels are the same on both devices. I'm willing to bet that is happening on the smaller version, since no one I know that has received an XL has mentioned it
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If the XL panels are indeed all Sammy then I and probably a few others didn't win the lotto. I also notice some strange behaviors as well. Adaptive EQ off and ambient on and around 20-30% Discord looks fine, whereas the voice recording app still seems dark/purple until about 70%. Then there are times where I open that app and it seems fine. Another user in the reddit thread I linked is also reporting this behavior on various apps. Hopefully more cotinue to speak up if their screen is fine or not!
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If the XL panels are indeed all Sammy then I and probably a few others didn't win the lotto. I also notice some strange behaviors as well. Adaptive EQ off and ambient on and around 20-30% Discord looks fine, whereas the voice recording app still seems dark/purple until about 70%. Then there are times where I open that app and it seems fine. Another user in the reddit thread I linked is also reporting this behavior on various apps. Hopefully more cotinue to speak up if their screen is fine or not!
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Well, f*ck. There went that Idea. So, just so we're on the same page, you do have an XL and you are experiencing the screen issue? So much for my theory. Was doing well for awhile
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Well, f*ck. There went that Idea. So, just so we're on the same page, you do have an XL and you are experiencing the screen issue? So much for my theory. Was doing well for awhile
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That is correct I have a 128 GB White 4 XL. I've been digging around Reddit and some others users also have the gray appearing purple and others have gray appearing as green at lower brightness on their XL's.